Somethingythat, undisputably, consoles have over pcs

Um, I have a LAN (LOCAL area network) setup with my brother who is in the room next to me...

games do have splitscreens as well on pc, and there is such a thing as hotseat too.Wahoo2k

There are splitscreen PC games? o_o 

[QUOTE="Wahoo2k"]games do have splitscreens as well on pc, and there is such a thing as hotseat too.T005dragon

There are splitscreen PC games? o_o 

 Serious Sam is one of them.

Better games.shungokustasu

Run, Hermits are coming!

Better games.shungokustasu

...Is he serious?Bluestorm-Kalas

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Here's the main advantage that consoles have over PCs:  One unified spec list.  The problem with PCs is that as new graphics cards and CPUs come out every 3 months or so, older set-ups become obsolete.  Take a game like Oblivion, for instance.  Unless you have a 7600 (at minimum), you can't even run this game decently, whereas with a 360, since there's only one single spec list to develop for, developers can get the max out of a system without having to spend their time allowing players to change the settings.  Other than resolution, of course.

I'm sorry if this post reads somewhat badly.  I can't write good, flowing posts at the crack of dawn.

[QUOTE="shungokustasu"]Better games.Vyse_The_Daring

Run, Hermits are coming!

Hermits, are just smart 360 fans. I can handle them with ease. Console does have the better games. Just ask the PC developers. 

Um, I have a LAN (LOCAL area network) setup with my brother who is in the room next to me...

 

Peter_Darkstar

[QUOTE="Vyse_The_Daring"]

[QUOTE="shungokustasu"]Better games.shungokustasu

Run, Hermits are coming!

Hermits, are just smart 360 fans. I can handle them with ease. Console does have the better games. Just ask the PC developers.

Apparently you can't handle grammar with ease. 

[QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="Vyse_The_Daring"]

[QUOTE="shungokustasu"]Better games.spinecaton

Run, Hermits are coming!

Hermits, are just smart 360 fans. I can handle them with ease. Console does have the better games. Just ask the PC developers.

Apparently, you can't handle grammar with ease.

okay? 

Console does have the better games. 

shungokustasu

Is this why the PC has more AA/AAA games than any other platform (including the ps2) 

Here's the main advantage that consoles have over PCs:  One unified spec list.  The problem with PCs is that as new graphics cards and CPUs come out every 3 months or so, older set-ups become obsolete.  Take a game like Oblivion, for instance.  Unless you have a 7600 (at minimum), you can't even run this game decently, whereas with a 360, since there's only one single spec list to develop for, developers can get the max out of a system without having to spend their time allowing players to change the settings.  Other than resolution, of course.

 

I'm sorry if this post reads somewhat badly.  I can't write good, flowing posts at the crack of dawn.

a_ratchet_fan

I was playing oblivion for over seven months on a 5200.

Oldblivion never underestimate the power of pc gamers ability to adapt and persiver.

and that 5200 lasted me almost five years, hardware does have staying power.

[QUOTE="shungokustasu"]

Console does have the better games.

MTBare

Is this why the PC has more AA/AAA games than any other platform (including the ps2)

Well yeah, but that is because PC platform has been around for a long time. Jazz Jackrabbit is still a PC game yet that thing is like 13 years old! PC might have overall more AA/AAA games then PS2 and other systems, but you have to remember that system have life cycles that require a brand new system to update unlike PC. I'm not sure if that made sense but yes. 

[QUOTE="shungokustasu"]

Console does have the better games.

MTBare

Is this why the PC has more AA/AAA games than any other platform (including the ps2)

Unlike you, I don't let Gamespot tell me what's a great game. Console software sales > PC gaming sales. Since 1985. That's a fact. Not some opinionated score. I really want to see how you going to spin this.

[QUOTE="MTBare"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"]

Console does have the better games.

spinecaton

Is this why the PC has more AA/AAA games than any other platform (including the ps2)

Well yeah, but that is because PC platform has been around for a long time. Jazz Jackrabbit is still a PC game yet that thing is like 13 years old! PC might have overall more AA/AAA games then PS2 and other systems, but you have to remember that system have life cycles that require a brand new system to update unlike PC. I'm not sure if that made sense but yes. 

Even taking into consideration the consoles lifespans, the PC leaves them in the dust, 3 triple As this year already, and countless AAs.

[QUOTE="MTBare"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"]

Console does have the better games.

spinecaton

Is this why the PC has more AA/AAA games than any other platform (including the ps2)

Well yeah, but that is because PC platform has been around for a long time. Jazz Jackrabbit is still a PC game yet that thing is like 13 years old! PC might have overall more AA/AAA games then PS2 and other systems, but you have to remember that system have life cycles that require a brand new system to update unlike PC. I'm not sure if that made sense but yes.

Bah, why'd you have to ruin my fun, I knew that but I just wanted to get the fanboys going. Funny you mentioned "systems have life cycles that require a brand new system to update", because normally the console fanboys are whining to the hermits about updating a PC "every 6 months".

[QUOTE="MTBare"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"]

Console does have the better games.

shungokustasu

Is this why the PC has more AA/AAA games than any other platform (including the ps2)

Unlike you, I don't let Gamespot tell me what's a great game. Console software sales > PC gaming sales. Since 1985. That's a fact. Not some opinionated score. I really want to see how you going to spin this.

With games like the sims that are on practically every computer?

Yous gots a crazy things on your shoulders mister.

[QUOTE="MTBare"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"]

Console does have the better games.

shungokustasu

Is this why the PC has more AA/AAA games than any other platform (including the ps2)

Unlike you, I don't let Gamespot tell me what's a great game. Console software sales > PC gaming sales. Since 1985. That's a fact. Not some opinionated score. I really want to see how you going to spin this.

Well we're on gamespot so that's the only way to keep consistency, but I can play by your rules. LOLOL OMG ALL THE CONSOLE GAMES SUCK IVE PLAYED THEM ALL AND ALL PC GAMES RULEZZZZ I DON'T LET ANYONE CHANGE MY OPINION!1!!! 

Durh of course they get more sales, but you have to take in consideration that consoles are much more popular than PC's and piracy is a nice big punch in the face for PC games. Originally you said "console does have the better games", then your "fact" is because they sell better. Well then I guess by your logic 50 cent bulletproof is one kickass game am I right? 

Fighting games

Racing games

Action platformers

Large screens (tvs can be huge)

comfortable controllers

easy to run and maintain

alot cheaper

the games work as long as the console does and you take care of both

there are no drivers, new os's, nor patches that destroy the ability to run a game (generally speaking) 

[QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="MTBare"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"]

Console does have the better games.

MTBare

Is this why the PC has more AA/AAA games than any other platform (including the ps2)

Unlike you, I don't let Gamespot tell me what's a great game. Console software sales > PC gaming sales. Since 1985. That's a fact. Not some opinionated score. I really want to see how you going to spin this.

Well we're on gamespot so that's the only way to keep consistency, but I can play by your rules. LOLOL OMG ALL THE CONSOLE GAMES SUCK IVE PLAYED THEM ALL AND ALL PC GAMES RULEZZZZ I DON'T LET ANYONE CHANGE MY OPINION!1!!!

Durh of course they get more sales, but you have to take in consideration that consoles are much more popular than PC's and piracy is a nice big punch in the face for PC games. Originally you said "console does have the better games", then your "fact" is because they sell better. Well then I guess by your logic 50 cent bulletproof is one kickass game am I right?

The "fact" is people prefer console games more than PC games, hence why they're more popular. Sales is the measurement for popularity. I actually voted for 50 cent to be GOTY, such an underrated game... 

Fighting games

Racing games

Action platformers

Large screens (tvs can be huge)

comfortable controllers

easy to run and maintain

alot cheaper

the games work as long as the console does and you take care of both 

there are no drivers, new os's, nor patches that destroy the ability to run a game (generally speaking)(this isnt a advantage)

NocturnalDemon

PC has

better first person shooters,Sims, MMO

free online

mods

TWEAKING ABILITIES(make games run at 100+fps which is very amazing, and YOU CAN tell the different.) 

ability to upgrade parts 

customization

ablity to build your own computer 

Overclocking(yes it is fun)

Here's the main advantage that consoles have over PCs:  One unified spec list.  The problem with PCs is that as new graphics cards and CPUs come out every 3 months or so, older set-ups become obsolete.  Take a game like Oblivion, for instance.  Unless you have a 7600 (at minimum), you can't even run this game decently, whereas with a 360, since there's only one single spec list to develop for, developers can get the max out of a system without having to spend their time allowing players to change the settings.  Other than resolution, of course.

 

I'm sorry if this post reads somewhat badly.  I can't write good, flowing posts at the crack of dawn.

a_ratchet_fan

yeah but the 7600 didn't come out 3 months ago did it :P

[QUOTE="MTBare"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="MTBare"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"]

Console does have the better games.

shungokustasu

Is this why the PC has more AA/AAA games than any other platform (including the ps2)

Unlike you, I don't let Gamespot tell me what's a great game. Console software sales > PC gaming sales. Since 1985. That's a fact. Not some opinionated score. I really want to see how you going to spin this.

Well we're on gamespot so that's the only way to keep consistency, but I can play by your rules. LOLOL OMG ALL THE CONSOLE GAMES SUCK IVE PLAYED THEM ALL AND ALL PC GAMES RULEZZZZ I DON'T LET ANYONE CHANGE MY OPINION!1!!!

Durh of course they get more sales, but you have to take in consideration that consoles are much more popular than PC's and piracy is a nice big punch in the face for PC games. Originally you said "console does have the better games", then your "fact" is because they sell better. Well then I guess by your logic 50 cent bulletproof is one kickass game am I right?

The "fact" is people prefer console games more than PC games, hence why they're more popular. Sales is the measurement for popularity. I actually voted for 50 cent to be GOTY, such an underrated game...

ROFL, why am I even trying to reason with you. 

[QUOTE="MTBare"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"]

Console does have the better games.

shungokustasu

Is this why the PC has more AA/AAA games than any other platform (including the ps2)

Unlike you, I don't let Gamespot tell me what's a great game. Console software sales > PC gaming sales. Since 1985. That's a fact. Not some opinionated score. I really want to see how you going to spin this.

The "fact" is people prefer console games more than PC games, hence why they're more popular. Sales is the measurement for popularity. I actually voted for 50 cent to be GOTY, such an underrated game...

shungokustasu

I hope there is suppose to be a /sarcasm in there somewhere 

No way! I can just disassemble my office desk and drag my bulky center console out along with its 34506 wires, speakers, and computer monitor. PC lan FTW!

No way! I can just disassemble my office desk and drag my bulky center console out along with its 34506 wires, speakers, and computer monitor. PC lan FTW!

 

Gamer556

People take their desks to a LAN party? Now that is something I've never heard of before... 

[QUOTE="shungokustasu"]

The "fact" is people prefer console games more than PC games, hence why they're more popular. Sales is the measurement for popularity. I actually voted for 50 cent to be GOTY, such an underrated game...

MTBare

ROFL, why am I even trying to reason with you.

If you going to compare A to B, personal opinions are invalid because each own is different. ex.

MTBare likes Apples

Shusty likes Oranges

Shusty is trying to convince MTBare that Oranges are the best fruit.
MTBare is trying to convince Shusty that Apples are the best fruit.

How can this dispute be resolved? 

[QUOTE="MTBare"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="MTBare"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"]

Console does have the better games.

shungokustasu

Is this why the PC has more AA/AAA games than any other platform (including the ps2)

Unlike you, I don't let Gamespot tell me what's a great game. Console software sales > PC gaming sales. Since 1985. That's a fact. Not some opinionated score. I really want to see how you going to spin this.

Well we're on gamespot so that's the only way to keep consistency, but I can play by your rules. LOLOL OMG ALL THE CONSOLE GAMES SUCK IVE PLAYED THEM ALL AND ALL PC GAMES RULEZZZZ I DON'T LET ANYONE CHANGE MY OPINION!1!!!

Durh of course they get more sales, but you have to take in consideration that consoles are much more popular than PC's and piracy is a nice big punch in the face for PC games. Originally you said "console does have the better games", then your "fact" is because they sell better. Well then I guess by your logic 50 cent bulletproof is one kickass game am I right?

The "fact" is people prefer console games more than PC games, hence why they're more popular. Sales is the measurement for popularity. I actually voted for 50 cent to be GOTY, such an underrated game...

PC gaming isn't about being mainstream and casual, that's one of its strengths in a sense that there is more depth to Pc gaming (in most cases).

[QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="MTBare"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"]

Console does have the better games.

rpg9000owner

Is this why the PC has more AA/AAA games than any other platform (including the ps2)

Unlike you, I don't let Gamespot tell me what's a great game. Console software sales > PC gaming sales. Since 1985. That's a fact. Not some opinionated score. I really want to see how you going to spin this.

Why I said 1985... 

[QUOTE="NocturnalDemon"]

Fighting games

Racing games

Action platformers

Large screens (tvs can be huge)

comfortable controllers

easy to run and maintain

alot cheaper

the games work as long as the console does and you take care of both

there are no drivers, new os's, nor patches that destroy the ability to run a game (generally speaking)(this isnt a advantage)

Samerzz

PC has

better first person shooters,Sims(you're joking right?), MMO

free online (PS3 and Wii have free online.  that's 2 systems out of 3)

mods (i've noticed fewer and fewer decent mods nowadays.  they're getting harder to make.  i really don't mess with mods much anymore because alot of them perminately mess up my games)

TWEAKING ABILITIES(make games run at 100+fps which is very amazing, and YOU CAN tell the different.) (the human eye can't see beyond 60 fps.  you're just wasting money after that)

ability to upgrade parts

customization

ablity to build your own computer (wouldn't that be under customization above?)

Overclocking(yes it is fun) (only for nerds.....                jk man :) )

Here's the main advantage that consoles have over PCs: One unified spec list. The problem with PCs is that as new graphics cards and CPUs come out every 3 months or so, older set-ups become obsolete. Take a game like Oblivion, for instance. Unless you have a 7600 (at minimum), you can't even run this game decently, whereas with a 360, since there's only one single spec list to develop for, developers can get the max out of a system without having to spend their time allowing players to change the settings. Other than resolution, of course.

I'm sorry if this post reads somewhat badly. I can't write good, flowing posts at the crack of dawn.

a_ratchet_fan

[QUOTE="rpg9000owner"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="MTBare"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"]

Console does have the better games.

shungokustasu

Is this why the PC has more AA/AAA games than any other platform (including the ps2)

Unlike you, I don't let Gamespot tell me what's a great game. Console software sales > PC gaming sales. Since 1985. That's a fact. Not some opinionated score. I really want to see how you going to spin this.

Why I said 1985...

EDIT: As gamers, (not sure about you) we care about gameplay. To base weather something is good or not on sales alone is foolish.

[QUOTE="MTBare"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"]

The "fact" is people prefer console games more than PC games, hence why they're more popular. Sales is the measurement for popularity. I actually voted for 50 cent to be GOTY, such an underrated game...

shungokustasu

ROFL, why am I even trying to reason with you.

If you going to compare A to B, personal opinions are invalid because each own is different. ex.

MTBare likes Apples

Shusty likes Oranges

Shusty is trying to convince MTBare that Oranges are the best fruit.
MTBare is trying to convince Shusty that Apples are the best fruit.

How can this dispute be resolved?

By getting a survey from a large group of people. Then you will get the average choice of what is overall better. On the majority of review sites 50 cent bullet proof scored poorly, thus making the average rating low. If the majority of the ratings are low, then the game cannot be considered underrated. However, if one site rates a game low while the other sites rate it high, then you can say X site rated the game low.

[QUOTE="Gamer556"]

No way! I can just disassemble my office desk and drag my bulky center console out along with its 34506 wires, speakers, and computer monitor. PC lan FTW!

 

spinecaton

People take their desks to a LAN party? Now that is something I've never heard of before... 

My computer is in my desk, and to get it out with all the wires I would have to partly disassemble the back of my desk (wierd desk, I know).

Desk aside, it's still a hassle. Until they start making 8 pound desktop PCs with two wires, they will never outdo consoles in local multiplayer.

For the record, I have only done one local multiplayer session on a PC in my life, and that was because the guy just happened to have 4 PCs in his house.