Sony has the best minds of gaming working for them

Hideo Kojima, the creator of the greatest stealth game MGS and now working on the highly enticipated MGS4 exclusive to PS3

Kazunori Yamauchi, the creator of the greatest racing game GT and now working on the highly enticipated GT5 obviously only for PS3

Jason Rubin, the creator of one of the greatest platformers Crash bandicoot & Jak series, now working on Uncharted for PS3, a killer app ofcourse.

David Jaffe,the creator of the greatest adventure game GOW1&2 and will be making his way to PS3

Fumito Ueda, the creator of the most original and inspiring games Ico & SoTC and now working on a highly enticipated PS3 project, nothing is know at this moment

Motomu Toriyama, one of the main people behind the fantastic Final Fantasy games, now working on and directing the up coming PS3 exclusive Final Fantasy 13, a killer app for sure

Ted Price, the creator of the most wacky and amazingly fun game Ratchet & Clank, he also created the first true killer app for PS3 which is RFOM. Now working on a next gen Ratchet & Clank exclusive to PS3.

I'm sure their are probably more but these guys are well known for creating absolutely the greatest games within a genre. Yes their are great developers for Nintendo and Microsoft but you can't deny the fact that Sony has some of the greatest minds working for them.

I concur. Sony's in house studios are superior to the competition.DisPimpin

[QUOTE="DisPimpin"]I concur. Sony's in house studios are superior to the competition.lzorro

Hideo Kojima, the creator of the greatest stealth game MGS and now working on the highly enticipated MGS4 exclusive to PS3

Kazunori Yamauchi, the creator of the greatest racing game GT and now working on the highly enticipated GT5 obviously only for PS3

Jason Rubin, the creator of one of the greatest platformers Crash bandicoot & Jak series, now working on Uncharted for PS3, a killer app ofcourse.

David Jaffe,the creator of the greatest adventure game GOW1&2 and will be making his way to PS3

Fumito Ueda, the creator of the most original and inspiring games Ico & SoTC and now working on a highly enticipated PS3 project, nothing is know at this moment

Motomu Toriyama, one of the main people behind the fantastic Final Fantasy games, now working on and directing the up coming PS3 exclusive Final Fantasy 13, a killer app for sure

Ted Price, the creator of the most wacky and amazingly fun game Ratchet & Clank, he also created the first true killer app for PS3 which is RFOM. Now working on a next gen Ratchet & Clank exclusive to PS3.

I'm sure their are probably more but these guys are well known for creating absolutely the greatest games within a genre. Yes their are great developers for Nintendo and Microsoft but you can't deny the fact that Sony has some of the greatest minds working for them.

AB_Uppercut

Ted Price, the creator of the most wacky and amazingly fun game Ratchet & Clank, he also created the first true killer app for PS3 which is RFOM. AB_Uppercut

Miyamoto is now working for sony?

David Jaffe is a douche-bag, and god of war isn't thee greatest "adventure" game.

These are good minds, but not the best by far.spidey008

[QUOTE="AB_Uppercut"]Ted Price, the creator of the most wacky and amazingly fun game Ratchet & Clank, he also created the first true killer app for PS3 which is RFOM. DaysAirlines

[QUOTE="AB_Uppercut"]Ted Price, the creator of the most wacky and amazingly fun game Ratchet & Clank, he also created the first true killer app for PS3 which is RFOM. DaysAirlines

With cows and their low standards it does not surprise me that they would say that. Anyway everybody in that list is good but they are not the best minds out there.

[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="AB_Uppercut"]Ted Price, the creator of the most wacky and amazingly fun game Ratchet & Clank, he also created the first true killer app for PS3 which is RFOM. Evo310whp

With cows and their low standards it does not surprise me that they would say that.

RFOM might have not been AAA on gamespot but it was the greatest launch game on PS3, sales wise also. A killer app doesn't have to be AAA you know, use you brain next time guys.

Anyway everybody in that list is good but they are not the best minds out there.

Evo310whp

They have created the best games within their genre...

MGS - the greatest stealth game

GT - the greatest racing game

GOW - the greatest aadventure game

J&D, R&C - the greatest platform games

Ico, SoTC - the greatest original games

FF - the greatest RPG's

now tell me those guys are not the greatest games developers

[QUOTE="Evo310whp"]

[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="AB_Uppercut"]Ted Price, the creator of the most wacky and amazingly fun game Ratchet & Clank, he also created the first true killer app for PS3 which is RFOM. AB_Uppercut

With cows and their low standards it does not surprise me that they would say that.

RFOM might have not been AAA on gamespot but it was the greatest launch game on PS3, sales wise also. A killer app doesn't have to be AAA you know, use you brain next time guys.

Anyway everybody in that list is good but they are not the best minds out there.

Evo310whp

They have created the best games within their genre...

MGS - the greatest stealth game

GT - the greatest racing game

GOW - the greatest aadventure game

J&D, R&C - the greatest platform games

Ico, SoTC - the greatest original games

FF - the greatest RPG's

now tell me those guys are not the greatest games developers

[QUOTE="Evo310whp"]

[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="AB_Uppercut"]Ted Price, the creator of the most wacky and amazingly fun game Ratchet & Clank, he also created the first true killer app for PS3 which is RFOM. AB_Uppercut

With cows and their low standards it does not surprise me that they would say that.

1 - RFOM might have not been AAA on gamespot but it was the greatest launch game on PS3, sales wise also. A killer app doesn't have to be AAA you know, use you brain next time guys.

Anyway everybody in that list is good but they are not the best minds out there.

Evo310whp

They have created the best games within their genre...

2 - MGS - the greatest stealth game

3 - GT - the greatest racing game

4 - GOW - the greatest aadventure game

5 - J&D, R&C - the greatest platform games

Ico, SoTC - the greatest original games

6 - FF - the greatest RPG's

now tell me those guys are not the greatest games developers

Hideo Kojima, the creator of the greatest stealth game MGS and now working on the highly enticipated MGS4 exclusive to PS3

Kazunori Yamauchi, the creator of the greatest racing game GT and now working on the highly enticipated GT5 obviously only for PS3

Jason Rubin, the creator of one of the greatest platformers Crash bandicoot & Jak series, now working on Uncharted for PS3, a killer app ofcourse.

David Jaffe,the creator of the greatest adventure game GOW1&2 and will be making his way to PS3

Fumito Ueda, the creator of the most original and inspiring games Ico & SoTC and now working on a highly enticipated PS3 project, nothing is know at this moment

Motomu Toriyama, one of the main people behind the fantastic Final Fantasy games, now working on and directing the up coming PS3 exclusive Final Fantasy 13, a killer app for sure

Ted Price, the creator of the most wacky and amazingly fun game Ratchet & Clank, he also created the first true killer app for PS3 which is RFOM. Now working on a next gen Ratchet & Clank exclusive to PS3.

I'm sure their are probably more but these guys are well known for creating absolutely the greatest games within a genre. Yes their are great developers for Nintendo and Microsoft but you can't deny the fact that Sony has some of the greatest minds working for them.

AB_Uppercut

[QUOTE="AB_Uppercut"]Ted Price, the creator of the most wacky and amazingly fun game Ratchet & Clank, he also created the first true killer app for PS3 which is RFOM. DaysAirlines

agreed. Sony 1st party > MS 1st party and Nintendo(this is debatable).

Gran Turismo series, Jak series, Ratchet series, Sly series, Socom series, Ico, Shadow of the Colossus, God of War, Warhawk, White Knight Story, Heavenly Sword, Resistance, Motorstorm, Twisted Metal and more. xxThyLordxx

Hideo Kojima, the creator of the greatest stealth game MGS and now working on the highly enticipated MGS4 exclusive to PS3

Kazunori Yamauchi, the creator of the greatest racing game GT and now working on the highly enticipated GT5 obviously only for PS3

Jason Rubin, the creator of one of the greatest platformers Crash bandicoot & Jak series, now working on Uncharted for PS3, a killer app ofcourse.

David Jaffe,the creator of the greatest adventure game GOW1&2 and will be making his way to PS3

Fumito Ueda, the creator of the most original and inspiring games Ico & SoTC and now working on a highly enticipated PS3 project, nothing is know at this moment

Motomu Toriyama, one of the main people behind the fantastic Final Fantasy games, now working on and directing the up coming PS3 exclusive Final Fantasy 13, a killer app for sure

Ted Price, the creator of the most wacky and amazingly fun game Ratchet & Clank, he also created the first true killer app for PS3 which is RFOM. Now working on a next gen Ratchet & Clank exclusive to PS3.

I'm sure their are probably more but these guys are well known for creating absolutely the greatest games within a genre. Yes their are great developers for Nintendo and Microsoft but you can't deny the fact that Sony has some of the greatest minds working for them.

AB_Uppercut

seems to me that if they were really that good the development community would have recognized them with some AIAS awards or something...

but alas...:(

kaz can't even get damage in a GT game.... pathetic...:lol:

[QUOTE="xxThyLordxx"]agreed. Sony 1st party > MS 1st party and Nintendo(this is debatable).

Gran Turismo series, Jak series, Ratchet series, Sly series, Socom series, Ico, Shadow of the Colossus, God of War, Warhawk, White Knight Story, Heavenly Sword, Resistance, Motorstorm, Twisted Metal and more. lzorro

Weak list. Some of those guys aren't exclusive to Sony.

Miyamoto PWNS all of them combined.proudeskimo

Amen!

[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="AB_Uppercut"]Ted Price, the creator of the most wacky and amazingly fun game Ratchet & Clank, he also created the first true killer app for PS3 which is RFOM. lawlessx

So the best game that launched with the nGage was a killer app?

I would hardly call David Jaffe a great mind. He may have started the GoW franchise, but...have you ever heard the guy talk about anything other than himself?Svarthek

[QUOTE="lzorro"][QUOTE="xxThyLordxx"]agreed. Sony 1st party > MS 1st party and Nintendo(this is debatable).

Gran Turismo series, Jak series, Ratchet series, Sly series, Socom series, Ico, Shadow of the Colossus, God of War, Warhawk, White Knight Story, Heavenly Sword, Resistance, Motorstorm, Twisted Metal and more. xxThyLordxx

1 - A killer app is a game that pushes a console's sales and justifies buying it, not always the best game available for a console at a given moment. So RFOM is certainly not a killer app, but games like Halo 3, MGS4, FFXIII and others can be.

2 - MGS has a poor stealth implementation, although being a great game. Splinter Cell and Thief smashes it in the stealth department.

3 - Forza>GT. Sorry but that's just the way it is. I'd rather be driving my own customized unique car than to choose one from 10 different Civics.

4 - Ninja Gaiden>GoW

5 - LOL Mario. That's all i have to say.

6 - And FF being greatest the greatest RPG series, maybe if you only count JRPG, and even then it's debatable.
jachichorro

MGS created the stealth genre back in 88 and then they reinvented it in 3D back in 97, since then MGS has been getting better and better with gameplay, story, graphics and sound. I admit Splinter Cell is good but no where as good as MGS plus sales don't lie: MGS sold 6 million+, MGS2 sold 7 million+ and MGS3 sold 4.5 million+. MGS4 will be the pinnecle of the stealth genre

lol, GT was the greatest and the biggest selling game of last generation, it pwns every other racer.

:| umm NG is an action game and I said GOW is the greatest adventure game.

Mario was the platform leader in the 90's but in the turn of the century R&C, J&D are better platformer games, plus Mario has been milked way too much but I believe Mario Galaxy will make Mario great again.

FF is the most well known and respected RPG, so I believe it is the greatest.

MGS created the stealth genre back in 88 and then they reinvented it in 3D back in 97, since then MGS has been getting better and better with gameplay, story, graphics and sound. I admit Splinter Cell is good but no where as good as MGS plus sales don't lie: MGS sold 6 million+, MGS2 sold 7 million+ and MGS3 sold 4.5 million+. MGS4 will be the pinnecle of the stealth genre

lol, GT was the greatest and the biggest selling game of last generation, it pwns every other racer.

:| umm NG is an action game and I said GOW is the greatest adventure game.

Mario was the platform leader in the 90's but in the turn of the century R&C, J&D are better platformer games, plus Mario has been milked way too much but I believe Mario Galaxy will make Mario great again.

FF is the most well known and respected RPG, so I believe it is the greatest.

AB_Uppercut

First, sales =/= quality. Second, he said Splinter cell and thief are better at STEALTH, whereas you countered with MGS being the better overall game, without making any mention to the stealth portions. And third, GOW is an adventure game? :|

[QUOTE="jachichorro"]
1 - A killer app is a game that pushes a console's sales and justifies buying it, not always the best game available for a console at a given moment. So RFOM is certainly not a killer app, but games like Halo 3, MGS4, FFXIII and others can be.

2 - MGS has a poor stealth implementation, although being a great game. Splinter Cell and Thief smashes it in the stealth department.

3 - Forza>GT. Sorry but that's just the way it is. I'd rather be driving my own customized unique car than to choose one from 10 different Civics.

4 - Ninja Gaiden>GoW

5 - LOL Mario. That's all i have to say.

6 - And FF being greatest the greatest RPG series, maybe if you only count JRPG, and even then it's debatable.
AB_Uppercut

MGS created the stealth genre back in 88 and then they reinvented it in 3D back in 97, since then MGS has been getting better and better with gameplay, story, graphics and sound. I admit Splinter Cell is good but no where as good as MGS plus sales don't lie: MGS sold 6 million+, MGS2 sold 7 million+ and MGS3 sold 4.5 million+. MGS4 will be the pinnecle of the stealth genre

lol, GT was the greatest and the biggest selling game of last generation, it pwns every other racer.

:| umm NG is an action game and I said GOW is the greatest adventure game.

Mario was the platform leader in the 90's but in the turn of the century R&C, J&D are better platformer games, plus Mario has been milked way too much but I believe Mario Galaxy will make Mario great again.

FF is the most well known and respected RPG, so I believe it is the greatest.

MGS did not invent the stealth genre... and it's not that much of a stealth game nowadays anyway... Splinter cell buries it for stealthy-ness....

the reviews about GT say different... it's tired....

GOW?  good game.

since you're talking about new platformers, Psychonauts is way better than J&D for that..

FF has been surpassed by many other better rpg...Oblivion comes to mind...;)

[QUOTE="AB_Uppercut"]

[QUOTE="jachichorro"]
1 - A killer app is a game that pushes a console's sales and justifies buying it, not always the best game available for a console at a given moment. So RFOM is certainly not a killer app, but games like Halo 3, MGS4, FFXIII and others can be.

2 - MGS has a poor stealth implementation, although being a great game. Splinter Cell and Thief smashes it in the stealth department.

3 - Forza>GT. Sorry but that's just the way it is. I'd rather be driving my own customized unique car than to choose one from 10 different Civics.

4 - Ninja Gaiden>GoW

5 - LOL Mario. That's all i have to say.

6 - And FF being greatest the greatest RPG series, maybe if you only count JRPG, and even then it's debatable.
tango90101

MGS created the stealth genre back in 88 and then they reinvented it in 3D back in 97, since then MGS has been getting better and better with gameplay, story, graphics and sound. I admit Splinter Cell is good but no where as good as MGS plus sales don't lie: MGS sold 6 million+, MGS2 sold 7 million+ and MGS3 sold 4.5 million+. MGS4 will be the pinnecle of the stealth genre

lol, GT was the greatest and the biggest selling game of last generation, it pwns every other racer.

:| umm NG is an action game and I said GOW is the greatest adventure game.

Mario was the platform leader in the 90's but in the turn of the century R&C, J&D are better platformer games, plus Mario has been milked way too much but I believe Mario Galaxy will make Mario great again.

FF is the most well known and respected RPG, so I believe it is the greatest.

MGS did not invent the stealth genre... and it's not that much of a stealth game nowadays anyway... Splinter cell buries it for stealthy-ness....

the reviews about GT say different... it's tired....

GOW? good game.

since you're talking about new platformers, Psychonauts is way better than J&D for that..

FF has been surpassed by many other better rpg...Oblivion comes to mind...;)

I don't see anyone providing constructive lists that says otherwise. Sony has got one hell of a 1st Party lineup.A2D

I don't see anyone providing constructive lists that says otherwise. Sony has got one hell of a 1st Party lineup.A2D

You have almost no clue what you're talking about.

First, sales =/= quality. Second, he said Splinter cell and thief are better at STEALTH, whereas you countered with MGS being the better overall game, without making any mention to the stealth portions. And third, GOW is an adventure game? :|

shadow_lord_11

*sigh* Kojima finds new ways to implement stealth while Splinter Cell does the same old hide in the dark routine, MGS2 and MGS3 wre completely different in using stealth, one was all about not letting the enemies see you while the other about camouflaging so the enemy don't notice you. Kojima doesn't do the same old stealth routines, he uses new ways to implement stealth.

oh and yes GOW is an adventure game, an epic adventure game.

I don't see anyone providing constructive lists that says otherwise. Sony has got one hell of a 1st Party lineup.A2D

[QUOTE="shadow_lord_11"]You have almost no clue what you're talking about.

First, sales =/= quality. Second, he said Splinter cell and thief are better at STEALTH, whereas you countered with MGS being the better overall game, without making any mention to the stealth portions. And third, GOW is an adventure game? :|

AB_Uppercut

*sigh* Kojima finds new ways to implement stealth while Splinter Cell does the same old hide in the dark routine, MGS2 and MGS3 wre completely different in using stealth, one was all about not letting the enemies see you while the other about camouflaging so the enemy don't notice you. Kojima doesn't do the same old stealth routines, he uses new ways to implement stealth.

oh and yes GOW is an adventure game, an epic adventure game.

[QUOTE="proudeskimo"]Miyamoto PWNS all of them combined.MrDziekuje

Amen!

[QUOTE="shadow_lord_11"]You have almost no clue what you're talking about.

First, sales =/= quality. Second, he said Splinter cell and thief are better at STEALTH, whereas you countered with MGS being the better overall game, without making any mention to the stealth portions. And third, GOW is an adventure game? :|

AB_Uppercut

*sigh* Kojima finds new ways to implement stealth while Splinter Cell does the same old hide in the dark routine, MGS2 and MGS3 wre completely different in using stealth, one was all about not letting the enemies see you while the other about camouflaging so the enemy don't notice you. Kojima doesn't do the same old stealth routines, he uses new ways to implement stealth.

oh and yes GOW is an adventure game, an epic adventure game.

you just proved you have never played splinter cell

kiss your credibility goodbye...;)

[QUOTE="AB_Uppercut"]

[QUOTE="jachichorro"]
1 - A killer app is a game that pushes a console's sales and justifies buying it, not always the best game available for a console at a given moment. So RFOM is certainly not a killer app, but games like Halo 3, MGS4, FFXIII and others can be.

2 - MGS has a poor stealth implementation, although being a great game. Splinter Cell and Thief smashes it in the stealth department.

3 - Forza>GT. Sorry but that's just the way it is. I'd rather be driving my own customized unique car than to choose one from 10 different Civics.

4 - Ninja Gaiden>GoW

5 - LOL Mario. That's all i have to say.

6 - And FF being greatest the greatest RPG series, maybe if you only count JRPG, and even then it's debatable.
tango90101

MGS created the stealth genre back in 88 and then they reinvented it in 3D back in 97, since then MGS has been getting better and better with gameplay, story, graphics and sound. I admit Splinter Cell is good but no where as good as MGS plus sales don't lie: MGS sold 6 million+, MGS2 sold 7 million+ and MGS3 sold 4.5 million+. MGS4 will be the pinnecle of the stealth genre

lol, GT was the greatest and the biggest selling game of last generation, it pwns every other racer.

:| umm NG is an action game and I said GOW is the greatest adventure game.

Mario was the platform leader in the 90's but in the turn of the century R&C, J&D are better platformer games, plus Mario has been milked way too much but I believe Mario Galaxy will make Mario great again.

FF is the most well known and respected RPG, so I believe it is the greatest.

MGS did not invent the stealth genre... and it's not that much of a stealth game nowadays anyway... Splinter cell buries it for stealthy-ness....

the reviews about GT say different... it's tired....

GOW?  good game.

since you're talking about new platformers, Psychonauts is way better than J&D for that..

FF has been surpassed by many other better rpg...Oblivion comes to mind...;)

Final fantasy may have been surpassed but Oblivion cant be really called a RPG if you treat MGS as a non -stealth game

Be fair, Oblivion is a very watered down RPG and FF is more of an rpg than oblivion can be

Oblivion is action adventure with RPG elements

I agree with the rest of it

All 3 consoles and the PC have great gaming minds working for them.  Arguing over which famous game designer is best is going to be more pointless than system wars in general.

[QUOTE="AB_Uppercut"][QUOTE="shadow_lord_11"]You have almost no clue what you're talking about.

First, sales =/= quality. Second, he said Splinter cell and thief are better at STEALTH, whereas you countered with MGS being the better overall game, without making any mention to the stealth portions. And third, GOW is an adventure game? :|

tango90101

*sigh* Kojima finds new ways to implement stealth while Splinter Cell does the same old hide in the dark routine, MGS2 and MGS3 wre completely different in using stealth, one was all about not letting the enemies see you while the other about camouflaging so the enemy don't notice you. Kojima doesn't do the same old stealth routines, he uses new ways to implement stealth.

oh and yes GOW is an adventure game, an epic adventure game.

you just proved you have never played splinter cell

kiss your credibility goodbye...;)

GOW is an epic action adventure game or maybe a hack and slash adventure game...its not an adventure game

An adventure game is Dreamfall,Monkey island etc..

why do people still say stuff like that?

[QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="AB_Uppercut"][QUOTE="shadow_lord_11"]You have almost no clue what you're talking about.

First, sales =/= quality. Second, he said Splinter cell and thief are better at STEALTH, whereas you countered with MGS being the better overall game, without making any mention to the stealth portions. And third, GOW is an adventure game? :|

d_agra

*sigh* Kojima finds new ways to implement stealth while Splinter Cell does the same old hide in the dark routine, MGS2 and MGS3 wre completely different in using stealth, one was all about not letting the enemies see you while the other about camouflaging so the enemy don't notice you. Kojima doesn't do the same old stealth routines, he uses new ways to implement stealth.

oh and yes GOW is an adventure game, an epic adventure game.

you just proved you have never played splinter cell

kiss your credibility goodbye...;)

GOW is an epic action adventure game or maybe a hack and slash adventure game...its not an adventure game

An adventure game is Dreamfall,Monkey island etc..

why do people still say stuff like that?