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#1  Edited By Zero_epyon
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It's a surprise to many, including Sony themselves, that the PS4 has been selling the way it is. But with a lack of first party support going into the holiday this year, it seems that the the PS4's momentum may slow down. Will Sony bring a few surprises that will keep it relevant for the rest of the year or are they going to fully rely on 3rd party until 2016?

The future of the PS4's momentum is at stake here. What does SW think?

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#2 Shewgenja
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Nah, Third party is going to be HAM this holidays.

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#3 bunchanumbers
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Nah. Sony's E3 conference could be nothing but Kaz gifs and remaster trailers and they would still sell great this holiday season. Its the target of the casuals now. Their victory is all but guaranteed.

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#4 me2002
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"Wii U's future will be determined this month."

"XBox, as a brand, on trial at E3 this year."

"Sony and the PS4 under the microscope this year's E3."

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#5 DrkeX
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They are showing VR/Morpheus this year.

Sony's sales will decrease if they lose E3 and M$ wins it.

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#6  Edited By Telekill
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I think the entire industry is under a microscope at all times. Gamers are a pretty fickle crowd.

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#7 RR360DD
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Yeah they are, the upcoming PS4 lineup is pathetic.

Pretty hilarious seeing cows defend this and fall back on third party multiplats

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#8  Edited By Shewgenja
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@RR360DD said:

Yeah they are, the upcoming PS4 lineup is pathetic.

Pretty hilarious seeing cows defend this and fall back on third party multiplats

Let's roll your posting history back and see what 2011 you would say to 2015 you. Anyways, lol at anyone thinking a console with 25million installed users in less than two years isn't going to be tightened up on exclusives.

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Ps4 is the best console and it got strong 3rd party support unlike the WiiU lol, and with few good exclusives here and there like Bloodborne, Uncharted, Until Dawn etc it is fine

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#10 Zero_epyon
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@RR360DD said:

Yeah they are, the upcoming PS4 lineup is pathetic.

Pretty hilarious seeing cows defend this and fall back on third party multiplats

Didn't lems do this for the last couple of years of for the 360 before Xbox One? MS has almost no exclusives but plenty of third party perks.

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#11 chikenfriedrice
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The PS4 is in good shape regardless....it sells like hotcakes for no reason.

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#12 Zero_epyon
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@chikenfriedrice said:

The PS4 is in good shape regardless....it sells like hotcakes for no reason.

Yeah but how long will that last without impressive first party games?

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#13 Skelly34
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@Zero_epyon said:
@chikenfriedrice said:

The PS4 is in good shape regardless....it sells like hotcakes for no reason.

Yeah but how long will that last without impressive first party games?

Til the end of the gen.

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@skelly34 said:
@Zero_epyon said:
@chikenfriedrice said:

The PS4 is in good shape regardless....it sells like hotcakes for no reason.

Yeah but how long will that last without impressive first party games?

Til the end of the gen.

Yeah I don't think they can get away with that. At least not in NA.

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I predict (and my predictions are highly accurate) that not one PS4 will be sold ever again after E3.

You can take that to the bank! (Just don't use Sonys bank).

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#16 Heil68
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It will continue to sell well and be carried with 3rd party support. Exclusives will come, we all know that. Uncharted4 is at the front and center,

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#17  Edited By QuadKnight
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PS4 will continue to sell like crack cocaine till the end of the gen regardless of what happens at E3.

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#18  Edited By T-razor1
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@chikenfriedrice said:

The PS4 is in good shape regardless....it sells like hotcakes for no reason.

Reminds me of a system Nintendo released back in '06. Lets hope it suffers the same fate and burns out. I honestly don't get the attraction to this plain jane boring a** system. At least with past playstation consoles such as the ps2 I could understand why it sold like hotcakes. Even more impressed with the ps3. But the ps4? Drive Club? The Order? Garbage system. Yeah I said it.

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#19  Edited By Shewgenja
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@T-razor1 said:
@chikenfriedrice said:

The PS4 is in good shape regardless....it sells like hotcakes for no reason.

Reminds me of a system Nintendo released back in '06. Lets hope it suffers the same fate and burns out. I honestly don't get the attraction to this plain jane boring a** system. At least with past playstation consoles such as the ps2 I could understand why it sold like hotcakes. Even more impressed with the ps3. But the ps4? Drive Club? The Order? Garbage system. Yeah I said it.

Compared to the other system that hasn't had a big budget exclusive in over half a year?

I mean, sure, hate on The Order all you want but that's kind of like saying not trying is better than taking a risk. Pretty lame, dude.

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#20 deactivated-58ce94803a170
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I think they will continue to let third party support their system. No need to waste big money when sales are looking great with what is available, might as well take it slow and enjoy the ride will it last, never know when its over for them, could be next gen.

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#21  Edited By jg4xchamp
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No one is really under anything, what reason does sony have to be under a microscope?

They are the market leader
They are the first party with the best relations with independent developers right now|
They are the first party with the best platform for third party multiplats on the console front
They are the platform with the best chance to get Japanese games and thus japanese exclusives
PS+ has more than validated itself as a service with just the games they give you considering everything else is at this point a wash with Xbox Live.

Yeah Sony's first party sucks and system is garbage if you are a PC gamer, but if you're a PC gamer the Xbox One sucks too, and the WiiU gets has maybe 5 or 6-8 at best games that were worth your time. In comparison to their direct competition they are killing it. In terms of the actual quality of their device? They could get way the **** better games/exclusives, but that just puts them on a similar boat as Microsoft. Their actual PS4 owning audience should be more than satisfied with the multiplats that the platform keeps getting.

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#22  Edited By T-razor1
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@Shewgenja said:
@T-razor1 said:
@chikenfriedrice said:

The PS4 is in good shape regardless....it sells like hotcakes for no reason.

Reminds me of a system Nintendo released back in '06. Lets hope it suffers the same fate and burns out. I honestly don't get the attraction to this plain jane boring a** system. At least with past playstation consoles such as the ps2 I could understand why it sold like hotcakes. Even more impressed with the ps3. But the ps4? Drive Club? The Order? Garbage system. Yeah I said it.

Compared to the other system that hasn't had a big budget exclusive in over half a year?

I mean, sure, hate on The Order all you want but that's kind of like saying not trying is better than taking a risk. Pretty lame, dude.

Okay lets keep it real bro...

Please look at yourself in the mirror and ask yourself what in God's name is so special about the ps4 right now? Are you really happy with the current selection of games?

Now I'm not saying the One is really shining either but we're talking about the ps4 that is selling like hotcakes.

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#23 Bigboi500
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Looks like we're gonna need an official E3 sticky soon.

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#25 Douevenlift_bro
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3RD party games will be bigger than anything else this holiday season. The PS4 will still continue to outsell the Bone all through

New CoD and Star Wars games etc... Yeah people should be worried that Halo 5 will definitely get overshadowed

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@Douevenlift_bro said:

3RD party games will be bigger than anything else this holiday season. The PS4 will still continue to outsell the Bone all through

New CoD and Star Wars games etc... Yeah people should be worried that Halo 5 will definitely get overshadowed

Would have been cool to get Uncharted 4 this year though.

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#27 Nengo_Flow
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Its not secret that SONY has slipped a bit this year and that the PS4 will weak sauce for the rest of the year.

M$ has a huge opportunity to take some large grounds this Q3 and Q4. I dont think the X1 will be taking over fully, but for the rest of the year they will be on top.

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#28  Edited By kinectthedots
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They are going to do what MS did last year and show a whole bunch of games that won't get released til the next year and they will have a great show.

Being under the microscope means nothing when companies can show anything without any liability to actually release or produce that product in order to generate hype/momentum for their system.

Xbox fans were hyped by Phantom Dust, Quantum Break, Scalebound and Crackdown at E3 2014...and...none of which will release til the NEXT year (2016) if at all. No one has even seen gameplay for half of them til this point. Zelda U was also supposed to be a thing...see how that goes?

Sony has more in production than MS and nintendo combined in order to put on a good show and weather or not it will actually release or be good doesn't matter for E3 purposes...sadly

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#29 dvalo9
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I'm fairness I don't get this " xbone has the best exclusive" argument. Name an exclusive of its type better than bloodborne. Better than second son?

Halo 5 is all I am excited about for Xbox one.

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#30  Edited By blackace
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@Shewgenja said:

Nah, Third party is going to be HAM this holidays.

Pretty much. I don't see PS4 sales slowing down that much. Definitely not overseas in Europe. Since they all seem to hate M$ over there. Might change a little after Win10 / DX12 launches though. We'll see.

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#31 dgkenji
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Nah, they are in good shape and don't have to do much. As long as they show a couple of games and don't go the full VR route they will be fine. I feel like MS is the one under the microscope they got to have an excellent E3 so they can shift the momentum back.

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#32 Douevenlift_bro
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@Zero_epyon said:
@Douevenlift_bro said:

3RD party games will be bigger than anything else this holiday season. The PS4 will still continue to outsell the Bone all through

New CoD and Star Wars games etc... Yeah people should be worried that Halo 5 will definitely get overshadowed

Would have been cool to get Uncharted 4 this year though.

ofcourse but with all the multiplats will it get the shine it deserves?

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#33  Edited By Lionheart08
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@Zero_epyon said:
@chikenfriedrice said:

The PS4 is in good shape regardless....it sells like hotcakes for no reason.

Yeah but how long will that last without impressive first party games?

Considering people have been asking this question over and over for 18 months now, it's kind of moot. It's like people who kept insisting the Wii was a fad that would blow over "any day now." I mean yeah it did, 4 years after the fact when Nintendo had already taken the money to the bank.

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@Zero_epyon said:
@chikenfriedrice said:

The PS4 is in good shape regardless....it sells like hotcakes for no reason.

Yeah but how long will that last without impressive first party games?

The PS brand has always delivered on the first party front and their consoles are always slow for the first year and a half.

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#35  Edited By RIZDRAVER
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Seeing how startlingly well the Destiny bundle did, the Star Wars bundle is going to absolutely go off at Christmas - much more than an Uncharted bundle IMO. Multiplats can move systems well if your marketing is on point; which Sony has proven over and over this gen.

The Batman bundle will easily help carry momentum through the summer.

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I wonder if they're using the Hubble Space Telescope since after all PS4 is current gen 8 console leader and May 15 NPD winner??

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#37 Zero_epyon
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@Heil68 said:

I wonder if they're using the Hubble Space Telescope since after all PS4 is current gen 8 console leader and May 15 NPD winner??

You and @FoxbatAlpha crack me up!

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#38 GameboyTroy
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They sure are when they don't have many 1st party games being put out this year. But 2016 is lookin' good though.

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#39  Edited By tonitorsi
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@Nengo_Flow said:

Its not secret that SONY has slipped a bit this year and that the PS4 will weak sauce for the rest of the year.

It has not slipped at all and comfortably won't through the rest of entire the year. Sony only needs to introduce a price reduction to get more ahead of the competition with an untouchable lead for the rest of the generation. Star Wars Battlefront, MGS5, Batman and Call of Duty bundles will take care of the rest. Its that plain and simple for them at this point.

Nintendo's in a dire spot needing to reinvent their brand to keep profit margins healthy and investors happy.

Microsoft is pushing hard to harvest a viable strategy to win them favors over the PS4's "Gamer's Console" campaign to re-captivate interest like they did with Kinect and Xbox 360 last gen. Phil and his team are just throwing ideas out there and hoping something sticks.

PS4 is single handely sucking out dry all the possible sales and success that could have been amassed by several parties this gen but instead Microsoft and Nintendo are the ones scraping the bottom of the barrel on the console market since the PS4 took off.

A 24 million lead vs 12 and 9 million is hardly "slipping a bit this year".

PS4 is selling on a on-steroids- PS2 pace. Let's be realistic here.

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isn't PS4 sales up to 25 million now or so, very close to 30 No wonder any game you play online does not feel underpopulated.

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#42 Zero_epyon
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@Samus3D said:

This is what I mean. Are we really trying to start a remaster vs remaster hype?

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@dvalo9 said:

I'm fairness I don't get this " xbone has the best exclusive" argument. Name an exclusive of its type better than bloodborne. Better than second son?

Halo 5 is all I am excited about for Xbox one.

Forza Horizon 2.

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#44 Zero_epyon
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@speedfreak48t5p said:
@dvalo9 said:

I'm fairness I don't get this " xbone has the best exclusive" argument. Name an exclusive of its type better than bloodborne. Better than second son?

Halo 5 is all I am excited about for Xbox one.

Forza Horizon 2.

All preference at this point. But "THE" game hasn't been released on either platform yet.

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@blackace said:
@Shewgenja said:

Nah, Third party is going to be HAM this holidays.

Pretty much. I don't see PS4 sales slowing down that much. Definitely not overseas in Europe. Since they all seem to hate M$ over there. Might change a little after Win10 / DX12 launches though. We'll see.

hahahhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...

@makemefamous07 said:

They're in the same boat. MS has a big opportunity to make this there year & catch up to ps4 by a couple millions with big titles coming out this year like Gears Remastered/ Halo 5/ Rise of the TR/ Forza & watever else they show at E3 that may make it to this year like Battletoads/ Rares new IPs etc. So they're set for this year. But still have to show what they been bragging about with there new first party games and such then Gamescom with Quantum Break/ Crackdown/ Scaleboud etc etc.

Sony by far needs to prove themselves cuz besides Bloodborne which fell out of NPD in only after a month after it released (end of March) have to show games that gamers want and not dog crap like Killzone/ driveclub etc. They have nothing this year but uncharted HD which is a cash grab because of no MP/ CO OP which is missing content and Until Dawn which is laughable. They need to show games that are more about FUN factor then anything else cuz they been lacking in exclusvies.

Also cuz this fall will end up being another joke of exclusives which will be 2 long years w/o a title thats a must have for the holidays and delays out the ass. R&C releases in spring which isnt a big title cuz that franchise is dead in the water for years now and this new one is just the same which is a shame cuz R&C needed a HUGE make over but looks like were not getting that. Uncharted 4 which is the only game that will end up big for them but willing to bet that these will get delayed for *Polish* along with maybe R&C etc etc like all of sonys exclusvies.

Nintendo is dead along with the wii u so they have no hope or chance to do anything with that console until there next console lol

So you count Gears as something big but not Uncharted..hahaha Online play wasn't a strong point in the series dude,alto i think they should have put it.

Halo Fell of the charts to,and FH2 and sunset over drive didn't even chart hahaha.

The Tomorrow Children.

Rime.

Drawn to Death.

Until Down.

Tales of Zesteria

No Man sky

Uncharted collections..

Hellblade

I see games and what is more important lots of new IP so while MS rely on the same.

Halo,Gears,Forza,Fable crap Sony actually has new IP on hand this year.

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@tormentos: New IPs are only important if the game is fun to play, I'm pretty sure that Halo, Gears, Forza, and Fable will be a lot of FUN as always! Most of the time the CRAP is only on the PS4.

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@Samus3D said:

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@Zero_epyon said:
@Heil68 said:

I wonder if they're using the Hubble Space Telescope since after all PS4 is current gen 8 console leader and May 15 NPD winner??

You and @FoxbatAlpha crack me up!

They are the same person.

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@crashnburn281 said:
@Zero_epyon said:
@Heil68 said:

I wonder if they're using the Hubble Space Telescope since after all PS4 is current gen 8 console leader and May 15 NPD winner??

You and @FoxbatAlpha crack me up!

They are the same person.

Wouldn't surprise me...

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#50 FoxbatAlpha
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@Zero_epyon said:
@crashnburn281 said:
@Zero_epyon said:
@Heil68 said:

I wonder if they're using the Hubble Space Telescope since after all PS4 is current gen 8 console leader and May 15 NPD winner??

You and @FoxbatAlpha crack me up!

They are the same person.

Wouldn't surprise me...

No we are not the same person. Although it would be a tremendous act to pull off by one person, becoming Lemming King and Cow King. Trust me we are two separate people. We have talked to each other on P2M podcast so go have a listen.

Plus my posts have a heavy Porn/masturbating undertone.