Some developers are killing PC Gaming

For someone like myself who has a high end PC, and a 360 / PS3... it pisses me off when developers decide they are going to delay the PC version. It boggles my mind. In many cases, I don't want to wait it out. Certian games, I want to play immediately.

Splinter Cell Conviction is the latest example. Yet, I'm being told I have to wait to play the game now, or play the inferior version even though I have a killer system?

Really ticked man.

No whats killing PC gaming are idiotic developers like Ubisoft with their half assed ports. Most of the time the PC version 'should" be better as long as they make a decent attempt to port the game.

No whats killing PC gaming are idiotic developers like Ubisoft with their half assed ports. Most of the time the PC version 'should" be better as long as they make a decent attempt to port the game.

JangoWuzHere

This. M$ should also be mentioned, they have done everything in their power to piss PC gamers.

No whats killing PC gaming are idiotic developers like Ubisoft with their half assed ports. Most of the time the PC version 'should" be better as long as they make a decent attempt to port the game.

JangoWuzHere

Some of the PC Fanbase (pirates) are killing PC Gaming too.

Blame pirates for **** the industry and creating DRM

Not developers. Publishers. And even then, it's mostly only Microsoft. They're using timed exclusives to try to coerce PC gamers into buying Xbox 360s (they shamelessly admit this as their intent). I wish they'd just accept that Windows is as much their gaming platform as the X360. xDimMaK

No whats killing PC gaming are idiotic developers like Ubisoft with their half assed ports.

JangoWuzHere

No whats killing PC gaming are idiotic developers like Ubisoft with their half assed ports. Most of the time the PC version 'should" be better as long as they make a decent attempt to port the game.

JangoWuzHere

Console-inspired UIs and control schemes are probably the most annoying things to experience in a PC game.

xDimMaK

PC gaming is dying :(

No whats killing PC gaming are idiotic developers like Ubisoft with their half assed ports. Most of the time the PC version 'should" be better as long as they make a decent attempt to port the game.

JangoWuzHere

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No whats killing PC gaming are idiotic developers like Ubisoft with their half assed ports. Most of the time the PC version 'should" be better as long as they make a decent attempt to port the game.

Dead-Memories

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

No whats killing PC gaming are idiotic developers like Ubisoft with their half assed ports. Most of the time the PC version 'should" be better as long as they make a decent attempt to port the game.

Dead-Memories

No whats killing PC gaming are idiotic developers like Ubisoft with their half assed ports. Most of the time the PC version 'should" be better as long as they make a decent attempt to port the game.

Asassin's Creed on the PC was horrendeous :?, the new PoP I heard was alright, but it doesn't redeem their normally half assed ports. Dead-Memories

[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"][QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

No whats killing PC gaming are idiotic developers like Ubisoft with their half assed ports. Most of the time the PC version 'should" be better as long as they make a decent attempt to port the game.

Not developers. Publishers. And even then, it's mostly only Microsoft. They're using timed exclusives to try to coerce PC gamers into buying Xbox 360s (they shamelessly admit this as their intent). I wish they'd just accept that Windows is as much their gaming platform as the X360. Killing one for the other doesn't make much sense, especially since they'd lose a massive selling point for their operating systems in the process.

EDIT: Yeah, I guess you could include bad ports as well. Console-inspired UIs and control schemes are probably the most annoying things to experience in a PC game. But I don't think that's really a widespread problem, let alone killing the PC gaming industry.

xDimMaK

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[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"] ^^ Ubisoft has not been good to PC gamers :evil: SparkyProtocol

[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"][QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]It hasn't? I would go that far, they've published a lot of great PCgames, especially Anno 1701/1404 and Silent Hunter 3/4

even resident evil 4 which is a example of a straight console port, is still better on pc than the gamecube version.umakemeangry

vega on pc might be different game from console version like how ghost recon on pc is different from the ps3/360 versionsumakemeangry

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No whats killing PC gaming are idiotic developers like Ubisoft with their half assed ports. Most of the time the PC version 'should" be better as long as they make a decent attempt to port the game.

dc337

Hilarous because ubisoft has pc exclusive games and wii exclusive games. They don't have ps3 or 360 exclusive games...

Sony and nintendo A**holes are doing job of Killing PC gaming for more than 20 years.

Those Fu*****know how exactly to kill PC.Mostly American Developers supports PC but Japanese developers(Exclude Capcom)will never support it.

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"] R6 Vegas 1 and 2 work well on PC.SparkyProtocol

...it's mostly only Microsoft. They're using timed exclusives to try to coerce PC gamers into buying Xbox 360s (they shamelessly admit this as their intent). I wish they'd just accept that Windows is as much their gaming platform as the X360.

xDimMaK

This really is THE reason that PC gaming has been laboring. Back in 2000 just before the Xbox release, Microsoft admitted that PC gaming was in the way of their Xbox strategy. I think they are probably suprised at how well PC gaming is still doing despite their efforts to curtail its gamer base.

They have slowly been trying to erode support for the PC and coerce gamers to invest in their Xbox platform. This is clearly evident by the fact that they hold back PC release dates and their publishing studio now produces virtually no PC game titles. They want to control the entire video entertainment industry through their hardware. As a result, I don't think I've ever witnessed a more dull and boring time in gaming history as I've witnessed in the past two years. Coincidentally this period seems to coincide with their second Xbox product.

[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"][QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]Didn't play Vegas 2, but Vegas 1 was pretty shoddy port and that's not even taking account how they turned a brilliant tactical shooter into some sort of CoD clone. Not to mention blantantly lying to PCgamers about it for a year

Sony and nintendo A**holes are doing job of Killing PC gaming for more than 20 years.

Those Fu*****know how exactly to kill PC.Mostly American Developers supports PC but Japanese developers(Exclude Capcom)will never support it.

badtaker

Yet Microsoft is doing more harm to PC gaming than Sony and Nintendo combined. :roll:

[QUOTE="umakemeangry"]even resident evil 4 which is a example of a straight console port, is still better on pc than the gamecube version.SparkyProtocol

[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"][QUOTE="umakemeangry"]even resident evil 4 which is a example of a straight console port, is still better on pc than the gamecube version.umakemeangry

the real story is that developers are paid for exclusivity and time releases by MS and Sony in their war for supremecy.

They pay to have games exclusive to their platform or time released on another platform in the hope they can increase their market share.

Once a game has been delayed on one platform then you are guaranteed to have slower -lower sales on that platform. Once that dynamic is put in to place why would you then invest money in polishing games to the best of your ability.

When there is a multiplatform release done at the same time then the PC does very well in sales e.g. Fallout 3 (in recent memory). Given the choice of getting the game on your system of choice at release for those who own gaming PC's and consoles, I would suspect that the majority would get it for their PC. Denied that choice then they will get it for their console instead. It is only those who don't have a console or those people who are prepared to wait for the better gaming experience on the PC who don't buy a game on release if it is time delayed.

There is a big difference between developers leaving the PC because they don't want to develop for it, as opposed to being paid vast amounts of money by Sony and MS for exclusivity or to not release at the same time as consoles.

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Sony and nintendo A**holes are doing job of Killing PC gaming for more than 20 years.

Those Fu*****know how exactly to kill PC.Mostly American Developers supports PC but Japanese developers(Exclude Capcom)will never support it.

HenriH-42

Yet Microsoft is doing more harm to PC gaming than Sony and Nintendo combined. :roll:

When there is a multiplatform release done at the same time then the PC does very well in sales i.e. Fallout 3 (in recent memory). Given the choice of getting the game on your system of choice at release for those who own gaming PC's and consoles, I would suspect that the majority would get it for their PC. Denied that choice then they will get it for their console instead. It is only those who don't have a console or those people who are prepared to wait for the better gaming experience on the PC who don't buy a game on release if it is time delayed.

N3xus9

I loved how in one interview MS guy got careless and said this:

If we launch a game that is on 360 and PC simultaneously, we basically shoot ourselves in the foot by allowing the German market to choose to play the PC version - because they are more likely to buy that than spend their money on the Xbox 360. (...) If we launched a Halo game on PC and 360 in Germany simultaneously, 80 per cent of sales would be on the PC

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[QUOTE="badtaker"]

Sony and nintendo A**holes are doing job of Killing PC gaming for more than 20 years.

Those Fu*****know how exactly to kill PC.Mostly American Developers supports PC but Japanese developers(Exclude Capcom)will never support it.

badtaker

Yet Microsoft is doing more harm to PC gaming than Sony and Nintendo combined. :roll:

* Moved FASA franchises (Battletech, CrimsonSkies and Shadowrun) to Xbox, when they flopped there MS closed down FASA studios and sold the IPs. Not to mention that they didn't extend the relationships with independent PC developers who worked on those franchises in their PC forms (especially Zipper is a good example, they went in to Playstation 2 where they created the popular SOCOM franchise and eventually got bought by Sony)
* Moved Links and Midtown Madness to Xbox, they flopped there, so Access Software was sold to 2K
* Let go of Digital Anvil teams who worked on PC Conquest: Frontier Wars and Loose Cannon. The remaining team was switched to Xbox to work on BruteForce, it flopped, MS as always closed them down.
* Got rid of Ashersons Call franchise by selling it back to Turbine
* Let Big Hug Games go (despite owning part of it), the company was bought by THQ
* Canceled the MMORPG Mythica
* Canceled MS Train Simulator 2 (it's developed KUJU eventually restarted the project and released it as Rail Simulator through Electronic Arts)
* Got rid of Marvel Online MMORPG, the devs went to Take2 where it became Champions Online
* First switched Ensemble (their most successful PC dev and one that specialized in games that do not work all that well on consoles) to 360 to make Halo Wars and then when the game was almost done they announced the studio will be closed down when the game ships.
* Zoo Tycoon IP is no longer in MS portfolio as the developer Blue Fang has switched publishers to THQ
* They bought PC-centric Lionhead Studios and from that moment there's just sound of crickets when asking about any upcoming PC projects they have.
* Even some ports of console games MS published (namely Jade Empire and Mass Effect) weren't published by Microsoft

let's not even forget about the whole GFWL fiasco, closing down ACES Studio (and canceling MS Train Sim2...for the second time!!) or recent Alan Wake nonsense.

Sony actualy publishes and develops plenty of PCgames, compared to Microsoft Sony is a PCgaming powerhouse

* Moved FASA franchises (Battletech, CrimsonSkies and Shadowrun) to Xbox, when they flopped there MS closed down FASA studios and sold the IPs. Not to mention that they didn't extend the relationships with independent PC developers who worked on those franchises in their PC forms (especially Zipper is a good example, they went in to Playstation 2 where they created the popular SOCOM franchise and eventually got bought by Sony)
* Moved Links and Midtown Madness to Xbox, they flopped there, so Access Software was sold to 2K
* Let go of Digital Anvil teams who worked on PC Conquest: Frontier Wars and Loose Cannon. The remaining team was switched to Xbox to work on BruteForce, it flopped, MS as always closed them down.
* Got rid of Ashersons Call franchise by selling it back to Turbine
* Let Big Hug Games go (despite owning part of it), the company was bought by THQ
* Canceled the MMORPG Mythica
* Canceled MS Train Simulator 2 (it's developed KUJU eventually restarted the project and released it as Rail Simulator through Electronic Arts)
* Got rid of Marvel Online MMORPG, the devs went to Take2 where it became Champions Online
* First switched Ensemble (their most successful PC dev and one that specialized in games that do not work all that well on consoles) to 360 to make Halo Wars and then when the game was almost done they announced the studio will be closed down when the game ships.
* Zoo Tycoon IP is no longer in MS portfolio as the developer Blue Fang has switched publishers to THQ
* They bought PC-centric Lionhead Studios and from that moment there's just sound of crickets when asking about any upcoming PC projects they have.
* Even some ports of console games MS published (namely Jade Empire and Mass Effect) weren't published by Microsoft

let's not even forget about the whole GFWL fiasco, closing down ACES Studio (and canceling MS Train Sim2...for the second time!!) or recent Alan Wake nonsense.

Sony actualy publishes and develops plenty of PCgames, compared to Microsoft Sony is a PCgaming powerhouse

For someone like myself who has a high end PC, and a 360 / PS3... it pisses me off when developers decide they are going to delay the PC version. It boggles my mind. In many cases, I don't want to wait it out. Certian games, I want to play immediately.

Splinter Cell Conviction is the latest example. Yet, I'm being told I have to wait to play the game now, or play the inferior version even though I have a killer system?

Really ticked man.

SquatsAreAwesom

Just tough it out, PC gaming isnt dying, its just in its depression stage, it will bounce back and crush the pathetic consoles when ps4 and xbox720 launch with crappy titles. Just wait.