Some People like Cho Sung Hi loved Vid games = every gamer is a dangerous ?

Seriously.. How much did GTA sell.. Like 15 Million... right..?

Now if you think about it.. About 10 to 20 people who played video games also did massacres.. (like Cho Sung Hi or that guy from Columbine and stuff)

Now out of 15 million people. and even more if you count in Halo , Doom, Half Life and other shooters.. as well as Resident Evil, Devil May Cry and what not.. only a handful killed people and the rest is potentially dangerous now..?

What kind of logic is that.. ???

Now add all the people drinking alcohol and beating up people, committing crime or what ever and compare it to the people drinking alcohol....

Umm i doubt the ratio will be much lower... 

So why do gamers get all that blame and people drinking some beer or wine occasionally get.. what.. nothing...

where is the logic in this world... god.. 

There is no evidence that shows Cho Sung Hui being a gamer.

/thread.

Jack Tompson...

Thats it.

Seriously, this guy makes anything look bad.  He could make Orange Juice vanish from shelves if he put his mind to it. 

Jack Thompson eats logic.

Did you not know that? 

Seriously.. How much did GTA sell.. Like 15 Million... right..?

 

Now if you think about it.. About 10 to 20 people who played video games also did massacres.. (like Cho Sung Hi or that guy from Columbine and stuff)

 

Now out of 15 million people. and even more if you count in Halo , Doom, Half Life and other shooters.. as well as Resident Evil, Devil May Cry and what not.. only a handful killed people and the rest is potentially dangerous now..?

 

What kind of logic is that.. ???

 

Now add all the people drinking alcohol and beating up people, committing crime or what ever and compare it to the people drinking alcohol....

Umm i doubt the ratio will be much lower... 

 

So why do gamers get all that blame and people drinking some beer or wine occasionally get.. what.. nothing...

 

where is the logic in this world... god.. 

farnham

Childish logic. Columbine incident was more than enough to censor gaming. When will you gamers talk the responsiblity? That's right majority of you all or at a stage called "self identity vs. the world"

There is no evidence that shows Cho Sung Hui being a gamer.

/thread.

Redmoonxl2

^^^ 

Videogames are a scapegoat. End of story.jim_shorts

There is no evidence that shows Cho Sung Hui being a gamer.

/thread.

Redmoonxl2

there is, it is in a nyt article I believe where he plays counterstrike.

[QUOTE="farnham"]

Seriously.. How much did GTA sell.. Like 15 Million... right..?

 

Now if you think about it.. About 10 to 20 people who played video games also did massacres.. (like Cho Sung Hi or that guy from Columbine and stuff)

 

Now out of 15 million people. and even more if you count in Halo , Doom, Half Life and other shooters.. as well as Resident Evil, Devil May Cry and what not.. only a handful killed people and the rest is potentially dangerous now..?

 

What kind of logic is that.. ???

 

Now add all the people drinking alcohol and beating up people, committing crime or what ever and compare it to the people drinking alcohol....

Umm i doubt the ratio will be much lower... 

 

So why do gamers get all that blame and people drinking some beer or wine occasionally get.. what.. nothing...

 

where is the logic in this world... god.. 

shungokustasu

Childish logic. Columbine incident was more than enough to censor gaming. When will you gamers talk the responsiblity? That's right majority of you all or at a stage called "self identity vs. the world"

That had influence from the movie matrix

[QUOTE="Redmoonxl2"]

There is no evidence that shows Cho Sung Hui being a gamer.

/thread.

too_much_eslim

there is, it is in a nyt article I believe where he plays counterstrike.

Nope. According to the testimony of all his classmates, dorm mates, family and teachers, he was simply a depressed kid who wrote disturbing plays, took medication and watched Spike TV. No one who knew him mentioned that he was a gamer at all and only described him as a loner who never participated in class and ignored invitations to social venues. 

[QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="farnham"]

Seriously.. How much did GTA sell.. Like 15 Million... right..?

 

Now if you think about it.. About 10 to 20 people who played video games also did massacres.. (like Cho Sung Hi or that guy from Columbine and stuff)

 

Now out of 15 million people. and even more if you count in Halo , Doom, Half Life and other shooters.. as well as Resident Evil, Devil May Cry and what not.. only a handful killed people and the rest is potentially dangerous now..?

 

What kind of logic is that.. ???

 

Now add all the people drinking alcohol and beating up people, committing crime or what ever and compare it to the people drinking alcohol....

Umm i doubt the ratio will be much lower... 

 

So why do gamers get all that blame and people drinking some beer or wine occasionally get.. what.. nothing...

 

where is the logic in this world... god.. 

too_much_eslim

Childish logic. Columbine incident was more than enough to censor gaming. When will you gamers talk the responsiblity? That's right majority of you all or at a stage called "self identity vs. the world"

That had influence from the movie matrix

even the suicide note mention DOOM...

okay.. that guy playing a game like counterstrike means as much as that guy drinking a beer occasionally or watching a violent movie from time to times... 

Its not like other activities people do can promote anger and violence.. Its just that most of the people learn the ability to endure their anger and act adequately even if they are angry..

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="farnham"]

Seriously.. How much did GTA sell.. Like 15 Million... right..?

 

Now if you think about it.. About 10 to 20 people who played video games also did massacres.. (like Cho Sung Hi or that guy from Columbine and stuff)

 

Now out of 15 million people. and even more if you count in Halo , Doom, Half Life and other shooters.. as well as Resident Evil, Devil May Cry and what not.. only a handful killed people and the rest is potentially dangerous now..?

 

What kind of logic is that.. ???

 

Now add all the people drinking alcohol and beating up people, committing crime or what ever and compare it to the people drinking alcohol....

Umm i doubt the ratio will be much lower...

 

So why do gamers get all that blame and people drinking some beer or wine occasionally get.. what.. nothing...

 

where is the logic in this world... god..

shungokustasu

Childish logic. Columbine incident was more than enough to censor gaming. When will you gamers talk the responsiblity? That's right majority of you all or at a stage called "self identity vs. the world"

That had influence from the movie matrix

even the suicide note mention DOOM...

So Doom kills people?  If so I should've been dead 12 years ago. 

[QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="farnham"]

Seriously.. How much did GTA sell.. Like 15 Million... right..?

 

Now if you think about it.. About 10 to 20 people who played video games also did massacres.. (like Cho Sung Hi or that guy from Columbine and stuff)

 

Now out of 15 million people. and even more if you count in Halo , Doom, Half Life and other shooters.. as well as Resident Evil, Devil May Cry and what not.. only a handful killed people and the rest is potentially dangerous now..?

 

What kind of logic is that.. ???

 

Now add all the people drinking alcohol and beating up people, committing crime or what ever and compare it to the people drinking alcohol....

Umm i doubt the ratio will be much lower...

 

So why do gamers get all that blame and people drinking some beer or wine occasionally get.. what.. nothing...

 

where is the logic in this world... god..

D0013ER

Childish logic. Columbine incident was more than enough to censor gaming. When will you gamers talk the responsiblity? That's right majority of you all or at a stage called "self identity vs. the world"

That had influence from the movie matrix

even the suicide note mention DOOM...

So Doom kills people? If so I should've been dead 12 years ago.

how many people played doom.. i bet millions did.. wow.. Doom officially killed more people then Hitler :lol: 

[QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="farnham"]

Seriously.. How much did GTA sell.. Like 15 Million... right..?

 

Now if you think about it.. About 10 to 20 people who played video games also did massacres.. (like Cho Sung Hi or that guy from Columbine and stuff)

 

Now out of 15 million people. and even more if you count in Halo , Doom, Half Life and other shooters.. as well as Resident Evil, Devil May Cry and what not.. only a handful killed people and the rest is potentially dangerous now..?

 

What kind of logic is that.. ???

 

Now add all the people drinking alcohol and beating up people, committing crime or what ever and compare it to the people drinking alcohol....

Umm i doubt the ratio will be much lower...

 

So why do gamers get all that blame and people drinking some beer or wine occasionally get.. what.. nothing...

 

where is the logic in this world... god..

D0013ER

Childish logic. Columbine incident was more than enough to censor gaming. When will you gamers talk the responsiblity? That's right majority of you all or at a stage called "self identity vs. the world"

That had influence from the movie matrix

even the suicide note mention DOOM...

So Doom kills people?  If so I should've been dead 12 years ago. 

Like snakes telling a bird how to fly...

Like snakes telling a bird how to fly...

shungokustasu

How about "the pot calling the kettle black"? You're a gamer too, right? Feel like taking responsibility for what a bunch of crazy A-holes do?

[QUOTE="D0013ER"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="farnham"]

Seriously.. How much did GTA sell.. Like 15 Million... right..?

 

Now if you think about it.. About 10 to 20 people who played video games also did massacres.. (like Cho Sung Hi or that guy from Columbine and stuff)

 

Now out of 15 million people. and even more if you count in Halo , Doom, Half Life and other shooters.. as well as Resident Evil, Devil May Cry and what not.. only a handful killed people and the rest is potentially dangerous now..?

 

What kind of logic is that.. ???

 

Now add all the people drinking alcohol and beating up people, committing crime or what ever and compare it to the people drinking alcohol....

Umm i doubt the ratio will be much lower...

 

So why do gamers get all that blame and people drinking some beer or wine occasionally get.. what.. nothing...

 

where is the logic in this world... god..

TheTrystero024

Childish logic. Columbine incident was more than enough to censor gaming. When will you gamers talk the responsiblity? That's right majority of you all or at a stage called "self identity vs. the world"

That had influence from the movie matrix

even the suicide note mention DOOM...

So Doom kills people? If so I should've been dead 12 years ago.

any individual who commits mass murder needs conseling. No sane person wakes up one day and says "Hmmm, my life needs a new change of pace. How bout i go shoot up my high school."

politicians make it seem that everyone who plays violent games and listens to heavy metal is a dangerous person. I listen to death metal, and i love playing FPS's. Does this make me a threat to society?...

In the eyes of right wing conservatives....IT DOES.

[QUOTE="shungokustasu"]

Like snakes telling a bird how to fly...

D0013ER

How about "the pot calling the kettle black"? You're a gamer too, right? Feel like taking responsibility for what a bunch of crazy A-holes do?

YES!!! I am. I'm the one blaming video games.

some fugly terrorist named Osama bin laden is muslim = every muslim is dangerous and evil??

well, Fox news thinks so...

i dont listen to the news anymore; Fox gives more opinionated comments about the morality of others than facts.....and they cant even get their facts straight...

the other new program are almost just as bad

i call it yellow media....like the kind of agenda-based news that was spread during the spanish-american war...

oh, well...what can you do; their ratings are high :(

Videogames are a scapegoat.  End of story.jim_shorts

Exactly.

[QUOTE="D0013ER"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"]

Like snakes telling a bird how to fly...

shungokustasu

How about "the pot calling the kettle black"? You're a gamer too, right? Feel like taking responsibility for what a bunch of crazy A-holes do?

YES!!! I am. I'm the one blaming video games.

You might want to box up your PS3 and take it back, then, because I can just about guarantee you there won't be $600 worth of E-rated games for the system. 

[QUOTE="TheTrystero024"][QUOTE="D0013ER"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="farnham"]

Seriously.. How much did GTA sell.. Like 15 Million... right..?

 

Now if you think about it.. About 10 to 20 people who played video games also did massacres.. (like Cho Sung Hi or that guy from Columbine and stuff)

 

Now out of 15 million people. and even more if you count in Halo , Doom, Half Life and other shooters.. as well as Resident Evil, Devil May Cry and what not.. only a handful killed people and the rest is potentially dangerous now..?

 

What kind of logic is that.. ???

 

Now add all the people drinking alcohol and beating up people, committing crime or what ever and compare it to the people drinking alcohol....

Umm i doubt the ratio will be much lower...

 

So why do gamers get all that blame and people drinking some beer or wine occasionally get.. what.. nothing...

 

where is the logic in this world... god..

ragek1ll589

Childish logic. Columbine incident was more than enough to censor gaming. When will you gamers talk the responsiblity? That's right majority of you all or at a stage called "self identity vs. the world"

That had influence from the movie matrix

even the suicide note mention DOOM...

So Doom kills people? If so I should've been dead 12 years ago.

any individual who commits mass murder needs conseling. No sane person wakes up one day and says "Hmmm, my life needs a new change of pace. How bout i go shoot up my high school."

politicians make it seem that everyone who plays violent games and listens to heavy metal is a dangerous person. I listen to death metal, and i love playing FPS's. Does this make me a threat to society?...

In the eyes of right wing conservatives....IT DOES.

some fugly terrorist named Osama bin laden is muslim = every muslim is dangerous and evil??

well, Fox news thinks so...

i dont listen to the news anymore; Fox gives more opinionated comments about the morality of others than facts.....and they cant even get their facts straight...

the other new program are almost just as bad

i call it yellow media....like the kind of agenda-based news that was spread during the spanish-american war...

oh, well...what can you do; their ratings are high :(

anasbouzid

Fox News isn't real news.

[QUOTE="anasbouzid"]

some fugly terrorist named Osama bin laden is muslim = every muslim is dangerous and evil??

well, Fox news thinks so...

i dont listen to the news anymore; Fox gives more opinionated comments about the morality of others than facts.....and they cant even get their facts straight...

the other new program are almost just as bad

i call it yellow media....like the kind of agenda-based news that was spread during the spanish-american war...

oh, well...what can you do; their ratings are high :(

Vyse_The_Daring

Fox News isn't real news.

Why not?

Let me also state that it seems every hater of Fox News just tends to dislike it by word of mouth, not actually watching it.  

[QUOTE="D0013ER"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"]

Like snakes telling a bird how to fly...

shungokustasu

How about "the pot calling the kettle black"? You're a gamer too, right? Feel like taking responsibility for what a bunch of crazy A-holes do?

YES!!! I am. I'm the one blaming video games.

[QUOTE="Vyse_The_Daring"][QUOTE="anasbouzid"]

some fugly terrorist named Osama bin laden is muslim = every muslim is dangerous and evil??

well, Fox news thinks so...

i dont listen to the news anymore; Fox gives more opinionated comments about the morality of others than facts.....and they cant even get their facts straight...

the other new program are almost just as bad

i call it yellow media....like the kind of agenda-based news that was spread during the spanish-american war...

oh, well...what can you do; their ratings are high :(

Redmoonxl2

Fox News isn't real news.

Why not?

Let me also state that it seems every hater of Fox News just tends to dislike it by word of mouth, not actually watching it.

Fox News is laughable. It's so obviously right-wing biased and many of the anchors are ridiculous. Examples of idiocy since you don't need examples to know how biased Fox News is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkMI5t6WVMs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6itFQ1qYA0&eurl=http%3A 

[QUOTE="Vyse_The_Daring"][QUOTE="anasbouzid"]

some fugly terrorist named Osama bin laden is muslim = every muslim is dangerous and evil??

well, Fox news thinks so...

i dont listen to the news anymore; Fox gives more opinionated comments about the morality of others than facts.....and they cant even get their facts straight...

the other new program are almost just as bad

i call it yellow media....like the kind of agenda-based news that was spread during the spanish-american war...

oh, well...what can you do; their ratings are high :(

Redmoonxl2

Fox News isn't real news.

Why not?

Let me also state that it seems every hater of Fox News just tends to dislike it by word of mouth, not actually watching it.  

[QUOTE="Vyse_The_Daring"][QUOTE="anasbouzid"]

some fugly terrorist named Osama bin laden is muslim = every muslim is dangerous and evil??

well, Fox news thinks so...

i dont listen to the news anymore; Fox gives more opinionated comments about the morality of others than facts.....and they cant even get their facts straight...

the other new program are almost just as bad

i call it yellow media....like the kind of agenda-based news that was spread during the spanish-american war...

oh, well...what can you do; their ratings are high :(

Redmoonxl2

Fox News isn't real news.

Why not?

Let me also state that it seems every hater of Fox News just tends to dislike it by word of mouth, not actually watching it.  

 I watch fox news, but only Bill O'reilly and Red Eye mainly because they're people that you love to hate,

So I wait for them to say something that pisses me off.

Video games don't take over peoples minds. Noone who is sane will play GTA and try to re-enact it by shooting up their school. You have to be naturaly insane and you have to have a motive. Noone would kill someone just because they saw it in a video game. Something has to have happend in your life to push you over the edge.jmorey01

Seriously.. How much did GTA sell.. Like 15 Million... right..?

 

Now if you think about it.. About 10 to 20 people who played video games also did massacres.. (like Cho Sung Hi or that guy from Columbine and stuff)

 

Now out of 15 million people. and even more if you count in Halo , Doom, Half Life and other shooters.. as well as Resident Evil, Devil May Cry and what not.. only a handful killed people and the rest is potentially dangerous now..?

 

What kind of logic is that.. ???

 

Now add all the people drinking alcohol and beating up people, committing crime or what ever and compare it to the people drinking alcohol....

Umm i doubt the ratio will be much lower...

 

So why do gamers get all that blame and people drinking some beer or wine occasionally get.. what.. nothing...

 

where is the logic in this world... god..

farnham

Its already been confirmed that he was not a gamer.  He downloaded music a lot and chat on forums a lot. 

Fox News is laughable. It's so obviously right-wing biased and many of the anchors are ridiculous. Examples of idiocy since you don't need examples to know how biased Fox News is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkMI5t6WVMs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6itFQ1qYA0&eurl=http%3A

Skippyj9

So posting clips that last several seconds proves what again? Anyone can take certain shows in bits and pieces and blow it out of proportion.

Also, what makes you think that left wing bias is not as troublesome and apparent in other media venues?

Look, I'm not going to ignore the fact that Fox News is more conservative than venues like CNN and NBC but to discount them because of their views? That ignorance at best and is what's causing division in America. Instead of taking both sides, you want to rely on one view of one party and preach it as truth. That's as bad as the extreme right wingers believing everything the republican party says.

Oh, and by the way: I'm a republican. 

actually he was mentally disturbed and was declared so by the virginia court system in 2005. his writing for his english major classes were also disturbing and were sent to an advisor and the college president. he was not a gamer. he was on antidepressants. unfortunately one of the biggest side effects of antidepressants is suicide.

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[QUOTE="Redmoonxl2"][QUOTE="Vyse_The_Daring"][QUOTE="anasbouzid"]

some fugly terrorist named Osama bin laden is muslim = every muslim is dangerous and evil??

well, Fox news thinks so...

i dont listen to the news anymore; Fox gives more opinionated comments about the morality of others than facts.....and they cant even get their facts straight...

the other new program are almost just as bad

i call it yellow media....like the kind of agenda-based news that was spread during the spanish-american war...

oh, well...what can you do; their ratings are high :(

Ace_WondersX

Fox News isn't real news.

Why not?

Let me also state that it seems every hater of Fox News just tends to dislike it by word of mouth, not actually watching it.  

 I watch fox news, but only Bill O'reilly and Red Eye mainly because they're people that you love to hate,

So I wait for them to say something that pisses me off.

So video games cause people to become killers? Really? So all the mass murders around the world all throughout history were caused by video games? What about the Crusades? Ted Bundy? Charles Manson? Ted "the Unibomber" Kazinsky? John Wayne Gacey? Or my personal favorite..... Jack the Ripper, I'll bet he was playing some cool video games back in the 19th century.

Video games are nothing more than a scapegoat. Just like Heavy Metal was back in the 80's. How many movies have been named in wrongful death suits? Hundreds. Nobody wants to take any personal responsibility for their actions. As others have pointed out, there are millions of gamers all over the world, there have been for over 20 years. If video games are the sole reason for murder, why have'nt we entered the apocalypse???

First off the main error here is the fact that USA allows guns as legal weapons, which is pure nonesense none other than the military should have weapons... haris12121212

I completely disagree. As I stated in another thread, a homicidial person would still be homicidial even without the presense of guns. This kid planned this attack out to begin with (Evidence being him sending out tapes/letters/audio to NBC). Without guns, he would have just turned to another tool, such as a home made bomb, knives, rope, car, whatever.

One man's use of a gun should never be considered the norm among gun owners. It's a right given to citizens of the US as a precaution measure in case the government turns into a fascist state and it's also a tool for those wanting to protect their family from criminals. While the VTech shooter bought his gun legally, most guns used by criminals are illegally obtained. Taking away guns from law biting citizens only leaves them open to an assault from an armed criminal.

[QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="D0013ER"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"]

Like snakes telling a bird how to fly...

D0013ER

How about "the pot calling the kettle black"? You're a gamer too, right? Feel like taking responsibility for what a bunch of crazy A-holes do?

YES!!! I am. I'm the one blaming video games.

You might want to box up your PS3 and take it back, then, because I can just about guarantee you there won't be $600 worth of E-rated games for the system.

Not saying that it M rated games should be banned from playing. Just regulate a bit. Is a chainsaw in GeoW really necessary? Is blowing a cow head of in RE4 really important to the game? No, let's clean up gaming a bit.