Sony made a comeback, Nintendo made a comeback, can MS make a comeback?

PS1 and PS2 were insanely successful. PS1 had 100+ million units sold while PS2 was 150+ million. They dominated the gaming market. But then Sony lost tons of market share with the PS3, and the initial launch was considered a flop. Sony learned a hard lesson, and made a huge comeback towards the end of that gen and then caught on fire with the PS4, which is currently on pace to break the console record for most units sold in history. Nintendo had a similar loss going from the Wii to the Wii U. I mean, the Wii U was a complete dud, not even comparably to the PS3's failure, but that's behind us now. Now, the Switch is tearing it up, although it's still too early to tell, it is still on pace to have a record year. For MS, the X360 was its first widely popular console. It managed to hold its weight for its time. MS then tried to change the console formula with the X1, and the launch was a complete flop. They gave up on Kinect, and they gave up on an all digital future. To think at some point an MS executive said that if a gamer wanted a traditional console experience, "get an 360", was a low point for MS. It took about a year to recover, and MS has made amends in many ways with many improvements for the X1, but they are still a ways to go before they have the success they once had. Will MS ever reach those heights again, SW? Let us know your thoughts.

Only time will tell. We'll just have to wait for the Scorpio to see how it does. It will have the benefit of being the new hot system due to the PS4 Pro and the Nintendo Switch releasing much earlier. If it doesn't have a shit ton of AAA games to back it up though it's gonna sink like a big shiny golden boat

A Nintendo comeback? lol. When did this happen?

No one is going anywhere this gen but Sony. Sony won and there's no room for anyone else. The others will see trickle sales for the next few years while sony dominates.

when the ceo tells your consumers to get a 360 if they can't get online i knew it was completely over guy was outa touch with reality

I dont think Sony can recover from the massive Vita failure. Microsoft should be able to take back America since it will have the worlds most powerful console. Nintendo will have to live up to the 3DS's success.

maybe i think so. it depends on the games scorpio will have. a nice halo 6 would do well

Im not big on Xbox but I don't want them to just make a scorpio, I want them to bring the thunder with new 1st party franchises made not bought and get their feet wet in genre they're not used to

Microsoft:Comeback from what?

@iandizion713: Yeah that Vita failure sure destroyed all the momentum Sony had...Now read that in the most sarcastic voice possible.

@SolidGame_basic: Nintendo made a comeback by creating artificial shortages of Switch consoles? Oh.

Yeah, that Wii U sure did slow 3DS sales. Now tell why you care?

Gets them everytime..just too easy

Yeah, shortages so short its one of the fastest selling consoles ever made.

Is this just trolling, or do you all actually believe this dumb shit?

@iandizion713: Every other console release is "one of the fastest selling consoles ever made". If Nintendoh™ could produce an adequate amount of Switch units, maybe it could've actually been THE fastest selling console ever made.

They already upped their production by anywhere from 10-20% of their original estimate. I don't think you understand how manufacturing works.

Not sure if it'll make a comeback, but it should help them maintain their market footing instead of letting it slip further. More importantly to me though is that it enhances my personal satisfaction with the platform. I mean, adding BC to the XB1 has done a lot to improve my satisfaction with the XB1; hasn't made a lick of difference in their market position, but I personally find this of tremendous value to owning an XB1. I imagine gaming on a beastlier console will do quite a lot for me on that end.

@charizard1605: Nintendo understands manufacturing so well that they stopped production of the NES Classic after 6 months and were never able to meet demand for it.

NINTENDOH™ TEH MANUFACTURING GODZ.

The NES Classic was handled like trash, I'm not arguing about that. But to argue that something that sold 2.4 million units in 28 days was 'understocked' is so ridiculous I don't even know how to react.

@SolidGame_basic: In terms of sales, they aren't going to catch the PS4. They can increase their sales, but it still won't be enough to catch the PS4. There are just to many Sony fanboys who don't care about the XB1 and aren't going to buy the system. Especially in the foreign countries. Microsoft needs to bring their exclusives back to XB1/Scorpio and forget the PC side. Make new PC exclusives for the PC and keep XB1 franchises on the XBox platform.

Gamer's waited 10 years for new consoles. I doubt we see sales like it again for a long time.

PS4 pro and Scorpio is for gamers who playing games everyday and buy games for it every month.

Microsoft and Sony seem to more interested in mid gen refreshes now, continuing sales year on year. I would not be surprised if Sony next console is another refresh.

Can Microsoft close the gap? I think they can if internet hypes Scorpio and trashes Playstation. I know it sounds awful but the majority of the gamer's are attracted to the next best thing.

Nintendo Switch is going to sell to it's base at launch and months afterwards.

We have to see how it's doing next year, will momentum slowdown?

I purchase games every couple of weeks for my orig PS4 and X1 ( physical or digital ) and I ain't purchasing neither PS4 pro nor X1 scorpio.

You have to be in last to make a comeback. Nintendo still has that baton.

Don't recall the PS3 launch being a flop. Idiotic and poorly handled, but not a flop. The thing still sold, in spite of Sony's missteps.

How does one come back from never being away?

It depends if they release new IPs that interest the PS4 crowd, because the people who wanted the Xbox over PS4 are the 30 million users that own a X1

Sorry you had a typo.

MS on a roll doing as good or better than what they did with 360 and making billions upon billions with MS stock prices through the roof and soon launching the most incredible hardware seen by mankind, Mighty Scorpio, so ummm, nothing to come back from but whatever helps you sleep at night. :P

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@Pedro said:

@SecretPolice said:

MS on a roll doing as good or better than what they did with 360 and making billions upon billions with MS stock prices through the roof and soon launching the most incredible hardware seen by mankind, Mighty Scorpio, so ummm, nothing to come back from but whatever helps you sleep at night. :P

Thanks boo boo....

They just don't have the tools to make a comeback. If they started buying up every studio in sight, that would be a sign they seriously bolsters their first party, but that doesn't seem to have happened.

At the end of the day, their first party is 343, Turn 10, Coalition, and Rare... and 3 of those only make one franchise - and Rare likely being sidelined for SoT for some time.

@ConanTheStoner:

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It's all about the games. Games, games, and more games! Nintendo can't pull the same shit they did with the Wii U and release 2 AAA-titles every year. They are going to need to come out with a lot more if they want it to be more than just a Zelda/Mario-box and get more sales. Same with Microsoft. Come out with more games than just new Halo and Gears. Look at Sony. So many exclusives already this year and it is only May.

I really doubt the Scorpio, despite all of its processing power given its specs, will sell worth a damn if it doesn't have a kickass launch title or two like the Switch had with Zelda. All of that power doesn't mean shit if there are hardly any games or any exciting/established IPs.

Lets wait and see what MS bring to E3 this year. Hopefully they don't waiste their time focused on selling Scorpio hardware, and show off some true, nextgen, new IP based exclusive* games.

* Exclusive to MS platform, unlikely to be locked to specific hardware.

I wouldn't say Nintendo made a comeback until the Switch sells more than the Wii U did.

I think MS can make a comeback, not with Scorpio per say but with fresh new ip made by them and not old ip made by another studio

@Celsius765: Ha, well, I could fly if I had wings.

Yeah let bring the PORTABLE market which sony never not once dominated,to try to save face for MS..

Taking america mean nothings in fact the gap between the PS4 and xbox on is small in US but huge every where else,this market is not about just winning 1 country that is some bullshit theory invented again by lemmings to try to claim some kind of victory that never was a victory to begin with.

By the way this thread is bookmarked for future fun making..lol

3DS sales are a joke compare to what the DS had sold by this time on its life cycle,by a huge gap,so the wii U sold horrible and the 3DS sold bad as well 60+ millions in 6+ years is a joke on the portable market for nintendo in fact the 3DS is selling inline with the PS3 which is extremely odd,hell i think even a little slower the PS3 sold 70 million in 6 years.

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/sony-ps3-game-console-ps2,19148.html

The 3DS has like 67 million in over 6 years.

The DS sold 129 million in 5 years and 6 months...lol

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/wii-sales-near-71-million-ds-almost-129-million/1100-6261400/

With 7 less months of sales than the 3DS the DS sold double basically of the 3DS.

I know many people give a hard time here to sony because of the PS3,but come on the 3DS is doing even worse than the PS3 did,and the DS sold 152 million units close to the PS2 numbers.

The 3DS is a huge failure by the same standard the PS3 was yet most people don't give nintendo a hard time for it,and is because no matter how bad the 3DS did the wii U is by far the worse performing Nintendo console ever.

I agree with this 100% the xbox should be the house of Halo,Forza Gears and other exclusives,it is a selling point period scorpio look powerful now but not matter what PC will always be more,even more there is an added benefit of PC which is not having to pay for xbox live,which i also think it is highly unfair to loyal xbox fans who have paid for years and help MS.

Switch is selling really well but I think it's too early to declare a comeback. I think it's better to wait to see how well they are doing a year from now before declaring that. I'm hopeful that they are successful with the Switch though. It will be nice to see them do well again.

MS on the other hand, is not gonna be making any comebacks this gen. It's too late for that and PS4 is too far ahead in sales. Flopio is a mid-gen upgrade going after a niche audience. It's going after people that want power and game on their Xbox heavily but don't wanna invest in a PC that has all the power and Xbox games. It's a very small segment of the gaming population and isn't gonna move the needle much. They need games, a ton of them and even that won't be able to help them overtake the PS4 that is light years ahead in sales. They should cut their losses and start preparing for next gen when the PS5 arrives because this gen belongs to Sony.

@jv303: not sure what you're trying to say but what I say is true. Scorpio will just be a stepping stone toward ms offering a better experience over previous x1 models but without fresh new games utilizing that boost in power it'll be hard for consumers to tell if Scorpio is worth it. And who better to show consumers than Xbox first party studios. Dated ips might not be enough and MS too rich to need to buy someone else's work in order to sell Xbox.

MS' comeback started last E3. Remember all the meltdowns cows were having around here when Xbox outsold PS4 for three months after E3?

Que the responses about how three months means nothing, its still ahead by millions blah blah blah. That has nothing to do with the point that MS has been on the upswing and its only going to continue this E3. Better mid gen upgrade, Xbox Game Pass, Play Anywhere, true BC, Preview, Creators Update are all features better than anything the competition offers.

They already lost this gen sales wise. At this point its not about trying to win it but rebuilding and being more competitive next gen. Which I think they've positioned themselves pretty well to do.

MS' biggest hurdle is getting the media to stop fanboying for Sony and at least give them unbiased coverage. Which wont happen until they deliver some games that are harder to hate.

"The media is biased" - the evergreen cry of the unpopular.

@jv303: Shut up Meg.

@oflow: Shut up Wesley.

@oflow said:

MS' comeback started last E3. Remember all the meltdowns cows were having around here when Xbox outsold PS4 for three months after E3?

What meltdowns? We all basically predicted the XBOS would outsold the PS4,it was a slim model which do spark sales,in fact when the slim PS3 release it outsold the xbox 360 as well,it was nothing.

The problem was you lemmings acting as if that would stick and the xbox one would continue to outsold it from then on..lol

hopefully sony stays their ass out of the handheld market so that nintendo can have a monopoly on it!

It might happen too because with scorpio coming. sony is already working hard to counter it....they will forget all about handhelds.....muahahaha