So, you pay 500$ for a 20GB PS3, and 480$ for a ..120GB 360 ??? PS3 is dead ?

With HDMI too !!! And you get to pay ....600$ for just 60GB model ?

I think MS just won the race by far

Well i wouldn't say that MS won the entire thing but yeah sony is pwned ;)Axel_rocks14

It is like saving !!!! 120$ !!!!!! and still get 60GB more than the 600$ PS3 !!!!

and is HD content really worth $120???

and what use is this HD content without an HDTV anyway???

which would require a hundred dollar investment for the TV anyway giving the cost of this HD content (which I've seen the PS3 on an HDTV. you know it really doesn't look that different from DVD to Blu Ray) at over $1000 dollars...

Another completely ignorant damage control topic from conceru3...

Because I haven't already seen 3 of these today (/sarcasm)

Blue ray can't help my gaming or my D****ble content/videos/HD shows etc BUT 120GB HDD can !!!!

SD cards ??? What is that ?

Motion sensing ? RUMBLE !!!

Another completely ignorant damage control topic from conceru3...

Because I haven't already seen 3 of these today (/sarcasm)

Pizza_Guy450

Damage control over ...WHAT ???

With HDMI too !!! And you get to pay ....600$ for just 60GB model ?

I think MS just won the race by far

conceru3

The Elite lacks the one thing the PS3 has relied on, Bluray or in the 360's case, HD-DVD support. 

In the end, larger HDD is nice, but you add $100 for a WiFi attachment to that $480 and you get :

$580.

In the end, the Elite actually shows that the PS3 is a good deal. I am a 360 guy, but the elite doesn't offer me anything but HDMI and a larger HDD, I wanted a HDDVD player.

Not worth it. 

With HDMI too !!! And you get to pay ....600$ for just 60GB model ?

I think MS just won the race by far

conceru3

Riight ....
So lets compare 120gb 360 to 60gb PS3 but ignore Blu-ray, SD card slots, motion sensing etc.

Lets also ignore the fact that current 360 are not going to buy a new 360 -- but rather just a 120gb HDD for $180 ... which makes their 360 cost preety much the same as 60gb PS3 ...
choasgod

That about sums it up.

Is the TC really just Major Nelson or a M$ employee, because his logic is hard to follow. 

[QUOTE="conceru3"]

With HDMI too !!! And you get to pay ....600$ for just 60GB model ?

I think MS just won the race by far

Final_Rise

Yes Sony is not impressed, since they are selling PS3 as a Blue ray player first and then for games, you rmember that advertisement "it plays games too" !!!!!

Riight ....
So lets compare 120gb 360 to 60gb PS3 but ignore Blu-ray, SD card slots, motion sensing etc.

Lets also ignore the fact that current 360 are not going to buy a new 360 -- but rather just a 120gb HDD for $180 ... which makes their 360 cost preety much the same as 60gb PS3 ...
choasgod

[QUOTE="Final_Rise"][QUOTE="conceru3"]

With HDMI too !!! And you get to pay ....600$ for just 60GB model ?

I think MS just won the race by far

conceru3

Yes Sony is not impressed, since they are selling PS3 as a Blue ray player first and then for games, you rmember that advertisement "it plays games too" !!!!!

[QUOTE="choasgod"]Riight ....
So lets compare 120gb 360 to 60gb PS3 but ignore Blu-ray, SD card slots, motion sensing etc.

Lets also ignore the fact that current 360 are not going to buy a new 360 -- but rather just a 120gb HDD for $180 ... which makes their 360 cost preety much the same as 60gb PS3 ...
Dualshockin

Microsoft is banking $$$ that no one will.  

ps3-600$ 60-gig hardrive (that is completely self upgradeable at any time) wifi blu ray player memory reader hdmi port 600 Elite- 480 120 gig HDD (upgradeable when MS release bigger HDDs) wifi ($99) hd-dvd player (199$) minus memory card reader $780 thats before XBL and yes you can get an HDMI cable for 6 bucksMorisUkunRasik

Point is that is YOUR list, because you are a HD movie lover, in my list HD-DVD and Wi-fi are totally not nessesary, but a bigger HDD is a must with the exellent Live services

[QUOTE="MorisUkunRasik"]ps3-600$ 60-gig hardrive (that is completely self upgradeable at any time) wifi blu ray player memory reader hdmi port 600 Elite- 480 120 gig HDD (upgradeable when MS release bigger HDDs) wifi ($99) hd-dvd player (199$) minus memory card reader $780 thats before XBL and yes you can get an HDMI cable for 6 bucksconceru3

Point is that is YOUR list, because you are a HD movie lover, in my list HD-DVD and Wi-fi are totally not nessesary, but a bigger HDD is a must with the exellent Live services

[QUOTE="conceru3"]

[QUOTE="MorisUkunRasik"]ps3-600$ 60-gig hardrive (that is completely self upgradeable at any time) wifi blu ray player memory reader hdmi port 600 Elite- 480 120 gig HDD (upgradeable when MS release bigger HDDs) wifi ($99) hd-dvd player (199$) minus memory card reader $780 thats before XBL and yes you can get an HDMI cable for 6 bucksMorisUkunRasik

Point is that is YOUR list, because you are a HD movie lover, in my list HD-DVD and Wi-fi are totally not nessesary, but a bigger HDD is a must with the exellent Live services

You get double the PS3 60GB, for 120$ less, so as a package it is fine

[QUOTE="MorisUkunRasik"][QUOTE="conceru3"]

[QUOTE="MorisUkunRasik"]ps3-600$ 60-gig hardrive (that is completely self upgradeable at any time) wifi blu ray player memory reader hdmi port 600 Elite- 480 120 gig HDD (upgradeable when MS release bigger HDDs) wifi ($99) hd-dvd player (199$) minus memory card reader $780 thats before XBL and yes you can get an HDMI cable for 6 bucksconceru3

Point is that is YOUR list, because you are a HD movie lover, in my list HD-DVD and Wi-fi are totally not nessesary, but a bigger HDD is a must with the exellent Live services

You get double the PS3 60GB, for 120$ less, so as a package it is fine

yeah but if you already own a premium...its 580, if you own a core 480(without any benefits from the premium/elite)

[QUOTE="conceru3"][QUOTE="MorisUkunRasik"][QUOTE="conceru3"]

[QUOTE="MorisUkunRasik"]ps3-600$ 60-gig hardrive (that is completely self upgradeable at any time) wifi blu ray player memory reader hdmi port 600 Elite- 480 120 gig HDD (upgradeable when MS release bigger HDDs) wifi ($99) hd-dvd player (199$) minus memory card reader $780 thats before XBL and yes you can get an HDMI cable for 6 bucksKahuna_1

Point is that is YOUR list, because you are a HD movie lover, in my list HD-DVD and Wi-fi are totally not nessesary, but a bigger HDD is a must with the exellent Live services

You get double the PS3 60GB, for 120$ less, so as a package it is fine

yeah but if you already own a premium...its 580, if you own a core 480(without any benefits from the premium/elite)

With the premium+120GB HDD you get 2x PLUS the PS3 60GB HDD in there for 20$ less !!!!!!!

BTW why would nayone want HDMI, when can have a VGA connection with most new HDTVs ? The picture is clear perfect, like pc image, but with the extra amazing colors perk, and full 1370x768 resolution !!!!

You forgot the part where Playstation 3 owners have Blu-Ray built in. Which means we're not at the mercy of of the movie industry, since blu ray wont ever overtake dvd.... TekkenMaster606

[QUOTE="Kahuna_1"][QUOTE="conceru3"][QUOTE="MorisUkunRasik"][QUOTE="conceru3"]

[QUOTE="MorisUkunRasik"]ps3-600$ 60-gig hardrive (that is completely self upgradeable at any time) wifi blu ray player memory reader hdmi port 600 Elite- 480 120 gig HDD (upgradeable when MS release bigger HDDs) wifi ($99) hd-dvd player (199$) minus memory card reader $780 thats before XBL and yes you can get an HDMI cable for 6 bucksconceru3

Point is that is YOUR list, because you are a HD movie lover, in my list HD-DVD and Wi-fi are totally not nessesary, but a bigger HDD is a must with the exellent Live services

You get double the PS3 60GB, for 120$ less, so as a package it is fine

yeah but if you already own a premium...its 580, if you own a core 480(without any benefits from the premium/elite)

With the premium+120GB HDD you get 2x PLUS the PS3 60GB HDD in there for 20$ less !!!!!!!

You ignored everything I said...THERE ARE 9+ million 360 OWNERS WITH PREMIUMS AND CORES 0 OWN THE ELITE...$180 FOR A STANDALODE HDD FOR THEM...dont you think MS should think more about current users then the future ones?

[QUOTE="conceru3"][QUOTE="Kahuna_1"][QUOTE="conceru3"][QUOTE="MorisUkunRasik"][QUOTE="conceru3"]

[QUOTE="MorisUkunRasik"]ps3-600$ 60-gig hardrive (that is completely self upgradeable at any time) wifi blu ray player memory reader hdmi port 600 Elite- 480 120 gig HDD (upgradeable when MS release bigger HDDs) wifi ($99) hd-dvd player (199$) minus memory card reader $780 thats before XBL and yes you can get an HDMI cable for 6 bucksKahuna_1

Point is that is YOUR list, because you are a HD movie lover, in my list HD-DVD and Wi-fi are totally not nessesary, but a bigger HDD is a must with the exellent Live services

You get double the PS3 60GB, for 120$ less, so as a package it is fine

yeah but if you already own a premium...its 580, if you own a core 480(without any benefits from the premium/elite)

With the premium+120GB HDD you get 2x PLUS the PS3 60GB HDD in there for 20$ less !!!!!!!

You ignored everything I said...THERE ARE 9+ million 360 OWNERS WITH PREMIUMS AND CORES 0 OWN THE ELITE...$180 FOR A STANDALODE HDD FOR THEM...dont you think MS should think more about current users then the future ones?

You fail to realize is that MS gives you options.

[QUOTE="Kahuna_1"][QUOTE="conceru3"][QUOTE="Kahuna_1"][QUOTE="conceru3"][QUOTE="MorisUkunRasik"][QUOTE="conceru3"]

[QUOTE="MorisUkunRasik"]ps3-600$ 60-gig hardrive (that is completely self upgradeable at any time) wifi blu ray player memory reader hdmi port 600 Elite- 480 120 gig HDD (upgradeable when MS release bigger HDDs) wifi ($99) hd-dvd player (199$) minus memory card reader $780 thats before XBL and yes you can get an HDMI cable for 6 bucksPS3_3DO

Point is that is YOUR list, because you are a HD movie lover, in my list HD-DVD and Wi-fi are totally not nessesary, but a bigger HDD is a must with the exellent Live services

You get double the PS3 60GB, for 120$ less, so as a package it is fine

yeah but if you already own a premium...its 580, if you own a core 480(without any benefits from the premium/elite)

With the premium+120GB HDD you get 2x PLUS the PS3 60GB HDD in there for 20$ less !!!!!!!

You ignored everything I said...THERE ARE 9+ million 360 OWNERS WITH PREMIUMS AND CORES 0 OWN THE ELITE...$180 FOR A STANDALODE HDD FOR THEM...dont you think MS should think more about current users then the future ones?

You fail to realize is that MS gives you options.

$180 for an hdd is a great option, and this elite is great for people that just recently bought a 360...when nintendo announced the ds lite i was so mad, i sold my ds before the value suffered anymore and am now waiting on price drops, you dont praise things like this if you are a current owner...why am i arguing with fanboys..ughhh bye

[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]You forgot the part where Playstation 3 owners have Blu-Ray built in. Which means we're not at the mercy of of the movie industry, since blu ray wont ever overtake dvd.... yuna707

A pretty pitiful attempt. Editing my post. Not to mention it's against the TOS. Oh yeah, by the way, enjoy Universal's great selection of current movies like Let's Go to Prison, Dead Silence, and Because I Said So. And newsflash, BLU-RAY HAS ALREADY OVERTAKEN HD-DVD.

[QUOTE="Kahuna_1"][QUOTE="conceru3"][QUOTE="Kahuna_1"][QUOTE="conceru3"][QUOTE="MorisUkunRasik"][QUOTE="conceru3"]

[QUOTE="MorisUkunRasik"]ps3-600$ 60-gig hardrive (that is completely self upgradeable at any time) wifi blu ray player memory reader hdmi port 600 Elite- 480 120 gig HDD (upgradeable when MS release bigger HDDs) wifi ($99) hd-dvd player (199$) minus memory card reader $780 thats before XBL and yes you can get an HDMI cable for 6 bucksPS3_3DO

Point is that is YOUR list, because you are a HD movie lover, in my list HD-DVD and Wi-fi are totally not nessesary, but a bigger HDD is a must with the exellent Live services

You get double the PS3 60GB, for 120$ less, so as a package it is fine

yeah but if you already own a premium...its 580, if you own a core 480(without any benefits from the premium/elite)

With the premium+120GB HDD you get 2x PLUS the PS3 60GB HDD in there for 20$ less !!!!!!!

You ignored everything I said...THERE ARE 9+ million 360 OWNERS WITH PREMIUMS AND CORES 0 OWN THE ELITE...$180 FOR A STANDALODE HDD FOR THEM...dont you think MS should think more about current users then the future ones?

You fail to realize is that MS gives you options.

[QUOTE="rybe1025"]Most people buy a system for games. Casual gamers will be buying a system for game snot movies. I think only people that want this blue- ray junk is Sony Fanboys. When it comes to being a gamer 120 > 60 gb MS well known for having better online gaming $480 > $600 2 biggest system seller games both on 360 on is a exclusive. Halo and GTA gamers buy to game not watch movies 360 > blue -rayMorisUkunRasik

You do realise the move from VHS to dvd was HUGE, and dvd's played on the NORMAL tv's everyone had !!!!!

Now not only you need a HDTV, but a 1080p one to see the REAL difference, there is just not enough difference and a HUGE expense involved, not with PS2 dvd though

And yes a 600$ Blue ray player is a good price IF you need one or have a good HDTV, but ALL the above are about movies, that are by far not my main entertainment media, GAMES are, and 360 is about games, PS3 only about movies and FF13, that will come to 360 for sure now

With HDMI too !!! And you get to pay ....600$ for just 60GB model ?

I think MS just won the race by far

conceru3

I just found out that PS3 does NOT include a HD cable too !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So 630$ for 60GB model, no thanks i will have the 480$ 360 with 120GB HDD !!!!

With HDMI too !!! And you get to pay ....600$ for just 60GB model ?

I think MS just won the race by far

conceru3

arrogant. foolish. fanboyish. you.

your maths is also horrendous

[QUOTE="conceru3"]

With HDMI too !!! And you get to pay ....600$ for just 60GB model ?

I think MS just won the race by far

dethroned3

arrogant. foolish. fanboyish. you.

your maths is also horrendous

What is wrong with my math ?

120/60 = 2, so 360 elite has 2x the HDD of PS3 best version

600-480 = 120$, so that version with 2x the HDD costs 120$ less

So, might i see your math ?

With HDMI too !!! And you get to pay ....600$ for just 60GB model ?

I think MS just won the race by far

conceru3

[QUOTE="conceru3"]

With HDMI too !!! And you get to pay ....600$ for just 60GB model ?

I think MS just won the race by far

familyguyvs360

You can transfer your data on PS3 ? How does that help your GAMING ???

I can talk to people over Live and put my music lists IN GAME, best feature ever making 360 way ahead in music in games department !!!

Laptop HDDs are way more expensive than nomal ones

I do not care for HD movies, or for movies that much in the first place, i am happy with my dvd player, cheapest in the market one too

ALL I CARE for is more HDD space for GAME DOWNLOADS, DEMOS and TRAILERS, and elite gives that, for 120$ less than PS3 AND 120GB than ...60GB on PS3

[QUOTE="familyguyvs360"][QUOTE="conceru3"]

With HDMI too !!! And you get to pay ....600$ for just 60GB model ?

I think MS just won the race by far

conceru3

You can transfer your data on PS3 ? How does that help your GAMING ???

I can talk to people over Live and put my music lists IN GAME, best feature ever making 360 way ahead in music in games department !!!

Laptop HDDs are way more expensive than nomal ones

I do not care for HD movies, or for movies that much in the first place, i am happy with my dvd player, cheapest in the market one too

ALL I CARE for is more HDD space for GAME DOWNLOADS, DEMOS and TRAILERS, and elite gives that, for 120$ less than PS3 AND 120GB than ...60GB on PS3

sorry but you fail miserably kid. as i said before your posts are superficial. arrogance is not the key. don't be so stubborn with the "120$ less than PS3 AND 120GB than ...60GB on PS3".

[QUOTE="conceru3"][QUOTE="familyguyvs360"][QUOTE="conceru3"]

With HDMI too !!! And you get to pay ....600$ for just 60GB model ?

I think MS just won the race by far

dethroned3

You can transfer your data on PS3 ? How does that help your GAMING ???

I can talk to people over Live and put my music lists IN GAME, best feature ever making 360 way ahead in music in games department !!!

Laptop HDDs are way more expensive than nomal ones

I do not care for HD movies, or for movies that much in the first place, i am happy with my dvd player, cheapest in the market one too

ALL I CARE for is more HDD space for GAME DOWNLOADS, DEMOS and TRAILERS, and elite gives that, for 120$ less than PS3 AND 120GB than ...60GB on PS3

sorry but you fail miserably kid. as i said before your posts are superficial. arrogance is not the key. don't be so stubborn with the "120$ less than PS3 AND 120GB than ...60GB on PS3".

Are you kidding ? I get double the HDD for 120$ less, this is a fact

[QUOTE="dethroned3"][QUOTE="conceru3"][QUOTE="familyguyvs360"][QUOTE="conceru3"]

With HDMI too !!! And you get to pay ....600$ for just 60GB model ?

I think MS just won the race by far

conceru3

You can transfer your data on PS3 ? How does that help your GAMING ???

I can talk to people over Live and put my music lists IN GAME, best feature ever making 360 way ahead in music in games department !!!

Laptop HDDs are way more expensive than nomal ones

I do not care for HD movies, or for movies that much in the first place, i am happy with my dvd player, cheapest in the market one too

ALL I CARE for is more HDD space for GAME DOWNLOADS, DEMOS and TRAILERS, and elite gives that, for 120$ less than PS3 AND 120GB than ...60GB on PS3

sorry but you fail miserably kid. as i said before your posts are superficial. arrogance is not the key. don't be so stubborn with the "120$ less than PS3 AND 120GB than ...60GB on PS3".

Are you kidding ? I get double the HDD for 120$ less, this is a fact

[QUOTE="conceru3"][QUOTE="dethroned3"][QUOTE="conceru3"][QUOTE="familyguyvs360"][QUOTE="conceru3"]

With HDMI too !!! And you get to pay ....600$ for just 60GB model ?

I think MS just won the race by far

dethroned3

You can transfer your data on PS3 ? How does that help your GAMING ???

I can talk to people over Live and put my music lists IN GAME, best feature ever making 360 way ahead in music in games department !!!

Laptop HDDs are way more expensive than nomal ones

I do not care for HD movies, or for movies that much in the first place, i am happy with my dvd player, cheapest in the market one too

ALL I CARE for is more HDD space for GAME DOWNLOADS, DEMOS and TRAILERS, and elite gives that, for 120$ less than PS3 AND 120GB than ...60GB on PS3

sorry but you fail miserably kid. as i said before your posts are superficial. arrogance is not the key. don't be so stubborn with the "120$ less than PS3 AND 120GB than ...60GB on PS3".

Are you kidding ? I get double the HDD for 120$ less, this is a fact

If they were indeed needed in my GAMING, i would agree, but they are NOT, the bigger HDD is for DL content, GAME demos and MUSIC to use in games

Again what the hell is wi-fi ?  Mem card slot ?

Free online play ? Unless the developer charges money that is, right ? And 50$ a year is hardly a considerable ammount

With HDMI too !!! And you get to pay ....600$ for just 60GB model ?

I think MS just won the race by far

conceru3

$180 for the standalone hdd??? hahhahahahhaha who the hell is actually gonna buy that?Kahuna_1

[QUOTE="Kahuna_1"][QUOTE="conceru3"][QUOTE="MorisUkunRasik"][QUOTE="conceru3"]

[QUOTE="MorisUkunRasik"]ps3-600$ 60-gig hardrive (that is completely self upgradeable at any time) wifi blu ray player memory reader hdmi port 600 Elite- 480 120 gig HDD (upgradeable when MS release bigger HDDs) wifi ($99) hd-dvd player (199$) minus memory card reader $780 thats before XBL and yes you can get an HDMI cable for 6 bucksconceru3

Point is that is YOUR list, because you are a HD movie lover, in my list HD-DVD and Wi-fi are totally not nessesary, but a bigger HDD is a must with the exellent Live services

You get double the PS3 60GB, for 120$ less, so as a package it is fine

yeah but if you already own a premium...its 580, if you own a core 480(without any benefits from the premium/elite)

With the premium+120GB HDD you get 2x PLUS the PS3 60GB HDD in there for 20$ less !!!!!!!

BTW why would nayone want HDMI, when can have a VGA connection with most new HDTVs ? The picture is clear perfect, like pc image, but with the extra amazing colors perk, and full 1370x768 resolution !!!!