Sony can't win.

The best part is the people who try to wish away the $600 price tag with future games.... ITS STILL $600!!!! ITS STILL SELLING BAD!!! Ah well... sleep well sweet prince.colmusterd28

Well DUH it's still 600, but at least with more good games it helps JUSTIFY THE PRICE.  Honestly, the only thing that justifies the Wii is Zelda.  A game you are likely not going to be playing for the rest of your Wii's lifespan. 

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goblaa

Hahahaha 

Wii will die in a year because its gimmick will get old.

PS3 is built to last 10 years.

NobuoMusicMaker

Lololol. I can't believe you actually believe the BS that Sony brainwashes you with. 

Nintendo are dominant in Japan, Europe, and America. DS sales are a worldwide success story, but at least you find buy a DS. Wii is sold out everywhere.

 

This is for teh Europe. Game is the most prominent UK videogame store.

• Playstation 3: 10 in stock. 10 more in 2 days
• Wii: All packages sold out!
  

It the same story in any shop you go in. It is impossible to buy a Wii.

• Amazon.co.uk: Sold out, used Wii's selling at 50% markup.
• Play.com: Sold out! Used Wii's selling at an even higher markup!

But I thought that Playstation 3 was going to win this generations console war? What are Sony going to do to accomplish that?

 

 

teh PS3 is sitting on teh store shelves gathering teh dust.

 

Lilac_Benjie

man your always creating troll topics. dont you got better things to do? like get off the internet? 

[QUOTE="bluebrad1974"][QUOTE="NobuoMusicMaker"]

Wii will die in a year because its gimmick will get old.

PS3 is built to last 10 years.

Thrice_III

Come on.  Sony has created every system to last a long time, hence the inclusion of blu-ray in the PS3.

If they wanted to win the first 2 years they would have not included blu-ray but their system is built for the long haul.  The question should not be if the PS3 will last 10 years, which it will, but rather the question should be if Sony can catch up to the other systems after it finally gains momentum and 100 million PS2 owners decide to buy a next gen system.

O RLY?Jandurin

YA RLY.  I can't find a specific citation, but if you think back to 2005 and the TGS keynote revealing the controller, the demos they showed to the press were minigames (some of which are in Wii Play in one form or another) and a demo build of Metroid Prime 2 with Wii remote+nunchuck control.  It may have been the very first piece of software to use the control setup, and it's certainly the first that we know about.

[QUOTE="Jandurin"]O RLY?Iyethar

YA RLY. I can't find a specific citation, but if you think back to 2005 and the TGS keynote revealing the controller, the demos they showed to the press were minigames (some of which are in Wii Play in one form or another) and a demo build of Metroid Prime 2 with Wii remote+nunchuck control. It may have been the very first piece of software to use the control setup, and it's certainly the first that we know about.

Very Interesting. 

[QUOTE="NobuoMusicMaker"]PS3 is built to last 10 years. Lilac_Benjie

Playstation has never been built to last. :lol:

[QUOTE="Thrice_III"][QUOTE="bluebrad1974"][QUOTE="NobuoMusicMaker"]

Wii will die in a year because its gimmick will get old.

PS3 is built to last 10 years.

bluebrad1974

Come on.  Sony has created every system to last a long time, hence the inclusion of blu-ray in the PS3.

If they wanted to win the first 2 years they would have not included blu-ray but their system is built for the long haul.  The question should not be if the PS3 will last 10 years, which it will, but rather the question should be if Sony can catch up to the other systems after it finally gains momentum and 100 million PS2 owners decide to buy a next gen system.

Wii will die in a year because its gimmick will get old.

PS3 is built to last 10 years.

NobuoMusicMaker

Tell that to the people that still go to the stores every morning to see if they have a Wii in stock, while they walk right past the PS3. 

[QUOTE="Iyethar"]

Present: Excite Truck, Trauma Center, SSX Blur

Future: Dragon Quest: Swords, Metroid Prime: Corruption

river_rat3117

EDIT: i just listed FPS if you didnt quite get that.

Excite Truck would require use of an analog stick and shoulder triggers, which would totally kill the feel of holding a handle attached to the truck that it does so well.

Trauma Center can't be done on dual analog without completely changing the gameplay.

SSX Blur has the supreme niftyness of two-level analog control with the nunchuck.  You tilt the nunchuck and move the analog stick to steer, which you could technically do on SIXAXIS, but with the added benefit that you don't have to move around the part with buttons on in synchronization.  Also PS3 costs $600.

DQ: Swords would lose much of its appeal to me on dual analog.  I mean, what would you do?  Have enemies approach you in rows corresponding to buttons?  Move the analog stick around to aim the shield and sword poorly extremely poorly in comparison to the Wii's pointer, forcing the gameplay to be geared for a much slower pace?

The impact that other FPS games may have on MPC's sales is really irrelevant to the quality of MPC's gameplay.  Don't change the subject.

[QUOTE="goblaa"]

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MCGSMB

Hahahaha

LOL... Photoshop wins the system wars... 

Wii will die in a year because its gimmick will get old.

PS3 is built to last 10 years. 

NobuoMusicMaker

In a differnt theard you said 8...
Are you just pulling these numbers out of your @ss or something??

[QUOTE="NobuoMusicMaker"]

Wii will die in a year because its gimmick will get old.

PS3 is built to last 10 years. 

Hockey_Slayer

In a differnt theard you said 8...
Are you just pulling these nubmers out of your @ss or something??

Are you seeing a trend here? You're not prooving that the Wii or DS is a superior system with sales numbers, you're simply demonstrating that microeconomics is correct about the influence of price on quantity sold.
subrosian

[QUOTE="subrosian"]Are you seeing a trend here? You're not prooving that the Wii or DS is a superior system with sales numbers, you're simply demonstrating that microeconomics is correct about the influence of price on quantity sold.
Jandurin

The Gamecube wasn't a desirable system, the PS3 and Wii are - the PS3 is a wanted system, it's simply priced out of the range where most consumers are going to buy it. Microeconomics accounts for that too - it's simply *obvious* that a $250 system will outsell a $600 system - there are more consumers willing to spend $250 on a console than there are consumers willing to spend $600 on a console.

We're comparing two systems that are actively wanted by consumers, and of course completely ignoring the Xbox 360's lead on both of them (yeah yeah, it came out earlier). In any case, sales doesn't mean quality, unless you consider Okami, Ikaruga, Psychonauts, Eternal Darkness, et cetera to be "bad" games simply because they sold poorly.

lol, 5 months in.....and you say SOE has no chance? 

Can we at least wait until the end of the year before we crown the Wii wee.  Honestly I hope they don't win because the system is limited....I hate to think how that might effect the budget for making games on the X360/PS3. 

Wii will die in a year because its gimmick will get old.

PS3 is built to last 10 years.

NobuoMusicMaker

:lol:  Yeah okay whatever you say lol

I'm sorry to say this, but actually the TC is comparing apples and oranges. The Wii is not aiming at the market of the PS3 or the X360, it's main competition is the PS2. So if you like to bash the PS3 then please compare it with the X360, they have more in common. And yes, the Wii's lifecycle will be 4-5 years if Nintendo can proove that the Wiimote is capable of more then Wii-Sports or Wario-ware (...looking at Metroid and hoping). But if they can't, then you can expect the Wii2 in 3 years.

I'm sorry to say this, but actually the TC is comparing apples and oranges. The Wii is not aiming at the market of the PS3 or the X360, it's main competition is the PS2. So if you like to bash the PS3 then please compare it with the X360, they have more in common. And yes, the Wii's lifecycle will be 4-5 years if Nintendo can proove that the Wiimote is capable of more then Wii-Sports or Wario-ware (...looking at Metroid and hoping). But if they can't, then you can expect the Wii2 in 3 years.

Kreean

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="subrosian"]Are you seeing a trend here? You're not prooving that the Wii or DS is a superior system with sales numbers, you're simply demonstrating that microeconomics is correct about the influence of price on quantity sold.
subrosian

The Gamecube wasn't a desirable system, the PS3 and Wii are - the PS3 is a wanted system, it's simply priced out of the range where most consumers are going to buy it. Microeconomics accounts for that too - it's simply *obvious* that a $250 system will outsell a $600 system - there are more consumers willing to spend $250 on a console than there are consumers willing to spend $600 on a console.

We're comparing two systems that are actively wanted by consumers, and of course completely ignoring the Xbox 360's lead on both of them (yeah yeah, it came out earlier). In any case, sales doesn't mean quality, unless you consider Okami, Ikaruga, Psychonauts, Eternal Darkness, et cetera to be "bad" games simply because they sold poorly.

That's a gross oversimplification.  You're assuming that if price were a non-factor that PS3 demand and Wii demand are relatively equal, which can't be known because we can't measure the extent of Wii demand vs. its price point.  You're also describing perfectly elastic demand (Price * 2 = Demand / 2) which is not a good model for affordable consumer electronics.  Purchase threshholds are in play, so don't expect PS3 to keep pace at 50% of Wii sales.

Examples of quality software that has not sold well do little to prove an inverse corollary with relation to hardware.  The logic doesn't work for one thing, and for another, high hardware sales for game consoles indirectly but inevitably improve the quality of the platform. 

[QUOTE="Kreean"]

I'm sorry to say this, but actually the TC is comparing apples and oranges. The Wii is not aiming at the market of the PS3 or the X360, it's main competition is the PS2. So if you like to bash the PS3 then please compare it with the X360, they have more in common. And yes, the Wii's lifecycle will be 4-5 years if Nintendo can proove that the Wiimote is capable of more then Wii-Sports or Wario-ware (...looking at Metroid and hoping). But if they can't, then you can expect the Wii2 in 3 years.

PeterTimpa

Don't you guys get it yet? Only hard-core-gamers are gonna buy 2 or 3 consoles. Casuals won't and non-gamers certainly won't. SMG, MP:3, Disaster, No more heroes, Batallion Wars 2, Zelda, FF, DQ:S etc. those are for the core gamer and yeah it'll probably sit next to another console. Didn't the majority of core gamers have 2 consoles last gen?

The Wii is meant to capture the same demographics as the PS2+the non gamers that weren't invovled much last gen. The PS2 may last 10 years but because of a kick a** library. Same goes for the PS3 if the game library doesn't sell the hardware, fancy features won't.

Wii will die in a year because its gimmick will get old.

PS3 is built to last 10 years. 

NobuoMusicMaker

A human being is built to last 80 years, but without food and water, it won't last more than a week.

[QUOTE="Willy105"]

[QUOTE="river_rat3117"]how, i just wanna how, how can people now this far in the future, as if father time came and cr@pped the result of the next gen wars right in their face. and lets get to reality the only thing ive herd from wii owners is "it sold more it sold more wii win" and then you hear ohh well gamespot gave this wii game a better rating than this ps3 game. but if its this xbox game got a better score than a wiii game, then its followed by, "ohh well the gamespot scores dont count when you compare it to the xbox" lol wii fanboys just go in circles and get nowhere fastriver_rat3117

MAdden NFL 07

Sonic and the Secret Rings

Both Wii success stories.

When compared to the PS3 and 360 games, Sonic might as well stay exclusive to Wii and never leave.

And Madden NFL 07 is selling very well on Wii. just look at the charts. It was #6 in the top 10 Wii games sold. And it has never left the Top 10 chart.

[QUOTE="NobuoMusicMaker"]

Wii will die in a year because its gimmick will get old.

PS3 is built to last 10 years. 

Smoke_ManMuscle

A human being is built to last 80 years, but without food and water, it won't last more than a week.

This is the best response to that post yet.

i see that sheeps name, i know even before i click this thread im in for a good laugh :lol: LawLo_O

lmfao i got a laugh out of that sig

Sure the PS3 can win.  The Wii will probably be replaced by a better Nintendo console in 5 years, which means the PS3 has 5 years to make up the gap. RahnAetas