Something I noticed about Fallout New Vegas that I noticed with Fallout 3.

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#1 XboximusPrime
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I was watching videos of Fallout New Vegas, and I must say im quite excited for the game. I loved Fallout 3, adn this looks liek more of that. But one thing I noticed during the live stage demos and how they are handling the showing of their game thats very similar to how they showed Fallout 3 back in the day. Its all ON 360. I have seen NO PS3 footage of this game, which is the same thing that happened with Fallout 3.

*sniff* *sniff* smell that folks? Smells like another shoddy PS3 port for Fallout. Just like Fallout 3. It may seem that Bethesdas Engine only works well on PS3 if you give it a extra year of dev time.

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PS3 version of Fallout 3 had it's problems, but it wasn't all that bad. I wouldn't be worried if I was a PS3 only gamer, considering I found Fallout 3 on PS3 to be great.
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good thing I have an xbox then :D
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PS3 version of Fallout 3 had it's problems, but it wasn't all that bad. I wouldn't be worried if I was a PS3 only gamer, considering I found Fallout 3 on PS3 to be great.Stevo_the_gamer

I own both consoles, so if its really bad on PS3, ill get it on 360. Im jsut sick and tired of these piece of **** ports from people that obviously dont care.

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I smell insignificant differences being blown out of proportion. Honestly this place is pretty much just Yahtzee doppelgangers, just less amusing and with a PG rating...
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I smell insignificant differences being blown out of proportion. Honestly this place is pretty much just Yahtzee doppelgangers, just less amusing and with a PG rating...designer-

PS3 version of Fallout 3 was a god awful mess with bugs, while 360 was tolerable with its bugs. And bethesda still hasnt fixed all the problems with Fallout 3 on PS3.

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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]PS3 version of Fallout 3 had it's problems, but it wasn't all that bad. I wouldn't be worried if I was a PS3 only gamer, considering I found Fallout 3 on PS3 to be great.XboximusPrime

I own both consoles, so if its really bad on PS3, ill get it on 360. Im jsut sick and tired of these piece of **** ports from people that obviously dont care.

Only horrible devs do horrible ports. There have been cases were the PS3 version of the game is so close to the 360, it's not even mentionable. If some developers can do it right, so can't any other.

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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]PS3 version of Fallout 3 had it's problems, but it wasn't all that bad. I wouldn't be worried if I was a PS3 only gamer, considering I found Fallout 3 on PS3 to be great.XboximusPrime

I own both consoles, so if its really bad on PS3, ill get it on 360. Im jsut sick and tired of these piece of **** ports from people that obviously dont care.

I wouldn't get any console version to be quite honest, best played on PC for sure. The Xbox 360 version will more than likely be superior though, but I doubt it'll be huge differences.
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I'll be getting it for the PC anyway, so this doesn't bother me, but as someone who played both the 360 and PS3 versions of the original, I can say that the main game itself was fine, but the DLC's were borderline unplayable at times on the PS3 version.

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#10 XboximusPrime
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[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]PS3 version of Fallout 3 had it's problems, but it wasn't all that bad. I wouldn't be worried if I was a PS3 only gamer, considering I found Fallout 3 on PS3 to be great.Stevo_the_gamer

I own both consoles, so if its really bad on PS3, ill get it on 360. Im jsut sick and tired of these piece of **** ports from people that obviously dont care.

I wouldn't get any console version to be quite honest, best played on PC for sure. The Xbox 360 version will more than likely be superior though, but I doubt it'll be huge differences.

But the fact that were assuming its automaticaly better on 360 then PS3 is a major Red flag for the PS3 I think when it comes to multiplatform games.

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And yes, I fully realize that stuios like EA are doing this right by leading on PS3 all the time, but honestly, this is only one major studio. It is a big one, but it is not enough. And people are coming around to this philosphy of developing at too slow of a pace for it to really matter.

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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

I own both consoles, so if its really bad on PS3, ill get it on 360. Im jsut sick and tired of these piece of **** ports from people that obviously dont care.

XboximusPrime

I wouldn't get any console version to be quite honest, best played on PC for sure. The Xbox 360 version will more than likely be superior though, but I doubt it'll be huge differences.

But the fact that were assuming its automaticaly better on 360 then PS3 is a major Red flag for the PS3 I think when it comes to multiplatform games.

Alot of Ubisoft and EA games were payed on PS3 when they showed them. All going to be better on PS3 also?
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#13 XboximusPrime
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[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]I wouldn't get any console version to be quite honest, best played on PC for sure. The Xbox 360 version will more than likely be superior though, but I doubt it'll be huge differences.aaronmullan

But the fact that were assuming its automaticaly better on 360 then PS3 is a major Red flag for the PS3 I think when it comes to multiplatform games.

Alot of Ubisoft and EA games were payed on PS3 when they showed them. All going to be better on PS3 also?

well, lets see. Assassins Creed 2 was shown on PS3 and was mainly tied to PS3 because it was shown at their conference and what not last year. So naturally that version would be atleast the exact same right? Wrong, AC 2 on PS3 was quite a bit worse then teh 360 version. This goes as far as framerate, Screentearing, graphics. All that stuff. So really, I dont think that gurantees thatll be teh best version or that itll even be the same. adn even if those games truely end up the same and Ubi and EA start leading on PS3. Those are only 2 companys. I know their large companys, but theres alot more devs out their besides them. Also, even if EA and Ubi start doing leading on PS3, that dosent gurantee theyll do it all the time and that if they do lead on it thatll itll end up the same on PS3.

Hoenstly, I dont even care if they game looks better on PS3, I just want it to look exactly the same.

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[QUOTE="designer-"]I smell insignificant differences being blown out of proportion. Honestly this place is pretty much just Yahtzee doppelgangers, just less amusing and with a PG rating...XboximusPrime

PS3 version of Fallout 3 was a god awful mess with bugs, while 360 was tolerable with its bugs. And bethesda still hasnt fixed all the problems with Fallout 3 on PS3.

Uh it was patched. If you played it for any length of time you would know it plays just fine. The 360 version might be better but the ps3 version definitely isn't unplayable.

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[QUOTE="aaronmullan"][QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

But the fact that were assuming its automaticaly better on 360 then PS3 is a major Red flag for the PS3 I think when it comes to multiplatform games.

XboximusPrime

Alot of Ubisoft and EA games were payed on PS3 when they showed them. All going to be better on PS3 also?

well, lets see. Assassins Creed 2 was shown on PS3 and was mainly tied to PS3 because it was shown at their conference and what not last year. So naturally that version would be atleast the exact same right? Wrong, AC 2 on PS3 was quite a bit worse then teh 360 version. This goes as far as framerate, Screentearing, graphics. All that stuff. So really, I dont think that gurantees thatll be teh best version or that itll even be the same.

But with your logic all those games will be superior on the PS3. I didn't make the logic up, guy.
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[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

[QUOTE="aaronmullan"] Alot of Ubisoft and EA games were payed on PS3 when they showed them. All going to be better on PS3 also?aaronmullan

well, lets see. Assassins Creed 2 was shown on PS3 and was mainly tied to PS3 because it was shown at their conference and what not last year. So naturally that version would be atleast the exact same right? Wrong, AC 2 on PS3 was quite a bit worse then teh 360 version. This goes as far as framerate, Screentearing, graphics. All that stuff. So really, I dont think that gurantees thatll be teh best version or that itll even be the same.

But with your logic all those games will be superior on the PS3. I didn't make the logic up, guy.

i dont think I ever said they should look BETTER, I said they should look the same.

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[QUOTE="aaronmullan"][QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

well, lets see. Assassins Creed 2 was shown on PS3 and was mainly tied to PS3 because it was shown at their conference and what not last year. So naturally that version would be atleast the exact same right? Wrong, AC 2 on PS3 was quite a bit worse then teh 360 version. This goes as far as framerate, Screentearing, graphics. All that stuff. So really, I dont think that gurantees thatll be teh best version or that itll even be the same.

XboximusPrime

But with your logic all those games will be superior on the PS3. I didn't make the logic up, guy.

i dont think I ever said they should look BETTER, I said they should look the same.

Alright, cool. So they'll be shoddy ports on the 360?
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[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

[QUOTE="aaronmullan"] But with your logic all those games will be superior on the PS3. I didn't make the logic up, guy.aaronmullan

i dont think I ever said they should look BETTER, I said they should look the same.

Alright, cool. So they'll be shoddy ports on the 360?

Leading on PS3 and going to 360 is not the same things as leading on 360 and going to PS3. If you do it the former, then you usually end with a truely equal product because the 360 can handle the code just fine. If you do the later, then you usually end with a bad PS3 port because 360 code dosent transfer well to PS3. It has to do with the 360s archetecture and what not. This is actually a proven fact.

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it wil be a shoddy port but not because of bethesda, because it osbidian does not care about graphics, so they will just throw the game as it is and not try to make it better visually.
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[QUOTE="aaronmullan"][QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

i dont think I ever said they should look BETTER, I said they should look the same.

XboximusPrime

Alright, cool. So they'll be shoddy ports on the 360?

Leading on PS3 and going to 360 is not the same things as leading on 360 and going to PS3. If you do it the former, then you usually end with a truely equal product because the 360 can handle the code just fine. If you do the later, then you usually end with a bad PS3 port because 360 code dosent transfer well to PS3. It has to do with the 360s archetecture and what not. This is actually a proven fact.

Yeah, it's proven that developers that don't know the PS3 architecture that well don't do too good on it.

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it wil be a shoddy port but not because of bethesda, because it osbidian does not care about graphics, so they will just throw the game as it is and not try to make it better visually.dakan45

Bethesda **** up on Fallout 3 on PS3, and they made the engine Obsidian is using, so yes, theyre partly to blame.

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Sure, if I palyed the games on PS3, I probaly wouldnt notice them being better on 360 because I dont have in front of me.

But then that means I just have my head in the sand saying LA LA LA I cant hear you better 360 version LA LA LA. Im in denial that theres a better version out there, and honestly, wouldnt I be stupid for not wanting to play the better version if I have the option?

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what's so strange is that you would think that after being able to make a great port of oblivion that it would have made the job on fallout easier.

i am without a doubt getting the 360 version butmy guess is there will be very little differece between the two.

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#25 XboximusPrime
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[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

[QUOTE="aaronmullan"] Alright, cool. So they'll be shoddy ports on the 360?aaronmullan

Leading on PS3 and going to 360 is not the same things as leading on 360 and going to PS3. If you do it the former, then you usually end with a truely equal product because the 360 can handle the code just fine. If you do the later, then you usually end with a bad PS3 port because 360 code dosent transfer well to PS3. It has to do with the 360s archetecture and what not. This is actually a proven fact.

Yeah, it's proven that developers that don't know the PS3 architecture that well don't do too good on it.

and thats a large majority of Multiplatform devs, so PS3 is kinda screwed in that department.

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[QUOTE="dakan45"]it wil be a shoddy port but not because of bethesda, because it osbidian does not care about graphics, so they will just throw the game as it is and not try to make it better visually.XboximusPrime

Bethesda **** up on Fallout 3 on PS3, and they made the engine Obsidian is using, so yes, theyre partly to blame.

The fact that vegas will not look better on ps3 is bethesda's fault? How? Osbidian is the one who has to learn making graphics.
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[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

[QUOTE="dakan45"]it wil be a shoddy port but not because of bethesda, because it osbidian does not care about graphics, so they will just throw the game as it is and not try to make it better visually.dakan45

Bethesda **** up on Fallout 3 on PS3, and they made the engine Obsidian is using, so yes, theyre partly to blame.

The fact that vegas will not look better on ps3 is bethesda's fault? How? Osbidian is the one who has to learn making graphics.

I dont want it to look better, I want it to look the same as the 360 version. also, I think Bethesda engine was more designed for 360 then PS3 considering Oblivion was a launch game on 360, adn that engine was tailored to that syestem pretty much. And since Obsidian is using that same engine, its probaly not going to be good on PS3 again.

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Thats what i am saying, it wil not look better because osbidian will not even bother to try. Neither the x360 version will look better from fallout 3. You will get the same standards because osbidian is not goona touch the graphics. But if you care about graphics so much, why dont you get a pc, fallout 3 is not demanding and you can get much better visuals than the consoles.
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I mean, wouldnt it be stupid of me not to get the best looking version if I have the option? Again, kinda like a head in the sand kind of thing?

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i played it on Ps3 and i didnt think it was toooo bad.

i think ill buy vegas on 360 though if the Ps3 port turns out to be poop again.

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[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

[QUOTE="designer-"]I smell insignificant differences being blown out of proportion. Honestly this place is pretty much just Yahtzee doppelgangers, just less amusing and with a PG rating...NoobisMaxcimus

PS3 version of Fallout 3 was a god awful mess with bugs, while 360 was tolerable with its bugs. And bethesda still hasnt fixed all the problems with Fallout 3 on PS3.

Uh it was patched. If you played it for any length of time you would know it plays just fine. The 360 version might be better but the ps3 version definitely isn't unplayable.

This. I've played both versions and while the 360 version is superior the ps3 version is not some unplayable monster its perfectly playable as a obsidian, bethesda game can be...
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#33 Sully28
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I played it on PC first, and i was able to get fallout 3 new on ps3 for 20 bucks after they patched it and it ran fine. It looked a little worse then it did on PC and the framerate was fine. From my understanding it was a shoddy port before it was patched, because i saw no problem when i played it.