So you say MGS4 looks bad? I beg to differ. ( no 56k....for real...)

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#1 tegovoltio
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How can you say this looks bad? Or are you missinformed?














So yea some wall textures and ground textures need some work and look bad, but hey it's not done yet, and if you say downgraded, look at those and notice it isn't that far from atleast the E3 06 trailer.

And yea I didn't foet the ''ugly'' ones ppl claim:




So haters can choose to post the ugly ones but keep in mind the othes that look good.
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#2 dgsag
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None of those look like gameplay.
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#3 Binski
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It looks good ..it will be on par with splinter cell graphically
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#4 snakeofsolid
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the game looks amazing, i dont see the downgrade, or maybe i just dont care cuz i love mgs regardless. im one of the few who anticapate halo 3 and MGS4, instead of only going for one and bashing the other..although i only have a 360 as of now.
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#5 nintendogamer6
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Looks about normal for next gen

dosen't look bad though, nothing too mind blowing like some people say it is

And you have to admit that the textures look pretty bad in the last pic

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#6 ihatebugers
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None of those look like gameplay.dgsag

Most of those were from the gameplay trailer....

And besides, these pics are beyond old...
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#7 Killfox
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I dont think I have ever thought it was bad. I know its in early stages and using alot of the textures from MGS3. Just halo3 is using a lot of place holder textures from halo2. Its still in pre-pre-alpha. So I expect this game to look awesome. Just look how good MGS3 looks on PS2.
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#8 TheManOfChoice
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It looks great to me, the only graphics that look bad are the ground and the cave walls. The rest are great.
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#9 the_hsoj
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are any of those gameplay screens. Any game can have good CGI heck the CGI cutscenes for Warcraft 3 looked good, but WAsrcraft 3 gameplay graphics arent that good
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#10 advertise_this
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are any of those gameplay screens. Any game can have good CGI heck the CGI cutscenes for Warcraft 3 looked good, but WAsrcraft 3 gameplay graphics arent that goodthe_hsoj
all of them are gameplay actually ... i'm glad they look as good as cgi tho.
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#11 Driftwood111
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Looks around splintercell level. Not bad.
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#12 dgsag
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Looks around splintercell level. Not bad.Driftwood111
The first one? Yeah, that looked pretty good for 2002...
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#13 tegovoltio
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Looks about normal for next gen

dosen't look bad though, nothing too mind blowing like some people say it is

And you have to admit that the textures look pretty bad in the last pic

nintendogamer6
Yea I admit the texture par but we are waiting for other stuff to improve so why not give MGS4 a chance?
It looks good ..it will be on par with splinter cell graphicallyBinski
Some even look better imo and I hope it will improve.
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#14 mythrol
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The MGS4 pictures aren't far off from the E3 trailer, however you can tell a difference. I don't think there's any doubt the character models will look good though. It seems that's a PS3 strong point. Most character models look great, while, granted, the textures need improvement. It's the same thing you can notice in Lair, it's the same thing you can notice in FNR3, and it seems that most PS3 games will go for this method. I suppose developers had to make a choice and that's what they choose to focus on. No need to say MGS4 looks bad though. It looks pretty good actually.
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#15 Heith
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The character models are insane, some of the enviornmental textures look terribly drab. My problem so far is that it's hard to tell what PS3 videos are touched up or even prerendered and which are not.. Sony obviously isn't gonna tell us :P
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#16 joshpetty
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Im a big mgs fan and even im slightly disapointment by the latest trailer in terms of graphics, im not gonna lie just because im a big fan im being honest.When you look back at the early screens from mgs2, mgs3 that were taken at a similar stage in development of the last mgs4 trailer, they look less sharpe than how the final product turned out to be, so this gives me faith. Its been a while since we have seen anything on this game, i dont think anyone can judge this game until we see the next trailer which cant be far off. I think this will give us a good idea about how the game will look when it finally ships.

If the game ships looking as good as the HD GC 2006 trailer, then in no way will i be disapointed. This is how i expect the gameplay to look when the game ships if it looks any better than its a bonus, go check it out

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#17 Fick1122
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Yuck, the last pic's textures are horrendous. I'm sure they will be fixed though.
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#18 REVENGEotSITH
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There is so many comments that I can make about those pics, but most of them will get me a 2 day suspension, so I will refrain...

edit - OK, I can't help myself - Is that one guy grabbing that statue's p****?

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#19 wooooode
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None of those look like gameplay.dgsag
That is the reason people say it does not look that good but people just dont understand.
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#20 killab2oo5
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I dont think I have ever thought it was bad. I know its in early stages and using alot of the textures from MGS3. Just halo3 is using a lot of place holder textures from halo2. Its still in pre-pre-alpha. So I expect this game to look awesome. Just look how good MGS3 looks on PS2.Killfox
Not that im saying your wrong but just never got proof,can you provide a link?
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#21 toni_xhoni
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you people dont get it, they have got plenty of time to upgrade.
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#22 LoG-Sacrament
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None of those look like gameplay.dgsag
kojima said that he recording somebody playing the game, and used a cinematic camera angle for the trailer. its like being a spectator in counterstrike.
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#23 princeofshapeir
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THOSE SCREENS ARE 100% GAMEPLAY!

Kojima does NOT BS gamers!  NONE of the MGS games have featured CGI in any part of them!  Not even in cutscenes!
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#24 acviper123
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It looks FANTASTIC. Considering there is still a year left in dev time, I cant wait to see the final product.

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#25 SKHuskie
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People play MGS for the badassary of snake not for the graphics.
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#26 AgentA-Mi6
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It looks good ..it will be on par with splinter cell graphicallyBinski
It will be far better :)
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#27 Truth-slayer
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People play MGS for the badassary of snake not for the graphics.SKHuskie
The series's high standard in visualls have been one of it's pluses too.
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#28 tegovoltio
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People play MGS for the badassary of snake not for the graphics.SKHuskie
Well maybe but if the graphics are good it's still nice.
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#29 Mordred19
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There is so many comments that I can make about those pics, but most of them will get me a 2 day suspension, so I will refrain...

edit - OK, I can't help myself - Is that one guy grabbing that statue's p****?

REVENGEotSITH

snake is pretending to be a statue, and he is acting like the "see no evil" figure from some other work of art. This is just snake's sense of humor, that all.

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#30 Dahaka-UK
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These graphics look fine to me... didn't kojima say somewhere in an article or interveiw that he purposely makes the graphics average so it has a better atmosphere in the game or something like that.. the graphics look great besides. I predict this will get a AA like the last MGS... kinda pisses you off when a generic game like gears gets an AAA cause some fat man says so.. oh well
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#31 fuzzysquash
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[QUOTE="Driftwood111"]Looks around splintercell level. Not bad.dgsag
The first one? Yeah, that looked pretty good for 2002...







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#32 zeonne
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looks wayy better then halo 3 and their both about a year off .........
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#33 Adrian_Cloud
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Best looking upcoming console game by a mile. Then Bioshock but that game is creepy.
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#34 zeonne
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[QUOTE="dgsag"][QUOTE="Driftwood111"]Looks around splintercell level. Not bad.fuzzysquash
The first one? Yeah, that looked pretty good for 2002...







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i think you made your point quite well LOL
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#35 trasherhead
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are any of those gameplay screens. Any game can have good CGI heck the CGI cutscenes for Warcraft 3 looked good, but WAsrcraft 3 gameplay graphics arent that goodthe_hsoj
Hideo Kojima doesn't use CGI for cutscenes or other stuff. they have always run right of the game engine.
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#36 trasherhead
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People play MGS for the badassary of snake not for the graphics.SKHuskie
Very true. The good grafics is just an added bonus. I remember when MGS1 came out on the PS1, that was killer grafics then;)
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#37 Conker-Fan
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heres the question: Will it look better than SC5?
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#38 tegovoltio
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heres the question: Will it look better than SC5?Conker-Fan
Or will SC5 look better than MGS4?
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#39 trasherhead
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These graphics look fine to me... didn't kojima say somewhere in an article or interveiw that he purposely makes the graphics average so it has a better atmosphere in the game or something like that.. the graphics look great besides. I predict this will get a AA like the last MGS... kinda pisses you off when a generic game like gears gets an AAA cause some fat man says so.. oh wellDahaka-UK
yeah, well every other game reviewer will give it AAA except for GS... or maybe they don't dare to go that low, every MGS fan would leave the board in rage... making no PS3 fan left realy.
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#40 trasherhead
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[QUOTE="Conker-Fan"]heres the question: Will it look better than SC5?tegovoltio
Or will SC5 look better than MGS4?

or will anyone of the MGS fan care? nope.
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#41 Conker-Fan
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[QUOTE="dgsag"][QUOTE="Driftwood111"]Looks around splintercell level. Not bad.fuzzysquash
The first one? Yeah, that looked pretty good for 2002...







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Splinter Cell 1 look much better than the SC pic you posted
http://www.gamespot.com/xbox/action/splintercell/screenindex.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=tabs&page=1
pic a screen, im not going to be biased about it

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#42 XenoNinja
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Sorry but, it still looks bad:|
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#43 rexoverbey
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THOSE SCREENS ARE 100% GAMEPLAY!

Kojima does NOT BS gamers!  NONE of the MGS games have featured CGI in any part of them!  Not even in cutscenes!
princeofshapeir
Sure buddy believe that all you want. Go look at previous Metal Gear trailers claiming it was mostly in game.
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#44 zeonne
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Sorry but, it still looks bad:|XenoNinja
looks better then anything that will ever be for the wii LOL if thats not the pot calling the kettle black.....
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#45 SuperVegeta518
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In that trailer only a small part of it was gameplay. Those two bottom screens are gameplay, only a few of the top ones are gameplay, most are CGI.
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#46 JB730
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"ZoMG teh jaggiez! n64 all over again!"
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#47 Zandeus
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hey look its 30 thousand shades of red.......

and MGS IV is like 60 thousand shades of green&gray... it must be twice as good as the Virtual Boy.... HOORAY!

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#48 Killfox
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NO matter what the game looks like. People will buy it. I have always expected the best from kojima and he has delivered every time. I dont think he is going to half *** this one. Also about my other post. Givin that the game will probably come out by the end of this year or early next year. I took a rough estimate on which stages it was in. I believe kojima when hes says that it may even look better than what we saw at TGS 05.
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#50 Killfox
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"ZoMG teh jaggiez! n64 all over again!"JB730
I can say the same for halo3. Which is being highly defended yet this game is being completely bashed. Hmm some how I dont think that is right. Since kojima always delivers. I too think bungie will deliver as well. They are both in pre-alpha stages at this point. Come talk to me when it a month away from release or E306 since its supposedly going to be playable.