So...Crysis sold 87k...and UT3 (PC) sold 34k...ummmm?

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#1 Dreams-Visions
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Were either of these games available as direct downloads? Because as it stands, Lair has outsold both of them :|

Hermits...throw me a bone here.

BTW, I read that people are illegally dowloading this game to the tune of some 15,000 people? WTH is going on?

Hermits, please advise.

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Oh cmon Dream this is flambait, theres 2 subjects on this already in the last 2 pages, 1 has hundreds of replies.
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Were either of these games available as direct downloads? Because as it stands, Lair has outsold both of them :|

Hermits...throw me a bone here.

BTW, I read that people are illegally dowloading this game to the tune of some 15,000 people? WTH is going on?

Hermits, please advise.

Dreams-Visions

I dont really keep up with sales but im pretty sure you can buy UT3 on steam. Oh and I like you sig. Baseball will never be the same as it once was.

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Oh cmon Dream this is flambait, theres 2 subjects on this already in the last 2 pages, 1 has hundreds of replies.Meu2k7

I didn't see them. I looked through the first 60 threads and didn't see it. Is this game available for download or not? You could have spared that waste of a reply and simply answered the question. thanks.

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PC gaming is dieing. Plain and simple.

The market has become more demanding for simpler alternatives to gaming. It's going to be almost completely console based by next generation, in my opinion.

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#6 Dreams-Visions
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I dont really keep up with sales but im pretty sure you can buy UT3 on steam. Oh and I like you sig. Baseball will never be the same as it once was.

Killfox

Ok then. That makes MUCH more sense. I knew those numbers couldn't be painting the whole picture. Can Crysis also be bought as direct download?

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[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]Oh cmon Dream this is flambait, theres 2 subjects on this already in the last 2 pages, 1 has hundreds of replies.Dreams-Visions

I didn't see them. I looked through the first 60 threads and didn't see it. Is this game available for download or not? You could have spared that waste of a reply and simply answered the question. thanks.

UT3 is on Direct2Drive, and MAYBE* ( I dont know) Steam

Crysis is on EA Downloader.

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PC gaming is dieing. Plain and simple.

The market has become more demanding for simpler alternatives to gaming. It's going to be almost completely console based by next generation, in my opinion.

dewmandew7

That's pretty far off topic, but according to EA...console gaming is dying; not PC gaming. And clearly there are certain genres of PC gaming that are pwning consoles (MMO).

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When I think Unreal Tournament, I don't really think Americans...

I'll want to see the European numbers for that game before talking.

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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]Oh cmon Dream this is flambait, theres 2 subjects on this already in the last 2 pages, 1 has hundreds of replies.Meu2k7

I didn't see them. I looked through the first 60 threads and didn't see it. Is this game available for download or not? You could have spared that waste of a reply and simply answered the question. thanks.

UT3 is on Direct2Drive, and MAYBE* ( I dont know) Steam

Crysis is on EA Downloader.

thanks for the clarification. do a lot of people use direct2drive? does it keep stats on how many downloads it tallies?

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When I think Unreal Tournament, I don't really think Americans...

I'll want to see the European numbers for that game before talking.

ToScA-

UT isn't popular here? It's in my top 3 favorite franchises of all-time. :)

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[QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]Oh cmon Dream this is flambait, theres 2 subjects on this already in the last 2 pages, 1 has hundreds of replies.Dreams-Visions

I didn't see them. I looked through the first 60 threads and didn't see it. Is this game available for download or not? You could have spared that waste of a reply and simply answered the question. thanks.

UT3 is on Direct2Drive, and MAYBE* ( I dont know) Steam

Crysis is on EA Downloader.

thanks for the clarification. do a lot of people use direct2drive? does it keep stats on how many downloads it tallies?

You could get UT3 nearly a week early on Direct2Drive so I wouldnt be suprised if it had quite a few sales, even though this game personally doesnt deserve it.

I think, im not sure, but isnt Direct2Drive part of Fileplanet? Its pretty popular.

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Hey are these sales numbers just US???
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PC gaming is dieing. Plain and simple.

The market has become more demanding for simpler alternatives to gaming. It's going to be almost completely console based by next generation, in my opinion.

dewmandew7

I will avoid listning to the credibility of someone sporting a PS3 thank you.

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[QUOTE="ToScA-"]

When I think Unreal Tournament, I don't really think Americans...

I'll want to see the European numbers for that game before talking.

Dreams-Visions

UT isn't popular here? It's in my top 3 favorite franchises of all-time. :)


Then why did you go with the console version ? :|
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Were either of these games available as direct downloads? Because as it stands, Lair has outsold both of them :|

Hermits...throw me a bone here.

BTW, I read that people are illegally dowloading this game to the tune of some 15,000 people? WTH is going on?

Hermits, please advise.

Dreams-Visions
Wow....prople need to stop acting as though Crysis has stopped selling....Those are sales figure for first two weeks for US excluding digital distribution.
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]Oh cmon Dream this is flambait, theres 2 subjects on this already in the last 2 pages, 1 has hundreds of replies.Meu2k7

I didn't see them. I looked through the first 60 threads and didn't see it. Is this game available for download or not? You could have spared that waste of a reply and simply answered the question. thanks.

UT3 is on Direct2Drive, and MAYBE* ( I dont know) Steam

Crysis is on EA Downloader.

thanks for the clarification. do a lot of people use direct2drive? does it keep stats on how many downloads it tallies?

You could get UT3 nearly a week early on Direct2Drive so I wouldnt be suprised if it had quite a few sales, even though this game personally doesnt deserve it.

I think, im not sure, but isnt Direct2Drive part of Fileplanet? Its pretty popular.

I believe it is part of FilePlanet, and I know that's huge. You didn't like UT3 on the PC? I hear it feels console-ish?

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#18 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

Were either of these games available as direct downloads? Because as it stands, Lair has outsold both of them :|

Hermits...throw me a bone here.

BTW, I read that people are illegally dowloading this game to the tune of some 15,000 people? WTH is going on?

Hermits, please advise.

froidnite

Wow....prople need to stop acting as though Crysis has stopped selling....Those are sales figure for two weeks.

We know it's not done. Duh. But it's the principle of the matter. Look at it relative to other major games sales performance over that same length of time. Look at UT the same way. Not good.

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#19 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="ToScA-"]

When I think Unreal Tournament, I don't really think Americans...

I'll want to see the European numbers for that game before talking.

anshul89

UT isn't popular here? It's in my top 3 favorite franchises of all-time. :)


Then why did you go with the console version ? :|

What makes you think I don't plan on getting both? :|

I'm not struggling for income. Check the blog.

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I believe it is part of FilePlanet, and I know that's huge. You didn't like UT3 on the PC? I hear it feels console-ish?

Dreams-Visions
The mod community is almost inactive for UT3 right now.
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Hey are these sales numbers just US??? Killfox

not sure. link:

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/12/14/crysis-sales-in-crisis-ut3-gets-fragged-too/

that's where I got the numbers from. I just rounded up.

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Abit consolish in some ways yes, I dont like the toned down aspects of UT2004, like the double jump was pretty lame, most of the vehicles are now far too easy to kill with (accurate & deadly at the same time) , the Story mode was abysmal but I didnt expect much different.

Overall, other than graphics, it wasnt impressive, most of the maps wernt that good, some were "WHOA" but most were not, AI was ridiculous.

I dunno i might of been expecting too much, but as suggested, Crysis & UT3 were hyped by Consolites aswell while many games this year have sold better than them and already have comunities put togteher.

My Multiplayer FPS of the year is Team Fortress 2, very well balanced, feels semi like an RPG. great fun. UT3 was just UE3 nerfed UT2004.

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#23 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

I believe it is part of FilePlanet, and I know that's huge. You didn't like UT3 on the PC? I hear it feels console-ish?

froidnite

The mod community is almost inactive for UT3 right now.

WTF?! That's very...not UT-like. :(

Then again, I don't remember a metric ton of options during the summer UT2004 launched. The goods came a couple of months later.

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Abit consolish in some ways yes, I dont like the toned down aspects of UT2004, like the double jump was pretty lame, most of the vehicles are now far too easy to kill with (accurate & deadly at the same time) , the Story mode was abysmal but I didnt expect much different.

Overall, other than graphics, it wasnt impressive, most of the maps wernt that good, some were "WHOA" but most were not, AI was ridiculous.

I dunno i might of been expecting too much, but as suggested, Crysis & UT3 were hyped by Consolites aswell while many games this year have sold better than them and already have comunities put togteher.

My Multiplayer FPS of the year is Team Fortress 2, very well balanced, feels semi like an RPG. great fun. UT3 was just UE3 nerfed UT2004.

Meu2k7

I see. Thanks for the commentary. I wish they would just recapture the magic of UT '99 and call it a day. Stop screwing with the formula. UT '99 was perfect, IMO. the series has been trying to recapture that while adding unnecessary stuff ever since.

And where the hell is Facing Worlds in UT3?! That's like...a requirement. :)

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#25 froidnite
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[QUOTE="froidnite"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

I believe it is part of FilePlanet, and I know that's huge. You didn't like UT3 on the PC? I hear it feels console-ish?

Dreams-Visions

The mod community is almost inactive for UT3 right now.

WTF?! That's very...not UT-like. :(

Then again, I don't remember a metric ton of options during the summer UT2004 launched. The goods came a couple of months later.

I highly doubt UT3 will see as many mods as UT2K3/UT2K4 did.
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#26 Meu2k7
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Abit consolish in some ways yes, I dont like the toned down aspects of UT2004, like the double jump was pretty lame, most of the vehicles are now far too easy to kill with (accurate & deadly at the same time) , the Story mode was abysmal but I didnt expect much different.

Overall, other than graphics, it wasnt impressive, most of the maps wernt that good, some were "WHOA" but most were not, AI was ridiculous.

I dunno i might of been expecting too much, but as suggested, Crysis & UT3 were hyped by Consolites aswell while many games this year have sold better than them and already have comunities put togteher.

My Multiplayer FPS of the year is Team Fortress 2, very well balanced, feels semi like an RPG. great fun. UT3 was just UE3 nerfed UT2004.

Dreams-Visions

I see. Thanks for the commentary. I wish they would just recapture the magic of UT '99 and call it a day. Stop screwing with the formula. UT '99 was perfect, IMO. the series has been trying to recapture that while adding unnecessary stuff ever since.

And where the hell is Facing Worlds in UT3?! That's like...a requirement. :)

A good point was brought up earlier, the main focus of Crysis was selling hardware as Crytek was clearly getting heavy support from Nvidia/Intel. While the game sales ( that is just the US btw, the link you posted ) wont be amazing off the bat. Its hyped up hundreds of thousands to upgrade to the 8800 series, or get new PCs, or even the 9800 series in February.

While not a huge deal to Crysis, these hyped purchases now open EVERY SINGLE PC game available other than Crysis to run perfectly at max settings, therefor helping the system as a whole.

Im sure this was part of thier strategy all along, it makes perfect sense.

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LMAO how many people could buy Crysis with it's cutting edge tech? 1% of PC owners?

PC gamers primarly have below average to average hardware.

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[QUOTE="anshul89"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="ToScA-"]

When I think Unreal Tournament, I don't really think Americans...

I'll want to see the European numbers for that game before talking.

Dreams-Visions

UT isn't popular here? It's in my top 3 favorite franchises of all-time. :)


Then why did you go with the console version ? :|

What makes you think I don't plan on getting both? :|

I'm not struggling for income. Check the blog.

When did I say you were struggling for income ? :|

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LMAO how many people could buy Crysis with it's cutting edge tech? 1% of PC owners?

PC gamers primarly have below average to average hardware.

Gunraidan

supposedly, people are torrenting this game by the thousands. tens of thousands, actually. so apparently, there are some. :?

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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

Abit consolish in some ways yes, I dont like the toned down aspects of UT2004, like the double jump was pretty lame, most of the vehicles are now far too easy to kill with (accurate & deadly at the same time) , the Story mode was abysmal but I didnt expect much different.

Overall, other than graphics, it wasnt impressive, most of the maps wernt that good, some were "WHOA" but most were not, AI was ridiculous.

I dunno i might of been expecting too much, but as suggested, Crysis & UT3 were hyped by Consolites aswell while many games this year have sold better than them and already have comunities put togteher.

My Multiplayer FPS of the year is Team Fortress 2, very well balanced, feels semi like an RPG. great fun. UT3 was just UE3 nerfed UT2004.

Meu2k7

I see. Thanks for the commentary. I wish they would just recapture the magic of UT '99 and call it a day. Stop screwing with the formula. UT '99 was perfect, IMO. the series has been trying to recapture that while adding unnecessary stuff ever since.

And where the hell is Facing Worlds in UT3?! That's like...a requirement. :)

A good point was brought up earlier, the main focus of Crysis was selling hardware as Crytek was clearly getting heavy support from Nvidia/Intel. While the game sales ( that is just the US btw, the link you posted ) wont be amazing off the bat. Its hyped up hundreds of thousands to upgrade to the 8800 series, or get new PCs, or even the 9800 series in February.

While not a huge deal to Crysis, these hyped purchases now open EVERY SINGLE PC game available other than Crysis to run perfectly at max settings, therefor helping the system as a whole.

Im sure this was part of thier strategy all along, it makes perfect sense.

Best post in the thread so far.

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LMAO how many people could buy Crysis with it's cutting edge tech? 1% of PC owners?

PC gamers primarly have below average to average hardware.

Gunraidan

Yeah 8800's are below average :)
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="anshul89"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="ToScA-"]

When I think Unreal Tournament, I don't really think Americans...

I'll want to see the European numbers for that game before talking.

anshul89

UT isn't popular here? It's in my top 3 favorite franchises of all-time. :)


Then why did you go with the console version ? :|

What makes you think I don't plan on getting both? :|

I'm not struggling for income. Check the blog.

When did I say you were struggling for income ? :|

Good. The points have been made. Here's a cookie. Let's advance the conversation onto other matters.

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The death of PC gaming? A sad day for all gamers indeed.
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#34 Mizarus
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cod4, orange box and the wither sold farbetter then ut3 and crysis, also UT3 is not very popular on the eyes of the pc gamer right now, Crysis is too demanding meaning it should sell over a long period of time rather then on a couple of mounths, not to mention thats only the US sales, using 2 games to say that pc game is dieng(as many posters here did, not the tc) is pretty stupid.

not to mention that if PC gaming die, console gaming wont survive for much long

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The death of PC gaming? A sad day for all gamers indeed.thirstychainsaw

Xbox 360 is saving gaming

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[QUOTE="Gunraidan"]

LMAO how many people could buy Crysis with it's cutting edge tech? 1% of PC owners?

PC gamers primarly have below average to average hardware.

Dreams-Visions

supposedly, people are torrenting this game by the thousands. tens of thousands, actually. so apparently, there are some. :?

Unfortunately, people torrent console games too.
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what happen to pc being so much bigger then console sales?
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what happen to pc being so much bigger then console sales?deadmeat59

You said this in the other thread aswell. What happened to reading before posting?

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what happen to pc being so much bigger then console sales?deadmeat59

WoW sells amazingly.

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[QUOTE="deadmeat59"]what happen to pc being so much bigger then console sales?Meu2k7

You said this in the other thread aswell. What happened to reading before posting?

Its too hard for people like him.

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Crysis could do with some marketing in my opinion. It's silly to spend such money on a technical wonderment only to stick it on shelves and not tell anyone about it. If you dont keep up with gaming news, you're not going to know a thing about it. All they need is a PS3-style advert with some action and a scary voice telling you how the game is smarter than you are and people will be more inclined to give it a try.
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[QUOTE="deadmeat59"]what happen to pc being so much bigger then console sales?Dreams-Visions

WoW sells amazingly.

Mhmm, I want to know from lemmings, other than GTA4 ... what netx year for them is going to sell as much as these 3:

Starcraft 2 , Wrath of the Lich King, Spore?

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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Gunraidan"]

LMAO how many people could buy Crysis with it's cutting edge tech? 1% of PC owners?

PC gamers primarly have below average to average hardware.

froidnite

supposedly, people are torrenting this game by the thousands. tens of thousands, actually. so apparently, there are some. :?

Unfortunately, people torrent console games too.

It's not that easy with consoles cause you have to mod the console first then you get banned from XBL. They make it way too easy for PC gamers to get pirated copies of games.

As for PS3 games I haven't read anything about people getting bootleg copies of games or if Sony is banning people from PSN.

I can afford to buy games and wouldn't bother with pirated crap.

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[QUOTE="deadmeat59"]what happen to pc being so much bigger then console sales?Dreams-Visions

WoW sells amazingly.

So has other PC titles released this year like witcher, Bioshock, C&C3, Orange box etc.
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[QUOTE="Gunraidan"]

LMAO how many people could buy Crysis with it's cutting edge tech? 1% of PC owners?

PC gamers primarly have below average to average hardware.

Dreams-Visions

supposedly, people are torrenting this game by the thousands. tens of thousands, actually. so apparently, there are some. :?

Do you have any proof of this? I mean a game of the calibur of Crysis would be extremely hard to priate with efficent results.

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[QUOTE="froidnite"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Gunraidan"]

LMAO how many people could buy Crysis with it's cutting edge tech? 1% of PC owners?

PC gamers primarly have below average to average hardware.

Geek_Speak101

supposedly, people are torrenting this game by the thousands. tens of thousands, actually. so apparently, there are some. :?

Unfortunately, people torrent console games too.

It's not that easy with consoles cause you have to mod the console first then you get banned from XBL. They make it way too easy for PC gamers to get pirated copies of games.

As for PS3 games I haven't read anything about people getting bootleg copies of games or if Sony is banning people from PSN.

I can afford to buy games and wouldn't bother with pirated crap.

Banned form Xboxlive? so? That means you cant play online or get nerdscore?

Same on the PC, you cant play online. so I ask you, whats the difference?

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Despite what hermits say, I doubt digital distribution is very high. Outside of Steam, I'd say the rest are drops in the bucket.
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[QUOTE="froidnite"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Gunraidan"]

LMAO how many people could buy Crysis with it's cutting edge tech? 1% of PC owners?

PC gamers primarly have below average to average hardware.

Geek_Speak101

supposedly, people are torrenting this game by the thousands. tens of thousands, actually. so apparently, there are some. :?

Unfortunately, people torrent console games too.

It's not that easy with consoles cause you have to mod the console first then you get banned from XBL. They make it way too easy for PC gamers to get pirated copies of games.

As for PS3 games I haven't read anything about people getting bootleg copies of games or if Sony is banning people from PSN.

I can afford to buy games and wouldn't bother with pirated crap.

And it's impossible to play online with a pirated game on PC too.

And who said you were pirating games anyway:roll:

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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Gunraidan"]

LMAO how many people could buy Crysis with it's cutting edge tech? 1% of PC owners?

PC gamers primarly have below average to average hardware.

Gunraidan

supposedly, people are torrenting this game by the thousands. tens of thousands, actually. so apparently, there are some. :?

Do you have any proof of this? I mean a game of the calibur of Crysis would be extremely hard to priate with efficent results.

I'm not pointing you to any torrents. You can find them yourself if you're that curious. I just did a check...I counted about 14,000.

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#50 Geek_Speak101
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

[QUOTE="deadmeat59"]what happen to pc being so much bigger then console sales?Meu2k7

WoW sells amazingly.

Mhmm, I want to know from lemmings, other than GTA4 ... what netx year for them is going to sell as much as these 3:

Starcraft 2 , Wrath of the Lich King, Spore?

The 360 has lots of games in 08.

Heres the ones buying:

GTA4, RSV2, NG2, GeOW2, Fable 2, Too Human, Kingdom Under FIre, DMC4, RE5 and I'm sure there will be a lot others I will get.