Sony has become absolutely ridiculous...

OK, last week we got the article about Sony incorportaing in game XMB, trophies, and a Mii like system.

Today we see patents for a motion controller and a touchscrreen...

I used to love Sony, there were the go to company for innovate consumer electronics (walkman anyone?). Now they are downright stealing from the competition. At what point is sony going to bring something new to the table other than what MS and Nintendo have been doing for years?

Actually, the Mii like system is being developed my Microsoft.

Sony saw that Microsoft had some good things in the 360 and decided to incorporate them into the PS3. Call it stealing or copying if you want, but it makes things better for the gamers.

I'm sorry, wtf? you DO realize that ALL GAMING COMPANIES HAVE TAKEN IDEAS FROM OTHER PEOPLE. Besides that:

Home isnt innovating anything?

My god, I hate threads like this that act as if only one company does this stuff, seriously, LOOK AROUND YOU.

I'm sorry, wtf? you DO realize that ALL GAMING COMPANIES HAVE TAKEN IDEAS FROM OTHER PEOPLE. Besides that:

Home isnt innovating anything?

My god, I hate threads like this that act as if only one company does this stuff, seriously, LOOK AROUND YOU.

ice144

LOL at home being innovative (I wonder what second life is?). I understand that things get emulated... but Sony is taking things to a whole new level.

OK, last week we got the article about Sony incorportaing in game XMB, trophies, and a Mii like system.

Today we see patents for a motion controller and a touchscrreen...

I used to love Sony, there were the go to company for innovate consumer electronics (walkman anyone?). Now they are downright stealing from the competition. At what point is sony going to bring something new to the table other than what MS and Nintendo have been doing for years?

mfp16

So your saying its not ok for sony to copy others but when microsoft does it, its ok? And dont even say they dont copy, because every company copies. Its just who does it the best.

I think you have your companies and your innovations mixed up.Couth_

please enlighten me... what has sony brought to the table this generation?

[QUOTE="Couth_"]I think you have your companies and your innovations mixed up.mfp16

please enlighten me... what has sony brought to the table this generation?

Blu-ray?

Answer me this: When has Sony ever innovated in games?deathtoallgods

When's MS ever been innovative? They've copied everything for 24+ years.

Home isnt innovating anything?

ice144

Not really. There have been similar services available to PC users for years.

[QUOTE="deathtoallgods"]Answer me this: When has Sony ever innovated in games?DJCUEBALL

When's MS ever been innovative? They've copied everything for 24+ years.

that is just a ridiculous comment. Are you seriously suggesting that MS hasn't brought new ideas to the world of technology? Yes yes, we all saw priates of silicon valley... we know about the mouse... but give me a break.

[QUOTE="mfp16"]

[QUOTE="Couth_"]I think you have your companies and your innovations mixed up.spidermonkey11

please enlighten me... what has sony brought to the table this generation?

Blu-ray?

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An exclusive next gen HD Format.

[QUOTE="Couth_"]I think you have your companies and your innovations mixed up.mfp16

please enlighten me... what has sony brought to the table this generation?

Sony started with a game console long before M$ even thought about even getting into gaming. Many of the things M$ has released in hardware has been around for years by other companies. The 360 uses hardware that's about 10 years old basicly while Sony is using hardware that is so new that they had to push the release of the PS3 back until the bugs were worked out.

[QUOTE="mfp16"]

[QUOTE="Couth_"]I think you have your companies and your innovations mixed up.jimm895

please enlighten me... what has sony brought to the table this generation?

Sony started with a game console long before M$ even thought about even getting into gaming. Many of the things M$ has released in hardware has been around for years by other companies. The 360 uses hardware that's about 10 years old basicly while Sony is using hardware that is so new that they had to push the release of the PS3 back until the bugs were worked out.

I'm looking through the response... i'm still looking for innovation in there...

Touch screen is probably for PSP...

MS and Sony are ripping of Ninty bad man.

[QUOTE="ice144"]

I'm sorry, wtf? you DO realize that ALL GAMING COMPANIES HAVE TAKEN IDEAS FROM OTHER PEOPLE. Besides that:

Home isnt innovating anything?

My god, I hate threads like this that act as if only one company does this stuff, seriously, LOOK AROUND YOU.

mfp16

LOL at home being innovative (I wonder what second life is?). I understand that things get emulated... but Sony is taking things to a whole new level.

You saying that means

- Microsoft copyied the PC with online gaming

- Microsoft copyied Sony by making a controller with 2 analog sticks with rumble

- Microsoft copyied the Dreamcast by putting triggers on a controller

I think you have your companies and your innovations mixed up.Couth_

x2

[QUOTE="jimm895"][QUOTE="mfp16"]

[QUOTE="Couth_"]I think you have your companies and your innovations mixed up.mfp16

please enlighten me... what has sony brought to the table this generation?

Sony started with a game console long before M$ even thought about even getting into gaming. Many of the things M$ has released in hardware has been around for years by other companies. The 360 uses hardware that's about 10 years old basicly while Sony is using hardware that is so new that they had to push the release of the PS3 back until the bugs were worked out.

I'm looking through the response... i'm still looking for innovation in there...

Oh cry about it will ya, how old are you? Innovation Innovation..blah blah blah Who cares, just as long as I get games, I could care less.

Nintendo copied Atari to make gaming consoles.

A F***ing TOUCHSCREEN! I could see the motion controls but this is just ridiculousstarmetroid

MS's table top computer with multi touch?

[QUOTE="Couth_"]I think you have your companies and your innovations mixed up.mfp16

please enlighten me... what has sony brought to the table this generation?

A reliable console you can play for more then 3 months. This thread is an epic failure!

Today we see patents for a motion controller and a touchscrreen...

mfp16

Link to these patents?

You got it all wrong. It's okay for companies to copy each other. It's how ideas develop. It's the fact that Sony COMPLETELY copies and doesn't even try to make their own way of doing things or innovating. That's why you should be furious with Sony.TMontana1004

Rumble, they were the first to implement rumble into the controller and not as a periphial item.

They were the first to use the DVD format into the PS2

They invented the eye toy, a rip off of the webcam, and people enjoy those.

They were the first to use Memory cards

[QUOTE="TMontana1004"]You got it all wrong. It's okay for companies to copy each other. It's how ideas develop. It's the fact that Sony COMPLETELY copies and doesn't even try to make their own way of doing things or innovating. That's why you should be furious with Sony.steelers89

Rumble, they were the first to implement rumble into the controller and not as a periphial item.

They were the first to use the DVD format into the PS2

They invented the eye toy, a rip off of the webcam, and people enjoy those.

They were the first to use Memory cards

I am talking recently my friend. Sorry I didn't put that in my post.

rumble into the controller and not as a periphial item.

They were the first to use the DVD format into the PS2

They invented the eye toy, a rip off of the webcam, and people enjoy those.

They were the first to use Memory cards

steelers89

I never said they were on top last generation, that is quite obvious... but the other two companies brought something new to the table this generation... sony did not, and now it's just copying what other companies are doing... thats the point of the thread.

You would think some people own sony the way they defend it... the day nintendo or microsoft starts doing that I would do the same for them (and they have in the past)... and you guys should as well. It's fanboyism like defending a position that is just silly which amazes me...

[QUOTE="deathtoallgods"]Answer me this: When has Sony ever innovated in games?DJCUEBALL

When's MS ever been innovative? They've copied everything for 24+ years.

[QUOTE="mfp16"]

Today we see patents for a motion controller and a touchscrreen...

gmastersexay

Link to these patents?

this.

ps3: Blu-ray, HOME, USB ports on the ps3 that actually accepts most things, "true" detachable hard drives

360: achievements(i guess?), many live improvments, in-game messaging.

Wii: motion sensing...can't really think of any right now atm.

Happy? Other people are happy to add to the list.

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[QUOTE="deathtoallgods"]Answer me this: When has Sony ever innovated in games?deathtoallgods

When's MS ever been innovative? They've copied everything for 24+ years.

Well Microsofts first Xbox controller looked similar to the Dreamcast controller, and Xbox Live is a rip off of Seganet.

[QUOTE="mfp16"]

Today we see patents for a motion controller and a touchscrreen...

gmastersexay

Link to these patents?

newest news item on the PS3 page on gamespot.

They were the first to use Memory cards

steelers89

No, that honor goes to Sega. (or at the very least they had them before Sony did)

[QUOTE="deathtoallgods"][QUOTE="DJCUEBALL"]

[QUOTE="deathtoallgods"]Answer me this: When has Sony ever innovated in games?steelers89

When's MS ever been innovative? They've copied everything for 24+ years.

Well Microsofts first Xbox controller looked similar to the Dreamcast controller, and Xbox Live is a rip off of Seganet.

Today we see patents for a motion controller and a touchscrreen...

mfp16

Woah, what?! And we thought EA was bad...

LOL at home being innovative (I wonder what second life is?). I understand that things get emulated... but Sony is taking things to a whole new level.mfp16

The only thing that's "ridiculous" here is your hyperbole.

"Whole new level?" Have you paid any attention to the business world for the past 20 years?

[QUOTE="steelers89"]

rumble into the controller and not as a periphial item.

They were the first to use the DVD format into the PS2

They invented the eye toy, a rip off of the webcam, and people enjoy those.

They were the first to use Memory cards

mfp16

I never said they were on top last generation, that is quite obvious... but the other two companies brought something new to the table this generation... sony did not, and now it's just copying what other companies are doing... thats the point of the thread.

You would think some people own sony the way they defend it... the day nintendo or microsoft starts doing that I would do the same for them (and they have in the past)... and you guys should as well. It's fanboyism like defending a position that is just silly which amazes me...

Blu-ray, a new media format, is not new enough for you?

Being innovative or copying innovations is the same.

It's the consumer who is benefited. Screw the moral "oh this one invented this so it's bad to copy".

Blu-ray, a new media format, is not new enough for you?

dragonpuppy

no, thats a legitimate point... but frankly it doesn't do anything for me. Putting more data on a disc isn't that big a deal to me. Don't give me the you can have bigger games argument... look at lost odyssey, during the course of the 100 hour or so game I had to get up and switch the disk 3 times... big deal. Give me something new that really affects my gaming.

All the systems have copied something from other systems and attempted to make it better. Thats the way businesses work.

The PS1 was the original system with motion sensing controls, not the Wii. You can look it up at a bunch of sites on google. It was dropped for the Playstation 2 because too many owners had complained about the diffuculty. But when Sony heard that the "Revolution" was gonna have motion sensing controls and saw all the hype over it, Sony decided to bring that back.

Lots of people say that the middle button on the PS3 copied the Xbox360. I'll give them that. But, Microsoft had copied Sony in the general features of the Playstaion 2 controller. They both had 2 analog sticks, 4 main buttons, a directional pad, and 4 shoulder buttons. Granted the layout wasn't the same, the general controls remained the same.

And not only that but Microsoft had copied Sony for making a gaming console in the first place. Sony had their first console out years before the original Xbox.

And, if it wasn't for sony, most of our games would probably still be on cartridges. I even think that Nintendo and Sony split because of the fact that Sony wanted to go on with the future and switch over to disks, while Nintendo was still looking at ways for improving the cartridge. Who won that war?

So yeah, I'll give you that Sony has recently copied a lot of things from other systems, but don't they deserve it? Where would gaming be today without Sony?

Uhm, wow. Remember the topics about Microsoft patenting, and many agreeing with them? How ironic.

The Wii controller is actually a rip off of some other company's design. They were in a lawsuit and ended up paying them 25 million because of it. "But T3h W11 is the Inovateive!!!1111!". :lol:Zoso-8

That wasn't for the Wiimote, that was the Gamecube controller. Analscrape made a patent and described a dualshock controller (pretty much what Sony's doing right now patenting touchscreen and motion controls) and sued Nintendo and Microsoft. They didn't sue Sony because it would have been to obvious.

Uhm, wow. Remember the topics about Microsoft patenting, and many agreeing with them? How ironic.

-Karmum-

What did Microsoft patent?

[QUOTE="-Karmum-"]

Uhm, wow. Remember the topics about Microsoft patenting, and many agreeing with them? How ironic.

Eponique

What did Microsoft patent?

[QUOTE="dragonpuppy"]

Blu-ray, a new media format, is not new enough for you?

mfp16

no, thats a legitimate point... but frankly it doesn't do anything for me. Putting more data on a disc isn't that big a deal to me. Don't give me the you can have bigger games argument... look at lost odyssey, during the course of the 100 hour or so game I had to get up and switch the disk 3 times... big deal. Give me something new that really affects my gaming.

I'm sorry, what was it that MS had bought to this gen that was new?