Sony hints at future third party downgrades for 360......OH NOES!!!!!!!!!!!!

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#1 Eyezonmii
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Games to lead on PS3 as it's "easier to lead with the most powerful, both in terms of AI and graphics".

ps3 final hardware 11 - Sony hints at future third party...

Speaking in a recent interview with VideoGamer.com, Sony Computer Entertainment UK managing director Ray Maguire has suggested that future multi-platform titles from third-parties will be led on PS3 and will have to be downgraded for systems with weaker processors.

Discussing the topic of third-party publisher support on the PS3, Maguire said: "I think we now have an install base which is big enough for any third party to want to develop for. Now the decision making part of development is which do you lead your development on? Is it easier to lead with the most powerful, both in terms of AI and graphics, i.e. PS3 and then just remove part of the functionality for the processors that aren't quite as strong? I would imagine that's very much part of the thought process now from a studio development point of view."

We're already seeing multi-format titles being lead on PS3, including the great looking Mirror's Edge from DICE, but judged on the released demo the game still looks marginally sharper on Xbox 360.

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#2 xxThyLordxx
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on top of that, 360 will have little or no exclusives in 2009 and beyond
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#3 whocares4peace
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Of course he will, yet in the mean time, the PS3 is still getting shoddy ports.
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#4 Eltroz
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This has already been posted. Also it is nothing but more Sony spin. Sad the fanboys still buy into it.

Also even the writter of the arcticle said this-

We're already seeing multi-format titles being lead on PS3, including the great looking Mirror's Edge from DICE, but judged on the released demo the game still looks marginally sharper on Xbox 360.

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on top of that, 360 will have little or no exclusives in 2009 and beyondxxThyLordxx

Be quiet.

And there's already a topic on this. Just more boring Sony PR.

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#6 campbell1874
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So Sony say that games developed for the PS3 will have to be downgraded to go to the 360. So they make Mirror's Edge for the PS3 but instead of being downgraded it looks marginally sharper on the 360. So where is the downgrade?

This just sound like Sony trying to over hype the PS3 again.

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#7 yanni1
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lawl fallout 3?

I dont think sony is in a position to comment on the PS3's "Supossebly Superior" multiplat games at the moment.

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#8 AdrianWerner
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Not likely, Considering most 360 multiplats are also on PC if dev will ever want to pick lead platform based on power he will pick PC, if only on popularity he will pick 360, PS3 will be left behind in most cases as it provides neither
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#9 deactivated-5f956b96dc672
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"if you want both games to look good, then focus on the weaker platform"

--sony

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#10 tony2077ca
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if they want to downgrade they need to upgrade to above 360 lvl first
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#11 LightReflection
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Despite Sony's blatant propaganda, haven't most multi-plats led on the PS3 been the TRUEST multi-plats, the ones with the most equality on both systems? I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, I'm not really versed in all of this.
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#12 EuroMafia
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We'll see how FF13 is on the 360 then, shall we?
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#13 CreepyBacon
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They've been saying it day 1. People use the ps3 as the lead cause it's the weakest, it's easier to lower the 360s graphical power down to match it. If anything, us poor 360 owners are already getting downgrades. Lets just hope more devs choose to stick PC/360 and forget the DowngradeStation.
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#14 SapSacPrime
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He thinks and he would imagine, but it basically boils down to he hopes because so far multiplats are near indistinguishable :|. Anyway how many multiplats were lead developed for the more powerful platform then ported down last gen? looked to me like they were all made on the PS2 then enhanced on the xbox.
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We'll see how FF13 is on the 360 then, shall we?EuroMafia

If FF13 (somehow) ends up being better on the 360, then Sony is in alot of trouble. But I think they'll be the same, with maybe a slight edge going to the PS3.

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[QUOTE="EuroMafia"]We'll see how FF13 is on the 360 then, shall we?Chaos_HL21

If FF13 (somehow) ends up being better on the 360, then Sony is in alot of trouble. But I think they'll be the same, with maybe a slight edge going to the PS3.

which wouldn't be good for sony either, considering how much they hyped the darn thing. Then again it is the lesser of two evils vs it being better on the 360.

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#17 VirtuaCast
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Just Wait.

Oh Sony we've heard it all before.

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#18 locopatho
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lawl fallout 3?

I dont think sony is in a position to comment on the PS3's "Supossebly Superior" multiplat games at the moment.

yanni1

Just Wait.

Oh Sony we've heard it all before.

VirtuaCast

I agree with these...

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#19 darthogre
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were we not hearing this last year? Supposedly all the 2008 titles would see PS3 being the better version....yet this comment is made right after Fallout 3 released lol.......

At some point we have to see it to believe it. I keep hearing how PS3 is more powerful ect.....where's the proof?

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This just in: McDonalds and Coca Cola executives also claim THEIR companies are great! Late breaking news!
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#21 SaintJimmmy
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I have no doubt the PS3 has better graphics capablities than the 360

but, it just baffles me sony keeps promsing the future i want to live in the present and as of currently the ps3 is getting the worse version so whats the point of such potienal if your not going to use it?

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Despite Sony's blatant propaganda, haven't most multi-plats led on the PS3 been the TRUEST multi-plats, the ones with the most equality on both systems? I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, I'm not really versed in all of this.LightReflection

Truest? What do you mean?

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[QUOTE="xxThyLordxx"]on top of that, 360 will have little or no exclusives in 2009 and beyondFloppy_Jim

Be quiet.

And there's already a topic on this. Just more boring Sony PR.

u r the biggest troll..plz leave..there are already quite a few of games which are done on ps3 and are much better than 360 ones..few exceptions here and there...but thats how it will be..ps3 leading and then proted to 360....this is the truth..deal wid it
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#24 Krigon
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Oh noes!!!!!!!!!!

Who cares really? They will probably still look good and if Sony wants to show off the better graphics i guess they have to start with their first party titles.

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#25 PAL360
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LOL at sony

LOL at fanboys that trust sony

Just Wait a litlle more, right?

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#26 VirtuaCast
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I have no doubt the PS3 has better graphics capablities than the 360

but, it just baffles me sony keeps promsing the future i want to live in the present and as of currently the ps3 is getting the worse version so whats the point of such potienal if your not going to use it?

SaintJimmmy

Yeah especially when the system cost more. It's like Sony saying don't buy a PS3 right now just wait.

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LOL at sony

LOL at fanboys that trust sony

Just Wait a litlle more, right?

PAL360

the sony PR machine never ceases to amase me

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#28 dsmccracken
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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]

[QUOTE="xxThyLordxx"]on top of that, 360 will have little or no exclusives in 2009 and beyondplanbfreak4eva

Be quiet.

And there's already a topic on this. Just more boring Sony PR.

u r the biggest troll..plz leave..there are already quite a few of games which are done on ps3 and are much better than 360 ones..few exceptions here and there...but thats how it will be..ps3 leading and then proted to 360....this is the truth..deal wid it

Who are you calling a troll... Floppy_Jim?! Good lord, are you joking?

And for the record, as long as Sihanouk still draws breath, no other mortal will EVER be worthy of the term "biggest troll."

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#29 CPM_basic
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lawl fallout 3?

I dont think sony is in a position to comment on the PS3's "Supossebly Superior" multiplat games at the moment.

yanni1

lol don't worry it's just sony feeding the cows more BS about the future... misguided cows...

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#30 iam2green
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i doubt we will get downgrades. i don't see a difference betweent he systems.
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So basically in order to get games out for both systems at the same time, games will use the PS3 as the lowest common denominator... thereby watering down the graphic potential had they been built for the Xbox 360 first...

This is not good news for gaming IMO. It's biting off your nose to spite your face.

If this is what Cows consider a victory, then they fail epicly.

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"We're already seeing multi-format titles being lead on PS3, including the great looking Mirror's Edge from DICE, but judged on the released demo the game still looks marginally sharper on Xbox 360."

did you not read the last sentence?

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#33 creeping-deth87
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It amazes me that PS3 fans are still touting their console as the best for multi-platform games despite the fact that most of those games either look identical or, as in most cases, the X-Box 360 version is better. When the differences are enough to warrant different scores like in Fallout 3, you really can't be advocating the superior multi-plat slogan.
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#34 kemar7856
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it works for EA and ubisoft,capcom hardly any differnce in games
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#35 3picuri3
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blah, more hype garbage from the hype machine.

it's nearly 2009 and Sony still hasn't done anything to prove the power of their system.

MGS4, rendered sub-HD and upscaled - Kojima complains about the limitations of the system. inferior multiplat after inferior multiplat even with games that were lead PS3 like Mirror's Edge (apparently the power of the PS3 can't handle teh 2x MSAA).

so tired of this rubbish. Sony should just put their money where their mouth is and start supporting some decent 3rd party exclusive titles - the time for talk and failed marketing slang is over.

we're not stupid Sony.

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**suggested** And this is, "in theory" this would happen
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#37 3picuri3
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**suggested** And this is, "in theory" this would happenLOXO7

obviously didn't with mirror's edge. and it's not the first game that lead on PS3 that ended up being weaker on PS3... this is just marketing speak, just pure hype. seems to be all Sony is good at these days.

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#38 3picuri3
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I have no doubt the PS3 has better graphics capablities than the 360

but, it just baffles me sony keeps promsing the future i want to live in the present and as of currently the ps3 is getting the worse version so whats the point of such potienal if your not going to use it?

SaintJimmmy

it's not there - that's the point. it's all talk.

if it WAS there we would have seen it by now - we haven't.

it's turned out that *gasp* the experts were right when they analyzed the hardware of both in 2005 and said 'it's a wash' - which means they're virtually the same, where one excels in something, the other is weak and vice-versa - but overall they are nearly identical given the weaknesses and strengths of both in terms of creating games.

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i doubt we will get downgrades. i don't see a difference betweent he systems. iam2green

Ones white ...and ones black

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[QUOTE="3picuri3"]

[QUOTE="LOXO7"]**suggested** And this is, "in theory" this would happenAll_that_is_Man

obviously didn't with mirror's edge. and it's not the first game that lead on PS3 that ended up being weaker on PS3... this is just marketing speak, just pure hype. seems to be all Sony is good at these days.

The ps3 version of mirror's edge is just as good as the 360 version, I downloaded the demo for both and they both have AA problems. You can see more detail in the ps3 version since it has a better contrast, thats about the only difference.

Stop with your biased trash

Both have jaggies, but theyre more noticable on the PS3.

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#42 loco145
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Didn't Mirror's Edge had the Ps3 as the lead platform?
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yes
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[QUOTE="3picuri3"]

[QUOTE="LOXO7"]**suggested** And this is, "in theory" this would happenAll_that_is_Man

obviously didn't with mirror's edge. and it's not the first game that lead on PS3 that ended up being weaker on PS3... this is just marketing speak, just pure hype. seems to be all Sony is good at these days.

The ps3 version of mirror's edge is just as good as the 360 version, I downloaded the demo for both and they both have AA problems. You can see more detail in the ps3 version since it has a better contrast, thats about the only difference.

Stop with your biased trash

sorry mate, the verdict is in. 360 version has 2x MSAA. PS3 has nothing. this is clear when displayed on a large screen.

leading on the PS3 does nothing but assure the 2 will be close - definitely doesn't mean what this Sony spin is saying which is pure trash and and obvious lie. like i said, we're not stupid Sony :).

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#45 Eltroz
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[QUOTE="3picuri3"]

[QUOTE="LOXO7"]**suggested** And this is, "in theory" this would happenAll_that_is_Man

obviously didn't with mirror's edge. and it's not the first game that lead on PS3 that ended up being weaker on PS3... this is just marketing speak, just pure hype. seems to be all Sony is good at these days.

The ps3 version of mirror's edge is just as good as the 360 version, I downloaded the demo for both and they both have AA problems. You can see more detail in the ps3 version since it has a better contrast, thats about the only difference.

Stop with your biased trash

This is from the article -

We're already seeing multi-format titles being lead on PS3, including the great looking Mirror's Edge from DICE, but judged on the released demo the game still looks marginally sharper on Xbox 360.

Well the writter of the article disagrees with you.