Has a market leader, it was only natural for sony to start sucking the big 3's dicks, but they actually invest in other cool stuff. In funny contrast, they've allows GG to make a brand new Ip in 10 years and it looks good and interesting. yeah, yeah, 3rd person action adventure rpg thing, but robot dinos are cool and different.
Plus, there's small projects like Wild, RIME, etc. I just hope to see new games liek those this year.
@kinectthedots said:
*remembers E3 2015*
[The Last Guardian, Shenmue 3 and FFVII remake (all cult fan requested games) and Horizon non-FPS or 3rd person shooter adventure RPG
Some COD BS, Battlefront and Batman]
TLG is an old game and Euda isn't even at Sony anymore. And Shenmue 3 and FF7R aren't their projects. They didn't even want to actually fund S3, instead being ok with BS PR that pretend it's their exclusive, like Sony does so often.
But apparently they can spend that kind of money on COD, Destiny, AC,BF, Disney deals with EA, Activision and Ubisoft
No, Sony is focused on making money. They know people like Call of Duty, Destiny, and have been clamoring for a Final Fantasy 7 remaster/HD Remake/ Please please Sony give us anything based around FF7 for the last few years. So right now just for this gen Sony is like Marvel Studios for the movie industry they currently will print money by just simply giving it's consumers the bare minimums. Granted Marvel Studios is taking more risks than Sony in the new ideas department (This comes in the form of lesser know heroes getting a movie. Can't wait for Dr. Strange and Black Panther to get their own movies next year I believe. YAY!?!?!)
Has a market leader, it was only natural for sony to start sucking the big 3's dicks, but they actually invest in other cool stuff. In funny contrast, they've allows GG to make a brand new Ip in 10 years and it looks good and interesting. yeah, yeah, 3rd person action adventure rpg thing, but robot dinos are cool and different.
Plus, there's small projects like Wild, RIME, etc. I just hope to see new games liek those this year.
@kinectthedots said:
*remembers E3 2015*
[The Last Guardian, Shenmue 3 and FFVII remake (all cult fan requested games) and Horizon non-FPS or 3rd person shooter adventure RPG
Some COD BS, Battlefront and Batman]
TLG is an old game and Euda isn't even at Sony anymore. And Shenmue 3 and FF7R aren't their projects. They didn't even want to actually fund S3, instead being ok with BS PR that pretend it's their exclusive, like Sony does so often.
But apparently they can spend that kind of money on COD, Destiny, AC,BF, Disney deals with EA, Activision and Ubisoft
So, helping to revive old non-mainstream projects, helping to fund new ones and being the driving force to make cult games happen that might otherwise never appear?
Yeah, all you did was reinforce my point, their efforts can not be questioned.
Sony hitting on all cylinders, no one can dispute. Drop to your knees and be humbled.
So, helping to revive old non-mainstream projects, helping to fund new ones and being the driving force to make cult games happen that might otherwise never appear?
Yeah, all you did was reinforce my point, their efforts can not be questioned.
Sony hitting on all cylinders, no one can dispute. Drop to your knees and be humbled.
except that's not what they're doing with Shenmue 3 and FF7. You know, the games you quoted. Now spending money exclusive DLC for cod and destiny. yeah, definitelly
It's true that Sony gives developers the opportunities to make the games that are in their hearts. Not all of them trun out good but by golly Sony supports their efforts and vision anyway.
That is all apart of the Sony live love learn philosophy, and the way the 8th gen console leader keeps developers flocking to their studios with creative and non mainstream games for all gamers. Thank you Sony!
The Order, though it may be a poor game, is still one more big budget game that Sony has exclusive than Microsoft has YET to come out this year.
So, what are you trying to say, Deadline? Microsoft gets points for not trying? It's very hard to compete with the level of fanboyism that says "Thanks for not making games."
So, helping to revive old non-mainstream projects, helping to fund new ones and being the driving force to make cult games happen that might otherwise never appear?
Yeah, all you did was reinforce my point, their efforts can not be questioned.
Sony hitting on all cylinders, no one can dispute. Drop to your knees and be humbled.
except that's not what they're doing with Shenmue 3 and FF7. You know, the games you quoted. Now spending money exclusive DLC for cod and destiny. yeah, definitelly
So The last Guardian isn't an old non-mainstream project that Sony revived? So Sony isn't helping to fund Shenmue 3? So Sony isn't helping to fund Street Fighter V?
lol seems you are in denial or like to deal in a lot of misinformation on the subject of Sony's efforts but the facts still stand above all and by golly denial of the truth won't change that. It is as I have said, and Sony's efforts can clearly be seen.
No matter if you have a hate filled agenda determined to downplay or tear down what Sony has done with smear tactics, they will still cater to their fans going the extra mile to create the best experiences in gaming because they go by the Live, Love, Learn philosophy and industry as well as the people who love gaming applaud them.
The Order, though it may be a poor game, is still one more big budget game that Sony has exclusive than Microsoft has YET to come out this year.
So, what are you trying to say, Deadline? Microsoft gets points for not trying? It's very hard to compete with the level of fanboyism that says "Thanks for not making games."
"So, what are you trying to say, Deadline?"
Making a joke?
I should ask you what's with the MS stuff since i never meantioned them. You should stop deafaulting to MS everything someone make s a joke about Sony.
No, they're pretty decently spread out. It's just that you hear about their casual mainstream games like Uncharted and God of War the most because they're mainstream.
Not really. Bloodborne, The Last Guardian, Tearaway Unfolded, Street Fighter V aren't exactly mainstream juggernauts. They just need more exclusives in the pipeline.
Facts and truth prevail in the face of underhanded lies and misinformation. Before desperately denying every admirable effort Sony is acknowledged for you should start checking your facts.
Shenmue 3's development is also being funded by Sony
The Shenmue 3 Kickstarter blew past its $2 million goal in less than 24 hours, ....That's impressive by any measure. But how, you may wonder, can a proper Shenmue game be built on a $2 million budget? After all, creator Yu Suzuki told Destructoid in 2011 that the original Shenmue cost $47 million to make, and that was 16 years ago.
The answer really isn't all that surprising: Sony is footing most of the bill.
A valiant effort on your part to spread information you picked up from MS fanboys that want to convince people it's the truth, but Sony's Live, Love, Learn philosophy beacons me to step in and deliver accurate information to not confuse the people.
"...Sony is footing most of the bill..."
We are all humbled
Annnnd.......I think we are done here. :)
Perhaps it was never your desire for people to know the truth, but because you insisted I felt the need to deliver the truth and by golly, that is what I did.
You are welcome, be well, Sony forgives you, now go forth and spared lies no more.
@LJS9502_basic: Hyundai offers more car models than Ferrari too. Doesn't mean Hyundai is better.
When I say no games I mean no good ones. The PS4 would be in trouble if Boodborne didn't come along at the right time. Now that the novelty has worn off of that game, Sony is sinking back into dark times.
Facts and truth prevail in the face of underhanded lies and misinformation. Before desperately denying every admirable effort Sony is acknowledged for you should start checking your fact.
Shenmue 3's development is also being funded by Sony
The Shenmue 3 Kickstarter blew past its $2 million goal in less than 24 hours, ....That's impressive by any measure. But how, you may wonder, can a proper Shenmue game be built on a $2 million budget? After all, creator Yu Suzuki told Destructoid in 2011 that the original Shenmue cost $47 million to make, and that was 16 years ago.
The answer really isn't all that surprising: Sony is footing most of the bill.
A valiant effort on your part to spread information you picked up from MS fanboys that want to convince people it's the truth, but Sony's Live, Love, Learn philosophy beacons me to step in and deliver accurate information to not confuse the people.
"...Sony is footing most of the bill..."
We are all humbled
Annnnd.......I think we are done here.
Perhaps it was never your desire for people to know the truth, but because you insisted I was forced to deliver the truth to end all confusion.
You are welcome, be well, Sony forgives you, now go forth and spared lies no more.
If you read the comments you'd realize how everyone was calling bullshit and giving links to other articles that prove otherwise.
Facts and truth prevail in the face of underhanded lies and misinformation. Before desperately denying every admirable effort Sony is acknowledged for you should start checking your fact.
Shenmue 3's development is also being funded by Sony
The Shenmue 3 Kickstarter blew past its $2 million goal in less than 24 hours, ....That's impressive by any measure. But how, you may wonder, can a proper Shenmue game be built on a $2 million budget? After all, creator Yu Suzuki told Destructoid in 2011 that the original Shenmue cost $47 million to make, and that was 16 years ago.
The answer really isn't all that surprising: Sony is footing most of the bill.
A valiant effort on your part to spread information you picked up from MS fanboys that want to convince people it's the truth, but Sony's Live, Love, Learn philosophy beacons me to step in and deliver accurate information to not confuse the people.
"...Sony is footing most of the bill..."
We are all humbled
Annnnd.......I think we are done here.
Perhaps it was never your desire for people to know the truth, but because you insisted I was forced to deliver the truth to end all confusion.
You are welcome, be well, Sony forgives you, now go forth and spared lies no more.
If you read the comments you'd realize how everyone was calling bullshit and giving links to other articles that prove otherwise.
You and a band of merry elves and call whatever you want but the man, Yu Suzuki, is on record saying Sony is helping with development. Bring as many links with as much spin as you can dish out but nothing is going to override that.
I am afraid Yu Suzuki >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> System Wars insiders.
Uh , the article is talking that Sony won' get the money from the Kickstarter.
"According to Suzuki, Sony will provide assistance on production, marketing and publishing."
I think you need to read the article first , thats a direct quote from it.
Which is what i was talking about. Sony isn't funding and helping make S3. They're only giving the money for marketing and distribution.
Sony, and MS, and Nintendo, all provide assistance with 3rd party exclusives, like BB, Scalebound, Bayonetta 2, etc. In these cases, they also pay for the full game's development and, usually, gain control of the IP. All of the game's budget comes from the console manufacturer.
In Shenmue 3 case, the budget will come from the KS and Paypal.
Infact, Sony themselves admited that Suzuki had gained permission to use the IP from SEGA, and was planning on launching his KS. They heard of it, and wanted the PR. So it was never they where never even trying to bring S3 back anyway.
Sony’s Shuhei Yoshida explained that the Shenmue 3 Kickstarter was a deal worked out between series creator Yu Suzuki and Sega, who holds the rights. When Sony got wind of the project, it decided to boost the campaign at E3 for a very simple reason: “That’s great PR.”
Their first party is almost all casual and has been since the PS2, but not always mainstream, but that's okay because they work with third parties to bring the real games.
At least they aren't Microsoft who went into the generation with virtually nothing and are only just starting to announce games with hardly any gameplay to speak of.
I should ask you what's with the MS stuff since i never meantioned them. You should stop deafaulting to MS everything someone make s a joke about Sony.
Uh , the article is talking that Sony won' get the money from the Kickstarter.
"According to Suzuki, Sony will provide assistance on production, marketing and publishing."
I think you need to read the article first , thats a direct quote from it.
Which is what i was talking about. Sony isn't funding and helping make S3. They're only giving the money for marketing and distribution.
Sony, and MS, and Nintendo, all provide assistance with 3rd party exclusives, like BB, Scalebound, Bayonetta 2, etc. In these cases, they also pay for the full game's development and, usually, gain control of the IP. All of the game's budget comes from the console manufacturer.
In Shenmue 3 case, the budget will come from the KS and Paypal.
Infact, Sony themselves admited that Suzuki had gained permission to use the IP from SEGA, and was planning on launching his KS. They heard of it, and wanted the PR. So it was never they where never even trying to bring S3 back anyway.
Sony’s Shuhei Yoshida explained that the Shenmue 3 Kickstarter was a deal worked out between series creator Yu Suzuki and Sega, who holds the rights. When Sony got wind of the project, it decided to boost the campaign at E3 for a very simple reason: “That’s great PR.”
OK , i guess you think that it's a bad thing telling fans of the series that there is a kickstarter.
And what about the "assistance on production" in my qoute?
Uh , the article is talking that Sony won' get the money from the Kickstarter.
"According to Suzuki, Sony will provide assistance on production, marketing and publishing."
I think you need to read the article first , thats a direct quote from it.
Which is what i was talking about. Sony isn't funding and helping make S3. They're only giving the money for marketing and distribution.
Sony, and MS, and Nintendo, all provide assistance with 3rd party exclusives, like BB, Scalebound, Bayonetta 2, etc. In these cases, they also pay for the full game's development and, usually, gain control of the IP. All of the game's budget comes from the console manufacturer.
In Shenmue 3 case, the budget will come from the KS and Paypal.
Infact, Sony themselves admited that Suzuki had gained permission to use the IP from SEGA, and was planning on launching his KS. They heard of it, and wanted the PR. So it was never they where never even trying to bring S3 back anyway.
Sony’s Shuhei Yoshida explained that the Shenmue 3 Kickstarter was a deal worked out between series creator Yu Suzuki and Sega, who holds the rights. When Sony got wind of the project, it decided to boost the campaign at E3 for a very simple reason: “That’s great PR.”
OK , i guess you think that it's a bad thing telling fans of the series that there is a kickstarter.
And what about the "assistance on production" in my qoute?
The PS4 version. Keep in mind this has to do with SEGA and Yu Suzuki more than anything.
"Sony isn't backing them in the way you think, that's why. Sony isn't supporting the actual development of this game. They are doing all the support for getting the base (PC) game onto the PS4 for Ys Net, covering the costs of doing so (as well as marketing the PS4 version). In exchange they get console exclusivity.
Sony aren't backing the actual development of the core (PC) game on which the PS4 version will depend upon. If the Kickstarter had failed the core (PC) game would have gone poof, and any PS4 version of the game would have gone right along with it.
The Kickstarter wasn't set up to gauge interest, but fund development of the core (PC) game.The"gauging interest" story is however, half-true, half-runaway misconception. The Kickstarter was never set into motion to gauge interest and it has nothing to do with Sony (it would have happened with or without them).
However Sony caught wind of Shenmue III and wanted to bag themselves an exclusivity deal. To get the hire ups to agree to giving Suzuki support funding for realising the PS4 version in exchange for exclusivity (which is totally separate from core development funding, in which Sony has no part) they needed to convince the higher-ups internally that there was enough interest in the game to make it worth funding PS4 support/markerting.
And since Suzuki was going to do the Kickstarter anyway to gather development funds they figured why not watch the Kickstarter as a gauge for interest? In other words, yes Sony did use the Kickstarter to gauge interest, but that wasn't the purpose of the Kickstarter itself (the major issue of contention here).
Simply put: If Sony had no involvement in this affair at all the only two things would change:
i) Shenmue III's Kickstarter would have had a quieter announcement
ii) Shenmue III would be only on PC at release
Sony's involvement has basically ensured a PS4 version of the game at no extra cost to Ys Net (although, increasingly I feel, perhaps at great cost to the project and the perception people have of it)."
"Sony isn't backing them in the way you think, that's why. Sony isn't supporting the actual development of this game. They are doing all the support for getting the base (PC) game onto the PS4 for Ys Net, covering the costs of doing so (as well as marketing the PS4 version). In exchange they get console exclusivity.
Sony aren't backing the actual development of the core (PC) game on which the PS4 version will depend upon. If the Kickstarter had failed the core (PC) game would have gone poof, and any PS4 version of the game would have gone right along with it.
The Kickstarter wasn't set up to gauge interest, but fund development of the core (PC) game.The"gauging interest" story is however, half-true, half-runaway misconception. The Kickstarter was never set into motion to gauge interest and it has nothing to do with Sony (it would have happened with or without them).
However Sony caught wind of Shenmue III and wanted to bag themselves an exclusivity deal. To get the hire ups to agree to giving Suzuki support funding for realising the PS4 version in exchange for exclusivity (which is totally separate from core development funding, in which Sony has no part) they needed to convince the higher-ups internally that there was enough interest in the game to make it worth funding PS4 support/markerting.
And since Suzuki was going to do the Kickstarter anyway to gather development funds they figured why not watch the Kickstarter as a gauge for interest? In other words, yes Sony did use the Kickstarter to gauge interest, but that wasn't the purpose of the Kickstarter itself (the major issue of contention here).
Simply put: If Sony had no involvement in this affair at all the only two things would change:
i) Shenmue III's Kickstarter would have had a quieter announcement
ii) Shenmue III would be only on PC at release
Sony's involvement has basically ensured a PS4 version of the game at no extra cost to Ys Net (although, increasingly I feel, perhaps at great cost to the project and the perception people have of it)."
Thank you.
Sony just got an exclusive game that would have never been seen on consoles.
Yu Suzuki has a "partnership" with Sony, but Sony is only handling the PS4 version of the product and really isn't "funding" Shenmue at all.
Upon quick inspection, I see that the "quote" you have here is nowhere in the link you have given. Essentially, you just fabricated that quote in an attempt to lie and mislead others.
"but Sony is only handling the PS4 version of the product and really isn't "funding" Shenmue"
Sad that there are people that desperate to slander and deny Sony of credibility that they stoop to creating lies in an attempt to show their malice. Shame on you.
It was silly to try and fool me on this link because 1. I have already seen and read that information before and 2. Thinking I would just trust your word and not verify your supposed "quote" here.
Let's look at what a quote from you link actually does say:
"After learning of Kickstarter, I knew it would be possible to get Shenmue 3 started. Wanting to make the best game possible, I also knew that I would have to look to more traditional means to obtain all the funds that would be needed to create the game I had envisioned.
Sony and Shibuya Productions have been wonderful partners because they believe in Shenmue and want to see the best for the fans and the game. Their investment in (and support of) Shenmue have helped to realize a sequel that will stand proud with its predecessors. ... I can say that with their assistance on the production and marketing end, and in Sony’s case with some publishing support as well"
There you have it!
I ask you where, in any of that link, did it say anything about "the PS4 version"? Where in any of that link does it say "Sony really isn't funding Shenmue"? Your entire "quote" was a complete FABRICATION on your part.
Finally you can't "call bullshit" on verified information unless it is verified to be false by an updated or another source. The authors of the link I posted haven't updated or changed any information to back up what you are saying. Where is your link saying Sony is infact NOT helping with development? I'll wait.
The link you have says NOTHING about sony NOT funding anything. You are simply making up what you want to believe but that is not how you confirm or debunk information my friend.
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