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Correct me if I am wrong, but the version of DriveClub that you get from PS+ is not the full, actual game, right?charizard1605I dont think so, there will probably be some aspects of the game that will be locked im sure with the ps plus version but hearing resogun is gonna be free was a nice surprise
The cloud is used for save games only, 1gb of save data is a lot.You have access to an unlimited amount of cloud space on the xbox one so sony is not winning the cloud wars.And a 1GB increase is terrible.
http://www.techspot.com/news/53403-xbox-one-will-come-with-unlimited-cloud-storage.html
super600
[QUOTE="super600"]The cloud is used for save games only, 1gb of save data is a lot.You have access to an unlimited amount of cloud space on the xbox one so sony is not winning the cloud wars.And a 1GB increase is terrible.
http://www.techspot.com/news/53403-xbox-one-will-come-with-unlimited-cloud-storage.html
soulitane
The article does not state that anywere, but I believe you for now.
I'm still not clear on what the cloud space can be used for aside from game saves, because 3gb just for that is way overkill.
The 3 months extra is a great deal, sadly i have plus till 28th december. Cant use that offer.ManatuBeard
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Why not? My plus was active till the 12th of December so I just bought the one year with 90 day bonus today and now I am paid up until the 12th of March 2015. It adds on to your current subscription.
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The 3 months extra is a great deal, sadly i have plus till 28th december. Cant use that offer.Serial_Killa
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Why not? My plus was active till the 12th of December so I just bought the one year with 90 day bonus today and now I am paid up until the 12th of March 2015. It adds on to your current subscription.
It does????????
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Edit: I got it after xmas because it had a 25% discount for 1 year, i guess that paying normal price and getting 25% extra ends up being the same thing.
Edit 2: Couldn't resist... and couldn´t risk getting to December and having no discount this year (with PS4 out late Nov, no discount for sure!)... so there goes 49,99!! PSN+ till 29/03/15 yay!
Correct me if I am wrong, but the version of DriveClub that you get from PS+ is not the full, actual game, right?charizard1605You're correct. Anything with the "PS+ Edition" tag means you're getting an extended demo and you have to DLC/Microtransaction your way to the full retail product. I don't know if PS4 PS+ is going to be as good as it was on PS3. They've attached online multiplayer to it. That is the main selling point. That will get more people subbing than IGC ever did. Because of that, I wonder if they'll feel like *anything* on top of multiplayer is pure bonus/value and that PS+ Editions of retail games is more than enough of a value add and restrict free full versions to indie games. It wouldn't shock me if they were telling people to make their games in a really modular way where they can easily remove content to quickly create a PS+ Edition.
Correct me if I am wrong, but the version of DriveClub that you get from PS+ is not the full, actual game, right?charizard1605Invisible Walls said Sony is making a big deal out of it but in reality it is only a demo.
The cloud space is just for game saves. It's overkill for me. I think it's mainly going to be useful for game industry people who regularly play like 4 different versions of games on 10 different consoles and are forced to have dozens of saves for picture/video and also play like every game released. They might need that extra gig. [QUOTE="charizard1605"]Correct me if I am wrong, but the version of DriveClub that you get from PS+ is not the full, actual game, right?Senor_KamiYou're correct. Anything with the "PS+ Edition" tag means you're getting an extended demo and you have to DLC/Microtransaction your way to the full retail product. I don't know if PS4 PS+ is going to be as good as it was on PS3. They've attached online multiplayer to it. That is the main selling point. That will get more people subbing than IGC ever did. Because of that, I wonder if they'll feel like *anything* on top of multiplayer is pure bonus/value and that PS+ Editions of retail games is more than enough of a value add and restrict free full versions to indie games. It wouldn't shock me if they were telling people to make their games in a really modular way where they can easily remove content to quickly create a PS+ Edition.
I wouldn't be surprised at all if PS+ loses a lot of its value, for the reasons you stated.Â
Most people who buy a PS4 will buy PS+ just to play multiplayer, so there isn't a huge incentive for Sony to be giving out a lot of good free games in addition to that. They've already got you. My guess is that they'll still give out some free games, but it isn't going to be anything like it was on the PS3.Â
Hopefully I'm wrong, but I doubt it.Â
paying for online from 2004 to 2012 = huge rip off.
paying for online from 2013 on = huge value.
:lol:
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cows gonna cowpaying for online from 2004 to 2012 = huge rip off.
paying for online from 2013 on = huge value.
:lol:
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Riverwolf007
cows gonna cow[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]
paying for online from 2004 to 2012 = huge rip off.
paying for online from 2013 on = huge value.
:lol:
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marklarmer
nobody is happy with it... we just all knew it was inevitable. With "online" being on demand so much, same with dedicated servers, there is no way MP would stay free next gen since servers are expensive.
That partnership Sony made with Rackspace for servers has to be paid by someone...
cows gonna cow[QUOTE="marklarmer"]
[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]
paying for online from 2004 to 2012 = huge rip off.
paying for online from 2013 on = huge value.
:lol:
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ManatuBeard
nobody is happy with it... we just all knew it was inevitable. With "online" being on demand so much, same with dedicated servers, there is no way MP would stay free next gen since servers are expensive.
That partnership Sony made with Rackspace for servers has to be paid by someone...
Most people saw this coming but not "cows"[QUOTE="ManatuBeard"][QUOTE="marklarmer"]cows gonna cow
onewiththegame
nobody is happy with it... we just all knew it was inevitable. With "online" being on demand so much, same with dedicated servers, there is no way MP would stay free next gen since servers are expensive.
That partnership Sony made with Rackspace for servers has to be paid by someone...
Most people saw this coming but not "cows" It's still a HUGE rip off. But what can one do, it's the lesser evil. PSN+ is still the best online service for consoles.[QUOTE="onewiththegame"][QUOTE="ManatuBeard"]Most people saw this coming but not "cows" It's still a HUGE rip off. But what can one do, it's the lesser evil. PSN+ is still the best online service for consoles. I wouldn't say it's the best maybe the best value but psn is still behind live when it comes to features and download speedsnobody is happy with it... we just all knew it was inevitable. With "online" being on demand so much, same with dedicated servers, there is no way MP would stay free next gen since servers are expensive.
That partnership Sony made with Rackspace for servers has to be paid by someone...
Suppaman100
save games only and only if you have an xbox live account.You have access to an unlimited amount of cloud space on the xbox one so sony is not winning the cloud wars.And a 1GB increase is terrible.
http://www.techspot.com/news/53403-xbox-one-will-come-with-unlimited-cloud-storage.html
super600
paying for online from 2004 to 2012 = huge rip off.
paying for online from 2013 on = huge value.
:lol:
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Riverwolf007
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While your arguement isn't incorrect i don't pay for ps+ for online MP, i do it for "free" games that keep me from buying new ones whenever i get bored of my current ones...
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Correct me if I am wrong, but the version of DriveClub that you get from PS+ is not the full, actual game, right?timbers_WSUInvisible Walls said Sony is making a big deal out of it but in reality it is only a demo.
This sucks thou :/ But i understand that giving away a full free game for just about everyone was a bit over the top... i still wish this was handled like MS handled the Fifa bundle, a free game for pre-orders seems like a suitable reward for the costumers who banked their trust in your product day 1
[QUOTE="ManatuBeard"][QUOTE="marklarmer"]cows gonna cow
onewiththegame
nobody is happy with it... we just all knew it was inevitable. With "online" being on demand so much, same with dedicated servers, there is no way MP would stay free next gen since servers are expensive.
That partnership Sony made with Rackspace for servers has to be paid by someone...
Most people saw this coming but not "cows"I saw it coming before the Sony reveal in Feb. Cow didn't want to believe it of course.
I'm still wondering whatever happened to the "PSN will always be free, we'll never pay for PSN" crowd. I know, people, that they aren't charging for anything but the multiplayer. . but if you magically believe that Microsoft will, in the middle of the Xbox One's lifespan, change back to all its loathed policies, then surely Sony will eventually expand what requires PS+.AncientDozerIt's still free as of right now. On the PS4 it will be the same, the only thing that will change is that you will require a PlayStation Plus membership (which is a different service) to play most online multiplayer games with the exception of free to play games. Friends list, Netflix, etc. will not be behind a paywall.
It's still free as of right now. On the PS4 it will be the same, the only thing that will change is that you will require a PlayStation Plus membership (which is a different service) to play most online multiplayer games with the exception of free to play games. Friends list, Netflix, etc. will not be behind a paywall. Who's friends list is behind a paywall?[QUOTE="AncientDozer"]I'm still wondering whatever happened to the "PSN will always be free, we'll never pay for PSN" crowd. I know, people, that they aren't charging for anything but the multiplayer. . but if you magically believe that Microsoft will, in the middle of the Xbox One's lifespan, change back to all its loathed policies, then surely Sony will eventually expand what requires PS+.ButDuuude
[QUOTE="onewiththegame"][QUOTE="ManatuBeard"]Most people saw this coming but not "cows" It's still a HUGE rip off. But what can one do, it's the lesser evil. PSN+ is still the best online service for consoles. da best!nobody is happy with it... we just all knew it was inevitable. With "online" being on demand so much, same with dedicated servers, there is no way MP would stay free next gen since servers are expensive.
That partnership Sony made with Rackspace for servers has to be paid by someone...
Suppaman100
not counting last month when it was bricking consoles.
http://www.gamespot.com/news/ps3-firmware-update-445-locking-up-some-consoles-report-6410429
:lol:
The cloud is used for save games only, 1gb of save data is a lot.[QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="super600"]
You have access to an unlimited amount of cloud space on the xbox one so sony is not winning the cloud wars.And a 1GB increase is terrible.
http://www.techspot.com/news/53403-xbox-one-will-come-with-unlimited-cloud-storage.html
super600
The article does not state that anywere, but I believe you for now.
That's how it is on the PS3 anyway. Install data has to be on the hardware itself, and I personally would not want my downloaded titles on the cloud.
It's still free as of right now. On the PS4 it will be the same, the only thing that will change is that you will require a PlayStation Plus membership (which is a different service) to play most online multiplayer games with the exception of free to play games. Friends list, Netflix, etc. will not be behind a paywall.[QUOTE="AncientDozer"]I'm still wondering whatever happened to the "PSN will always be free, we'll never pay for PSN" crowd. I know, people, that they aren't charging for anything but the multiplayer. . but if you magically believe that Microsoft will, in the middle of the Xbox One's lifespan, change back to all its loathed policies, then surely Sony will eventually expand what requires PS+.ButDuuude
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It is a shame that they went that direction though, and it also doesn't really make a huge amount of sense.
At least they aren't completely stupid and requiring PSN+ in order to access Hulu+ and Netflix. So if someone is not at all into Call of Duty or Battlefield type shooters, they will still be able to enjoy their movie streaming services as well as single player games and not have to add any other meaningless subscription.Â
I still don't really understand why games would arbitrarily be placed behind a paywall. This gen if you play Bad Company 2 or Battlefield 3, you are using EA servers. If you play Call of Duty, you are using peer-to-peer matchmaking. So why are we paying for Xbox live? Unless Sony and Microsoft are taking over 100% of the servers for games (which I doubt, even with the cloud PR stuff I doubt EA is going to want to let Microsoft "run" everything on the server side) - it won't make any more sense next gen.
However at least Sony isn't cheap like Microsoft. you get what you pay for with PSN+ (tons of content). With Live you get next to nothing.Â
It's still a HUGE rip off. But what can one do, it's the lesser evil. PSN+ is still the best online service for consoles. da best![QUOTE="Suppaman100"][QUOTE="onewiththegame"] Most people saw this coming but not "cows"Riverwolf007
not counting last month when it was bricking consoles.
http://www.gamespot.com/news/ps3-firmware-update-445-locking-up-some-consoles-report-6410429
:lol:
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dat desperation.Â
da best![QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]
[QUOTE="Suppaman100"] It's still a HUGE rip off. But what can one do, it's the lesser evil. PSN+ is still the best online service for consoles.2Chalupas
not counting last month when it was bricking consoles.
http://www.gamespot.com/news/ps3-firmware-update-445-locking-up-some-consoles-report-6410429
:lol:
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dat desperation.Â
don't dc me man.dude wants to say "the best" and i called him out on how incompetent sony is.
i would think that in order to qualify as the best you may not want to brick peoples consoles.
does that not sound like it should be page one under firmware updating in the how to operate your online system manual?
cuz to me.... that should be a priority....after 6 years of experence for your firmware updates.
that's just me tho, maybe i place too much importance in not bricking your system with a firmware update.
[QUOTE="2Chalupas"]
[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"] da best!
not counting last month when it was bricking consoles.
http://www.gamespot.com/news/ps3-firmware-update-445-locking-up-some-consoles-report-6410429
:lol:
Riverwolf007
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dat desperation.Â
don't dc me man.dude wants to say "the best" and i called him out on how incompetent sony is.
i would think that in order to qualify as the best you may not want to brick peoples consoles.
does that not sound like it should be page one under firmware updating in the how to operate your online system manual?
cuz to me.... that should be a priority....after 6 years of experence for your firmware updates.
that's just me tho, maybe i place too much importance in not bricking your system with a firmware update.
really dude?Â
becuase that totally has never happend to an XBOX firmware update.
http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/712745/xbox-360-update-bricks-consoles-microsoft-sending-new-consoles-to-those-affected/
i wonder if Sony's update was botched so bad they had to actually send out new consoles? :lol:
[QUOTE="super600"]save games only and only if you have an xbox live account.You have access to an unlimited amount of cloud space on the xbox one so sony is not winning the cloud wars.And a 1GB increase is terrible.
http://www.techspot.com/news/53403-xbox-one-will-come-with-unlimited-cloud-storage.html
Chris_Williams
Read the article.
You're correct. Anything with the "PS+ Edition" tag means you're getting an extended demo and you have to DLC/Microtransaction your way to the full retail product. I don't know if PS4 PS+ is going to be as good as it was on PS3. They've attached online multiplayer to it. That is the main selling point. That will get more people subbing than IGC ever did. Because of that, I wonder if they'll feel like *anything* on top of multiplayer is pure bonus/value and that PS+ Editions of retail games is more than enough of a value add and restrict free full versions to indie games. It wouldn't shock me if they were telling people to make their games in a really modular way where they can easily remove content to quickly create a PS+ Edition.[QUOTE="Senor_Kami"]The cloud space is just for game saves. It's overkill for me. I think it's mainly going to be useful for game industry people who regularly play like 4 different versions of games on 10 different consoles and are forced to have dozens of saves for picture/video and also play like every game released. They might need that extra gig. [QUOTE="charizard1605"]Correct me if I am wrong, but the version of DriveClub that you get from PS+ is not the full, actual game, right?Optical_Order
I wouldn't be surprised at all if PS+ loses a lot of its value, for the reasons you stated.Â
Most people who buy a PS4 will buy PS+ just to play multiplayer, so there isn't a huge incentive for Sony to be giving out a lot of good free games in addition to that. They've already got you. My guess is that they'll still give out some free games, but it isn't going to be anything like it was on the PS3.Â
Hopefully I'm wrong, but I doubt it.Â
I have to disagree. If you look at XBL, the Lems boast about 36 million Live subscribers but what what they are too stupid to realize is this number is a combination of Gold & Silver. Microsoft wont say how many Gold subscribers they have for obvious reasons but the last time they let the number slip a few years ago, it was only about 50% of Live subscribers and about 25% of consoles sold. Despite the popular belief, Online Multiplayer isn't as popular as people think.You have access to an unlimited amount of cloud space on the xbox one so sony is not winning the cloud wars.And a 1GB increase is terrible.
http://www.techspot.com/news/53403-xbox-one-will-come-with-unlimited-cloud-storage.html
super600
There's a cloud war now? Weird.
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