Sony making new models is a joke. Funny how Cows were bashing the Elite.

Here is what aggravates me. Hereis what we have hadsense E3. Sony coming out with a new model (possible another for cheaper reasons, and two discontinued models this year).What aggravates me is the fact that cows are really excited about it. Why should you be? Here you began with two models one for $600 the other for $500. They discontinue the $500 because they aren't selling any.Now they discontinue the $600 because it is not selling. So now they make a newer model for the same price, but added space, and a game that comes along with it (Does this remind anyone of the Sega Saturns path?) On top of that there are rumors of a newer version for christmas.

So lets look at what cows said about 360.

"It was rushed! Look at the hardware problems, that proves that it is a rushed product"

Indeed 360 has had its issues, but Microsoft admitted to it, and tried to make a newer model to fix those issues with cows bashing ittremendously. So if you cows sat here, and bashed MS. How can you sit here, and be excited about the newer models? Ecspecially when they burned the people who already had the 60gb. You guys are acting like Sony has made a hell of a move. On top of all of that. How can you sit here, and say Sony did not rush their system when they don't know if they want a 60gb, 20gb, 80gb model sitting on shelves, or if it should be $400, $500, $600? Give me a break, and think about what Sony has done.

it means we get cheaper models of ps3, then i cant complain.useLOGIC

True

Hey Cheaper Sells

I plan to pick up a ps3 as soon as theres some sort price drop $400 Highest sorry sony but 500-600 is not in my gaming budget

An 80 gig model is not going to burn anyone buying the 60 gig right now or that has a 60 gig. It is 20 gigs for pete's sake. Nobody is going to trade-in their 60 gigs to get an 80 gig model.

Here is what aggravates me. Hereis what we have hadsense E3. Sony coming out with a new model (possible another for cheaper reasons, and two discontinued models this year).What aggravates me is the fact that cows are really excited about it. Why should you be? Here you began with two models one for $600 the other for $500. They discontinue the $500 because they aren't selling any.Now they discontinue the $600 because it is not selling. So now they make a newer model for the same price, but added space, and a game that comes along with it (Does this remind anyone of the Sega Saturns path?) On top of that there are rumors of a newer version for christmas.

So lets look at what cows said about 360.

"It was rushed! Look at the hardware problems, that proves that it is a rushed product"

Indeed 360 has had its issues, but Microsoft admitted to it, and tried to make a newer model to fix those issues with cows bashing ittremendously. So if you cows sat here, and bashed MS. How can you sit here, and be excited about the newer models? Ecspecially when they burned the people who already had the 60gb. You guys are acting like Sony has made a hell of a move. On top of all of that. How can you sit here, and say Sony did not rush their system when they don't know if they want a 60gb, 20gb, 80gb model sitting on shelves, or if it should be $400, $500, $600? Give me a break, and think about what Sony has done.

xscrapzx

I think its pretty stupid...they said on several occasions they will only support 1 SKU and wthin a year we already have 3 SKU'sHani_Essa

They are only supporting 1 SKU. Old SKUs are replaced by new ones.

Unlike idiot companies that have 4 SKUs for the same consoles simultaneously.

I dont know I just see a different way thats all. I just don't how you can take away a cheaper model for the customer. Then force them the 60gb model for that price. Then say there is a price cut, and then make it temporary because they are stop the production for that model. Then force $600 on the consumer again. If they make a cheaper model its going to have significiate downgrade, rumour stating that it wont even be backwards compadibility.xscrapzx

There's also a rumor about the 80GB dropping in price by the holidays. PErsonally, I'd rather get that because it comes with the new controller and the whole BC isn't that big of a deal. What do you buy a PS3 just so you can play PS2 and PS1 games? SEriously, after awhile many stop playing the old games. I have a PS2 and DO NOT play any PS1 games on it, so I could care less.

Blame Nintendo, they were the first to incorporate the mulitple SKU idea.ramey70

What?

Blame Nintendo, they were the first to incorporate the mulitple SKU idea.ramey70

explain plz

Sony didn't burn us PS3 owners by making it cheaper later. MS burned 360 owners by releasing a messed up product that will continue to malfunction until there are no original systems left and MS will count the replacements as "more 360s sold!!"snorlaxmaster

I thought it was already established that systems replaced under warranty were never counted in shipment figures?

The difference between the Elite and anything you're seeing with the PS3's are that the Elite came with things that should have come on the prior SKU's. The Elite was a kiss and make up with those who wanted a 360 and had a HDTV.

The only reason Sony will make any other SKU, soon, is to price drop. Even this new 80GB is solely more HDD space and to establish the $600 price again. Once minds are set at $600, they bring the second SKU at a lowwer price to grab the audience.

What's wrong with having things priced $400, $500, or $600? Options. And you're all tallking about the HDD space difference like that's a big deal. NO HDD AT ALL IS A BIG DEAL. NO HDMI IS A BIG DEAL. thank you.

[QUOTE="ramey70"]Blame Nintendo, they were the first to incorporate the mulitple SKU idea.youngtongue

explain plz

I think it funny he using this but the only thing I could think about is...The NES had a $249 "May be wrong about price" with Rob the Robot and than a $199 without ROB the robot

I think it funny he using this but the only thing I could think about is...The NES had a $249 "May be wrong about price" with Rob the Robot and than a $199 without ROB the robotHarlockJC

Rob sucked. He just sat on the side for me. I controlled the pipes in Gyromite with my feet on the second controller.

BTW. I've seen it numorous times but you sig is funny as (you know what)!!!

it means we get cheaper models of ps3, then i cant complain.useLOGIC

[QUOTE="useLOGIC"]it means we get cheaper models of ps3, then i cant complain.johnusabeis

]its not like it will take a long time.

[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]

I think it funny he using this but the only thing I could think about is...The NES had a $249 "May be wrong about price" with Rob the Robot and than a $199 without ROB the robotdubvisions

Rob sucked. He just sat on the side for me. I controlled the pipes in Gyromite with my feet on the second controller.

BTW. I've seen it numorous times but you sig is funny as (you know what)!!!

Yes he did...But when Nintendo came out it was after the fall of Atari so the only way a lot of retailers would stock the Nintendo was if it was not a gaming system. So Nintendo called it an Entertainment system and said that it was because it came with a robot is why it was not a gaming system. So the retailers stocked it and there you go a little history.

Thanks about the sigI thought about changing it, been using this sign for a year now. But I just like it to much.

Here is what aggravates me. Hereis what we have hadsense E3. Sony coming out with a new model (possible another for cheaper reasons, and two discontinued models this year).What aggravates me is the fact that cows are really excited about it. Why should you be? Here you began with two models one for $600 the other for $500. They discontinue the $500 because they aren't selling any.Now they discontinue the $600 because it is not selling. So now they make a newer model for the same price, but added space, and a game that comes along with it (Does this remind anyone of the Sega Saturns path?) On top of that there are rumors of a newer version for christmas.

So lets look at what cows said about 360.

"It was rushed! Look at the hardware problems, that proves that it is a rushed product"

Indeed 360 has had its issues, but Microsoft admitted to it, and tried to make a newer model to fix those issues with cows bashing ittremendously. So if you cows sat here, and bashed MS. How can you sit here, and be excited about the newer models? Ecspecially when they burned the people who already had the 60gb. You guys are acting like Sony has made a hell of a move. On top of all of that. How can you sit here, and say Sony did not rush their system when they don't know if they want a 60gb, 20gb, 80gb model sitting on shelves, or if it should be $400, $500, $600? Give me a break, and think about what Sony has done.

xscrapzx

Let me clear things up for you.

First off-Sony discontinued the 20 gig due to them losing lots more money on it than the 60 gig. They sold the 60 gig units at rates of 8:1 when compared to the 20gig, but they were being shipped in quantities of 8:1 as well. So they phased out the 20 gig due to it costing them more money.

Secondly, Sony has not burned anyone. How did they burn anyone with the 60 gig?

Thirdly, Every model that Sony has come out with can be modded to do the same as all of the models. All models come standard with HDMI, HDD, and so on. You can buy any SATA HDD and upgrade if the model you bought does not have enough space that you are requiring (160gig HDD runs about $60--versus MS propriotary drive of 120 gig costing $180). The only model to not have Wi-fi is the 20 gig-and you can buy a wi-fi adapter (my cousin has one). The only thing that you can not upgrade are the SD card slots--which really don't matter as all systems have usb ports.

The reason why people hate on the 360 is that there system was rushed. The are having horrendous defect rates. Their new elite model offers HDMI (which is a huge deal for HDTV owners) and the others cannot be upgraded to it. Soas a customer of MS and an HDTV owner--I would be beyond pissed, because now to take full advantage I have to go out and buy a whole new system. Also, it does not come standard with a HDD--which is a big deal as well (note all the devs complaining about this).

[QUOTE="xscrapzx"]

Here is what aggravates me. Hereis what we have hadsense E3. Sony coming out with a new model (possible another for cheaper reasons, and two discontinued models this year).What aggravates me is the fact that cows are really excited about it. Why should you be? Here you began with two models one for $600 the other for $500. They discontinue the $500 because they aren't selling any.Now they discontinue the $600 because it is not selling. So now they make a newer model for the same price, but added space, and a game that comes along with it (Does this remind anyone of the Sega Saturns path?) On top of that there are rumors of a newer version for christmas.

So lets look at what cows said about 360.

"It was rushed! Look at the hardware problems, that proves that it is a rushed product"

Indeed 360 has had its issues, but Microsoft admitted to it, and tried to make a newer model to fix those issues with cows bashing ittremendously. So if you cows sat here, and bashed MS. How can you sit here, and be excited about the newer models? Ecspecially when they burned the people who already had the 60gb. You guys are acting like Sony has made a hell of a move. On top of all of that. How can you sit here, and say Sony did not rush their system when they don't know if they want a 60gb, 20gb, 80gb model sitting on shelves, or if it should be $400, $500, $600? Give me a break, and think about what Sony has done.

HuhJustaBox

Let me clear things up for you.

First off-Sony discontinued the 20 gig due to them losing lots more money on it than the 60 gig. They sold the 60 gig units at rates of 8:1 when compared to the 20gig, but they were being shipped in quantities of 8:1 as well. So they phased out the 20 gig due to it costing them more money.

Secondly, Sony has not burned anyone. How did they burn anyone with the 60 gig?

Thirdly, Every model that Sony has come out with can be modded to do the same as all of the models. All models come standard with HDMI, HDD, and so on. You can buy any SATA HDD and upgrade if the model you bought does not have enough space that you are requiring (160gig HDD runs about $60--versus MS propriotary drive of 120 gig costing $180). The only model to not have Wi-fi is the 20 gig-and you can buy a wi-fi adapter (my cousin has one). The only thing that you can not upgrade are the SD card slots--which really don't matter as all systems have usb ports.

The reason why people hate on the 360 is that there system was rushed. The are having horrendous defect rates. Their new elite model offers HDMI (which is a huge deal for HDTV owners) and the others cannot be upgraded to it. Soas a customer of MS and an HDTV owner--I would be beyond pissed, because now to take full advantage I have to go out and buy a whole new system. Also, it does not come standard with a HDD--which is a big deal as well (note all the devs complaining about this).

The 360 Elite HDMI is useless. It can't even do LPCM 5.1-7.1, Dolby TrueHD or DTS HD-MA, which defeats the purpose of HDMI. :D

You can buy any SATA HDD and upgrade if the model you bought does not have enough space that you are requiring (160gig HDD runs about $60--versus MS propriotary drive of 120 gig costing $180).HuhJustaBox

Err, not exactly. You can only buy 2.5" SATA HDDs, i.e. laptop HDDs. They're a bit more expensive than standard 3.5" SATA HDDs, still about $0.80 per GB compared to 3.5" HDDs which are down to about $0.20 per GB. A 100GB HDD for the PS3 would probaby run about $80 or so.

Here is what aggravates me. Hereis what we have hadsense E3. Sony coming out with a new model (possible another for cheaper reasons, and two discontinued models this year).What aggravates me is the fact that cows are really excited about it. Why should you be? Here you began with two models one for $600 the other for $500. They discontinue the $500 because they aren't selling any.Now they discontinue the $600 because it is not selling. So now they make a newer model for the same price, but added space, and a game that comes along with it (Does this remind anyone of the Sega Saturns path?) On top of that there are rumors of a newer version for christmas.

So lets look at what cows said about 360.

"It was rushed! Look at the hardware problems, that proves that it is a rushed product"

Indeed 360 has had its issues, but Microsoft admitted to it, and tried to make a newer model to fix those issues with cows bashing ittremendously. So if you cows sat here, and bashed MS. How can you sit here, and be excited about the newer models? Ecspecially when they burned the people who already had the 60gb. You guys are acting like Sony has made a hell of a move. On top of all of that. How can you sit here, and say Sony did not rush their system when they don't know if they want a 60gb, 20gb, 80gb model sitting on shelves, or if it should be $400, $500, $600? Give me a break, and think about what Sony has done.

xscrapzx

The difference is MS said HDMI wasnt needed, buh buh buh why did they add it in the elite then? LMAO. :P

[QUOTE="HuhJustaBox"][QUOTE="xscrapzx"]

Here is what aggravates me. Hereis what we have hadsense E3. Sony coming out with a new model (possible another for cheaper reasons, and two discontinued models this year).What aggravates me is the fact that cows are really excited about it. Why should you be? Here you began with two models one for $600 the other for $500. They discontinue the $500 because they aren't selling any.Now they discontinue the $600 because it is not selling. So now they make a newer model for the same price, but added space, and a game that comes along with it (Does this remind anyone of the Sega Saturns path?) On top of that there are rumors of a newer version for christmas.

So lets look at what cows said about 360.

"It was rushed! Look at the hardware problems, that proves that it is a rushed product"

Indeed 360 has had its issues, but Microsoft admitted to it, and tried to make a newer model to fix those issues with cows bashing ittremendously. So if you cows sat here, and bashed MS. How can you sit here, and be excited about the newer models? Ecspecially when they burned the people who already had the 60gb. You guys are acting like Sony has made a hell of a move. On top of all of that. How can you sit here, and say Sony did not rush their system when they don't know if they want a 60gb, 20gb, 80gb model sitting on shelves, or if it should be $400, $500, $600? Give me a break, and think about what Sony has done.

DarkBunnie

Let me clear things up for you.

First off-Sony discontinued the 20 gig due to them losing lots more money on it than the 60 gig. They sold the 60 gig units at rates of 8:1 when compared to the 20gig, but they were being shipped in quantities of 8:1 as well. So they phased out the 20 gig due to it costing them more money.

Secondly, Sony has not burned anyone. How did they burn anyone with the 60 gig?

Thirdly, Every model that Sony has come out with can be modded to do the same as all of the models. All models come standard with HDMI, HDD, and so on. You can buy any SATA HDD and upgrade if the model you bought does not have enough space that you are requiring (160gig HDD runs about $60--versus MS propriotary drive of 120 gig costing $180). The only model to not have Wi-fi is the 20 gig-and you can buy a wi-fi adapter (my cousin has one). The only thing that you can not upgrade are the SD card slots--which really don't matter as all systems have usb ports.

The reason why people hate on the 360 is that there system was rushed. The are having horrendous defect rates. Their new elite model offers HDMI (which is a huge deal for HDTV owners) and the others cannot be upgraded to it. Soas a customer of MS and an HDTV owner--I would be beyond pissed, because now to take full advantage I have to go out and buy a whole new system. Also, it does not come standard with a HDD--which is a big deal as well (note all the devs complaining about this).

The 360 Elite HDMI is useless. It can't even do LPCM 5.1-7.1, Dolby TrueHD or DTS HD-MA, which defeats the purpose of HDMI. :D

Wow, that sucks! Then why did they even make the elite model? What a joke.

[QUOTE="xscrapzx"]

Here is what aggravates me. Hereis what we have hadsense E3. Sony coming out with a new model (possible another for cheaper reasons, and two discontinued models this year).What aggravates me is the fact that cows are really excited about it. Why should you be? Here you began with two models one for $600 the other for $500. They discontinue the $500 because they aren't selling any.Now they discontinue the $600 because it is not selling. So now they make a newer model for the same price, but added space, and a game that comes along with it (Does this remind anyone of the Sega Saturns path?) On top of that there are rumors of a newer version for christmas.

So lets look at what cows said about 360.

"It was rushed! Look at the hardware problems, that proves that it is a rushed product"

Indeed 360 has had its issues, but Microsoft admitted to it, and tried to make a newer model to fix those issues with cows bashing ittremendously. So if you cows sat here, and bashed MS. How can you sit here, and be excited about the newer models? Ecspecially when they burned the people who already had the 60gb. You guys are acting like Sony has made a hell of a move. On top of all of that. How can you sit here, and say Sony did not rush their system when they don't know if they want a 60gb, 20gb, 80gb model sitting on shelves, or if it should be $400, $500, $600? Give me a break, and think about what Sony has done.

squallff8_fan

The difference is MS said HDMI wasnt needed, buh buh buh why did they add it in the elite then? LMAO. :P

They even added an inferior version of HDMI, which can't even do LPCM 5.1-7.1, Dolby TrueHD or DTS HD-MA. :D

[QUOTE="squallff8_fan"][QUOTE="xscrapzx"]

Here is what aggravates me. Hereis what we have hadsense E3. Sony coming out with a new model (possible another for cheaper reasons, and two discontinued models this year).What aggravates me is the fact that cows are really excited about it. Why should you be? Here you began with two models one for $600 the other for $500. They discontinue the $500 because they aren't selling any.Now they discontinue the $600 because it is not selling. So now they make a newer model for the same price, but added space, and a game that comes along with it (Does this remind anyone of the Sega Saturns path?) On top of that there are rumors of a newer version for christmas.

So lets look at what cows said about 360.

"It was rushed! Look at the hardware problems, that proves that it is a rushed product"

Indeed 360 has had its issues, but Microsoft admitted to it, and tried to make a newer model to fix those issues with cows bashing ittremendously. So if you cows sat here, and bashed MS. How can you sit here, and be excited about the newer models? Ecspecially when they burned the people who already had the 60gb. You guys are acting like Sony has made a hell of a move. On top of all of that. How can you sit here, and say Sony did not rush their system when they don't know if they want a 60gb, 20gb, 80gb model sitting on shelves, or if it should be $400, $500, $600? Give me a break, and think about what Sony has done.

DarkBunnie

The difference is MS said HDMI wasnt needed, buh buh buh why did they add it in the elite then? LMAO. :P

They even added an inferior version of HDMI, which can't even do LPCM 5.1-7.1, Dolby TrueHD or DTS HD-MA. :D

There's no such thing as an "inferior version of HDMI." The reason the Elite can't do those is because those codecs require specialized hardware, and the Elite would've cost a hell of a lot more than just $479.

As if any of that really matters, anyway.

[QUOTE="HuhJustaBox"]You can buy any SATA HDD and upgrade if the model you bought does not have enough space that you are requiring (160gig HDD runs about $60--versus MS propriotary drive of 120 gig costing $180).mjarantilla

Err, not exactly. You can only buy 2.5" SATA HDDs, i.e. laptop HDDs. They're a bit more expensive than standard 3.5" SATA HDDs, still about $0.80 per GB compared to 3.5" HDDs which are down to about $0.20 per GB. A 100GB HDD for the PS3 would probaby run about $80 or so.

You are partly correct. I was being lazy and meant that you did not have to buy a propriotary drive. However, you can get 120gigs for about $50 and 160gigs for around $70. Shop online at places like tiger direct, newegg, etc. They have some amazing deals.

[QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

[QUOTE="HuhJustaBox"]You can buy any SATA HDD and upgrade if the model you bought does not have enough space that you are requiring (160gig HDD runs about $60--versus MS propriotary drive of 120 gig costing $180).HuhJustaBox

Err, not exactly. You can only buy 2.5" SATA HDDs, i.e. laptop HDDs. They're a bit more expensive than standard 3.5" SATA HDDs, still about $0.80 per GB compared to 3.5" HDDs which are down to about $0.20 per GB. A 100GB HDD for the PS3 would probaby run about $80 or so.

You are partly correct. I was being lazy and meant that you did not have to buy a propriotary drive. However, you can get 120gigs for about $50 and 160gigs for around $70. Shop online at places like tiger direct, newegg, etc. They have some amazing deals.

True enough. I didn't do any deep digging, I just went on a cursory search through Newegg.

[QUOTE="DarkBunnie"][QUOTE="squallff8_fan"][QUOTE="xscrapzx"]

Here is what aggravates me. Hereis what we have hadsense E3. Sony coming out with a new model (possible another for cheaper reasons, and two discontinued models this year).What aggravates me is the fact that cows are really excited about it. Why should you be? Here you began with two models one for $600 the other for $500. They discontinue the $500 because they aren't selling any.Now they discontinue the $600 because it is not selling. So now they make a newer model for the same price, but added space, and a game that comes along with it (Does this remind anyone of the Sega Saturns path?) On top of that there are rumors of a newer version for christmas.

So lets look at what cows said about 360.

"It was rushed! Look at the hardware problems, that proves that it is a rushed product"

Indeed 360 has had its issues, but Microsoft admitted to it, and tried to make a newer model to fix those issues with cows bashing ittremendously. So if you cows sat here, and bashed MS. How can you sit here, and be excited about the newer models? Ecspecially when they burned the people who already had the 60gb. You guys are acting like Sony has made a hell of a move. On top of all of that. How can you sit here, and say Sony did not rush their system when they don't know if they want a 60gb, 20gb, 80gb model sitting on shelves, or if it should be $400, $500, $600? Give me a break, and think about what Sony has done.

mjarantilla

The difference is MS said HDMI wasnt needed, buh buh buh why did they add it in the elite then? LMAO. :P

They even added an inferior version of HDMI, which can't even do LPCM 5.1-7.1, Dolby TrueHD or DTS HD-MA. :D

There's no such thing as an "inferior version of HDMI." The reason the Elite can't do those is because those codecs require specialized hardware, and the Elite would've cost a hell of a lot more than just $479.

As if any of that really matters, anyway.

Yeah there is. Xbox 360 HDMI = HDMI 1.1 = not capable of passing Dolby TrueHD, DTS-HD MA = inferior. :D

[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="DarkBunnie"][QUOTE="squallff8_fan"][QUOTE="xscrapzx"]

Here is what aggravates me. Hereis what we have hadsense E3. Sony coming out with a new model (possible another for cheaper reasons, and two discontinued models this year).What aggravates me is the fact that cows are really excited about it. Why should you be? Here you began with two models one for $600 the other for $500. They discontinue the $500 because they aren't selling any.Now they discontinue the $600 because it is not selling. So now they make a newer model for the same price, but added space, and a game that comes along with it (Does this remind anyone of the Sega Saturns path?) On top of that there are rumors of a newer version for christmas.

So lets look at what cows said about 360.

"It was rushed! Look at the hardware problems, that proves that it is a rushed product"

Indeed 360 has had its issues, but Microsoft admitted to it, and tried to make a newer model to fix those issues with cows bashing ittremendously. So if you cows sat here, and bashed MS. How can you sit here, and be excited about the newer models? Ecspecially when they burned the people who already had the 60gb. You guys are acting like Sony has made a hell of a move. On top of all of that. How can you sit here, and say Sony did not rush their system when they don't know if they want a 60gb, 20gb, 80gb model sitting on shelves, or if it should be $400, $500, $600? Give me a break, and think about what Sony has done.

DarkBunnie

The difference is MS said HDMI wasnt needed, buh buh buh why did they add it in the elite then? LMAO. :P

They even added an inferior version of HDMI, which can't even do LPCM 5.1-7.1, Dolby TrueHD or DTS HD-MA. :D

There's no such thing as an "inferior version of HDMI." The reason the Elite can't do those is because those codecs require specialized hardware, and the Elite would've cost a hell of a lot more than just $479.

As if any of that really matters, anyway.

Yeah there is. Xbox 360 HDMI = HDMI 1.1 = not capable of passing Dolby TrueHD, DTS-HD MA = inferior. :D

And as I said:

As if that really matters, anyway.

[QUOTE="DarkBunnie"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="DarkBunnie"][QUOTE="squallff8_fan"][QUOTE="xscrapzx"]

Here is what aggravates me. Hereis what we have hadsense E3. Sony coming out with a new model (possible another for cheaper reasons, and two discontinued models this year).What aggravates me is the fact that cows are really excited about it. Why should you be? Here you began with two models one for $600 the other for $500. They discontinue the $500 because they aren't selling any.Now they discontinue the $600 because it is not selling. So now they make a newer model for the same price, but added space, and a game that comes along with it (Does this remind anyone of the Sega Saturns path?) On top of that there are rumors of a newer version for christmas.

So lets look at what cows said about 360.

"It was rushed! Look at the hardware problems, that proves that it is a rushed product"

Indeed 360 has had its issues, but Microsoft admitted to it, and tried to make a newer model to fix those issues with cows bashing ittremendously. So if you cows sat here, and bashed MS. How can you sit here, and be excited about the newer models? Ecspecially when they burned the people who already had the 60gb. You guys are acting like Sony has made a hell of a move. On top of all of that. How can you sit here, and say Sony did not rush their system when they don't know if they want a 60gb, 20gb, 80gb model sitting on shelves, or if it should be $400, $500, $600? Give me a break, and think about what Sony has done.

mjarantilla

The difference is MS said HDMI wasnt needed, buh buh buh why did they add it in the elite then? LMAO. :P

They even added an inferior version of HDMI, which can't even do LPCM 5.1-7.1, Dolby TrueHD or DTS HD-MA. :D

There's no such thing as an "inferior version of HDMI." The reason the Elite can't do those is because those codecs require specialized hardware, and the Elite would've cost a hell of a lot more than just $479.

As if any of that really matters, anyway.

Yeah there is. Xbox 360 HDMI = HDMI 1.1 = not capable of passing Dolby TrueHD, DTS-HD MA = inferior. :D

And as I said:

As if that really matters, anyway.

Oh, but it does.

No HD Audio = not a HD machine. :D

[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="DarkBunnie"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="DarkBunnie"][QUOTE="squallff8_fan"][QUOTE="xscrapzx"]

Here is what aggravates me. Hereis what we have hadsense E3. Sony coming out with a new model (possible another for cheaper reasons, and two discontinued models this year).What aggravates me is the fact that cows are really excited about it. Why should you be? Here you began with two models one for $600 the other for $500. They discontinue the $500 because they aren't selling any.Now they discontinue the $600 because it is not selling. So now they make a newer model for the same price, but added space, and a game that comes along with it (Does this remind anyone of the Sega Saturns path?) On top of that there are rumors of a newer version for christmas.

So lets look at what cows said about 360.

"It was rushed! Look at the hardware problems, that proves that it is a rushed product"

Indeed 360 has had its issues, but Microsoft admitted to it, and tried to make a newer model to fix those issues with cows bashing ittremendously. So if you cows sat here, and bashed MS. How can you sit here, and be excited about the newer models? Ecspecially when they burned the people who already had the 60gb. You guys are acting like Sony has made a hell of a move. On top of all of that. How can you sit here, and say Sony did not rush their system when they don't know if they want a 60gb, 20gb, 80gb model sitting on shelves, or if it should be $400, $500, $600? Give me a break, and think about what Sony has done.

DarkBunnie

The difference is MS said HDMI wasnt needed, buh buh buh why did they add it in the elite then? LMAO. :P

They even added an inferior version of HDMI, which can't even do LPCM 5.1-7.1, Dolby TrueHD or DTS HD-MA. :D

There's no such thing as an "inferior version of HDMI." The reason the Elite can't do those is because those codecs require specialized hardware, and the Elite would've cost a hell of a lot more than just $479.

As if any of that really matters, anyway.

Yeah there is. Xbox 360 HDMI = HDMI 1.1 = not capable of passing Dolby TrueHD, DTS-HD MA = inferior. :D

And as I said:

As if that really matters, anyway.

Oh, but it does.

No HD Audio = not a HD machine. :D

HD Audio = insignificant. Not worthless, but certainly insignificant. Most people can't even tell the difference between CD audio and 256kbps MP3 in passive listening. To those who can, kudos, but you're in the extreme, extreme minority. Like, 0.1% minority

So, as I said:

As if that really matters, anyway.

Here is what aggravates me. Hereis what we have hadsense E3. Sony coming out with a new model (possible another for cheaper reasons, and two discontinued models this year).What aggravates me is the fact that cows are really excited about it. Why should you be? Here you began with two models one for $600 the other for $500. They discontinue the $500 because they aren't selling any.Now they discontinue the $600 because it is not selling. So now they make a newer model for the same price, but added space, and a game that comes along with it (Does this remind anyone of the Sega Saturns path?) On top of that there are rumors of a newer version for christmas.

So lets look at what cows said about 360.

"It was rushed! Look at the hardware problems, that proves that it is a rushed product"

Indeed 360 has had its issues, but Microsoft admitted to it, and tried to make a newer model to fix those issues with cows bashing ittremendously. So if you cows sat here, and bashed MS. How can you sit here, and be excited about the newer models? Ecspecially when they burned the people who already had the 60gb. You guys are acting like Sony has made a hell of a move. On top of all of that. How can you sit here, and say Sony did not rush their system when they don't know if they want a 60gb, 20gb, 80gb model sitting on shelves, or if it should be $400, $500, $600? Give me a break, and think about what Sony has done.

xscrapzx

Here is what aggrevates me:

Lemmings have been bashing the PS2's DRE error for the last 7 years! Right before the 360 warranty issue came out, lemmings were STILL making posts about Sony being sued.

One would think the lemmings would be able to take for a few weeks what they have dished out for 7 years...but then again, this post proves otherwise. BUt this appears to be just one more bit of evidence that lemmings are easily the biggest hypocrits of all the fanboys. Constantly they want to attack others but then they can't handle it when it comes back to bite them in the behind.

[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="DarkBunnie"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="DarkBunnie"][QUOTE="squallff8_fan"][QUOTE="xscrapzx"]

Here is what aggravates me. Hereis what we have hadsense E3. Sony coming out with a new model (possible another for cheaper reasons, and two discontinued models this year).What aggravates me is the fact that cows are really excited about it. Why should you be? Here you began with two models one for $600 the other for $500. They discontinue the $500 because they aren't selling any.Now they discontinue the $600 because it is not selling. So now they make a newer model for the same price, but added space, and a game that comes along with it (Does this remind anyone of the Sega Saturns path?) On top of that there are rumors of a newer version for christmas.

So lets look at what cows said about 360.

"It was rushed! Look at the hardware problems, that proves that it is a rushed product"

Indeed 360 has had its issues, but Microsoft admitted to it, and tried to make a newer model to fix those issues with cows bashing ittremendously. So if you cows sat here, and bashed MS. How can you sit here, and be excited about the newer models? Ecspecially when they burned the people who already had the 60gb. You guys are acting like Sony has made a hell of a move. On top of all of that. How can you sit here, and say Sony did not rush their system when they don't know if they want a 60gb, 20gb, 80gb model sitting on shelves, or if it should be $400, $500, $600? Give me a break, and think about what Sony has done.

DarkBunnie

The difference is MS said HDMI wasnt needed, buh buh buh why did they add it in the elite then? LMAO. :P

They even added an inferior version of HDMI, which can't even do LPCM 5.1-7.1, Dolby TrueHD or DTS HD-MA. :D

There's no such thing as an "inferior version of HDMI." The reason the Elite can't do those is because those codecs require specialized hardware, and the Elite would've cost a hell of a lot more than just $479.

As if any of that really matters, anyway.

Yeah there is. Xbox 360 HDMI = HDMI 1.1 = not capable of passing Dolby TrueHD, DTS-HD MA = inferior. :D

And as I said:

As if that really matters, anyway.

Oh, but it does.

No HD Audio = not a HD machine. :D

[QUOTE="DarkBunnie"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="DarkBunnie"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="DarkBunnie"][QUOTE="squallff8_fan"][QUOTE="xscrapzx"]

Here is what aggravates me. Hereis what we have hadsense E3. Sony coming out with a new model (possible another for cheaper reasons, and two discontinued models this year).What aggravates me is the fact that cows are really excited about it. Why should you be? Here you began with two models one for $600 the other for $500. They discontinue the $500 because they aren't selling any.Now they discontinue the $600 because it is not selling. So now they make a newer model for the same price, but added space, and a game that comes along with it (Does this remind anyone of the Sega Saturns path?) On top of that there are rumors of a newer version for christmas.

So lets look at what cows said about 360.

"It was rushed! Look at the hardware problems, that proves that it is a rushed product"

Indeed 360 has had its issues, but Microsoft admitted to it, and tried to make a newer model to fix those issues with cows bashing ittremendously. So if you cows sat here, and bashed MS. How can you sit here, and be excited about the newer models? Ecspecially when they burned the people who already had the 60gb. You guys are acting like Sony has made a hell of a move. On top of all of that. How can you sit here, and say Sony did not rush their system when they don't know if they want a 60gb, 20gb, 80gb model sitting on shelves, or if it should be $400, $500, $600? Give me a break, and think about what Sony has done.

papa_smurf_23

The difference is MS said HDMI wasnt needed, buh buh buh why did they add it in the elite then? LMAO. :P

They even added an inferior version of HDMI, which can't even do LPCM 5.1-7.1, Dolby TrueHD or DTS HD-MA. :D

There's no such thing as an "inferior version of HDMI." The reason the Elite can't do those is because those codecs require specialized hardware, and the Elite would've cost a hell of a lot more than just $479.

As if any of that really matters, anyway.

Yeah there is. Xbox 360 HDMI = HDMI 1.1 = not capable of passing Dolby TrueHD, DTS-HD MA = inferior. :D

And as I said:

As if that really matters, anyway.

Oh, but it does.

No HD Audio = not a HD machine. :D

I do, but since regular DTS at 768 kbits/sec is already regarded as pretty much transparent compared to an uncompressed source, there isn't much use for anything higher.

Do not even bother. Cows are so very hypocritical. There are a couple on these forums that are not but only a couple. Fact is they made fun of the 360 for having the Elite as the biggest milkage but they will call the 80GB the best thing ever even though it has less backwards compatibility and only 20gb more memory. Eltroz

Wow.

Ironic that you call cows "so very hypocritical" but then can't figure out why they called the Elite "millkage". Any ideas how the term milkage even came about or who started the term?

And it is hard to take anything you say seriously when you can't tell the difference between releasing a more expensive console with added features that were supposedly "not necessary", and upgarding an SKU with a bigger HDD for the same price as what the previous SKU used to sell for.

And speaking of further hypocrisy...funny how lemmings are now suddenly against emulator software for backwards compatibility. They were all for BC when they thought the XBox 360 had it. They were even still defending it when they found out it would only be done through software downloads.

[QUOTE="xscrapzx"]

Here is what aggravates me. Hereis what we have hadsense E3. Sony coming out with a new model (possible another for cheaper reasons, and two discontinued models this year).What aggravates me is the fact that cows are really excited about it. Why should you be? Here you began with two models one for $600 the other for $500. They discontinue the $500 because they aren't selling any.Now they discontinue the $600 because it is not selling. So now they make a newer model for the same price, but added space, and a game that comes along with it (Does this remind anyone of the Sega Saturns path?) On top of that there are rumors of a newer version for christmas.

So lets look at what cows said about 360.

"It was rushed! Look at the hardware problems, that proves that it is a rushed product"

Indeed 360 has had its issues, but Microsoft admitted to it, and tried to make a newer model to fix those issues with cows bashing ittremendously. So if you cows sat here, and bashed MS. How can you sit here, and be excited about the newer models? Ecspecially when they burned the people who already had the 60gb. You guys are acting like Sony has made a hell of a move. On top of all of that. How can you sit here, and say Sony did not rush their system when they don't know if they want a 60gb, 20gb, 80gb model sitting on shelves, or if it should be $400, $500, $600? Give me a break, and think about what Sony has done.

ZIMdoom

Here is what aggrevates me:

Lemmings have been bashing the PS2's DRE error for the last 7 years! Right before the 360 warranty issue came out, lemmings were STILL making posts about Sony being sued.

One would think the lemmings would be able to take for a few weeks what they have dished out for 7 years...but then again, this post proves otherwise. BUt this appears to be just one more bit of evidence that lemmings are easily the biggest hypocrits of all the fanboys. Constantly they want to attack others but then they can't handle it when it comes back to bite them in the behind.

That wasn't completely irrelevant to the conversation at hand. :roll:

Do not even bother. Cows are so very hypocritical. There are a couple on these forums that are not but only a couple. Fact is they made fun of the 360 for having the Elite as the biggest milkage but they will call the 80GB the best thing ever even though it has less backwards compatibility and only 20gb more memory. Eltroz

You are very confused.

[QUOTE="Eltroz"]Do not even bother. Cows are so very hypocritical. There are a couple on these forums that are not but only a couple. Fact is they made fun of the 360 for having the Elite as the biggest milkage but they will call the 80GB the best thing ever even though it has less backwards compatibility and only 20gb more memory. ZIMdoom

Wow.

Ironic that you call cows "so very hypocritical" but then can't figure out why they called the Elite "millkage". Any ideas how the term milkage even came about or who started the term?

And it is hard to take anything you say seriously when you can't tell the difference between releasing a more expensive console with added features that were supposedly "not necessary", and upgarding an SKU with a bigger HDD for the same price as what the previous SKU used to sell for.

That wasn't completely irrelevant to the conversation at hand. :roll:

slothboyadvance

I originally started typing a rebuttal of every single inane comment he made, and pointing out every single thing he gets wrong. BUt it started to get way too long so I focused on the bigger picture...his hypocrisy and ignorance and bias.