Sony is screwing the faithful gamer....

This thread has nothing to do with the PS3 being a good or bad system. This thread has nothing to do with it's comparison to 360 or Wii. This thread has EVERYTHING to do with how Sony is screwing everyone over by not making up their damn minds with their system. Seriously....when in the history of video games has a company changed its model and price SO MANY times?? I bought a 60gb at launch and since then they have scrapped the 20g...introduced the 80g...scrapped the 60g ...... remade the sixaxis to Dual Shock 3.....and now is making a 40g with no BC and they give you Blu-ray of Spiderman 3.

WHAT ABOUT THOSE GAMERS THAT BOUGHT IT AT LAUNCH???????? We were the first to own Sony's latest gaming machine and our reward for that............bend over boys and no lubrication. At least Nintendo gives the over zealous a new strap for their Wii remotes and haven't realeased 4 different Wii systems. And at least M$ extended its warranty to 3 years to cover its quite defective machine (until recently that is). What has $ony done???? NOTHING!!!!! This ranks up there with the 32x coming out on the Sega Genesis.

Anyone else pissed off at Sony?? Don't you think those of us that bought systems already are entitled to something....anything.....I mean friggin mail me a copy of Spiderman 3.....something...anything. Sony is screwing over gamers and just goes about its business like they have screwed up. Or do we chalk this up to experience not to buy a system at launch and wait a bit?? But then where is the fun in that when all the new stuff comes out??

Oh and I have a 360 and a Wii so please lay off the Fanboy remarks. No trolls please...

So you're getting mad at a company trying to expand its market, and sell more of something? Its called capitalism, get used to it.ProudLarry

No...by all means expand your market.Sell lots of em for all I care. But Im mad that they aren't taking care of the ones who were already THE market. They wait a year to say, " Hey we F***ed up on our controller by taking out rumble, here is a new one you can BUY....??"

thats what i was thinking i wondered if it would have a backlash like the iPhoneramulux

We will see.

you chose to be an early adopter, you should live with its consequencesshiram

you chose to be an early adopter, you should live with its consequencesshiram

But that's not the point man. The point is in the history of Video Games you didn't have to worry about being an early adopter...you knew that the product you bought was it. You were good for at leat 4 to 5 years unless you wanted the same system but a different casing ( aka PS1 PS2 Sega Genesis). Sony has screwed up on the controller with no rumble and they have released 4 different MODELS not casings or shells for their system.

Sony is floundering...

they lost their identity with the ps3/bluray and really have no clear direction...

their idea is to throw as many darts as the board and hope some stick... but unfortunately, noone wants to play darts...

This thread has nothing to do with the PS3 being a good or bad system. This thread has nothing to do with it's comparison to 360 or Wii. This thread has EVERYTHING to do with how Sony is screwing everyone over by not making up their damn minds with their system. Seriously....when in the history of video games has a company changed its model and price SO MANY times?? I bought a 60gb at launch and since then they have scrapped the 20g...introduced the 80g...scrapped the 60g ...... remade the sixaxis to Dual Shock 3.....and now is making a 40g with no BC and they give you Blu-ray of Spiderman 3.

WHAT ABOUT THOSE GAMERS THAT BOUGHT IT AT LAUNCH???????? We were the first to own Sony's latest gaming machine and our reward for that............bend over boys and no lubrication. At least Nintendo gives the over zealous a new strap for their Wii remotes and haven't realeased 4 different Wii systems. And at least M$ extended its warranty to 3 years to cover its quite defective machine (until recently that is). What has $ony done???? NOTHING!!!!! This ranks up there with the 32x coming out on the Sega Genesis.

Anyone else pissed off at Sony?? Don't you think those of us that bought systems already are entitled to something....anything.....I mean friggin mail me a copy of Spiderman 3.....something...anything. Sony is screwing over gamers and just goes about its business like they have screwed up. Or do we chalk this up to experience not to buy a system at launch and wait a bit?? But then where is the fun in that when all the new stuff comes out??

Oh and I have a 360 and a Wii so please lay off the Fanboy remarks. No trolls please...

msalz1

Everyone knows the early adopters of technology get screwed. It's called being on the bleeding edge. I've sold TVs for 4000 dollars that have had a 1000 price drop a month later. Look at LCD and plasma. Prices practically get cut in half year-over-year. Grow up, maybe you should have been like the majority of people and bought after a price drop. Look at the 360 early adopters, 2 years of Red Lights. Hopefully Resistance was worth it, I bought Wii on day one, Zelda wasn't worth how much I don't use the system. I bought 360 a year ago, Gears of War was worth it for me, even though I've had the Red Lights.

And in my opinion, the 360 is worse. I own one, I enjoy it when it's working, but I'm not afraid to admit it's built like a piece of crap. They started with the Core and Premium, one of which was trash, then played catchup with HDMI and had to double Sony's 60 GB HDD, so made the Elite. Now they are cutting the Core and making the Arcade pack. To top it all off, at least the PS3 has a standard hard drive, and other straight-across-the-board features. Look at what it takes to add wi-fi (if you want it, I don't) to a 360. A wad of cash and a dongle. HD DVD? Another wad of cash and a dongle. It's not like the PS3 is the only one with controller problems. The 360 had a crappy wired version, and I don't know if anyone noticed but the Wii has the most expensive controller around. So stop crying, everyone has something to complain about.

[QUOTE="shiram"]you chose to be an early adopter, you should live with its consequencesmsalz1

But that's not the point man. The point is in the history of Video Games you didn't have to worry about being an early adopter...you knew that the product you bought was it. You were good for at leat 4 to 5 years unless you wanted the same system but a different casing ( aka PS1 PS2 Sega Genesis). Sony has screwed up on the controller with no rumble and they have released 4 different MODELS not casings or shells for their system.

my point is that in being an early adopter you take chances, hardware isnt fully tested, games arent out etc...
yes sony screwed up, but dont blame them for your purchase
and the ps2 had issues on launch as well

[QUOTE="ProudLarry"]So you're getting mad at a company trying to expand its market, and sell more of something? Its called capitalism, get used to it.msalz1

No...by all means expand your market.Sell lots of em for all I care. But Im mad that they aren't taking care of the ones who were already THE market. They wait a year to say, " Hey we F***ed up on our controller by taking out rumble, here is a new one you can BUY....??"

um, how did early adopters get screwed? OMG, they dropped the price, NO WAY! GET OUT!

The first PS3 models are the best ones so far, they have the frigging Emotion Engine in them and have all the ports and features.

[QUOTE="msalz1"]

This thread has nothing to do with the PS3 being a good or bad system. This thread has nothing to do with it's comparison to 360 or Wii. This thread has EVERYTHING to do with how Sony is screwing everyone over by not making up their damn minds with their system. Seriously....when in the history of video games has a company changed its model and price SO MANY times?? I bought a 60gb at launch and since then they have scrapped the 20g...introduced the 80g...scrapped the 60g ...... remade the sixaxis to Dual Shock 3.....and now is making a 40g with no BC and they give you Blu-ray of Spiderman 3.

WHAT ABOUT THOSE GAMERS THAT BOUGHT IT AT LAUNCH???????? We were the first to own Sony's latest gaming machine and our reward for that............bend over boys and no lubrication. At least Nintendo gives the over zealous a new strap for their Wii remotes and haven't realeased 4 different Wii systems. And at least M$ extended its warranty to 3 years to cover its quite defective machine (until recently that is). What has $ony done???? NOTHING!!!!! This ranks up there with the 32x coming out on the Sega Genesis.

Anyone else pissed off at Sony?? Don't you think those of us that bought systems already are entitled to something....anything.....I mean friggin mail me a copy of Spiderman 3.....something...anything. Sony is screwing over gamers and just goes about its business like they have screwed up. Or do we chalk this up to experience not to buy a system at launch and wait a bit?? But then where is the fun in that when all the new stuff comes out??

Oh and I have a 360 and a Wii so please lay off the Fanboy remarks. No trolls please...

l-_-l

As I said early....when have early adopters been screwed over so much before in the history of Video Games??? When you bought a Super Nintendo....that was it. They didn't come out with a Super Duper Nintendo 10 months later. And apparently you care cause you sought to make me feel better....wait ... nevermind.:roll:

Whatever no one forced you to buy the PS3... If you actually used to own a Ps1 or Ps2 you should've known that sony always makes the first console, and then a second design comes few years later. The fact is if you wait you will get a quality console from Sony. For me I'm not in a hurry getting a PS3... For one I first need a HD, and for two my PS2 still is good for me till next year I'm okay.haris12121212

Right a different design...also known as the shell. Not the insides and not the controller it comes with. I have the HD stuff and all the goodies. My point is that when a company does something wrong they need to own up to it and make it up to the people that already HAVE the product.

[QUOTE="shiram"]you chose to be an early adopter, you should live with its consequencesmsalz1

But that's not the point man. The point is in the history of Video Games you didn't have to worry about being an early adopter...you knew that the product you bought was it. You were good for at leat 4 to 5 years unless you wanted the same system but a different casing ( aka PS1 PS2 Sega Genesis). Sony has screwed up on the controller with no rumble and they have released 4 different MODELS not casings or shells for their system.

[QUOTE="l-_-l"][QUOTE="msalz1"]

This thread has nothing to do with the PS3 being a good or bad system. This thread has nothing to do with it's comparison to 360 or Wii. This thread has EVERYTHING to do with how Sony is screwing everyone over by not making up their damn minds with their system. Seriously....when in the history of video games has a company changed its model and price SO MANY times?? I bought a 60gb at launch and since then they have scrapped the 20g...introduced the 80g...scrapped the 60g ...... remade the sixaxis to Dual Shock 3.....and now is making a 40g with no BC and they give you Blu-ray of Spiderman 3.

WHAT ABOUT THOSE GAMERS THAT BOUGHT IT AT LAUNCH???????? We were the first to own Sony's latest gaming machine and our reward for that............bend over boys and no lubrication. At least Nintendo gives the over zealous a new strap for their Wii remotes and haven't realeased 4 different Wii systems. And at least M$ extended its warranty to 3 years to cover its quite defective machine (until recently that is). What has $ony done???? NOTHING!!!!! This ranks up there with the 32x coming out on the Sega Genesis.

Anyone else pissed off at Sony?? Don't you think those of us that bought systems already are entitled to something....anything.....I mean friggin mail me a copy of Spiderman 3.....something...anything. Sony is screwing over gamers and just goes about its business like they have screwed up. Or do we chalk this up to experience not to buy a system at launch and wait a bit?? But then where is the fun in that when all the new stuff comes out??

Oh and I have a 360 and a Wii so please lay off the Fanboy remarks. No trolls please...

msalz1

As I said early....when have early adopters been screwed over so much before in the history of Video Games??? When you bought a Super Nintendo....that was it. They didn't come out with a Super Duper Nintendo 10 months later. And apparently you care cause you sought to make me feel better....wait ... nevermind.:roll:

So you're getting mad at a company trying to expand its market, and sell more of something? Its called capitalism, get used to it.ProudLarry

Thank you.

i swear, there's far too many early adopters who love to whine about it later. I too have had my PS3 since launch. I too have seen the changes they've made. And its all been for the better. Better for potential owners, better for current owners, better for you, TC.

[QUOTE="haris12121212"]Whatever no one forced you to buy the PS3... If you actually used to own a Ps1 or Ps2 you should've known that sony always makes the first console, and then a second design comes few years later. The fact is if you wait you will get a quality console from Sony. For me I'm not in a hurry getting a PS3... For one I first need a HD, and for two my PS2 still is good for me till next year I'm okay.msalz1

Right a different design...also known as the shell. Not the insides and not the controller it comes with. I have the HD stuff and all the goodies. My point is that when a company does something wrong they need to own up to it and make it up to the people that already HAVE the product.

[QUOTE="msalz1"]

[QUOTE="shiram"]you chose to be an early adopter, you should live with its consequencesl-_-l

But that's not the point man. The point is in the history of Video Games you didn't have to worry about being an early adopter...you knew that the product you bought was it. You were good for at leat 4 to 5 years unless you wanted the same system but a different casing ( aka PS1 PS2 Sega Genesis). Sony has screwed up on the controller with no rumble and they have released 4 different MODELS not casings or shells for their system.

Really?? When...

Nintendo....nope

Sega Genesis...nope

Super Nintendo..nope

Dreamcast...nope

3D0....still praying for those poor bastards.

PS1...nope

N64...nope

PS2.....nope

Gamecube...nope

Xbox....nope

Seriously from the list above what did the early adopter have to worry about...defective issues aside cause thats a given???

[QUOTE="ProudLarry"]So you're getting mad at a company trying to expand its market, and sell more of something? Its called capitalism, get used to it.The_Crucible

Thank you.

i swear, there's far too many early adopters who love to whine about it later. I too have had my PS3 since launch. I too have seen the changes they've made. And its all been for the better. Better for potential owners, better for current owners, better for you, TC.

removing features is not better for the consumer...

remove fanboy goggles, please....

[QUOTE="The_Crucible"]

[QUOTE="ProudLarry"]So you're getting mad at a company trying to expand its market, and sell more of something? Its called capitalism, get used to it.tango90101

Thank you.

i swear, there's far too many early adopters who love to whine about it later. I too have had my PS3 since launch. I too have seen the changes they've made. And its all been for the better. Better for potential owners, better for current owners, better for you, TC.

removing features is not better for the consumer...

remove fanboy goggles, please....

;) true

[QUOTE="shiram"]you chose to be an early adopter, you should live with its consequencesnyoroism

Yeah but that was only the first year because I bought the Ps2 the second year and its still working but I dropped it recently and now it sometimes frezes when im playing fifa 07 :(

People who buy ANYTHING at launch always pay a premium. If you bought the console at launch without realizing the price would drop at some point, or come with special bundles...then you are the most naive and ignorant customer on planey earth.

How many DS SKUs are out there? How can you blame Sony for having a multiple SKU strategy whilst rocking a Metroid avatar, TC?Ninpo_Osa

That would be 2 skus....and the added to the product making it better not take away stuff and make it worse....and when the hell does liking a great game series go against anyone??

People who buy ANYTHING at launch always pay a premium. If you bought the console at launch without realizing the price would drop at some point, or come with special bundles...then you are the most naive and ignorant customer on planey earth.

ZIMdoom

Oh I am fully aware of price drops and different bundles down the road. But NEVER in the history of gaming has a company done this in under 1 year of it's launch.

[QUOTE="The_Crucible"]

[QUOTE="ProudLarry"]So you're getting mad at a company trying to expand its market, and sell more of something? Its called capitalism, get used to it.tango90101

Thank you.

i swear, there's far too many early adopters who love to whine about it later. I too have had my PS3 since launch. I too have seen the changes they've made. And its all been for the better. Better for potential owners, better for current owners, better for you, TC.

removing features is not better for the consumer...

remove fanboy goggles, please....

I suppose you believe having 5 SKUs with practically nothing standard is better? If removing featuresand selling the console at $399 is "not better for the consumer" than a more expensive console...then you are clueless. Maybe you should wait and see what consumers actually do before you start believing you speak for all of them.

[QUOTE="Ninpo_Osa"]How many DS SKUs are out there? How can you blame Sony for having a multiple SKU strategy whilst rocking a Metroid avatar, TC?msalz1

That would be 2 skus....and the added to the product making it better not take away stuff and make it worse....and when the hell does liking a great game series go against anyone??

People who buy ANYTHING at launch always pay a premium. If you bought the console at launch without realizing the price would drop at some point, or come with special bundles...then you are the most naive and ignorant customer on planey earth.

ZIMdoom

so true.

anyone who's ever boughta "new" car would confirm this....

not to mention those early VCR adopters (my parents) who paid HUNDREDS for a VCR roughly the same size as a Honda Civic...

oooo...hi tech, indeed...:lol:

but hey...as early adopters we get to say "we got it first"... but at a price....

[QUOTE="msalz1"]

[QUOTE="Ninpo_Osa"]How many DS SKUs are out there? How can you blame Sony for having a multiple SKU strategy whilst rocking a Metroid avatar, TC?Ninpo_Osa

That would be 2 skus....and the added to the product making it better not take away stuff and make it worse....and when the hell does liking a great game series go against anyone??

I would be a game fan....and the Pokemon Edition Gamecube is a different casing not a different machine.

Stop being so upset at the company and focus that anger at yourself. Your the impulsive buyer that couldn't wait to buy a PS3 and now your getting upset because you think you should get a treat for buying their console. Get over yourself in the end that is what Sony wanted you to do, and everyone else, so grow up and play the PS3 games that are coming to the system (eventually). shadowfox55

So you wouldn't be upset at Nintendo if they released a system with more internal memory for downloadable games? And then said we are coming out with a Wii remote that is more realistic for gameplay and makes your games more enjoyable.....sorry you bought 4 of our dumb downed versions earlier. You would just say "Its ok nintendo I love you anyway cause I understand how business works."

[QUOTE="shadowfox55"]Stop being so upset at the company and focus that anger at yourself. Your the impulsive buyer that couldn't wait to buy a PS3 and now your getting upset because you think you should get a treat for buying their console. Get over yourself in the end that is what Sony wanted you to do, and everyone else, so grow up and play the PS3 games that are coming to the system (eventually). msalz1

So you wouldn't be upset at Nintendo if they released a system with more internal memory for downloadable games? And then said we are coming out with a Wii remote that is more realistic for gameplay and makes your games more enjoyable.....sorry you bought 4 of our dumb downed versions earlier. You would just say "Its ok nintendo I love you anyway cause I understand how business works."

You aren't even making any sense. Early PS3 adopters aren't getting a dumbed down anything. You still have all the same games, BR playback and all the same capabilities with every single PS3 model. The only exception is the $399 version which has noBC.

Your comparison is completely ridiculous to the point that I can only assume you are being intentionally obtuse to tick everyone else off.

hb microsoft? It has the core, eliete, premium, halo edition, arcade edition?

Yeah nitendo fix the stap thing and microsoft extended warrenty but what would sony give us? Nothing is broken with our ps3s. We dont have to worry bout our consoles over heating and breaking.

It does blow how they are changing the prices like crazy but thats what happens for being an early adaptor. I think you need to just relax a bit.

TC, you KNEW what you were buying when you bought the PS3 at launch, and obviously you were willing to pay the price that you payed to have it right then.