Sony Desperation? No...

People keep saying the price drop of the PS3 is out of desperation, well thennn why not look at it like this..?

Microsfot has many SKU's on the market right now, with another one about to be released.... I'm smeliing MS's fear...

Microsoft has also dropped the prices of their SKU's... :O, they're afraid of Sony, I see it now.

That sounds stupid doesn't it? And I think it sounds just as stupid as "Sony is dropping the price in desperation".

You can twist it anyway you wwant, but the fact remains that what Sony is doing the smart thing to do.

People keep saying the price drop of the PS3 is out of desperation, well thennn why not look at it like this..?

Microsfot has many SKU's on the market right now, with another one about to be released.... I'm smeliing MS's fear...

Microsoft has also dropped the prices of their SKU's... :O, they're afraid of Sony, I see it now.

That sounds stupid doesn't it? And I think it sounds just as stupid as "Sony is dropping the price in desperation".

You can twist it anyway you wwant, but the fact remains that what Sony is doing the smart thing to do.

O_Lineman17

Unfortunately for Sony the smart thing to do is to be desperate. The reason why is because of the amount of money it is losing per system. Competition is the reason, but competition breeds desperation.

People keep saying the price drop of the PS3 is out of desperation, well thennn why not look at it like this..?

Microsfot has many SKU's on the market right now, with another one about to be released.... I'm smeliing MS's fear...

Microsoft has also dropped the prices of their SKU's... :O, they're afraid of Sony, I see it now.

That sounds stupid doesn't it? And I think it sounds just as stupid as "Sony is dropping the price in desperation".

You can twist it anyway you wwant, but the fact remains that what Sony is doing the smart thing to do.

O_Lineman17

And that would be desperately trying to keep up. Do you really believe they took the BC out of the PS3 so consumers can focus more on PS3 games as Tretton stated?

The difference is MS dropped the 360's price $50 after almost two years. That's a pretty long time for a console to be out without a price drop. Sony dropped the price of the PS3 $100 in less then one year. That's a sign the console isn't doing all that well.

That said, I still think it's a smart move by Sony. They desperately need to increase their user base or the devs may start treating them like they did the xbox and GC last gen. As I stated before, unless you have money invested in Sony, the price drop is a good thing.

I can't see anything smart Sony did for the PS3. They got too over confident in my opinion that's why they're last right now and desperate.

I think MS is competing more with Wii right now.

call it what you will. I don't think just because they are in last makes it a desperate decision. You don't call any of the 306 price drops anything to talk about because they're ahead of someone?

:? maybe my way of thinking isn't the same as everyone elses..?

BTW I'm no cow, if any of you have seen me on the boards, you'll know I'm not.

The difference is MS dropped the 360's price $50 after almost two years. That's a pretty long time for a console to be out without a price drop. Sony dropped the price of the PS3 $100 in less then one year. That's a sign the console isn't doing all that well.

That said, I still think it's a smart move by Sony. They desperately need to increase their user base or the devs may start treating them like they did the xbox and GC last gen. As I stated before, unless you have money invested in Sony, the price drop is a good thing.

myke2010

Okok, that makes me see it in a different way. I didn't put the time period into a factor.

call it what you will. I don't think just because they are in last makes it a desperate decision. You don't call any of the 306 price drops anything to talk about because they're ahead of someone?

:? maybe my way of thinking isn't the same as everyone elses..?

BTW I'm no cow, if any of you have seen me on the boards, you'll know I'm not.

O_Lineman17

Your logic is typical cow logic. Anyone who thinks that this is anything less than desperation is foolish. HS was #10 with a measly 100K and PS3 was outsold 5:1 in the US. Those numbers look desperate to me. So in summation if anyone is a cow it is you my friend.

Sony is in last. MS is not. Who is the desperate one again?LINKloco

LOL SONY DOES what they do for dev support. If it was up to them they would milk the ps2 for another 3 years and let ps3 slowly sell Until MGS and killzone come out. I really think devs are complaining to sony about getting more consumers.

[QUOTE="O_Lineman17"]

People keep saying the price drop of the PS3 is out of desperation, well thennn why not look at it like this..?

Microsfot has many SKU's on the market right now, with another one about to be released.... I'm smeliing MS's fear...

Microsoft has also dropped the prices of their SKU's... :O, they're afraid of Sony, I see it now.

That sounds stupid doesn't it? And I think it sounds just as stupid as "Sony is dropping the price in desperation".

You can twist it anyway you wwant, but the fact remains that what Sony is doing the smart thing to do.

Palax

Unfortunately for Sony the smart thing to do is to be desperate. The reason why is because of the amount of money it is losing per system. Competition is the reason, but competition breeds desperation.

Sony is in last. MS is not. Who is the desperate one again?LINKloco

[QUOTE="O_Lineman17"]

call it what you will. I don't think just because they are in last makes it a desperate decision. You don't call any of the 306 price drops anything to talk about because they're ahead of someone?

:? maybe my way of thinking isn't the same as everyone elses..?

BTW I'm no cow, if any of you have seen me on the boards, you'll know I'm not.

Palax

Your logic is typical cow logic. Anyone who thinks that this is anything less than desperation is foolish. HS was #10 with a measly 100K and PS3 was outsold 5:1 in the US. Those numbers look desperate to me. So in summation if anyone is a cow it is you my friend.

[QUOTE="O_Lineman17"]

People keep saying the price drop of the PS3 is out of desperation, well thennn why not look at it like this..?

Microsfot has many SKU's on the market right now, with another one about to be released.... I'm smeliing MS's fear...

Microsoft has also dropped the prices of their SKU's... :O, they're afraid of Sony, I see it now.

That sounds stupid doesn't it? And I think it sounds just as stupid as "Sony is dropping the price in desperation".

You can twist it anyway you wwant, but the fact remains that what Sony is doing the smart thing to do.

gromit007

And that would be desperately trying to keep up. Do you really believe they took the BC out of the PS3 so consumers can focus more on PS3 games as Tretton stated?

It was costing them money and it makes sense. Wal-marts(the biggest retailer in the usa)where I live is starting to phase out PS2 titles and stocking those holes with PS3 titles.

did MS change the price of the 360the first year?LinKuei_warrior

Who cares? Let them all be desperate, it just means ill get to enjoy all 3 consoles sooner.xTHExJUICEx

Look at the cows get ruffled when you tell them Sony is desperate. It's so cute I want to take a picture.

Selling a console at a loss is one thing. When you have to cut prices because of competition to an even further loss this is only done under the most extreme circumstances. Those circumstances are here cows. Cows like to say "it's just business". Yes, they are right, but it's just spin. To steer you away from the darker side. Business is competition. Competition breeds desperation. Businesses are desperate for our money. It is their sole purpose. The damage control only makes you look more foolish, and yes I'm talking to you, _AssasN_

[QUOTE="Palax"][QUOTE="O_Lineman17"]

call it what you will. I don't think just because they are in last makes it a desperate decision. You don't call any of the 306 price drops anything to talk about because they're ahead of someone?

:? maybe my way of thinking isn't the same as everyone elses..?

BTW I'm no cow, if any of you have seen me on the boards, you'll know I'm not.

_AsasN_

Your logic is typical cow logic. Anyone who thinks that this is anything less than desperation is foolish. HS was #10 with a measly 100K and PS3 was outsold 5:1 in the US. Those numbers look desperate to me. So in summation if anyone is a cow it is you my friend.

The truth hurts...I can understand if this is how you deal with it.

[QUOTE="Palax"][QUOTE="O_Lineman17"]

People keep saying the price drop of the PS3 is out of desperation, well thennn why not look at it like this..?

Microsfot has many SKU's on the market right now, with another one about to be released.... I'm smeliing MS's fear...

Microsoft has also dropped the prices of their SKU's... :O, they're afraid of Sony, I see it now.

That sounds stupid doesn't it? And I think it sounds just as stupid as "Sony is dropping the price in desperation".

You can twist it anyway you wwant, but the fact remains that what Sony is doing the smart thing to do.

_AsasN_

Unfortunately for Sony the smart thing to do is to be desperate. The reason why is because of the amount of money it is losing per system. Competition is the reason, but competition breeds desperation.

Sony is in last. MS is not. Who is the desperate one again?LINKloco

[QUOTE="_AsasN_"][QUOTE="Palax"][QUOTE="O_Lineman17"]

People keep saying the price drop of the PS3 is out of desperation, well thennn why not look at it like this..?

Microsfot has many SKU's on the market right now, with another one about to be released.... I'm smeliing MS's fear...

Microsoft has also dropped the prices of their SKU's... :O, they're afraid of Sony, I see it now.

That sounds stupid doesn't it? And I think it sounds just as stupid as "Sony is dropping the price in desperation".

You can twist it anyway you wwant, but the fact remains that what Sony is doing the smart thing to do.

LINKloco

Unfortunately for Sony the smart thing to do is to be desperate. The reason why is because of the amount of money it is losing per system. Competition is the reason, but competition breeds desperation.

Sony is in last. MS is not. Who is the desperate one again?LINKloco

[QUOTE="_AsasN_"][QUOTE="Palax"][QUOTE="O_Lineman17"]

call it what you will. I don't think just because they are in last makes it a desperate decision. You don't call any of the 306 price drops anything to talk about because they're ahead of someone?

:? maybe my way of thinking isn't the same as everyone elses..?

BTW I'm no cow, if any of you have seen me on the boards, you'll know I'm not.

Palax

Your logic is typical cow logic. Anyone who thinks that this is anything less than desperation is foolish. HS was #10 with a measly 100K and PS3 was outsold 5:1 in the US. Those numbers look desperate to me. So in summation if anyone is a cow it is you my friend.

The truth hurts...I can understand if this is how you deal with it.

And there's the reply I was expecting. Thanks!

[QUOTE="LINKloco"][QUOTE="_AsasN_"][QUOTE="Palax"][QUOTE="O_Lineman17"]

People keep saying the price drop of the PS3 is out of desperation, well thennn why not look at it like this..?

Microsfot has many SKU's on the market right now, with another one about to be released.... I'm smeliing MS's fear...

Microsoft has also dropped the prices of their SKU's... :O, they're afraid of Sony, I see it now.

That sounds stupid doesn't it? And I think it sounds just as stupid as "Sony is dropping the price in desperation".

You can twist it anyway you wwant, but the fact remains that what Sony is doing the smart thing to do.

_AsasN_

Unfortunately for Sony the smart thing to do is to be desperate. The reason why is because of the amount of money it is losing per system. Competition is the reason, but competition breeds desperation.

Sony is in last. MS is not. Who is the desperate one again?LINKloco

apparently u guys dont realize that profit doesnt come from selling the consoles themselves rather it comes from the software and there is plenty on the horizontomjoetan

Nobody mentioned it because in this case there is a lack of hardware in which to sell the software. Most everyone here is aware that software is the money maker. I hope.

Unfortunately for Sony the smart thing to do is to be desperate. Palax

That is basically a pretty conciseand acuratesummation of Sony's position. They have to be desperate. It is the only way that they can hope to survive. And it could get pretty grim before they achieve any real success.

Sorry guys, it's desperation. Do you honestly think Sony would be so quick to cut prices twice if the hardware was performing up to snuff? Come on now. BioShockOwnz

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Sorry guys, it's desperation. Do you honestly think Sony would be so quick to cut prices twice if the hardware was performing up to snuff? Come on now. _AsasN_

Oh yea thats right "it's just business. That's why nobody is taking you seriously right now.

[QUOTE="O_Lineman17"]

People keep saying the price drop of the PS3 is out of desperation, well thennn why not look at it like this..?

Microsfot has many SKU's on the market right now, with another one about to be released.... I'm smeliing MS's fear...

Microsoft has also dropped the prices of their SKU's... :O, they're afraid of Sony, I see it now.

That sounds stupid doesn't it? And I think it sounds just as stupid as "Sony is dropping the price in desperation".

You can twist it anyway you wwant, but the fact remains that what Sony is doing the smart thing to do.

Palax

Unfortunately for Sony the smart thing to do is to be desperate. The reason why is because of the amount of money it is losing per system. Competition is the reason, but competition breeds desperation.

Sony is definitely desperate and after seeing the Sept 2007 NPD number, they are going to get more desperate next year. Sony is going to be losing millions with all these price drops. They made one price drop and announced the 80GB PS3. Now, less then 2 months later, they announce a price drop on the NEW 80GB PS3 they just released and release a new SKU (40GB PS3). If that's not desperation, I don't know what is. M$ has only made one price drop and they have released the Elite. That's about it. They need to ditch the Core all together. I still can't understand why they are keeping that system alive. They should have terminated when they announced the price drop.

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Wow, that is some seriously flawed logic right there. Refer to my post above.

If the 360 is doing so well, why did theprice drop already? Why did they suddenlycome out with a new SKU, which included HDMI, and astandard120GB HDD?By your logic, that would be out of desperation, however it's just business like I mentioned before. New information, price drops, new sku's, etc. can all spark sales._AsasN_

Uuumm.. the price dropped on the XBox 360 almost 22 months after launching. Sony dropped the price of the PS3 just 8 months after launch. The only other 2 consoles that dropped their price quicker was the Virtual Boy and the 3DO systems. Those consoles ended up dying in less then 2 years.

M$ released a new SKU to cater to hardcore gamers and to support their HD downloadable movies and T.V. shows. That's why the Elite was announced. Why did Sony release the 80GB PS3 and then announce a cheaper 40GBPS3? That logic doesn't make any sense. Yes, it's business, but in Sony's case, it's desperate panic business. Sony's logic right now is "The competition is pulling away FAST and the holidays are approaching. Our PS3 is still higher then the competition and it's being outsold in all 3 regions combined to the Wii and XBox 360 sales in the U.S. along. What do we do!?!? What do we do!?!?"

apparently u guys dont realize that profit doesnt come from selling the consoles themselves rather it comes from the software and there is plenty on the horizontomjoetan

Well if they is the case Ms is winning the console and slaughtering the ps3 in software sales.

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Sorry guys, it's desperation. Do you honestly think Sony would be so quick to cut prices twice if the hardware was performing up to snuff? Come on now. _AsasN_

Yes, the PS3 is doing so successful so they've decided to cut the price and lose money on each console. They don't like to profit. They care about you, their consumer.:roll:

We're not the ones who don't understand. You're incorrect and then you decide to take little shots at people you argue with. Awesome, just awesome.:roll:

[QUOTE="_AsasN_"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Sorry guys, it's desperation. Do you honestly think Sony would be so quick to cut prices twice if the hardware was performing up to snuff? Come on now. BioShockOwnz

Yes, the PS3 is doing so successful so they've decided to cut the price and lose money on each console. They don't like to profit. They care about you, their consumer.:roll:

We're not the ones who don't understand. You're incorrect and then you decide to take little shots at people you argue with. Awesome, just awesome.:roll:

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="_AsasN_"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Sorry guys, it's desperation. Do you honestly think Sony would be so quick to cut prices twice if the hardware was performing up to snuff? Come on now. _AsasN_

Yes, the PS3 is doing so successful so they've decided to cut the price and lose money on each console. They don't like to profit. They care about you, their consumer.:roll:

We're not the ones who don't understand. You're incorrect and then you decide to take little shots at people you argue with. Awesome, just awesome.:roll:

First, if the PS3 was doing successful then Sony wouldn't be dropping the price 2 times within less than a year. No way, no how. Sony needs to make the PS3 more appealing and yes, they are desperate to make it more appealing to the mainstream.

Second, I never said that you took a shot at me. Please read.

Thanks for the defintion of Desperation. Now we can all clearly see that Sony is desperate. If being outsold 5:1 isn't a reason to despair then what the hell is?

Your own posts defeat you. How sad.

lol its all a chess move too your thread,, companys always stay 3 moves ahead of the opponent ,, is the game,, G

Thanks for the defintion of Desperation. Now we can all clearly see that Sony is desperate. If being outsold 5:1 isn't a reason to despair then what the hell is?

Your own posts defeat you. How sad.

Palax

[QUOTE="_AsasN_"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="_AsasN_"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Sorry guys, it's desperation. Do you honestly think Sony would be so quick to cut prices twice if the hardware was performing up to snuff? Come on now. BioShockOwnz

Yes, the PS3 is doing so successful so they've decided to cut the price and lose money on each console. They don't like to profit. They care about you, their consumer.:roll:

We're not the ones who don't understand. You're incorrect and then you decide to take little shots at people you argue with. Awesome, just awesome.:roll:

First, if the PS3 was doing successful then Sony wouldn't be dropping the price 2 times within less than a year. No way, no how. Sony needs to make the PS3 more appealing and yes, they are desperate to make it more appealing to the mainstream.

Second, I never said that you took a shot at me. Please read.

[QUOTE="Palax"]

Thanks for the defintion of Desperation. Now we can all clearly see that Sony is desperate. If being outsold 5:1 isn't a reason to despair then what the hell is?

Your own posts defeat you. How sad.

_AsasN_

Yea great argument. We're all wrong and you are right. The fact that PS3 has to cut prices to stay alive in it's gaming divison doesn't = despair. Let's all just pretend they are doing price cuts because "its just business"

Like I said the truth hurts and that's why sometimes we can't admit it to ourselves.

[QUOTE="Palax"]

Thanks for the defintion of Desperation. Now we can all clearly see that Sony is desperate. If being outsold 5:1 isn't a reason to despair then what the hell is?

Your own posts defeat you. How sad.

_AsasN_

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="_AsasN_"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="_AsasN_"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Sorry guys, it's desperation. Do you honestly think Sony would be so quick to cut prices twice if the hardware was performing up to snuff? Come on now. _AsasN_

Good god, what the hell is wrong with people around here? Where in that post did I say anything at all about Sony "not liking profit" I made absolutely no mention of them caring about the consumer. I've made several posts in the past, arguing with lemmings who claim that very same thing.

I don't care what you say. You obviously don't understand what desperation is.

Where did I take any little shots? I simply said this shouldn't be hard to understand, and it wouldn't be for most people, but I guess I should stop and remember I am in System Wars. The use of logic is something that's frowned upon around here. See, that's me taking a "little shot."

First, if the PS3 was doing successful then Sony wouldn't be dropping the price 2 times within less than a year. No way, no how. Sony needs to make the PS3 more appealing and yes, they are desperate to make it more appealing to the mainstream.

Second, I never said that you took a shot at me. Please read.

Read the bolded and underlined. You were responding to my "little shots" comment by stating the above. You did think I meant that you were taking shots at me by how you responded. Once again, please read. All I ask of you is to stay consistent.