Sony, loosing it

Sony is definetly feeling it this gen. The wii and the 360 are ahead in sales and software sales and, althought the PSP is promising a "come back" this year, it has been slowing down for quite a while since last year, being dominated by the DS in all aspects.

It would make sense for a company like sony to try and get as much marketplace as they can before its too late and take again the position they had in the last two gens. But the job has proved to be quite difficult for them. Seems like some Sony representative are loosing their cool. Check this out.

wow...

I'll be honest, I still can' believe how the creators of the AMAZING PS2 aren't reigning and owning everyone. It's sad, but I still enjoy the PS3, it's just I wish Sony was like it used to be.

Old, and Sony is doing just fine, with an onslaught of game announcements this year. It's been rocky up until now, but they are really managing to pull it together.

I think they're doing fine.

Oh, and the PSP hasn't been slowing down. But if it has, have you seen the already announced line up for 2009-2010?

Well, it is pretty arrogant to try to insult the DS, when the psp really hasn't really realeased anything interesting for a while. I just wish Sony would come out with games, instead of blowing smoke. I could use something new to play!

-_- ugh...

how many times are people going to post about the same thing?

I hardly think PS3 owners are affected by this with the plethora of good looking games coming. PSP owners, well, I suppose some are having fun with the backlog :PIronBass

Man I wish I had money. Its so hard to choose between a console game or handheld. I want prinny,but that would effect me getting another game on my PS3 later on. Im happy support poped up this year for the psp. Since last year was just bad.

lol.. sony is coming back harder than anyone thought possible. this year belongs to sony: MGS4, LBP, Killzone2, Resistance2 - and sony hasnt even started dropping the heavy hitters yet GT5, God Of War... the 360 is doomedthetruespin

The link doesn't seem that out of the ordinary to me...

[QUOTE="thetruespin"]lol.. sony is coming back harder than anyone thought possible. this year belongs to sony: MGS4, LBP, Killzone2, Resistance2 - and sony hasnt even started dropping the heavy hitters yet GT5, God Of War... the 360 is doomedIronBass

.... the 360 really does seem to be aging badly... and, in contrast, the ps3 has an exciting future.thetruespin

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="thetruespin"]lol.. sony is coming back harder than anyone thought possible. this year belongs to sony: MGS4, LBP, Killzone2, Resistance2 - and sony hasnt even started dropping the heavy hitters yet GT5, God Of War... the 360 is doomedthetruespin

yeah i think that's the main point. The 360 is a good system but it doesn't seem to have the lasting power of the PS3 at this point (things could change at E3 but i doubt it). Whether microsoft will put most of its attention towards the new xbox in a couple years or what, i just feel that ultimately when you look back at this generation (5-6 years from now), i'd be shocked if the PS3 hasn't outsold the 360 by a resonable margain.

[QUOTE="sixringz1"] i'd be shocked if the PS3 hasn't outsold the 360 by a resonable margain.IronBass

people pay £200 for a gamecube in a new shell

nothing is impossible...

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="sixringz1"] i'd be shocked if the PS3 hasn't outsold the 360 by a resonable margain.thetruespin

people pay £200 for a gamecube in a new shell

nothing is impossible...

[QUOTE="thetruespin"].... the 360 really does seem to be aging badly... and, in contrast, the ps3 has an exciting future.IronBass

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="thetruespin"].... the 360 really does seem to be aging badly... and, in contrast, the ps3 has an exciting future.ermacness

[QUOTE="ermacness"]

[QUOTE="IronBass"] If you mean sales-wise: not. Game-wise: is completely subjective.IronBass

Old, and Sony is doing just fine, with an onslaught of game announcements this year. It's been rocky up until now, but they are really managing to pull it together.

lundy86_4

3 billion in losses and counting. What on Earth makes you think they're doing "just fine"?

all sony needs to do is drop the price. It's not like the ps3 NEVER outsold the 360 in NA. As a matter of fact, the 360 didn't start outselling the ps3 again until the price dropermacness

[QUOTE="ermacness"]all sony needs to do is drop the price. It's not like the ps3 NEVER outsold the 360 in NA. As a matter of fact, the 360 didn't start outselling the ps3 again until the price dropIronBass

Don't bother. People seem to think the PS3 is some magic machine that can defy simple logic. There's no reasoning with them.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Old, and Sony is doing just fine, with an onslaught of game announcements this year. It's been rocky up until now, but they are really managing to pull it together.

Menalque2

3 billion in losses and counting. What on Earth makes you think they're doing "just fine"?

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="ermacness"]all sony needs to do is drop the price. It's not like the ps3 NEVER outsold the 360 in NA. As a matter of fact, the 360 didn't start outselling the ps3 again until the price dropActicEdge

Don't bother. People seem to think the PS3 is some magic machine that can defy simple logic. There's no reasoning with them.

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="ermacness"]all sony needs to do is drop the price. It's not like the ps3 NEVER outsold the 360 in NA. As a matter of fact, the 360 didn't start outselling the ps3 again until the price dropActicEdge

Don't bother. People seem to think the PS3 is some magic machine that can defy simple logic. There's no reasoning with them.

There's no reasoning with lems. They tout sales, only to be getting beat by the wii. It's lems who are teh blind

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

The question is not what Sony needs or not, the questions are if they will can/will do it on time, or how MS would respond. As a matter of fact, the 360 is profitable, the PS3 not. That gives MS a huge advantage over Sony on the price war.IronBass

Don't bother. People seem to think the PS3 is some magic machine that can defy simple logic. There's no reasoning with them.

There's no reasoning with lems. They tout sales, only to be getting beat by the wii. It's lems who are teh blind

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="IronBass"] The question is not what Sony needs or not, the questions are if they will can/will do it on time, or how MS would respond. As a matter of fact, the 360 is profitable, the PS3 not. That gives MS a huge advantage over Sony on the price war.IronBass

Don't bother. People seem to think the PS3 is some magic machine that can defy simple logic. There's no reasoning with them.

[QUOTE="sixringz1"] i'd be shocked if the PS3 hasn't outsold the 360 by a resonable margain.IronBass

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Don't bother. People seem to think the PS3 is some magic machine that can defy simple logic. There's no reasoning with them.

just my opinionsixringz1

Sony is doing great in Japan, and i think that will follow in North America. Lems are just too stubborn to admit that the ps3 really is a great system with amazing exclusives and a LOT going for it.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="IronBass"] The question is not what Sony needs or not, the questions are if they will can/will do it on time, or how MS would respond. As a matter of fact, the 360 is profitable, the PS3 not. That gives MS a huge advantage over Sony on the price war.ermacness

Don't bother. People seem to think the PS3 is some magic machine that can defy simple logic. There's no reasoning with them.

There's no reasoning with lems. They tout sales, only to be getting beat by the wii. It's lems who are teh blind

I laugh at you thinking I'm a lemming but anway. You think a pricedrop is gonna save Sony just cause they got some good games? MS has a 7 million console advantage and are PROFITING off of each 360 sold. Sony can't say the same, they are DOWN YTD this year compared to last year. You think they will make back a 7 million disadvantage in 2 - 3 years with MSs current situation better than theirs? Don't waste my time with games, we are talking sales here so stay relevant to the topic.

[QUOTE="ermacness"]

[QUOTE="IronBass"] Yeah. For what I heard, Sony fans were expecting the PS3 (a $200 more expensive console) to outsell the 360 (around 6 millions advantage) only four months after launch :lol: I guess we must be happy they have changed to "until the end of the gen".IronBass

[QUOTE="ermacness"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Don't bother. People seem to think the PS3 is some magic machine that can defy simple logic. There's no reasoning with them.

ActicEdge

There's no reasoning with lems. They tout sales, only to be getting beat by the wii. It's lems who are teh blind

I laugh at you thinking I'm a lemming but anway. You think a pricedrop is gonna save Sony just cause they got some good games? MS has a 7 million console advantage and are PROFITING off of each 360 sold. Sony can't say the same, they are DOWN YTD this year compared to last year. You think they will make back a 7 million disadvantage in 2 - 3 years with MSs current situation better than theirs? Don't waste my time with games, we are talking sales here so stay relevant to the topic.

[QUOTE="Menalque2"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Old, and Sony is doing just fine, with an onslaught of game announcements this year. It's been rocky up until now, but they are really managing to pull it together.

ermacness

3 billion in losses and counting. What on Earth makes you think they're doing "just fine"?

This isn't a dig at the system's software library, but come on. Microsoft may have accrued a colossal £4 billion in losses last gen, but they are one of the few firms on the face of the Earth that can get away with it and on top of that, they managed to establish a userbase.

All Sony have done this gen is lose their marketshare and lose their third party support. Those "top tier" devs you're talking about are mostly first party Sony developers. The exceptions to this rule have been Sega and Konami who release a PS3 exclusive once in a blue moon.

actually, we're talking about SONY losing it - and games ARE relevant to the topic. No games = losing, Games = not losing - you seem to be quite subjective with what you think relevance is.spence1988

actually, we're talking about SONY losing it - and games ARE relevant to the topic. No games = losing, Games = not losing - you seem to be quite subjective with what you think relevance is.spence1988

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="ermacness"]and i bet you that you're one of those people who thhought that m$ had a better year with exclusives in 08:lol:

There's no reasoning with lems. They tout sales, only to be getting beat by the wii. It's lems who are teh blind

ermacness

I laugh at you thinking I'm a lemming but anway. You think a pricedrop is gonna save Sony just cause they got some good games? MS has a 7 million console advantage and are PROFITING off of each 360 sold. Sony can't say the same, they are DOWN YTD this year compared to last year. You think they will make back a 7 million disadvantage in 2 - 3 years with MSs current situation better than theirs? Don't waste my time with games, we are talking sales here so stay relevant to the topic.

Well the post I'm quoting is about sales so what do you want me to say? If you want to discuss games go make a thread and we'll talk to you there. Heck if you do it now I'll be up for a debate.

[QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="Menalque2"]

3 billion in losses and counting. What on Earth makes you think they're doing "just fine"?

Menalque2

This isn't a dig at the system's software library, but come on. Microsoft may have accrued a colossal £4 billion in losses last gen, but they are one of the few firms on the face of the Earth that can get away with it and on top of that, they managed to establish a userbase.

All Sony have done this gen is lose their marketshare and lose their third party support. Those "top tier" devs you're talking about are mostly first party Sony developers. The exceptions to this rule have been Sega and Konami who release a PS3 exclusive once in a blue moon.

Sony's PR department is embarassing themselves.

[QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

I laugh at you thinking I'm a lemming but anway. You think a pricedrop is gonna save Sony just cause they got some good games? MS has a 7 million console advantage and are PROFITING off of each 360 sold. Sony can't say the same, they are DOWN YTD this year compared to last year. You think they will make back a 7 million disadvantage in 2 - 3 years with MSs current situation better than theirs? Don't waste my time with games, we are talking sales here so stay relevant to the topic.

ActicEdge

Well the post I'm quoting is about sales so what do you want me to say? If you want to discuss games go make a thread and we'll talk to you there. Heck if you do it now I'll be up for a debate.