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#1 PS4TrumpsXbox1
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Looks like Sony is making PS + even better with Ps4 coming so soon. It was already announced that PS4 comes with 14 day free trials but ps+ now also includes 3GB of free space in the cloud (previous was 2GB). Also, Driveclub and Resogun come to instant game collection. Another sweetener is if you sign up beyone Aug 22, you get 90 days free. So for people that dont have it, does this make you want to try it? Does this increase the value of it for those that have it? Another interesting tidbit is that IGN found that the total savings from having a one year subscription is just under 900 bucks (for games, DLC, themes etc) http://cumberlink.com/news/opinion/blogs/high_score_gaming/gaming-blog-sony-makes-playstation-plus-a-sweet-deal-for/article_64eeb412-0c3b-11e3-a4dc-0019bb2963f4.html
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Correct me if I am wrong, but the version of DriveClub that you get from PS+ is not the full, actual game, right?
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Correct me if I am wrong, but the version of DriveClub that you get from PS+ is not the full, actual game, right?charizard1605
I dont think so, there will probably be some aspects of the game that will be locked im sure with the ps plus version but hearing resogun is gonna be free was a nice surprise
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You have access to an unlimited amount of cloud space on the xbox one so sony is not winning the cloud wars.And a 1GB increase is terrible.

http://www.techspot.com/news/53403-xbox-one-will-come-with-unlimited-cloud-storage.html

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#5 ManatuBeard
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The 3 months extra is a great deal, sadly i have plus till 28th december. Cant use that offer.

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You have access to an unlimited amount of cloud space on the xbox one so sony is not winning the cloud wars.And a 1GB increase is terrible.

http://www.techspot.com/news/53403-xbox-one-will-come-with-unlimited-cloud-storage.html

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The cloud is used for save games only, 1gb of save data is a lot.
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[QUOTE="super600"]

You have access to an unlimited amount of cloud space on the xbox one so sony is not winning the cloud wars.And a 1GB increase is terrible.

http://www.techspot.com/news/53403-xbox-one-will-come-with-unlimited-cloud-storage.html

soulitane

The cloud is used for save games only, 1gb of save data is a lot.

The article does not state that anywere, but I believe you for now.

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I'm still not clear on what the cloud space can be used for aside from game saves, because 3gb just for that is way overkill.

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#9 Serial_Killa
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The 3 months extra is a great deal, sadly i have plus till 28th december. Cant use that offer.ManatuBeard

 

Why not? My plus was active till the 12th of December so I just bought the one year with 90 day bonus today and now I am paid up until the 12th of March 2015. It adds on to your current subscription.

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PS+ is going to suck ass at first, but when it matures, MS have to think of a suitable response. Once it gains traction they have no chance against it.

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#11 ManatuBeard
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[QUOTE="ManatuBeard"]

The 3 months extra is a great deal, sadly i have plus till 28th december. Cant use that offer.Serial_Killa

 

Why not? My plus was active till the 12th of December so I just bought the one year with 90 day bonus today and now I am paid up until the 12th of March 2015. It adds on to your current subscription.

It does????????

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Edit: I got it after xmas because it had a 25% discount for 1 year, i guess that paying normal price and getting 25% extra ends up being the same thing.

Edit 2: Couldn't resist... and couldn´t risk getting to December and having no discount this year (with PS4 out late Nov, no discount for sure!)... so there goes 49,99!! PSN+ till 29/03/15 yay!

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The cloud space is just for game saves. It's overkill for me. I think it's mainly going to be useful for game industry people who regularly play like 4 different versions of games on 10 different consoles and are forced to have dozens of saves for picture/video and also play like every game released. They might need that extra gig.
Correct me if I am wrong, but the version of DriveClub that you get from PS+ is not the full, actual game, right?charizard1605
You're correct. Anything with the "PS+ Edition" tag means you're getting an extended demo and you have to DLC/Microtransaction your way to the full retail product. I don't know if PS4 PS+ is going to be as good as it was on PS3. They've attached online multiplayer to it. That is the main selling point. That will get more people subbing than IGC ever did. Because of that, I wonder if they'll feel like *anything* on top of multiplayer is pure bonus/value and that PS+ Editions of retail games is more than enough of a value add and restrict free full versions to indie games. It wouldn't shock me if they were telling people to make their games in a really modular way where they can easily remove content to quickly create a PS+ Edition.
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Correct me if I am wrong, but the version of DriveClub that you get from PS+ is not the full, actual game, right?charizard1605
Invisible Walls said Sony is making a big deal out of it but in reality it is only a demo.
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The cloud space is just for game saves. It's overkill for me. I think it's mainly going to be useful for game industry people who regularly play like 4 different versions of games on 10 different consoles and are forced to have dozens of saves for picture/video and also play like every game released. They might need that extra gig. [QUOTE="charizard1605"]Correct me if I am wrong, but the version of DriveClub that you get from PS+ is not the full, actual game, right?Senor_Kami
You're correct. Anything with the "PS+ Edition" tag means you're getting an extended demo and you have to DLC/Microtransaction your way to the full retail product. I don't know if PS4 PS+ is going to be as good as it was on PS3. They've attached online multiplayer to it. That is the main selling point. That will get more people subbing than IGC ever did. Because of that, I wonder if they'll feel like *anything* on top of multiplayer is pure bonus/value and that PS+ Editions of retail games is more than enough of a value add and restrict free full versions to indie games. It wouldn't shock me if they were telling people to make their games in a really modular way where they can easily remove content to quickly create a PS+ Edition.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if PS+ loses a lot of its value, for the reasons you stated. 

Most people who buy a PS4 will buy PS+ just to play multiplayer, so there isn't a huge incentive for Sony to be giving out a lot of good free games in addition to that. They've already got you. My guess is that they'll still give out some free games, but it isn't going to be anything like it was on the PS3. 

Hopefully I'm wrong, but I doubt it. 

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paying for online from 2004 to 2012 = huge rip off.

paying for online from 2013 on = huge value.

:lol:

 

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paying for online from 2004 to 2012 = huge rip off.

paying for online from 2013 on = huge value.

:lol:

 

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PS Plus is way better value than XBL
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[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

paying for online from 2004 to 2012 = huge rip off.

paying for online from 2013 on = huge value.

:lol:

 

marklarmer

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nobody is happy with it... we just all knew it was inevitable. With "online" being on demand so much, same with dedicated servers, there is no way MP would stay free next gen since servers are expensive.

That partnership Sony made with Rackspace for servers has to be paid by someone...

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[QUOTE="marklarmer"]

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

paying for online from 2004 to 2012 = huge rip off.

paying for online from 2013 on = huge value.

:lol:

 

ManatuBeard

cows gonna cow

nobody is happy with it... we just all knew it was inevitable. With "online" being on demand so much, same with dedicated servers, there is no way MP would stay free next gen since servers are expensive.

That partnership Sony made with Rackspace for servers has to be paid by someone...

Most people saw this coming but not "cows"
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[QUOTE="ManatuBeard"]

[QUOTE="marklarmer"]cows gonna cow

onewiththegame

nobody is happy with it... we just all knew it was inevitable. With "online" being on demand so much, same with dedicated servers, there is no way MP would stay free next gen since servers are expensive.

That partnership Sony made with Rackspace for servers has to be paid by someone...

Most people saw this coming but not "cows"

It's still a HUGE rip off. But what can one do, it's the lesser evil. PSN+ is still the best online service for consoles.
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[QUOTE="onewiththegame"][QUOTE="ManatuBeard"]

nobody is happy with it... we just all knew it was inevitable. With "online" being on demand so much, same with dedicated servers, there is no way MP would stay free next gen since servers are expensive.

That partnership Sony made with Rackspace for servers has to be paid by someone...

Suppaman100
Most people saw this coming but not "cows"

It's still a HUGE rip off. But what can one do, it's the lesser evil. PSN+ is still the best online service for consoles.

I wouldn't say it's the best maybe the best value but psn is still behind live when it comes to features and download speeds
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You have access to an unlimited amount of cloud space on the xbox one so sony is not winning the cloud wars.And a 1GB increase is terrible.

http://www.techspot.com/news/53403-xbox-one-will-come-with-unlimited-cloud-storage.html

super600
save games only and only if you have an xbox live account.
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#23 Chris_Williams
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[QUOTE="onewiththegame"][QUOTE="Suppaman100"][QUOTE="onewiththegame"] Most people saw this coming but not "cows"

It's still a HUGE rip off. But what can one do, it's the lesser evil. PSN+ is still the best online service for consoles.

I wouldn't say it's the best maybe the best value but psn is still behind live when it comes to features and download speeds

What are the features that xbox live has over psn?
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#24 Elitro
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paying for online from 2004 to 2012 = huge rip off.

paying for online from 2013 on = huge value.

:lol:

 

Riverwolf007

 

While your arguement isn't incorrect i don't pay for ps+ for online MP, i do it for "free" games that keep me from buying new ones whenever i get bored of my current ones...

 

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Correct me if I am wrong, but the version of DriveClub that you get from PS+ is not the full, actual game, right?timbers_WSU
Invisible Walls said Sony is making a big deal out of it but in reality it is only a demo.

This sucks thou :/ But i understand that giving away a full free game for just about everyone was a bit over the top... i still wish this was handled like MS handled the Fifa bundle, a free game for pre-orders seems like a suitable reward for the costumers who banked their trust in your product day 1

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[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"][QUOTE="onewiththegame"][QUOTE="Suppaman100"] It's still a HUGE rip off. But what can one do, it's the lesser evil. PSN+ is still the best online service for consoles.

I wouldn't say it's the best maybe the best value but psn is still behind live when it comes to features and download speeds

What are the features that xbox live has over psn?

The biggest missing feature for me is party chat, right now I'm playing Dark Souls on PS3 and I have a buddy who helping me but there is no way for us to communicate so we party chat on the 360 while we play Dark souls so we can talk to each other and make it that much more enjoyable
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[QUOTE="ManatuBeard"]

[QUOTE="marklarmer"]cows gonna cow

onewiththegame

nobody is happy with it... we just all knew it was inevitable. With "online" being on demand so much, same with dedicated servers, there is no way MP would stay free next gen since servers are expensive.

That partnership Sony made with Rackspace for servers has to be paid by someone...

Most people saw this coming but not "cows"

I saw it coming before the Sony reveal in Feb. Cow didn't want to believe it of course.

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I'm still wondering whatever happened to the "PSN will always be free, we'll never pay for PSN" crowd. I know, people, that they aren't charging for anything but the multiplayer. . but if you magically believe that Microsoft will, in the middle of the Xbox One's lifespan, change back to all its loathed policies, then surely Sony will eventually expand what requires PS+.AncientDozer
It's still free as of right now. On the PS4 it will be the same, the only thing that will change is that you will require a PlayStation Plus membership (which is a different service) to play most online multiplayer games with the exception of free to play games. Friends list, Netflix, etc. will not be behind a paywall.

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[QUOTE="AncientDozer"]I'm still wondering whatever happened to the "PSN will always be free, we'll never pay for PSN" crowd. I know, people, that they aren't charging for anything but the multiplayer. . but if you magically believe that Microsoft will, in the middle of the Xbox One's lifespan, change back to all its loathed policies, then surely Sony will eventually expand what requires PS+.ButDuuude

It's still free as of right now. On the PS4 it will be the same, the only thing that will change is that you will require a PlayStation Plus membership (which is a different service) to play most online multiplayer games with the exception of free to play games. Friends list, Netflix, etc. will not be behind a paywall.

Who's friends list is behind a paywall?
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[QUOTE="onewiththegame"][QUOTE="ManatuBeard"]

nobody is happy with it... we just all knew it was inevitable. With "online" being on demand so much, same with dedicated servers, there is no way MP would stay free next gen since servers are expensive.

That partnership Sony made with Rackspace for servers has to be paid by someone...

Suppaman100

Most people saw this coming but not "cows"

It's still a HUGE rip off. But what can one do, it's the lesser evil. PSN+ is still the best online service for consoles.

da best!

not counting last month when it was bricking consoles.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/ps3-firmware-update-445-locking-up-some-consoles-report-6410429

:lol:

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[QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="super600"]

You have access to an unlimited amount of cloud space on the xbox one so sony is not winning the cloud wars.And a 1GB increase is terrible.

http://www.techspot.com/news/53403-xbox-one-will-come-with-unlimited-cloud-storage.html

super600

The cloud is used for save games only, 1gb of save data is a lot.

The article does not state that anywere, but I believe you for now.

That's how it is on the PS3 anyway. Install data has to be on the hardware itself, and I personally would not want my downloaded titles on the cloud.

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[QUOTE="AncientDozer"]I'm still wondering whatever happened to the "PSN will always be free, we'll never pay for PSN" crowd. I know, people, that they aren't charging for anything but the multiplayer. . but if you magically believe that Microsoft will, in the middle of the Xbox One's lifespan, change back to all its loathed policies, then surely Sony will eventually expand what requires PS+.ButDuuude

It's still free as of right now. On the PS4 it will be the same, the only thing that will change is that you will require a PlayStation Plus membership (which is a different service) to play most online multiplayer games with the exception of free to play games. Friends list, Netflix, etc. will not be behind a paywall.

 

It is a shame that they went that direction though, and it also doesn't really make a huge amount of sense.

At least they aren't completely stupid and requiring PSN+ in order to access Hulu+ and Netflix. So if someone is not at all into Call of Duty or Battlefield type shooters, they will still be able to enjoy their movie streaming services as well as single player games and not have to add any other meaningless subscription. 

I still don't really understand why games would arbitrarily be placed behind a paywall. This gen if you play Bad Company 2 or Battlefield 3, you are using EA servers. If you play Call of Duty, you are using peer-to-peer matchmaking. So why are we paying for Xbox live? Unless Sony and Microsoft are taking over 100% of the servers for games (which I doubt, even with the cloud PR stuff I doubt EA is going to want to let Microsoft "run" everything on the server side) - it won't make any more sense next gen.

However at least Sony isn't cheap like Microsoft. you get what you pay for with PSN+ (tons of content). With Live you get next to nothing. 

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[QUOTE="Suppaman100"][QUOTE="onewiththegame"] Most people saw this coming but not "cows"Riverwolf007

It's still a HUGE rip off. But what can one do, it's the lesser evil. PSN+ is still the best online service for consoles.

da best!

not counting last month when it was bricking consoles.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/ps3-firmware-update-445-locking-up-some-consoles-report-6410429

:lol:

 

dat desperation. 

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[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

[QUOTE="Suppaman100"] It's still a HUGE rip off. But what can one do, it's the lesser evil. PSN+ is still the best online service for consoles.2Chalupas

da best!

not counting last month when it was bricking consoles.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/ps3-firmware-update-445-locking-up-some-consoles-report-6410429

:lol:

 

dat desperation. 

don't dc me man.

dude wants to say "the best" and i called him out on how incompetent sony is.

i would think that in order to qualify as the best you may not want to brick peoples consoles.

does that not sound like it should be page one under firmware updating in the how to operate your online system manual?

cuz to me.... that should be a priority....after 6 years of experence for your firmware updates.

that's just me tho, maybe i place too much importance in not bricking your system with a firmware update.

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#37 2Chalupas
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[QUOTE="2Chalupas"]

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"] da best!

not counting last month when it was bricking consoles.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/ps3-firmware-update-445-locking-up-some-consoles-report-6410429

:lol:

Riverwolf007

 

dat desperation. 

don't dc me man.

dude wants to say "the best" and i called him out on how incompetent sony is.

i would think that in order to qualify as the best you may not want to brick peoples consoles.

does that not sound like it should be page one under firmware updating in the how to operate your online system manual?

cuz to me.... that should be a priority....after 6 years of experence for your firmware updates.

that's just me tho, maybe i place too much importance in not bricking your system with a firmware update.

really dude? 

becuase that totally has never happend to an XBOX firmware update.

http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/712745/xbox-360-update-bricks-consoles-microsoft-sending-new-consoles-to-those-affected/

i wonder if Sony's update was botched so bad they had to actually send out new consoles? :lol:

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[QUOTE="onewiththegame"][QUOTE="Chris_Williams"][QUOTE="onewiththegame"] I wouldn't say it's the best maybe the best value but psn is still behind live when it comes to features and download speeds

What are the features that xbox live has over psn?

The biggest missing feature for me is party chat, right now I'm playing Dark Souls on PS3 and I have a buddy who helping me but there is no way for us to communicate so we party chat on the 360 while we play Dark souls so we can talk to each other and make it that much more enjoyable

it exists on the vita and ps4. it's only not on the ps3 due to a hardware limitation. Oh and it doesn't require plus on the vita or ps4.
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#39 super600  Moderator
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[QUOTE="super600"]

You have access to an unlimited amount of cloud space on the xbox one so sony is not winning the cloud wars.And a 1GB increase is terrible.

http://www.techspot.com/news/53403-xbox-one-will-come-with-unlimited-cloud-storage.html

Chris_Williams

save games only and only if you have an xbox live account.

Read the article.

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PSN+ is great, but it's not for me.
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#41 Murderstyle75
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[QUOTE="Senor_Kami"]The cloud space is just for game saves. It's overkill for me. I think it's mainly going to be useful for game industry people who regularly play like 4 different versions of games on 10 different consoles and are forced to have dozens of saves for picture/video and also play like every game released. They might need that extra gig. [QUOTE="charizard1605"]Correct me if I am wrong, but the version of DriveClub that you get from PS+ is not the full, actual game, right?Optical_Order

You're correct. Anything with the "PS+ Edition" tag means you're getting an extended demo and you have to DLC/Microtransaction your way to the full retail product. I don't know if PS4 PS+ is going to be as good as it was on PS3. They've attached online multiplayer to it. That is the main selling point. That will get more people subbing than IGC ever did. Because of that, I wonder if they'll feel like *anything* on top of multiplayer is pure bonus/value and that PS+ Editions of retail games is more than enough of a value add and restrict free full versions to indie games. It wouldn't shock me if they were telling people to make their games in a really modular way where they can easily remove content to quickly create a PS+ Edition.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if PS+ loses a lot of its value, for the reasons you stated. 

Most people who buy a PS4 will buy PS+ just to play multiplayer, so there isn't a huge incentive for Sony to be giving out a lot of good free games in addition to that. They've already got you. My guess is that they'll still give out some free games, but it isn't going to be anything like it was on the PS3. 

Hopefully I'm wrong, but I doubt it. 

I have to disagree. If you look at XBL, the Lems boast about 36 million Live subscribers but what what they are too stupid to realize is this number is a combination of Gold & Silver. Microsoft wont say how many Gold subscribers they have for obvious reasons but the last time they let the number slip a few years ago, it was only about 50% of Live subscribers and about 25% of consoles sold. Despite the popular belief, Online Multiplayer isn't as popular as people think.
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#42 Ricardomz
Member since 2012 • 2715 Posts

I am really thinking on subscribing now. I never did it with my PS3.

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#43 CleanPlayer
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Just got PS+, it's awesome. Love the discounts for the Vita games. No doubt in my mind Microsoft will follow suit. On the other hand, Nintendo will set back and do nothing.
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#44 Pariah_001
Member since 2003 • 4850 Posts

You have access to an unlimited amount of cloud space on the xbox one so sony is not winning the cloud wars.And a 1GB increase is terrible.

http://www.techspot.com/news/53403-xbox-one-will-come-with-unlimited-cloud-storage.html

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There's a cloud war now? Weird.

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#45 mariokart64fan
Member since 2003 • 20828 Posts

nothing beats free