Sony is upsetting conumers again

Yes this is old news to us, but this is a mainstream investing site. Looks like sony's $100 "price cut" isn't going to set well with investors and consumers.

http://msn.fool.com/investing/general/2007/07/18/sonys-ps3-clearance-sale.aspx?logvisit=y&source=eedmsnlnk0010001

Several of Sony's moves over the last couple of years haven't exactly engendered consumers' goodwill. Rootkits, fake blogs -- is this the right way to treat customers? The Financial Times reported that Sony's phaseout resulted in consumer rants on gaming sites.

Still, Sony shareholders, or anybody who's considering the stock, should think long and hard about its recent PR blunders. In addition to suggesting serious strategy confusion at Sony, their effect on consumers' opinions of the company's motives shouldn't be ignored.

Yes this is old news to us, but this is a mainstream investing site. Looks like sony's $100 "price cut" isn't going to set well with investors and consumers.

http://msn.fool.com/investing/general/2007/07/18/sonys-ps3-clearance-sale.aspx?logvisit=y&source=eedmsnlnk0010001

Several of Sony's moves over the last couple of years haven't exactly engendered consumers' goodwill. Rootkits, fake blogs -- is this the right way to treat customers? The Financial Times reported that Sony's phaseout resulted in consumer rants on gaming sites.

Still, Sony shareholders, or anybody who's considering the stock, should think long and hard about its recent PR blunders. In addition to suggesting serious strategy confusion at Sony, their effect on consumers' opinions of the company's motives shouldn't be ignored.

mikasa

Omg, Nintendo kicked my dog, don't invest in their stock!

[QUOTE="mikasa"]

Yes this is old news to us, but this is a mainstream investing site. Looks like sony's $100 "price cut" isn't going to set well with investors and consumers.

http://msn.fool.com/investing/general/2007/07/18/sonys-ps3-clearance-sale.aspx?logvisit=y&source=eedmsnlnk0010001

Several of Sony's moves over the last couple of years haven't exactly engendered consumers' goodwill. Rootkits, fake blogs -- is this the right way to treat customers? The Financial Times reported that Sony's phaseout resulted in consumer rants on gaming sites.

Still, Sony shareholders, or anybody who's considering the stock, should think long and hard about its recent PR blunders. In addition to suggesting serious strategy confusion at Sony, their effect on consumers' opinions of the company's motives shouldn't be ignored.

SillyManimal

Omg, Nintendo kicked my dog, don't invest in their stock!

:lol:

Nice but next time dont skip over all of this....

"Sony lost its top spot on a Harris Interactive consumer brand survey to Coca-Cola (NYSE: KO), after seven straight years at No. 1. Then again, Sony shareholders might take some comfort inknowing that it's still holding on at No. 2, despite its many recent consumer-galling mistakes.

CNET sought out Sony's side of the story. The company said that there's still plenty of the 60 GB models around, and it didn't rule out the idea of a later price cut on the higher-end version, once it evaluates the market."

I would be surprised if after Sony has been bragging about it selling double that when the 60gb goes away they will justify 100 dollars more for the 80gb and not just knock it down. Especially since its cheaper to make then the 60gb and their sales are on fire since the drop to 499.

People have been mad at Sony before and the PS2 got its share of bad press. Nothing changes a bunch of sheeps minds like success and so far Sony is doing all the right things, locking in exclusives, dropping prices, New IPs, and making games that are living up to the hype.

But nice try to try and invent bad news.....

Nice but next time dont skip over all of this....

"Sony lost its top spot on a Harris Interactive consumer brand survey to Coca-Cola (NYSE: KO), after seven straight years at No. 1. Then again, Sony shareholders might take some comfort inknowing that it's still holding on at No. 2, despite its many recent consumer-galling mistakes.

CNET sought out Sony's side of the story. The company said that there's still plenty of the 60 GB models around,:lol: and it didn't rule out the idea of a later price cut on the higher-end version, once it evaluates the market."

I would be surprised if after Sony has been bragging about it selling double that when the 60gb goes away they will justify 100 dollars more for the 80gb and not just knock it down. Especially since its cheaper to make then the 60gb and their sales are on fire since the drop to 499.

People have been mad at Sony before and the PS2 got its share of bad press. Nothing changes a bunch of sheeps minds like success and so far Sony is doing all the right things, locking in exclusives, dropping prices, New IPs, and making games that are living up to the hype.

But nice try to try and invent bad news.....

Javy03

Nice but next time dont skip over all of this....

"Sony lost its top spot on a Harris Interactive consumer brand survey to Coca-Cola (NYSE: KO), after seven straight years at No. 1. Then again, Sony shareholders might take some comfort inknowing that it's still holding on at No. 2, despite its many recent consumer-galling mistakes.

CNET sought out Sony's side of the story. The company said that there's still plenty of the 60 GB models around, and it didn't rule out the idea of a later price cut on the higher-end version, once it evaluates the market."

I would be surprised if after Sony has been bragging about it selling double that when the 60gb goes away they will justify 100 dollars more for the 80gb and not just knock it down. Especially since its cheaper to make then the 60gb and their sales are on fire since the drop to 499.

People have been mad at Sony before and the PS2 got its share of bad press. Nothing changes a bunch of sheeps minds like success and so far Sony is doing all the right things, locking in exclusives, dropping prices, New IPs, and making games that are living up to the hype.

But nice try to try and invent bad news.....

Javy03

So you're claiming this article is GOOD NEWS for Sony? :roll:

Wow. Amazing at how one could read that article and claim it was anything but bad news. They lose their 1st place good name to Coke. And they have another PR blunder, but yeah...it's good news. :roll:

CNET sought out Sony's side of the story. The company said that there's still plenty of the 60 GB models around, and it didn't rule out the idea of a later price cut on the higher-end version, once it evaluates the market."

Cool, hope they cut the price of the 80gig sku once the 60gig sku is sold out.

[QUOTE="Javy03"]

Nice but next time dont skip over all of this....

"Sony lost its top spot on a Harris Interactive consumer brand survey to Coca-Cola (NYSE: KO), after seven straight years at No. 1. Then again, Sony shareholders might take some comfort inknowing that it's still holding on at No. 2, despite its many recent consumer-galling mistakes.

CNET sought out Sony's side of the story. The company said that there's still plenty of the 60 GB models around, and it didn't rule out the idea of a later price cut on the higher-end version, once it evaluates the market."

I would be surprised if after Sony has been bragging about it selling double that when the 60gb goes away they will justify 100 dollars more for the 80gb and not just knock it down. Especially since its cheaper to make then the 60gb and their sales are on fire since the drop to 499.

People have been mad at Sony before and the PS2 got its share of bad press. Nothing changes a bunch of sheeps minds like success and so far Sony is doing all the right things, locking in exclusives, dropping prices, New IPs, and making games that are living up to the hype.

But nice try to try and invent bad news.....

mikasa

So you're claiming this article is GOOD NEWS for Sony? :roll:

Wow. Amazing at how one could read that article and claim it was anything but bad news. They lose their 1st place good name to Coke. And they have another PR blunder, but yeah...it's good news. :roll:

After everything that has happened, coming in at #2 is pretty damn good.

Nice but next time dont skip over all of this....

"Sony lost its top spot on a Harris Interactive consumer brand survey to Coca-Cola (NYSE: KO), after seven straight years at No. 1. Then again, Sony shareholders might take some comfort inknowing that it's still holding on at No. 2, despite its many recent consumer-galling mistakes.

CNET sought out Sony's side of the story. The company said that there's still plenty of the 60 GB models around, and it didn't rule out the idea of a later price cut on the higher-end version, once it evaluates the market."

I would be surprised if after Sony has been bragging about it selling double that when the 60gb goes away they will justify 100 dollars more for the 80gb and not just knock it down. Especially since its cheaper to make then the 60gb and their sales are on fire since the drop to 499.

People have been mad at Sony before and the PS2 got its share of bad press. Nothing changes a bunch of sheeps minds like success and so far Sony is doing all the right things, locking in exclusives, dropping prices, New IPs, and making games that are living up to the hype.

But nice try to try and invent bad news.....

Javy03

Nice try...I see you added your own text without separating it from the article...it gives the illusion that the article actually says that.

[QUOTE="mikasa"][QUOTE="Javy03"]

Nice but next time dont skip over all of this....

"Sony lost its top spot on a Harris Interactive consumer brand survey to Coca-Cola (NYSE: KO), after seven straight years at No. 1. Then again, Sony shareholders might take some comfort inknowing that it's still holding on at No. 2, despite its many recent consumer-galling mistakes.

CNET sought out Sony's side of the story. The company said that there's still plenty of the 60 GB models around, and it didn't rule out the idea of a later price cut on the higher-end version, once it evaluates the market."

I would be surprised if after Sony has been bragging about it selling double that when the 60gb goes away they will justify 100 dollars more for the 80gb and not just knock it down. Especially since its cheaper to make then the 60gb and their sales are on fire since the drop to 499.

People have been mad at Sony before and the PS2 got its share of bad press. Nothing changes a bunch of sheeps minds like success and so far Sony is doing all the right things, locking in exclusives, dropping prices, New IPs, and making games that are living up to the hype.

But nice try to try and invent bad news.....

SillyManimal

So you're claiming this article is GOOD NEWS for Sony? :roll:

Wow. Amazing at how one could read that article and claim it was anything but bad news. They lose their 1st place good name to Coke. And they have another PR blunder, but yeah...it's good news. :roll:

After everything that has happened, coming in at #2 is pretty damn good.

I'm not sure what his surveyis tracking either. I know Google just passed up Microsoft a #1 recognized name brand world wide. Prior to that it was Coke. So this may just be for America or something else. I really don't know.

[QUOTE="Javy03"]

Nice but next time dont skip over all of this....

"Sony lost its top spot on a Harris Interactive consumer brand survey to Coca-Cola (NYSE: KO), after seven straight years at No. 1. Then again, Sony shareholders might take some comfort inknowing that it's still holding on at No. 2, despite its many recent consumer-galling mistakes.

CNET sought out Sony's side of the story. The company said that there's still plenty of the 60 GB models around, and it didn't rule out the idea of a later price cut on the higher-end version, once it evaluates the market."

I would be surprised if after Sony has been bragging about it selling double that when the 60gb goes away they will justify 100 dollars more for the 80gb and not just knock it down. Especially since its cheaper to make then the 60gb and their sales are on fire since the drop to 499.

People have been mad at Sony before and the PS2 got its share of bad press. Nothing changes a bunch of sheeps minds like success and so far Sony is doing all the right things, locking in exclusives, dropping prices, New IPs, and making games that are living up to the hype.

But nice try to try and invent bad news.....

mikasa

So you're claiming this article is GOOD NEWS for Sony? :roll:

Wow. Amazing at how one could read that article and claim it was anything but bad news. They lose their 1st place good name to Coke. And they have another PR blunder, but yeah...it's good news. :roll:

I never said its good news, but its not the way you are trying to make it appear, that Sony is "pissing' people off. It says nothing new, just that some people are worried about the 499 price point, but then SOny says they are open to dropping the 599 after evaluating the market which you left out in attempt to selective read.

Wait a sec, Is it just me or is this article telling me my emotions?

[QUOTE="Javy03"]

Nice but next time dont skip over all of this....

"Sony lost its top spot on a Harris Interactive consumer brand survey to Coca-Cola (NYSE: KO), after seven straight years at No. 1. Then again, Sony shareholders might take some comfort inknowing that it's still holding on at No. 2, despite its many recent consumer-galling mistakes.

CNET sought out Sony's side of the story. The company said that there's still plenty of the 60 GB models around, and it didn't rule out the idea of a later price cut on the higher-end version, once it evaluates the market."

I would be surprised if after Sony has been bragging about it selling double that when the 60gb goes away they will justify 100 dollars more for the 80gb and not just knock it down. Especially since its cheaper to make then the 60gb and their sales are on fire since the drop to 499.

People have been mad at Sony before and the PS2 got its share of bad press. Nothing changes a bunch of sheeps minds like success and so far Sony is doing all the right things, locking in exclusives, dropping prices, New IPs, and making games that are living up to the hype.

But nice try to try and invent bad news.....

mikasa

Nice try...I see you added your own text without separating it from the article...it gives the illusion that the article actually says that.

LOL...the article quote is in....well....quotes, if you didnt notice, that is your fault, not mine. I made it clear what the article says and what I do.

[QUOTE="mikasa"][QUOTE="Javy03"]

Nice but next time dont skip over all of this....

"Sony lost its top spot on a Harris Interactive consumer brand survey to Coca-Cola (NYSE: KO), after seven straight years at No. 1. Then again, Sony shareholders might take some comfort inknowing that it's still holding on at No. 2, despite its many recent consumer-galling mistakes.

CNET sought out Sony's side of the story. The company said that there's still plenty of the 60 GB models around, and it didn't rule out the idea of a later price cut on the higher-end version, once it evaluates the market."

I would be surprised if after Sony has been bragging about it selling double that when the 60gb goes away they will justify 100 dollars more for the 80gb and not just knock it down. Especially since its cheaper to make then the 60gb and their sales are on fire since the drop to 499.

People have been mad at Sony before and the PS2 got its share of bad press. Nothing changes a bunch of sheeps minds like success and so far Sony is doing all the right things, locking in exclusives, dropping prices, New IPs, and making games that are living up to the hype.

But nice try to try and invent bad news.....

Javy03

So you're claiming this article is GOOD NEWS for Sony? :roll:

Wow. Amazing at how one could read that article and claim it was anything but bad news. They lose their 1st place good name to Coke. And they have another PR blunder, but yeah...it's good news. :roll:

I never said its good news, but its not the way you are trying to make it appear, that Sony is "pissing' people off. It says nothing new, just that some people are worried about the 499 price point, but then SOny says they are open to dropping the 599 after evaluating the market which you left out in attempt to selective read.

Maybe you need to re-read these parts again.

Several of Sony's moves over the last couple of years haven't exactly engendered consumers' goodwill. Rootkits, fake blogs -- is this the right way to treat customers? The Financial Times reported that Sony's phaseout resulted in consumer rants on gaming sites.

Still, Sony shareholders, or anybody who's considering the stock, should think long and hard about its recent PR blunders. In addition to suggesting serious strategy confusion at Sony, their effect on consumers' opinions of the company's motives shouldn't be ignored.

Yes this is old news to us, but this is a mainstream investing site. Looks like sony's $100 "price cut" isn't going to set well with investors and consumers.

http://msn.fool.com/investing/general/2007/07/18/sonys-ps3-clearance-sale.aspx?logvisit=y&source=eedmsnlnk0010001

Several of Sony's moves over the last couple of years haven't exactly engendered consumers' goodwill. Rootkits, fake blogs -- is this the right way to treat customers? The Financial Times reported that Sony's phaseout resulted in consumer rants on gaming sites.

Still, Sony shareholders, or anybody who's considering the stock, should think long and hard about its recent PR blunders. In addition to suggesting serious strategy confusion at Sony, their effect on consumers' opinions of the company's motives shouldn't be ignored.

mikasa

Sony expected to lower 80GB PS3 to $499

News that the newly discounted PS3 would be discontinued in the coming months left many gamers slightly frustrated on Friday, but Sony will likely stick with its $499 price point when 60GB inventory depletes says analyst Micheal Pachter.

80GB PS3 to drop to $499?

"Although we think that Sony's public relations gaffe was unfortunate, we do not believe that the company has ill intent, and we expect the $499 price point to be maintained until early next year, when the 80GB model will likely by cut again to $399," Pachter said.

Just yesterday, Sony told GamePro that 60GB PS3s should be available for "months and months," even suggesting new pricing once the 60GB models have been diminished.

"We have ample supply to last us for months and months, so any upheaval over the stop in manufacturing of this model is ill-placed. As we said on Friday, we won't be making any further announcements regarding our PS3 model hardware strategy in North America until the 60GB model is exhausted and market conditions are evaluated," a Sony spokesman told us.

http://www.gamepro.com/news.cfm?article_id=122688

Nice but next time dont skip over all of this....

"Sony lost its top spot on a Harris Interactive consumer brand survey to Coca-Cola (NYSE: KO), after seven straight years at No. 1. Then again, Sony shareholders might take some comfort inknowing that it's still holding on at No. 2, despite its many recent consumer-galling mistakes.

CNET sought out Sony's side of the story. The company said that there's still plenty of the 60 GB models around, and it didn't rule out the idea of a later price cut on the higher-end version, once it evaluates the market."

I would be surprised if after Sony has been bragging about it selling double that when the 60gb goes away they will justify 100 dollars more for the 80gb and not just knock it down. Especially since its cheaper to make then the 60gb and their sales are on fire since the drop to 499.

People have been mad at Sony before and the PS2 got its share of bad press. Nothing changes a bunch of sheeps minds like success and so far Sony is doing all the right things, locking in exclusives, dropping prices, New IPs, and making games that are living up to the hype.

But nice try to try and invent bad news.....

Javy03

I'm used to it by now. Sony is the most hated console manufacturer on the internet. Why? Becuase Nintendo/Sega/Xbox fans are mostly Geeks who are mad that sony destroyed thier consoles in previous gerations... The general public outside in the real world mostly want PS3s, but can't afford one. Watch out when PS3 becomes affordable sony haters...

[QUOTE="Javy03"][QUOTE="mikasa"][QUOTE="Javy03"]

Nice but next time dont skip over all of this....

"Sony lost its top spot on a Harris Interactive consumer brand survey to Coca-Cola (NYSE: KO), after seven straight years at No. 1. Then again, Sony shareholders might take some comfort inknowing that it's still holding on at No. 2, despite its many recent consumer-galling mistakes.

CNET sought out Sony's side of the story. The company said that there's still plenty of the 60 GB models around, and it didn't rule out the idea of a later price cut on the higher-end version, once it evaluates the market."

I would be surprised if after Sony has been bragging about it selling double that when the 60gb goes away they will justify 100 dollars more for the 80gb and not just knock it down. Especially since its cheaper to make then the 60gb and their sales are on fire since the drop to 499.

People have been mad at Sony before and the PS2 got its share of bad press. Nothing changes a bunch of sheeps minds like success and so far Sony is doing all the right things, locking in exclusives, dropping prices, New IPs, and making games that are living up to the hype.

But nice try to try and invent bad news.....

mikasa

So you're claiming this article is GOOD NEWS for Sony? :roll:

Wow. Amazing at how one could read that article and claim it was anything but bad news. They lose their 1st place good name to Coke. And they have another PR blunder, but yeah...it's good news. :roll:

I never said its good news, but its not the way you are trying to make it appear, that Sony is "pissing' people off. It says nothing new, just that some people are worried about the 499 price point, but then SOny says they are open to dropping the 599 after evaluating the market which you left out in attempt to selective read.

Maybe you need to re-read these parts again.

Several of Sony's moves over the last couple of years haven't exactly engendered consumers' goodwill. Rootkits, fake blogs -- is this the right way to treat customers? The Financial Times reported that Sony's phaseout resulted in consumer rants on gaming sites.

Still, Sony shareholders, or anybody who's considering the stock, should think long and hard about its recent PR blunders. In addition to suggesting serious strategy confusion at Sony, their effect on consumers' opinions of the company's motives shouldn't be ignored.

It still holds the #2 spot under Coke, and I am glad The Financial Times reported on the Rootkits, and fake blogs. Tell me what do you think the average joe knows about, these random things or the 360 failure rate and need to extend to 3 years because FOX and other media outlets reported on their lies about their failure rate, there are posts about possible recalls...and you think old news makes Sony look bad...LOL please. COmpared to its competition currently they look just fine.

When sony confirms that then we can almost believe it. You never know they could just be lying to keep people calm.mikasa

Or they could be telling the truth, either way currently PS3s are 499 and we cant predict the future so jumping to the negative conclusion far from accurate.

[QUOTE="mikasa"][QUOTE="Javy03"][QUOTE="mikasa"][QUOTE="Javy03"]

Nice but next time dont skip over all of this....

"Sony lost its top spot on a Harris Interactive consumer brand survey to Coca-Cola (NYSE: KO), after seven straight years at No. 1. Then again, Sony shareholders might take some comfort inknowing that it's still holding on at No. 2, despite its many recent consumer-galling mistakes.

CNET sought out Sony's side of the story. The company said that there's still plenty of the 60 GB models around, and it didn't rule out the idea of a later price cut on the higher-end version, once it evaluates the market."

I would be surprised if after Sony has been bragging about it selling double that when the 60gb goes away they will justify 100 dollars more for the 80gb and not just knock it down. Especially since its cheaper to make then the 60gb and their sales are on fire since the drop to 499.

People have been mad at Sony before and the PS2 got its share of bad press. Nothing changes a bunch of sheeps minds like success and so far Sony is doing all the right things, locking in exclusives, dropping prices, New IPs, and making games that are living up to the hype.

But nice try to try and invent bad news.....

Javy03

So you're claiming this article is GOOD NEWS for Sony? :roll:

Wow. Amazing at how one could read that article and claim it was anything but bad news. They lose their 1st place good name to Coke. And they have another PR blunder, but yeah...it's good news. :roll:

I never said its good news, but its not the way you are trying to make it appear, that Sony is "pissing' people off. It says nothing new, just that some people are worried about the 499 price point, but then SOny says they are open to dropping the 599 after evaluating the market which you left out in attempt to selective read.

Maybe you need to re-read these parts again.

Several of Sony's moves over the last couple of years haven't exactly engendered consumers' goodwill. Rootkits, fake blogs -- is this the right way to treat customers? The Financial Times reported that Sony's phaseout resulted in consumer rants on gaming sites.

Still, Sony shareholders, or anybody who's considering the stock, should think long and hard about its recent PR blunders. In addition to suggesting serious strategy confusion at Sony, their effect on consumers' opinions of the company's motives shouldn't be ignored.

It still holds the #2 spot under Coke, and I am glad The Financial Times reported on the Rootkits, and fake blogs. Tell me what do you think the average joe knows about, these random things or the 360 failure rate and need to extend to 3 years because FOX and other media outlets reported on their lies about their failure rate, there are posts about possible recalls...and you think old news makes Sony look bad...LOL please. COmpared to its competition currently they look just fine.

Yes M$ is jacked up with the failures. When did I ever say they weren't? Oh, I guess you think by pointing out M$'s flaws it excuses Sony's bad PR. That my friend is called damage control.

[QUOTE="mikasa"]When sony confirms that then we can almost believe it. You never know they could just be lying to keep people calm.Javy03

Or they could be telling the truth, either way currently PS3s are 499 and we cant predict the future so jumping to the negative conclusion far from accurate.

Accurate or not doesn't matter. This is not a gaming site reporting this news. Perception is reality...and people aren't happy with it.

When sony confirms that then we can almost believe it. You never know they could just be lying to keep people calm.mikasa

Yes but do u think your average xbox 360 owner and others that dont own a pc and online know the high number of percentage of defective xbox 360's?

X07 cancelled, all 360's reported potentially defective, worldwide warranty extension plan, a much needed price cut ignored...

vs

Most impressive E3, very successful price cut, timed exclusives coming from all ways, new companies like NCSoft signing up...

Oh yeah, Sony is definitely getting the rough end of it :roll: .

Yes M$ is jacked up with the failures. When did I ever say they weren't? Oh, I guess you think by pointing out M$'s flaws it excuses Sony's bad PR. That my friend is called damage control.mikasa

The irony of all of this is that you guys still bash the PS3 because of it's price in a silly effort to try and stand up for a company that admited to selling 11.5 million defective consoles. Sorry, but there is no bad press about the PS3 that can touch that very undeniable FACT. You can candy coat it all you like with talk of the 3 year warranty, but just keep in mind that Halo 3, and Mass Effect will not be any fun for those folks who are going to be waiting on Microsoft to send back thier repaired consoles. And you can bet your bottom dollar there will be plenty of them that will be in that very position, just as there have been ever since the 360 came out.

The problem with most 360 owners is that they cannot see past the hype of the games to the heart of a situation that is more than just a little serious. Some owners are so blind that they are still dreaming about Halo 3 while waiting on their 4th or even 5th 360 to come back from Microsoft, lol. The bottom line is that good games and a 3 year warranty or not, there is no justification for the console being a defect waiting to happen straight out of the box, as it has been proven, and admitted to be.

So, you go ahead, act smug, and say what you will about the PS3, but at least it is a great design that is very reliable, and is not a ticking time bomb right out of the box. Therefore, by and large it's owners will not have to worry about not having their PS3 when their favorite games come out due to having to send it in for repairs. All the 3 year warranty from Microsoft is essentially admitting to the consumers is, "we are aware that we screwed up and released a console with a flawed design, and chances are, it will fail on you within 3 years." Gee thanks, Microsoft, for selling us an admitted part time console for $400.00, lol.

The Xbox 360 has great games yes, but the console itself that is required to play them on is a piece of defective garbage. Good job, Microsoft! Trust me, there are some of us who saw beyond the hype of the games after our 360 lemoned out on us.;) Yes, it will have some great games that I cannot wait for either, but still, people who only support the 360 have absolutely NO room to bash another console when the 360 console design itself is a mistake that needed probably another full year of research and development before it ever got released. Good games, sales, and a 3 year warranty is simply no excuse at all.

[QUOTE="mikasa"]When sony confirms that then we can almost believe it. You never know they could just be lying to keep people calm.squallff8_fan

Yes but do u think your average xbox 360 owner and others that dont own a pc and online know the high number of percentage of defective xbox 360's?

Oh I see so 360's faults absolve Sony of theirs. That as I said earlier is pure damage control.

[QUOTE="mikasa"]Yes M$ is jacked up with the failures. When did I ever say they weren't? Oh, I guess you think by pointing out M$'s flaws it excuses Sony's bad PR. That my friend is called damage control.Heil68

I think you forgot the sarcasm tag.

Nintendo is obviously the most succesful at gaming as they've been at it the longest and always make money on their consoles. And the resurgence of their latest consoles shows they are doing something right.

And Microsoft is one of the most profitable companies in history (if not the most profitable). So I guess you did mean this as a joke.

Nice but next time dont skip over all of this....

"Sony lost its top spot on a Harris Interactive consumer brand survey to Coca-Cola (NYSE: KO), after seven straight years at No. 1. Then again, Sony shareholders might take some comfort inknowing that it's still holding on at No. 2, despite its many recent consumer-galling mistakes.

CNET sought out Sony's side of the story. The company said that there's still plenty of the 60 GB models around, and it didn't rule out the idea of a later price cut on the higher-end version, once it evaluates the market."

I would be surprised if after Sony has been bragging about it selling double that when the 60gb goes away they will justify 100 dollars more for the 80gb and not just knock it down. Especially since its cheaper to make then the 60gb and their sales are on fire since the drop to 499.

People have been mad at Sony before and the PS2 got its share of bad press. Nothing changes a bunch of sheeps minds like success and so far Sony is doing all the right things, locking in exclusives, dropping prices, New IPs, and making games that are living up to the hype.

But nice try to try and invent bad news.....

Javy03

Exactly, And how about the rumoured 40Gb PS3?

I think the amazon sellout and various stores selling out says otherwise.NobuoMusicMaker

You never hesitate to make an entrance on defending the PS3.... :shock:

EDIT: You, Ibukininja, and that Cyan??? whatever the **** the last symbols in his name is always show up as predicted. Like the Sony PR Defense Squad... :lol:

Yes this is old news to us, but this is a mainstream investing site. Looks like sony's $100 "price cut" isn't going to set well with investors and consumers.

http://msn.fool.com/investing/general/2007/07/18/sonys-ps3-clearance-sale.aspx?logvisit=y&source=eedmsnlnk0010001

Several of Sony's moves over the last couple of years haven't exactly engendered consumers' goodwill. Rootkits, fake blogs -- is this the right way to treat customers? The Financial Times reported that Sony's phaseout resulted in consumer rants on gaming sites.

Still, Sony shareholders, or anybody who's considering the stock, should think long and hard about its recent PR blunders. In addition to suggesting serious strategy confusion at Sony, their effect on consumers' opinions of the company's motives shouldn't be ignored.

mikasa

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[QUOTE="mikasa"]When sony confirms that then we can almost believe it. You never know they could just be lying to keep people calm.mikasa

Yes but do u think your average xbox 360 owner and others that dont own a pc and online know the high number of percentage of defective xbox 360's?

Oh I see so 360's faults absolve Sony of theirs. That as I said earlier is pure damage control.

http://www.fastsilicon.com/latest-news/microsoft-admits-all-xbox360s-are-defective.html?Itemid=60

Nah this is damage control, and if u still wanna stick up for MS and see them have there way with our systems and see them laughing while they milk us then u my friend is beyond damage control.

Their stock is still $20 higher per share than Microsofts and they are still profitable overall as a company, I don't think they need to worry too much.

Does the "price drop" (but not really) annoy me? Sure, but its still a good move as it allows more people to be able to afford it right now and if they unbundle the 80GB and sell it for $499 (which is just speculation right now) thats a good move too. Sony has a bit of momentum starting up right now and I don't think they need to worry too much.

So you're claiming this article is GOOD NEWS for Sony? :roll:

Wow. Amazing at how one could read that article and claim it was anything but bad news. They lose their 1st place good name to Coke. And they have another PR blunder, but yeah...it's good news. :roll:

mikasa

Microsoft is currently #8 in that polling, so I guess Microsoft is going to quit making consoles one month from now, right?

Besides that MSN is a Fool.com "friend" and they've already had one of their financial theories debunked, how is this website reliable at all with regards to Sony news?

Seriously, how long did you search for this? The entire thread is more or less just a trolling thread.

Accurate or not doesn't matter. This is not a gaming site reporting this news. Perception is reality...and people aren't happy with it.

mikasa

Uhuh..directly from that article you can find one that is begging Microsoft to not cut the Xbox brand due to all their recent failures and quotes the Financial Times as advocating such a move, but you don't see me using that as a bludgeon.

Their stock is still $20 higher per share than Microsofts and they are still profitable overall as a company, I don't think they need to worry too much.

Does the "price drop" (but not really) annoy me? Sure, but its still a good move as it allows more people to be able to afford it right now and if they unbundle the 80GB and sell it for $499 (which is just speculation right now) thats a good move too. Sony has a bit of momentum starting up right now and I don't think they need to worry too much.

Runningflame570

You really don't understand the stock market do you? You realize Market cap is what determines how succesful a company stock is. Also it's mostly about trending for buyers/investors.

I can have a stock priced at $500 but only 1 share of it available so my market cap is $500. Or I can have 50million shares at $1 and my market cap is $50 million.