Sony Had a Slide That Simply Said VOC, Which Means Voice Of Consumers.

"Hirai says that Sony needs to make sure they're absorbing feedback from users and incorporating it in the development of new products, further strengthening ties between users"

I'm quite sure rumble is not the only thing PSP/PS3 fans really want sony to address.

Where is Custom Soundtrack for PS3

When will Sony add BIG FEATURES for PSP that owners have asked for since day 1.

And many more request.

Where is Custom Soundtrack for PS3

PSP107

The new SDK kits already have the software or whatever that allows devs to put in custom soundtracks. And, Firmware 2.0.

Sony really cares about their customers.

Remember when the PS2 scratched discs and Sony replied "Our system doesn't scratch disks, people do"

Sony cares a lot.

Sony really cares about their customers.

Remember when the PS2 scratched discs and Sony replied "Our system doesn't scratch disks, people do"

Sony cares a lot.

sexy_chimp

I thought that was what MS said about the 360???

That is why MS is being sued by numerous people regarding scratched discs, right?

[QUOTE="sexy_chimp"]

Sony really cares about their customers.

Remember when the PS2 scratched discs and Sony replied "Our system doesn't scratch disks, people do"

Sony cares a lot.

Navy_Sealz

I thought that was what MS said about the 360???

That is why MS is being sued by numerous people regarding scratched discs, right?

No, Sony did say that.

Microsoft said "Things break" Which is stupid, but not as stupid as blaming it on their customers.

[QUOTE="Navy_Sealz"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"]

Sony really cares about their customers.

Remember when the PS2 scratched discs and Sony replied "Our system doesn't scratch disks, people do"

Sony cares a lot.

sexy_chimp

I thought that was what MS said about the 360???

That is why MS is being sued by numerous people regarding scratched discs, right?

No, Sony did say that.

Microsoft said "Things break" Which is stupid, but not as stupid as blaming it on their customers.

No MS.

[QUOTE="Navy_Sealz"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"]

Sony really cares about their customers.

Remember when the PS2 scratched discs and Sony replied "Our system doesn't scratch disks, people do"

Sony cares a lot.

sexy_chimp

I thought that was what MS said about the 360???

That is why MS is being sued by numerous people regarding scratched discs, right?

No, Sony did say that.

Microsoft said "Things break" Which is stupid, but not as stupid as blaming it on their customers.

MS is the one who has the disc scratch problems currently though. Trust me, I work at a video rental store, we have a disc buffing service, and about half of the discs are 360 games with DEEP DEEP circular scratches. They are VERY hard to get out, and it's just wrong.

[QUOTE="PSP107"]

Where is Custom Soundtrack for PS3

Not-A-Stalker

The new SDK kits already have the software or whatever that allows devs to put in custom soundtracks. And, Firmware 2.0.

Do u have more info to this?

[QUOTE="sexy_chimp"][QUOTE="Navy_Sealz"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"]

Sony really cares about their customers.

Remember when the PS2 scratched discs and Sony replied "Our system doesn't scratch disks, people do"

Sony cares a lot.

Navy_Sealz

I thought that was what MS said about the 360???

That is why MS is being sued by numerous people regarding scratched discs, right?

No, Sony did say that.

Microsoft said "Things break" Which is stupid, but not as stupid as blaming it on their customers.

MS is the one who has the disc scratch problems currently though. Trust me, I work at a video rental store, we have a disc buffing service, and about half of the discs are 360 games with DEEP DEEP circular scratches. They are VERY hard to get out, and it's just wrong.

But Microsoft, at least from what I know,isn't blaming it on their customers like Sony did.

[QUOTE="Not-A-Stalker"][QUOTE="PSP107"]

Where is Custom Soundtrack for PS3

PSP107

The new SDK kits already have the software or whatever that allows devs to put in custom soundtracks. And, Firmware 2.0.

Do u have more info to this?

http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2007/08/21/ps3-sdk-1-80-lets-devs-add-custom-soundtracks-to-games/

"Hirai says that Sony needs to make sure they're absorbing feedback from users and incorporating it in the development of new products, further strengthening ties between users"

I'm quite sure rumble is not the only thing PSP/PS3 fans really want sony to address.

Where is Custom Soundtrack for PS3

When will Sony add BIG FEATURES for PSP that owners have asked for since day 1.

And many more request.

PSP107

Custom Tracks are up to devs really. I like my DS and happy for the games such as Metal Gear Ac!(underated even tho the story isnt as good as the canons,damnit Aiko),Metal Gear Portible ops(need to get that -.-),Final Fantasy Dissidia,Final Fantast 1 & 2,and mores stuff. Sony is actually trying to listen instead of thinking of its consumers as numbers xD! Keyword trying.

Sony really cares about their customers.

Remember when the PS2 scratched discs and Sony replied "Our system doesn't scratch disks, people do"

Sony cares a lot.

sexy_chimp

Remember when millions of 360's broke down, Microsoft lost 1 billion dollars, and Peter Moore said "things break"?
Microsoft cares a lot.

Fanboys, /sigh

[QUOTE="sexy_chimp"]

Sony really cares about their customers.

Remember when the PS2 scratched discs and Sony replied "Our system doesn't scratch disks, people do"

Sony cares a lot.

excelR83

Remember when millions of 360's broke down, Microsoft lost 1 billion dollars, and Peter Moore said "things break"?
Microsoft cares a lot.

Fanboys, /sigh

They are refunding the U$140 to everyone that had to pay for the warranty. That is the reason for the 1+ billion.

[QUOTE="excelR83"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"]

Sony really cares about their customers.

Remember when the PS2 scratched discs and Sony replied "Our system doesn't scratch disks, people do"

Sony cares a lot.

BlueBarad

Remember when millions of 360's broke down, Microsoft lost 1 billion dollars, and Peter Moore said "things break"?
Microsoft cares a lot.

Fanboys, /sigh

They are refunding the U$140 to everyone that had to pay for the warranty. That is the reason for the 1+ billion.

What about the people that had their games destroyed by their 360? Did they get a refund?

[QUOTE="sexy_chimp"]

Sony really cares about their customers.

Remember when the PS2 scratched discs and Sony replied "Our system doesn't scratch disks, people do"

Sony cares a lot.

excelR83

Remember when millions of 360's broke down, Microsoft lost 1 billion dollars, and Peter Moore said "things break"?
Microsoft cares a lot.

Fanboys, /sigh

Too bad I'm mainly a sheep.

[QUOTE="sexy_chimp"]

Sony really cares about their customers.

Remember when the PS2 scratched discs and Sony replied "Our system doesn't scratch disks, people do"

Sony cares a lot.

Navy_Sealz

I thought that was what MS said about the 360???

That is why MS is being sued by numerous people regarding scratched discs, right?

scratches were ms but you seem to forget the dre's. sony was sued since it was ignoring that problem.

[QUOTE="sexy_chimp"]

Sony really cares about their customers.

Remember when the PS2 scratched discs and Sony replied "Our system doesn't scratch disks, people do"

Sony cares a lot.

excelR83

Remember when millions of 360's broke down, Microsoft lost 1 billion dollars, and Peter Moore said "things break"?
Microsoft cares a lot.

Fanboys, /sigh

at least they aknowledged the problem and extended the warranty to 3 years unlike sony with the dre's.

[QUOTE="excelR83"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"]

Sony really cares about their customers.

Remember when the PS2 scratched discs and Sony replied "Our system doesn't scratch disks, people do"

Sony cares a lot.

shoeman12

Remember when millions of 360's broke down, Microsoft lost 1 billion dollars, and Peter Moore said "things break"?
Microsoft cares a lot.

Fanboys, /sigh

at least they aknowledged the problem and extended the warranty to 3 years unlike sony with the dre's.

The only reason M$ did that was so they wouldn't get sued.

[QUOTE="shoeman12"][QUOTE="excelR83"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"]

Sony really cares about their customers.

Remember when the PS2 scratched discs and Sony replied "Our system doesn't scratch disks, people do"

Sony cares a lot.

Ragnarok1051

Remember when millions of 360's broke down, Microsoft lost 1 billion dollars, and Peter Moore said "things break"?
Microsoft cares a lot.

Fanboys, /sigh

at least they aknowledged the problem and extended the warranty to 3 years unlike sony with the dre's.

The only reason M$ did that was so they wouldn't get sued.

So Sony WANTED to be sued? :?

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="shoeman12"][QUOTE="excelR83"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"]

Sony really cares about their customers.

Remember when the PS2 scratched discs and Sony replied "Our system doesn't scratch disks, people do"

Sony cares a lot.

sexy_chimp

Remember when millions of 360's broke down, Microsoft lost 1 billion dollars, and Peter Moore said "things break"?
Microsoft cares a lot.

Fanboys, /sigh

at least they aknowledged the problem and extended the warranty to 3 years unlike sony with the dre's.

The only reason M$ did that was so they wouldn't get sued.

So Sony WANTED to be sued? :?

Sony tried to get away with it but they didn't. M$ decided to refurb before they really got sued and the real bad press started to roll in.

[QUOTE="sexy_chimp"]

Sony really cares about their customers.

Remember when the PS2 scratched discs and Sony replied "Our system doesn't scratch disks, people do"

Sony cares a lot.

excelR83

Remember when millions of 360's broke down, Microsoft lost 1 billion dollars, and Peter Moore said "things break"?
Microsoft cares a lot.

Fanboys, /sigh

Yes because we all know that Peter Moore is someone we should listen to.

[QUOTE="sexy_chimp"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="shoeman12"][QUOTE="excelR83"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"]

Sony really cares about their customers.

Remember when the PS2 scratched discs and Sony replied "Our system doesn't scratch disks, people do"

Sony cares a lot.

Ragnarok1051

Remember when millions of 360's broke down, Microsoft lost 1 billion dollars, and Peter Moore said "things break"?
Microsoft cares a lot.

Fanboys, /sigh

at least they aknowledged the problem and extended the warranty to 3 years unlike sony with the dre's.

The only reason M$ did that was so they wouldn't get sued.

So Sony WANTED to be sued? :?

Sony tried to get away with it but they didn't. M$ decided to refurb before they really got sued and the real bad press started to roll in.

You gotta admit though that what Microsoft is doing is a lot better than what Sony did.

Microsoft is taking a huge hit for the repair costs, which is the right thing to do, and Sony tried to get away with it and blame it on the customerto save money.

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="shoeman12"][QUOTE="excelR83"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"]

Sony really cares about their customers.

Remember when the PS2 scratched discs and Sony replied "Our system doesn't scratch disks, people do"

Sony cares a lot.

sexy_chimp

Remember when millions of 360's broke down, Microsoft lost 1 billion dollars, and Peter Moore said "things break"?
Microsoft cares a lot.

Fanboys, /sigh

at least they aknowledged the problem and extended the warranty to 3 years unlike sony with the dre's.

The only reason M$ did that was so they wouldn't get sued.

So Sony WANTED to be sued? :?

Sony tried to get away with it but they didn't. M$ decided to refurb before they really got sued and the real bad press started to roll in.

You gotta admit though that what Microsoft is doing is a lot better than what Sony did.

Microsoft is taking a huge hit for the repair costs, which is the right thing to do, and Sony tried to get away with it and blame it on the customerto save money.

They are both wrong. I am leaning more toward M$ because by now the problem should be fixed.

[QUOTE="sexy_chimp"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="shoeman12"][QUOTE="excelR83"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"]

Sony really cares about their customers.

Remember when the PS2 scratched discs and Sony replied "Our system doesn't scratch disks, people do"

Sony cares a lot.

Ragnarok1051

Remember when millions of 360's broke down, Microsoft lost 1 billion dollars, and Peter Moore said "things break"?
Microsoft cares a lot.

Fanboys, /sigh

at least they aknowledged the problem and extended the warranty to 3 years unlike sony with the dre's.

The only reason M$ did that was so they wouldn't get sued.

So Sony WANTED to be sued? :?

Sony tried to get away with it but they didn't. M$ decided to refurb before they really got sued and the real bad press started to roll in.

You gotta admit though that what Microsoft is doing is a lot better than what Sony did.

Microsoft is taking a huge hit for the repair costs, which is the right thing to do, and Sony tried to get away with it and blame it on the customerto save money.

They are both wrong. I am leaning more toward M$ because by now the problem should be fixed.

At least Microsoft is fixing the problem. They are fixing 360s for free, and are going to fix the problem eventually. Sony made you buy a new one and never fixed the problem.

At least Microsoft is fixing the problem. They are fixing 360s for free, and are going to fix the problem eventually. Sony made you buy a new one and never fixed the problem.

Obviously you and I have different opinions on this. I believe M$ has a bigger problem with theirs then with what Sony had with theirs. As far as I know you yourself could fix the PS2, but you can't fix the 360.

Ragnarok1051

At least Microsoft is fixing the problem. They are fixing 360s for free, and are going to fix the problem eventually. Sony made you buy a new one and never fixed the problem.

Obviously you and I have different opinions on this. I believe M$ has a bigger problem with theirs then with what Sony had with theirs. As far as I know you yourself could fix the PS2, but you can't fix the 360.

I'm just saying morally, Microsoft is doing the better thing.

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="shoeman12"][QUOTE="excelR83"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"]

Sony really cares about their customers.

Remember when the PS2 scratched discs and Sony replied "Our system doesn't scratch disks, people do"

Sony cares a lot.

sexy_chimp

Remember when millions of 360's broke down, Microsoft lost 1 billion dollars, and Peter Moore said "things break"?
Microsoft cares a lot.

Fanboys, /sigh

at least they aknowledged the problem and extended the warranty to 3 years unlike sony with the dre's.

The only reason M$ did that was so they wouldn't get sued.

So Sony WANTED to be sued? :?

Sony tried to get away with it but they didn't. M$ decided to refurb before they really got sued and the real bad press started to roll in.

You gotta admit though that what Microsoft is doing is a lot better than what Sony did.

Microsoft is taking a huge hit for the repair costs, which is the right thing to do, and Sony tried to get away with it and blame it on the customerto save money.

They are both wrong. I am leaning more toward M$ because by now the problem should be fixed.

At least Microsoft is fixing the problem. They are fixing 360s for free, and are going to fix the problem eventually. Sony made you buy a new one and never fixed the problem.

This goes way beyond fanboyism, you really need to face up to it. MS ISN'T FIXING THE PROBLEM!! Fixing the problem is so the console doesn't break again. PS2's DRE problem was solved, and MS RROD is a lot more of an epidemic than that.

Stop trying to think that there's a parallel between PS2s success and DRE and MS' RROD.

Consoles breaking in the first place only hurt the console's quality status!!

They are NOT fixing the problem when the 360 comes back to people "repaired" and it still breaks! Its happened to many reviewers on blog sites and major gaming sites. How can you even ignore this?! Kotaku's just got their refurbished one back last week only to have it break down again!

This goes way beyond fanboyism, you really need to face up to it. MS ISN'T FIXING THE PROBLEM!! Fixing the problem is so the console doesn't break again. PS2's DRE problem was solved, and MS RROD is a lot more of an epidemic than that.

Stop trying to think that there's a parallel between PS2s success and DRE and MS' RROD.

Consoles breaking in the first place only hurt the console's quality status!!

thedarkomen

First of all, I'm not a fanboy, I've never owned a Microsoft console so stop assuming that.

Microsoft IS fixing the problem, just not very quickly. They are eventually going to release a new 360 that doesn't break. Sony NEVER fixed the problems on the PS2. Not only that, if your PS2 had problems, you had to buy a new one. If your Xbox has problems, they repair it for free.

I'll make a comparison:

Let's say I punched you in the nose. Which option would be the nicer thing to do:

A) Apologize to you, help you up, and give youa tissue for your bloody nose (What Microsoft is doing)

B) Laugh at you then walk away (What Sony is doing)

[QUOTE="sexy_chimp"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="shoeman12"][QUOTE="excelR83"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"]

Sony really cares about their customers.

Remember when the PS2 scratched discs and Sony replied "Our system doesn't scratch disks, people do"

Sony cares a lot.

thedarkomen

Remember when millions of 360's broke down, Microsoft lost 1 billion dollars, and Peter Moore said "things break"?
Microsoft cares a lot.

Fanboys, /sigh

at least they aknowledged the problem and extended the warranty to 3 years unlike sony with the dre's.

The only reason M$ did that was so they wouldn't get sued.

So Sony WANTED to be sued? :?

Sony tried to get away with it but they didn't. M$ decided to refurb before they really got sued and the real bad press started to roll in.

You gotta admit though that what Microsoft is doing is a lot better than what Sony did.

Microsoft is taking a huge hit for the repair costs, which is the right thing to do, and Sony tried to get away with it and blame it on the customerto save money.

They are both wrong. I am leaning more toward M$ because by now the problem should be fixed.

At least Microsoft is fixing the problem. They are fixing 360s for free, and are going to fix the problem eventually. Sony made you buy a new one and never fixed the problem.

This goes way beyond fanboyism, you really need to face up to it. MS ISN'T FIXING THE PROBLEM!! Fixing the problem is so the console doesn't break again. PS2's DRE problem was solved, and MS RROD is a lot more of an epidemic than that.

Stop trying to think that there's a parallel between PS2s success and DRE and MS' RROD.

Consoles breaking in the first place only hurt the console's quality status!!

Just want to point out.... I like how the guy above says...

"At least Microsoft is fixing the problem. "

Then he says .....

"...and are going to fix the problem eventually."

LOL :)

[QUOTE="thedarkomen"]They are NOT fixing the problem when the 360 comes back to people "repaired" and it still breaks! Its happened to many reviewers on blog sites and major gaming sites. How can you even ignore this?! Kotaku's just got their refurbished one back last week only to have it break down again!

This goes way beyond fanboyism, you really need to face up to it. MS ISN'T FIXING THE PROBLEM!! Fixing the problem is so the console doesn't break again. PS2's DRE problem was solved, and MS RROD is a lot more of an epidemic than that.

Stop trying to think that there's a parallel between PS2s success and DRE and MS' RROD.

Consoles breaking in the first place only hurt the console's quality status!!

sexy_chimp

First of all, I'm not a fanboy, I've never owned a Microsoft console so stop assuming that.

Microsoft IS fixing the problem, just not very quickly. They are eventually going to release a new 360 that doesn't break. Sony NEVER fixed the problems on the PS2. Not only that, if your PS2 had problems, you had to buy a new one. If your Xbox has problems, they repair it for free.

I'll make a comparison:

Let's say I punched you in the nose. Which option would be the nicer thing to do:

A) Apologize to you, help you up, and give youa tissue for your bloody nose (What Microsoft is doing)

B) Laugh at you then walk away (What Sony is doing)

[QUOTE="sexy_chimp"][QUOTE="thedarkomen"]They are NOT fixing the problem when the 360 comes back to people "repaired" and it still breaks! Its happened to many reviewers on blog sites and major gaming sites. How can you even ignore this?! Kotaku's just got their refurbished one back last week only to have it break down again!

This goes way beyond fanboyism, you really need to face up to it. MS ISN'T FIXING THE PROBLEM!! Fixing the problem is so the console doesn't break again. PS2's DRE problem was solved, and MS RROD is a lot more of an epidemic than that.

Stop trying to think that there's a parallel between PS2s success and DRE and MS' RROD.

Consoles breaking in the first place only hurt the console's quality status!!

gamenux

First of all, I'm not a fanboy, I've never owned a Microsoft console so stop assuming that.

Microsoft IS fixing the problem, just not very quickly. They are eventually going to release a new 360 that doesn't break. Sony NEVER fixed the problems on the PS2. Not only that, if your PS2 had problems, you had to buy a new one. If your Xbox has problems, they repair it for free.

I'll make a comparison:

Let's say I punched you in the nose. Which option would be the nicer thing to do:

A) Apologize to you, help you up, and give youa tissue for your bloody nose (What Microsoft is doing)

B) Laugh at you then walk away (What Sony is doing)

At least they're TRYING to fix it.

I would've actually bought a 360 if this wasn't the case. Who wants to buy a potential system that's going to break down, and going to get fixed, only to have to break 5 minutes later.

I don't care how many cool games it gets.

[QUOTE="sexy_chimp"][QUOTE="thedarkomen"]They are NOT fixing the problem when the 360 comes back to people "repaired" and it still breaks! Its happened to many reviewers on blog sites and major gaming sites. How can you even ignore this?! Kotaku's just got their refurbished one back last week only to have it break down again!

This goes way beyond fanboyism, you really need to face up to it. MS ISN'T FIXING THE PROBLEM!! Fixing the problem is so the console doesn't break again. PS2's DRE problem was solved, and MS RROD is a lot more of an epidemic than that.

Stop trying to think that there's a parallel between PS2s success and DRE and MS' RROD.

Consoles breaking in the first place only hurt the console's quality status!!

gamenux

First of all, I'm not a fanboy, I've never owned a Microsoft console so stop assuming that.

Microsoft IS fixing the problem, just not very quickly. They are eventually going to release a new 360 that doesn't break. Sony NEVER fixed the problems on the PS2. Not only that, if your PS2 had problems, you had to buy a new one. If your Xbox has problems, they repair it for free.

I'll make a comparison:

Let's say I punched you in the nose. Which option would be the nicer thing to do:

A) Apologize to you, help you up, and give youa tissue for your bloody nose (What Microsoft is doing)

B) Laugh at you then walk away (What Sony is doing)

Sony did B and got away with it. Microsoft screwed up big time, obviously, but they are at least fixing it.

[QUOTE="gamenux"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"][QUOTE="thedarkomen"]They are NOT fixing the problem when the 360 comes back to people "repaired" and it still breaks! Its happened to many reviewers on blog sites and major gaming sites. How can you even ignore this?! Kotaku's just got their refurbished one back last week only to have it break down again!

This goes way beyond fanboyism, you really need to face up to it. MS ISN'T FIXING THE PROBLEM!! Fixing the problem is so the console doesn't break again. PS2's DRE problem was solved, and MS RROD is a lot more of an epidemic than that.

Stop trying to think that there's a parallel between PS2s success and DRE and MS' RROD.

Consoles breaking in the first place only hurt the console's quality status!!

Brmarlin

First of all, I'm not a fanboy, I've never owned a Microsoft console so stop assuming that.

Microsoft IS fixing the problem, just not very quickly. They are eventually going to release a new 360 that doesn't break. Sony NEVER fixed the problems on the PS2. Not only that, if your PS2 had problems, you had to buy a new one. If your Xbox has problems, they repair it for free.

I'll make a comparison:

Let's say I punched you in the nose. Which option would be the nicer thing to do:

A) Apologize to you, help you up, and give youa tissue for your bloody nose (What Microsoft is doing)

B) Laugh at you then walk away (What Sony is doing)

At least they're TRYING to fix it.

Now that is more fair statement to say about MS. In the meantime, until the RROD is confirmed fix either using the 65nm or soemthing else, I won't touch a 360.My 2 xbox (with no warranty) is more durable than a 360.

[QUOTE="Brmarlin"][QUOTE="gamenux"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"][QUOTE="thedarkomen"]They are NOT fixing the problem when the 360 comes back to people "repaired" and it still breaks! Its happened to many reviewers on blog sites and major gaming sites. How can you even ignore this?! Kotaku's just got their refurbished one back last week only to have it break down again!

This goes way beyond fanboyism, you really need to face up to it. MS ISN'T FIXING THE PROBLEM!! Fixing the problem is so the console doesn't break again. PS2's DRE problem was solved, and MS RROD is a lot more of an epidemic than that.

Stop trying to think that there's a parallel between PS2s success and DRE and MS' RROD.

Consoles breaking in the first place only hurt the console's quality status!!

gamenux

First of all, I'm not a fanboy, I've never owned a Microsoft console so stop assuming that.

Microsoft IS fixing the problem, just not very quickly. They are eventually going to release a new 360 that doesn't break. Sony NEVER fixed the problems on the PS2. Not only that, if your PS2 had problems, you had to buy a new one. If your Xbox has problems, they repair it for free.

I'll make a comparison:

Let's say I punched you in the nose. Which option would be the nicer thing to do:

A) Apologize to you, help you up, and give youa tissue for your bloody nose (What Microsoft is doing)

B) Laugh at you then walk away (What Sony is doing)

At least they're TRYING to fix it.

Now that is more fair statement to say about MS. In the meantime, until the RROD is confirmed fix either using the 65nm or soemthing else, I won't touch a 360.My 2 xbox (with no warranty) is more durable than a 360.

What?!?! That's exactly what I've been saying the whole time.

[QUOTE="gamenux"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"][QUOTE="thedarkomen"]They are NOT fixing the problem when the 360 comes back to people "repaired" and it still breaks! Its happened to many reviewers on blog sites and major gaming sites. How can you even ignore this?! Kotaku's just got their refurbished one back last week only to have it break down again!

This goes way beyond fanboyism, you really need to face up to it. MS ISN'T FIXING THE PROBLEM!! Fixing the problem is so the console doesn't break again. PS2's DRE problem was solved, and MS RROD is a lot more of an epidemic than that.

Stop trying to think that there's a parallel between PS2s success and DRE and MS' RROD.

Consoles breaking in the first place only hurt the console's quality status!!

sexy_chimp

First of all, I'm not a fanboy, I've never owned a Microsoft console so stop assuming that.

Microsoft IS fixing the problem, just not very quickly. They are eventually going to release a new 360 that doesn't break. Sony NEVER fixed the problems on the PS2. Not only that, if your PS2 had problems, you had to buy a new one. If your Xbox has problems, they repair it for free.

I'll make a comparison:

Let's say I punched you in the nose. Which option would be the nicer thing to do:

A) Apologize to you, help you up, and give youa tissue for your bloody nose (What Microsoft is doing)

B) Laugh at you then walk away (What Sony is doing)

Sony did B and got away with it. Microsoft screwed up big time, obviously, but they are at least fixing it.

I wasn't in the ps1 or ps2-era cause I was gaming on PC. Got 2 xbox for xbmc though.My bro got a ps2 for several years. I played it from time to time and it is knock on wood.

MS: "1 billion consumers"

MS: "Things break!"

[QUOTE="sexy_chimp"][QUOTE="gamenux"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"][QUOTE="thedarkomen"]They are NOT fixing the problem when the 360 comes back to people "repaired" and it still breaks! Its happened to many reviewers on blog sites and major gaming sites. How can you even ignore this?! Kotaku's just got their refurbished one back last week only to have it break down again!

This goes way beyond fanboyism, you really need to face up to it. MS ISN'T FIXING THE PROBLEM!! Fixing the problem is so the console doesn't break again. PS2's DRE problem was solved, and MS RROD is a lot more of an epidemic than that.

Stop trying to think that there's a parallel between PS2s success and DRE and MS' RROD.

Consoles breaking in the first place only hurt the console's quality status!!

gamenux

First of all, I'm not a fanboy, I've never owned a Microsoft console so stop assuming that.

Microsoft IS fixing the problem, just not very quickly. They are eventually going to release a new 360 that doesn't break. Sony NEVER fixed the problems on the PS2. Not only that, if your PS2 had problems, you had to buy a new one. If your Xbox has problems, they repair it for free.

I'll make a comparison:

Let's say I punched you in the nose. Which option would be the nicer thing to do:

A) Apologize to you, help you up, and give youa tissue for your bloody nose (What Microsoft is doing)

B) Laugh at you then walk away (What Sony is doing)

Sony did B and got away with it. Microsoft screwed up big time, obviously, but they are at least fixing it.

I wasn't in the ps1 or ps2-era cause I was gaming on PC. Got 2 xbox for xbmc though.My bro got a ps2 for several years. I played it from time to time and it is knock on wood.

Uh, that's one PS2. There are people with Xbox 360's from launch that still work, does that mean it's a reliable piece of hardware? No.

MS: "1 billion consumers"

MS: "Things break!"

ff7isnumbaone

It is not that THINGS BREAK, it is just that it breaks too soon compared to other similar electronics.

hey now lets not forget about "DISK READ ERROR"

MS at least acknowledged the problem and compensated for it while Sony ignored it until it was forced to own up to the problem, in this case, i'll take the lesser of two evils

[QUOTE="gamenux"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"][QUOTE="gamenux"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"][QUOTE="thedarkomen"]They are NOT fixing the problem when the 360 comes back to people "repaired" and it still breaks! Its happened to many reviewers on blog sites and major gaming sites. How can you even ignore this?! Kotaku's just got their refurbished one back last week only to have it break down again!

This goes way beyond fanboyism, you really need to face up to it. MS ISN'T FIXING THE PROBLEM!! Fixing the problem is so the console doesn't break again. PS2's DRE problem was solved, and MS RROD is a lot more of an epidemic than that.

Stop trying to think that there's a parallel between PS2s success and DRE and MS' RROD.

Consoles breaking in the first place only hurt the console's quality status!!

sexy_chimp

First of all, I'm not a fanboy, I've never owned a Microsoft console so stop assuming that.

Microsoft IS fixing the problem, just not very quickly. They are eventually going to release a new 360 that doesn't break. Sony NEVER fixed the problems on the PS2. Not only that, if your PS2 had problems, you had to buy a new one. If your Xbox has problems, they repair it for free.

I'll make a comparison:

Let's say I punched you in the nose. Which option would be the nicer thing to do:

A) Apologize to you, help you up, and give youa tissue for your bloody nose (What Microsoft is doing)

B) Laugh at you then walk away (What Sony is doing)

Sony did B and got away with it. Microsoft screwed up big time, obviously, but they are at least fixing it.

I wasn't in the ps1 or ps2-era cause I was gaming on PC. Got 2 xbox for xbmc though.My bro got a ps2 for several years. I played it from time to time and it is knock on wood.

Uh, that's one PS2. There are people with Xbox 360's from launch that still work, does that mean it's a reliable piece of hardware? No.

hey now lets not forget about "DISK READ ERROR"

MS at least acknowledged the problem and compensated for it while Sony ignored it until it was forced to own up to the problem, in this case, i'll take the lesser of two evils

zidane345

Actually, Sony never owned up to the problem.

[QUOTE="sexy_chimp"][QUOTE="gamenux"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"][QUOTE="gamenux"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"][QUOTE="thedarkomen"]They are NOT fixing the problem when the 360 comes back to people "repaired" and it still breaks! Its happened to many reviewers on blog sites and major gaming sites. How can you even ignore this?! Kotaku's just got their refurbished one back last week only to have it break down again!

This goes way beyond fanboyism, you really need to face up to it. MS ISN'T FIXING THE PROBLEM!! Fixing the problem is so the console doesn't break again. PS2's DRE problem was solved, and MS RROD is a lot more of an epidemic than that.

Stop trying to think that there's a parallel between PS2s success and DRE and MS' RROD.

Consoles breaking in the first place only hurt the console's quality status!!

gamenux

First of all, I'm not a fanboy, I've never owned a Microsoft console so stop assuming that.

Microsoft IS fixing the problem, just not very quickly. They are eventually going to release a new 360 that doesn't break. Sony NEVER fixed the problems on the PS2. Not only that, if your PS2 had problems, you had to buy a new one. If your Xbox has problems, they repair it for free.

I'll make a comparison:

Let's say I punched you in the nose. Which option would be the nicer thing to do:

A) Apologize to you, help you up, and give youa tissue for your bloody nose (What Microsoft is doing)

B) Laugh at you then walk away (What Sony is doing)

Sony did B and got away with it. Microsoft screwed up big time, obviously, but they are at least fixing it.

I wasn't in the ps1 or ps2-era cause I was gaming on PC. Got 2 xbox for xbmc though.My bro got a ps2 for several years. I played it from time to time and it is knock on wood.

Uh, that's one PS2. There are people with Xbox 360's from launch that still work, does that mean it's a reliable piece of hardware? No.

That's not the point I'm trying to make. I'm not arguing which problem is worse. A problem is a problem and it should be fixed. Sony never did, Microsoft is.

So in this case:

Microsoft > Sony

MS has a 3 year warenty. I hear all the time that a persons 360 breaks they send it in and then it breaks again. and again.

So if this is true then MS system is only going to last 3 years from when you bought it. And then your going to have to pay another 360.

I have never had ANY of my systems break down and had them for more than 3 years!

[QUOTE="gamenux"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"][QUOTE="gamenux"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"][QUOTE="gamenux"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"][QUOTE="thedarkomen"]They are NOT fixing the problem when the 360 comes back to people "repaired" and it still breaks! Its happened to many reviewers on blog sites and major gaming sites. How can you even ignore this?! Kotaku's just got their refurbished one back last week only to have it break down again!

This goes way beyond fanboyism, you really need to face up to it. MS ISN'T FIXING THE PROBLEM!! Fixing the problem is so the console doesn't break again. PS2's DRE problem was solved, and MS RROD is a lot more of an epidemic than that.

Stop trying to think that there's a parallel between PS2s success and DRE and MS' RROD.

Consoles breaking in the first place only hurt the console's quality status!!

sexy_chimp

First of all, I'm not a fanboy, I've never owned a Microsoft console so stop assuming that.

Microsoft IS fixing the problem, just not very quickly. They are eventually going to release a new 360 that doesn't break. Sony NEVER fixed the problems on the PS2. Not only that, if your PS2 had problems, you had to buy a new one. If your Xbox has problems, they repair it for free.

I'll make a comparison:

Let's say I punched you in the nose. Which option would be the nicer thing to do:

A) Apologize to you, help you up, and give youa tissue for your bloody nose (What Microsoft is doing)

B) Laugh at you then walk away (What Sony is doing)

Sony did B and got away with it. Microsoft screwed up big time, obviously, but they are at least fixing it.

I wasn't in the ps1 or ps2-era cause I was gaming on PC. Got 2 xbox for xbmc though.My bro got a ps2 for several years. I played it from time to time and it is knock on wood.

Uh, that's one PS2. There are people with Xbox 360's from launch that still work, does that mean it's a reliable piece of hardware? No.

That's not the point I'm trying to make. I'm not arguing which problem is worse. A problem is a problem and it should be fixed. Sony never did, Microsoft is.

So in this case:

Microsoft > Sony

Luckily, I never owned a ps2 myselfand my brother's ps2 still works.

Just to be fair. MS did ditch the xbox. Hopefully it won't happen again with the 360. Good luck people.

I do notbuy launch stuff. I actually wait till the reports are all in before buying. As for this gen, ps3 fits what I am looking for. Quality, variety, dvd (yeah, I don't have a standalone dvd player except for the one in my laptop), graphics,free online gaming, 3 consoles for the price of 1 (BC), The only bad was the games (number of games that are already out)and price. But that should change in the next 4-6 months. We'll see....

MS has a 3 year warenty. I hear all the time that a persons 360 breaks they send it in and then it breaks again. and again.

So if this is true then MS system is only going to last 3 years from when you bought it. And then your going to have to pay another 360.

I have never had ANY of my systems break down and had them for more than 3 years!

Shomb22

Hopefully "enough" people will complain again and they would "hopefully" but "not willingly" give everyone a 4 year warranty instead.