Sony might be out of the game with the next generation system

Have at least some hope on the PS3!

People said the same thing for the Gamecube.

But we had hope.

And now look at the runaway success that is the Wii.

Have at least some hope on the PS3!

People said the same thing for the Gamecube.

But we had hope.

And now look at the runaway success that is the Wii.

Willy105

I think you mean have some hope for PS4.

I think the Final Fantasy series will be a huge boost to Sony personally. Would me to give an example as of why? Alright then.

After the Ace Combat series went excluively to the 360 how much of the japanese market bought it just for that game? The leap was about 10,000 in one month because of it's release. That's incredible. To make such an impact because of one game in a market like that that is known for their dislike of the 360.

Now add Final Fantasy into that, a well known and loved PS3 exclusive. By the time it is released the Ps3 will be selling about equal in price to the 360 in Japan I would suspect (maybe a few thousand yen higher?). Regardless I don't think we can count the PS3 out of the battle yet.

[QUOTE="Willy105"]

Have at least some hope on the PS3!

People said the same thing for the Gamecube.

But we had hope.

And now look at the runaway success that is the Wii.

iunderstand

I think you mean have some hope for PS4.

Nah, PS4 will still suck.

It's a regular cycle.

Just like Nintendo

First console: GREAT SUCCESS

Second console: GREAT SUCCESS

Third console: Success

Fourth console: Survived

Fifth console: GREAT SUCCESS

Just repeat that with Sony consoles.

The PS5 will be great!

Have at least some hope on the PS3!

People said the same thing for the Gamecube.

But we had hope.

And now look at the runaway success that is the Wii.

Willy105

one thing is certain, theres going to be no ps4

and yes it will probabaly go the way of the game cube

one thing is certain, theres going to be no ps4

and yes it will probabaly go the way of the game cube

Mad_Rhetoric

Why it's not as if sonys bankrupt or anything.

[QUOTE="Mad_Rhetoric"]

one thing is certain, theres going to be no ps4

and yes it will probabaly go the way of the game cube

Solid_Max13

Why it's not as if sonys bankrupt or anything.

Nintendo was never bankrupt.

Nintendo was the only competitor last gen that actually got a profit from their consoles.

And that's considering it was $100 cheaper than the PS2 and three times stronger.

[QUOTE="iunderstand"][QUOTE="Willy105"]

Have at least some hope on the PS3!

People said the same thing for the Gamecube.

But we had hope.

And now look at the runaway success that is the Wii.

Willy105

I think you mean have some hope for PS4.

Nah, PS4 will still suck.

It's a regular cycle.

Just like Nintendo

First console: GREAT SUCCESS

Second console: GREAT SUCCESS

Third console: Success

Fourth console: Survived

Fifth console: GREAT SUCCESS

Just repeat that with Sony consoles.

The PS5 will be great!

so ps3 could either pull a nintendo or a Sega?

to flop or not to flop =p

damn i miss the dreamcast age

one thing is certain, theres going to be no ps4

and yes it will probabaly go the way of the game cube

Mad_Rhetoric

bhahaha. good luck with that prediction homie.

[QUOTE="Solid_Max13"][QUOTE="Mad_Rhetoric"]

one thing is certain, theres going to be no ps4

and yes it will probabaly go the way of the game cube

Willy105

Why it's not as if sonys bankrupt or anything.

Nintendo was never bankrupt.

Nintendo was the only competitor last gen that actually got a profit from their consoles.

And that's considering it was $100 cheaper than the PS2 and three times stronger.

Sony dosent need the PS3 to make money, they have other sources that give them more profit then games do, if PS3 flops it wont be enough to stop them from making a PS4, money is not an issue here.

one thing is certain, theres going to be no ps4

and yes it will probabaly go the way of the game cube

Mad_Rhetoric

[QUOTE="Willy105"][QUOTE="Solid_Max13"][QUOTE="Mad_Rhetoric"]

one thing is certain, theres going to be no ps4

and yes it will probabaly go the way of the game cube

Mizarus

Why it's not as if sonys bankrupt or anything.

Nintendo was never bankrupt.

Nintendo was the only competitor last gen that actually got a profit from their consoles.

And that's considering it was $100 cheaper than the PS2 and three times stronger.

Sony dosent need the PS3 to make money, they have other sources that give them more profit then games do, if PS3 flops it wont be enough to stop them from making a PS4, money is not an issue here.

Exactly.

That's what powered their last two Playstations.

They had their game profit, their TV profit, their movie profit, their music player profit, and the rest.

But when the console costs a lot more, and games sell less, Sony loses market share on TV's, if Sony's movies flop at the box office, and the iPod is still around, the ways to get money will be smaller and smaller.

[QUOTE="Willy105"][QUOTE="Solid_Max13"][QUOTE="Mad_Rhetoric"]

one thing is certain, theres going to be no ps4

and yes it will probabaly go the way of the game cube

Mizarus

Why it's not as if sonys bankrupt or anything.

Nintendo was never bankrupt.

Nintendo was the only competitor last gen that actually got a profit from their consoles.

And that's considering it was $100 cheaper than the PS2 and three times stronger.

Sony dosent need the PS3 to make money, they have other sources that give them more profit then games do, if PS3 flops it wont be enough to stop them from making a PS4, money is not an issue here.

Money may not be an issue here, but do you think sony likes throwing all this money around and geting nothing in return??
I'm not saying theres not going to be a PS4 but don't try to act like sony not makeing money isn't a bad thing.

sony will probably learn the most from this gen than either nintendo or microsoft

[QUOTE="Mizarus"][QUOTE="Willy105"][QUOTE="Solid_Max13"][QUOTE="Mad_Rhetoric"]

one thing is certain, theres going to be no ps4

and yes it will probabaly go the way of the game cube

Willy105

Why it's not as if sonys bankrupt or anything.

Nintendo was never bankrupt.

Nintendo was the only competitor last gen that actually got a profit from their consoles.

And that's considering it was $100 cheaper than the PS2 and three times stronger.

Sony dosent need the PS3 to make money, they have other sources that give them more profit then games do, if PS3 flops it wont be enough to stop them from making a PS4, money is not an issue here.

Exactly.

That's what powered their last two Playstations.

They had their game profit, their TV profit, their movie profit, their music player profit, and the rest.

But when the console costs a lot more, and games sell less, Sony loses market share on TV's, if Sony's movies flop at the box office, and the iPod is still around, the ways to get money will be smaller and smaller.

Wait, since when didn't Ps1 and Ps2 make Sony money?

[QUOTE="Solid_Max13"][QUOTE="Mad_Rhetoric"]

one thing is certain, theres going to be no ps4

and yes it will probabaly go the way of the game cube

Willy105

Why it's not as if sonys bankrupt or anything.

Nintendo was never bankrupt.

Nintendo was the only competitor last gen that actually got a profit from their consoles.

And that's considering it was $100 cheaper than the PS2 and three times stronger.

nope.

im buying one soon.... so the industries saved

"thank you hip-hop-cola2, you have saved our sales"

[QUOTE="Willy105"][QUOTE="Solid_Max13"][QUOTE="Mad_Rhetoric"]

one thing is certain, theres going to be no ps4

and yes it will probabaly go the way of the game cube

Mad_Rhetoric

Why it's not as if sonys bankrupt or anything.

Nintendo was never bankrupt.

Nintendo was the only competitor last gen that actually got a profit from their consoles.

And that's considering it was $100 cheaper than the PS2 and three times stronger.

Billions heh?

[QUOTE="Mad_Rhetoric"][QUOTE="Willy105"][QUOTE="Solid_Max13"][QUOTE="Mad_Rhetoric"]

one thing is certain, theres going to be no ps4

and yes it will probabaly go the way of the game cube

Chutebox

Why it's not as if sonys bankrupt or anything.

Nintendo was never bankrupt.

Nintendo was the only competitor last gen that actually got a profit from their consoles.

And that's considering it was $100 cheaper than the PS2 and three times stronger.

Billions heh?

[QUOTE="Willy105"][QUOTE="Mizarus"][QUOTE="Willy105"][QUOTE="Solid_Max13"][QUOTE="Mad_Rhetoric"]

one thing is certain, theres going to be no ps4

and yes it will probabaly go the way of the game cube

Chutebox

Why it's not as if sonys bankrupt or anything.

Nintendo was never bankrupt.

Nintendo was the only competitor last gen that actually got a profit from their consoles.

And that's considering it was $100 cheaper than the PS2 and three times stronger.

Sony dosent need the PS3 to make money, they have other sources that give them more profit then games do, if PS3 flops it wont be enough to stop them from making a PS4, money is not an issue here.

Exactly.

That's what powered their last two Playstations.

They had their game profit, their TV profit, their movie profit, their music player profit, and the rest.

But when the console costs a lot more, and games sell less, Sony loses market share on TV's, if Sony's movies flop at the box office, and the iPod is still around, the ways to get money will be smaller and smaller.

Wait, since when didn't Ps1 and Ps2 make Sony money?

The games for the PS1 and PS2 made Sony money, not the consoles itself.

[QUOTE="Solid_Max13"][QUOTE="Mad_Rhetoric"]

one thing is certain, theres going to be no ps4

and yes it will probabaly go the way of the game cube

Willy105

Why it's not as if sonys bankrupt or anything.

Nintendo was never bankrupt.

Nintendo was the only competitor last gen that actually got a profit from their consoles.

And that's considering it was $100 cheaper than the PS2 and three times stronger.

Are you sure the ps2 didn't give any profit to sony last gen?

I see the future of the ps3 being very dim. Metal Gear Solid 4 and Final Fantasy 13 may move some units but will not save it. With the selling of the cell development department and the "blu-ray stalemate" it's not looking good for the playstation brand. We could see playstation 3.5 in 2 years.Nin360

so tru sounds like gamecube and xbox. games move units be they failed. Sony is down and out. :roll:

[QUOTE="Willy105"][QUOTE="Solid_Max13"][QUOTE="Mad_Rhetoric"]

one thing is certain, theres going to be no ps4

and yes it will probabaly go the way of the game cube

exiledsnake

Why it's not as if sonys bankrupt or anything.

Nintendo was never bankrupt.

Nintendo was the only competitor last gen that actually got a profit from their consoles.

And that's considering it was $100 cheaper than the PS2 and three times stronger.

Are you sure the ps2 didn't give any profit to sony last gen?

The games for the PS2 gave Sony profit (and a healthy amount of it).

The PS2 itself however was not designed to be profitable.

Have at least some hope on the PS3!

People said the same thing for the Gamecube.

But we had hope.

And now look at the runaway success that is the Wii.

Willy105

As a gamer I agree with your logic but you must remember some important facts. Ninty always made money from their console sales which meant they were still in the green regardless if they botched thier hold on the console market. Sony on the other hand is still in the "losing per console" phase with the PS3 and the R&D for the Cell is pretty much fertilizer now. Sony better hope their Tvs and cameras can keep them afloat to invest in another home console.

Game On...

[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="Mad_Rhetoric"][QUOTE="Willy105"][QUOTE="Solid_Max13"][QUOTE="Mad_Rhetoric"]

one thing is certain, theres going to be no ps4

and yes it will probabaly go the way of the game cube

Gun_Haze

Why it's not as if sonys bankrupt or anything.

Nintendo was never bankrupt.

Nintendo was the only competitor last gen that actually got a profit from their consoles.

And that's considering it was $100 cheaper than the PS2 and three times stronger.

Billions heh?

You guys are totally right... Sony didn't just announce today they were bailing on the cell with a loss of 1 billion.

Consoles are slowly transforming into PC's on your TV's.Shomb22

I know. That's horrible.

I think the Final Fantasy series will be a huge boost to Sony personally. Would me to give an example as of why? Alright then.

After the Ace Combat series went excluively to the 360 how much of the japanese market bought it just for that game? The leap was about 10,000 in one month because of it's release. That's incredible. To make such an impact because of one game in a market like that that is known for their dislike of the 360.

Now add Final Fantasy into that, a well known and loved PS3 exclusive. By the time it is released the Ps3 will be selling about equal in price to the 360 in Japan I would suspect (maybe a few thousand yen higher?). Regardless I don't think we can count the PS3 out of the battle yet.

BumFluff122

FF does move systems yes, but its not consistent and after it wears off the PS3 will be back to having sluggish sales. Look at the PSP for example, when FF:CC came out in Japan the system sold a lot. Much more than the DS, now look at things. Its back to the way it was before. So its true FF and MGS won't save the system, just give it a small temporary boost in sales.

I see the future of the ps3 being very dim. Metal Gear Solid 4 and Final Fantasy 13 may move some units but will not save it. With the selling of the cell development department and the "blu-ray stalemate" it's not looking good for the playstation brand. We could see playstation 3.5 in 2 years.Nin360