Sony has always been right about 4-D.

All consoles techically are in 4-D.

We have 3-D, which is basically measurments for length, width, and height. What is the 4th measurment we have? Time.

Since all consoles have measurments of length, width, and height, they are all 3-D. But they are also confined within the measurment of time, thus making them 4-D.

nice try but the humour fails. :)

i have no idea what you talking about.

Lmao. You guys are harsh :P

Time is not a dimension.IronBass

Yes it is. A dimension is basically anything you can measure. Time really does not exist, we humans just came up with a measurment system for it.

You can say the NES is near 25 years old so therefore it has always been 4-D because you can meausre its time length here.

[QUOTE="IronBass"]Time is not a dimension.Ninten007

Yes it is. A dimension is basically anything you can measure. Time really does not exist, we humans just came up with a measurment system for it.

You can say the NES is near 25 years old so therefore it has always been 4-D because you can meausre its time length here.

I see your bringing the realm of physics into the topic.

Time is not a dimension.IronBass

This depends on how you interpret dimension. If the dimensions are the directions through which and object can move through space (X, Y, & Z axis), then time is, indeed, a dimension, since an object not only moves through space along the X, Y, Z axis, but also through time. Without time, there could be no motion through space, since motion is a direct consequence of time. An object in motion has a speed. Speed is a derivation of time; specifically, as the distance travelled in a given amount of time. Combine direction of movement and speed and you get velocity.

Time is not a dimension.IronBass

Yes, it's the 4th dimension.

Time isn't the fourth dimension.Sollet

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_dimension

That is.

Time is not a dimension.IronBass

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Quote of 2010?

Some guy named Albert Einstein disagrees.

The term dimension has a specific mathematical meaning: "In mathematics the dimension of a space is roughly defined as the minimum number of coordinates needed to specify every point within it". A minimum of four coordinates are needed to specify every event in spacetime, so spacetime is a four-dimensional space. The fact one coordinate is different from the other three does not make it any less of a coordinate.

Having said that, you are absolutely correct that time is fundamentally different than space as can be seen from the Minkowski metric: ds²=-c²dt²+dx²+dy²+dz². Time is still a dimension, but that minus sign definitely singles it out.

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http://www.jimloy.com/physics/4d.htm

Time, The Fourth Dimension

We live in a world of three dimensions. Well, we only perceive three dimensions. We can hypothesize many more dimensions. But, they are difficult to imagine.

Because of Einstein, we often call time the fourth dimension. Special relativity shows that time behaves surprisingly like the three spatial dimensions. The Lorenz equations show this. Length contracts as speed increases. Time expands as speed increases.

Scientists have been graphing time, as if it were a length, for hundreds of years. To the left is a typical graph, showing two things in motion at the same speed, one to the left and one to the right. Time never behaves exactly like a spatial dimension. You cannot go backward in time. And you normally cannot go forward at different rates. But, there are surprising parallels. For some purposes, it is handy to call time a fourth dimension. For other purposes, it is not.

Pretend, for a moment, that there are more than three spatial dimensions. What is a four or five-dimensional cube like? It is hard to visualize. But, we can make a few deductions about such an object. What if a 5-dimensional cube is 2 centimeters on a side, what is its 5-dimensional volume? Well, we can easily generalize from the first three dimensions. A 2x2 square is 4 (2x2) square centimeters in area. A 2x2x2 cube is 8 (2x2x2) cubic centimeters in volume. A 2x2x2x2x2 5-dimensional cube is 32 centimeters-to-the-5th-power in 5-dimensional volume. None of that can be visualized. But, it makes sense. What is the distance between two points in 5-space? You can easily deduce a 5-dimensional Pythagorean Theorem.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_dimension

I'm waiting for 5-D.

[QUOTE="IronBass"]Time is not a dimension.SolidTy

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Quote of 2010?

The term dimension has a specific mathematical meaning: "In mathematics the dimension of a space is roughly defined as the minimum number of coordinates needed to specify every point within it". A minimum of four coordinates are needed to specify every event in spacetime, so spacetime is a four-dimensional space. The fact one coordinate is different from the other three does not make it any less of a coordinate.

Having said that, you are absolutely correct that time is fundamentally different than space as can be seen from the Minkowski metric: ds²=-c²dt²+dx²+dy²+dz². Time is still a dimension, but that minus sign definitely singles it out.

Solid....my brain hurts ):

Time isn't the fourth dimension.Sollet

Time isn't the fourth dimension.Sollet

Is time measured or not? If it is measured, it is a dimension.

You guys need a lesson in quantum physics.

Any game that was developed in 3-D starting from the early days of the PS1, N64, Saturn, etc are also in 4-D. Why? Because when you play them time will have elapsed until you have beaten it.

So realistically speaking Sony was not lying about it, they were just the first to say it when it has been true for generations.

[QUOTE="Sollet"]Time isn't the fourth dimension.siddhu33

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_dimension

That is.

I agree with you OP, but this is not the place where you post this kind if things. SW will not appreciate it. Post something like... Sony > 360. They will understand that.

:D I love how people say "no it isnt" without backing up their argument at all, even after posts that clearly and scientifically illustrate that it is. Apparently, the average System Warrior knows more about quantum physics than Einstein. Right.

I love how people call Sony liars about the whole 4-D thing when it is basically true.

Nintendo should of have hyped 4-D back when the 64 launched and called it a day. If they had did, hardcore SW gamers would understand the concept better.

I love how people call Sony liars about the whole 4-D thing when it is basically true.

Nintendo should of have hyped 4-D back when the 64 launched and called it a day. If they had did, hardcore SW gamers would understand the concept better.

Ninten007

[QUOTE="IronBass"]Time is not a dimension.Ninten007

Yes it is. A dimension is basically anything you can measure. Time really does not exist, we humans just came up with a measurment system for it.

You can say the NES is near 25 years old so therefore it has always been 4-D because you can meausre its time length here.