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#1 Joedgabe
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That Playstation All-star is just awful. The mechanics are... well... dated and boring, and it clearly has an unbalance issue.

I call for Major Flop ~

Anyone actually thinks this game has a chance ?

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#2 lx_theo
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Given a lot of people in the media that have played it have written how fun it is (even many who thought it;d be bad going into it). I'd say it has a good chance.

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#3 Bigboi500
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That Playstation All-star is just awful. The mechanics are... well... dated and boring, and it clearly has an unbalance issue.

I call for Major Flop ~

Anyone actually thinks this game has a chance ?

Joedgabe

No it looks like unoriginal sh*t. But then again I wasn't much of a fan of SSB either.

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#4 JohnnyCageMK
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It will flop in sales like most PS3 exclusives.
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#5 noscope-ak47
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Sure it is a rip off on nintendo's game but that does not mean it will be a bad game if done right.

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#6 Joedgabe
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Given a lot of people in the media that have played it have written how fun it is (even many who thought it;d be bad going into it). I'd say it has a good chance.

lx_theo

It looks really plain to be honest.... there were some power up items but the fights themselves seem unskilled and truly unbalanced. Dying with but 1 skill is really lame.. that's why a lot of people didn't like SSB brawl because of the ultimates.. some characters ult just 1 hit killed you instead of just helping.

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#8 spinecaton
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If they launch it at $40 it will do pretty well, but right now it does not look like a good $60 blockbuster.

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#9 KBFloYd
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been saying looks like a 5 dollar psn game...

hope im wrong but...they should have copied melee not brawl.

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#10 _Cadbury_
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I love how All-Stars is apparently a SSB clone but also destined to fail. From what I've read, people who have actually played the game, have enjoyed it. No one expects it to be a 10/10 title. It's just another game to enjoy.
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[QUOTE="_Cadbury_"]I love how All-Stars is apparently a SSB clone but also destined to fail. From what I've read, people who have actually played the game, have enjoyed it. No one expects it to be a 10/10 title. It's just another game to enjoy.

Because Nintendo has enough well known mascots to make it work. Their characters don't seem out of place. Sony has random crap like Sly Cooper vs Fat Princess vs Big Daddy vs Nathan Drake. Thats just dumb.
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#12 Hoznary
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[QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"][QUOTE="_Cadbury_"]I love how All-Stars is apparently a SSB clone but also destined to fail. From what I've read, people who have actually played the game, have enjoyed it. No one expects it to be a 10/10 title. It's just another game to enjoy.

Because Nintendo has enough well known mascots to make it work. Their characters don't seem out of place. Sony has random crap like Sly Cooper vs Fat Princess vs Big Daddy vs Nathan Drake. Thats just dumb.

o.o not sure if you are serious
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#13 CanYouDiglt
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[QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"][QUOTE="_Cadbury_"]I love how All-Stars is apparently a SSB clone but also destined to fail. From what I've read, people who have actually played the game, have enjoyed it. No one expects it to be a 10/10 title. It's just another game to enjoy.

Because Nintendo has enough well known mascots to make it work. Their characters don't seem out of place. Sony has random crap like Sly Cooper vs Fat Princess vs Big Daddy vs Nathan Drake. Thats just dumb.

That is true. Nintendo has the most iconic game characters but seriously who gives a damn about characters like PaRappa the Rapper. Mael Radec and Fat Princess?
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#14 lx_theo
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[QUOTE="lx_theo"]

Given a lot of people in the media that have played it have written how fun it is (even many who thought it;d be bad going into it). I'd say it has a good chance.

Joedgabe

It looks really plain to be honest.... there were some power up items but the fights themselves seem unskilled and truly unbalanced. Dying with but 1 skill is really lame.. that's why a lot of people didn't like SSB brawl because of the ultimates.. some characters ult just 1 hit killed you instead of just helping.

I'd say try before you knock it. It doesn't seem the type of game or genre even where you can tell if you'd like it by watching it.
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[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"][QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"][QUOTE="_Cadbury_"]I love how All-Stars is apparently a SSB clone but also destined to fail. From what I've read, people who have actually played the game, have enjoyed it. No one expects it to be a 10/10 title. It's just another game to enjoy.

Because Nintendo has enough well known mascots to make it work. Their characters don't seem out of place. Sony has random crap like Sly Cooper vs Fat Princess vs Big Daddy vs Nathan Drake. Thats just dumb.

That is true. Nintendo has the most iconic game characters but seriously who gives a damn about characters like PaRappa the Rapper. Mael Radec and Fat Princess?

who gave a damn about ice climbers, Daisy, Roy, Captain falcon, Marth, mr game-a-watch?
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#16 deactivated-61cc564148ef4
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It's a copy but it looks decent. Not sure I'll pay full price though

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#17 soapandbubbles
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[QUOTE="Joedgabe"]

That Playstation All-star is just awful. The mechanics are... well... dated and boring, and it clearly has an unbalance issue.

I call for Major Flop ~

Anyone actually thinks this game has a chance ?

Bigboi500

No it looks like unoriginal sh*t. But then again I wasn't much of a fan of SSB either.

yes cause by LAW, games need to always be ORIGINAL and UNIQUE to be considered good at all. Love the logic!

If it's FUN and it works, that's all that matters. According to previews this seems to be the case.

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#18 josephl64
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="Joedgabe"]

That Playstation All-star is just awful. The mechanics are... well... dated and boring, and it clearly has an unbalance issue.

I call for Major Flop ~

Anyone actually thinks this game has a chance ?

soapandbubbles

No it looks like unoriginal sh*t. But then again I wasn't much of a fan of SSB either.

yes cause by LAW, games need to always be ORIGINAL and UNIQUE to be considered good at all. Love the logic!

If it's FUN and it works, that's all that matters. According to previews this seems to be the case.

except it doesn't work...besides the fact that the gameplay itself looks bland, they are still stuck using that grey color palette this gen seems to love in the West and instead of making everybody stand out from the background, they all seem to blend in.
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#19 Pikminmaniac
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I used to think the idea behind this game might've worked out, but then I noticed something that essentially makes the gameplay broken.

At first I thought you fought your opponents to build your meter. Level one supers are the weakest, but if you manage to hold off until you acquire a level 3 super, it can be quite devastating. This much is true, but I also thought that if you died you lost any meter you gained. this would result in a risk and reward type of gameplay and it sounded interesting to me. Either you risk holding off on your super to gain more meter for a bigger payoff but risk losing it all if someone picks you off with their own super, or you use what you have and claim points the safe way.

The E3 demo showed that even if you die your meter remains... That makes no sense. Is there any risk in holding on to your super at all then? They better fix this

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#20 Hoznary
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I used to think the idea behind this game might've worked out, but then I noticed something that essentially makes the gameplay broken.

At first I thought you fought your opponents to build your meter. Level one supers are the weakest, but if you manage to hold off until you acquire a level 3 super, it can be quite devastating. This much is true, but I also thought that if you died you lost any meter you gained. this would result in a risk and reward type of gameplay and it sounded interesting to me. Either you risk holding off on your super to gain more meter for a bigger payoff but risk losing it all if someone picks you off with their own super, or you use what you have and claim points the safe way.

The E3 demo showed that even if you die your meter remains... That makes no sense. Is there any risk in holding on to your super at all then? They better fix this

Pikminmaniac
the game is not fully developed yet. Look at crysis 3 gameplay at e3 he has full energy bar even while using cloak and running
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#21 Joedgabe
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[QUOTE="_Cadbury_"]I love how All-Stars is apparently a SSB clone but also destined to fail. From what I've read, people who have actually played the game, have enjoyed it. No one expects it to be a 10/10 title. It's just another game to enjoy.JohnnyCageMK
Because Nintendo has enough well known mascots to make it work. Their characters don't seem out of place. Sony has random crap like Sly Cooper vs Fat Princess vs Big Daddy vs Nathan Drake. Thats just dumb.

I don't think well known characters matter much. While they might help what makes SSB great is it's unique combat that actually works. Damage by % the higher it is the further the toss... and if you're out a bit further than the screen you're dead..... all that with good fighting mechanics.

Genious.

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All the doom and gloomers my only question is this, "Have you played it yet?" If not lets wait until it comes out before judging it. Thanks goodnight
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#23 Promised_Trini
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Most of the idiots slamming the game better,do some history research on fighting games and mash ups.

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#25 campzor
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lol... the game is going to be just as fun as smash bros.. haters gonna hate.. Go stick with nintendo.
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#26 OneLazyAsian
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Like I said before, if Sony wanted to copy a game mechanic that was good and not completely be seen like they were ripping off Nintendo, they should have ripped off Power Stone.

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[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"][QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"] Because Nintendo has enough well known mascots to make it work. Their characters don't seem out of place. Sony has random crap like Sly Cooper vs Fat Princess vs Big Daddy vs Nathan Drake. Thats just dumb.Hoznary
That is true. Nintendo has the most iconic game characters but seriously who gives a damn about characters like PaRappa the Rapper. Mael Radec and Fat Princess?

who gave a damn about ice climbers, Daisy, Roy, Captain falcon, Marth, mr game-a-watch?

Daisy was not in any of the Smash Bros games(Daisy is an alt costume color for Peach.) and the Japanese fans apparently give enough of a damn about Marth to vote him into Melee's roster.

As for Roy, there are several people who were upset that he did not return in Brawl and as for Captain Falcon, I think more people know him from Smash Brothers then from F-Zero. Regardless, CF is a very popular character in the Smash Series.

About the only two I would agree with you on is Mr. Game and Watch and the Ice Climbers. They are somewhat popular, but those two are retro characters who were pulled out of games and handhelds that many modern fans have never played.

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#28 2013th
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[QUOTE="soapandbubbles"]

] yes cause by LAW, games need to always be ORIGINAL and UNIQUE to be considered good at all. Love the logic!

If it's FUN and it works, that's all that matters. According to previews this seems to be the case.

josephl64

except it doesn't work...besides the fact that the gameplay itself looks bland, they are still stuck using that grey color palette this gen seems to love in the West and instead of making everybody stand out from the background, they all seem to blend in.

I think you would actually have to play the game to say it doesnt work, not just going by the colors in the game

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#29 drakekratos
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everyone says its really good
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#30 drakekratos
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everyone says its really good
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#32 Pikachu69er
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It will flop in sales like most PS3 exclusives.JohnnyCageMK

Gran turismo > halo reach

Uncharted series > gears series

all sales wise :lol:

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#33 kuraimen
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That Playstation All-star is just awful. The mechanics are... well... dated and boring, and it clearly has an unbalance issue.

I call for Major Flop ~

Anyone actually thinks this game has a chance ?

Joedgabe
When and where have you played it?
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#34 pc-ps360
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the game might turn out good but too me it just feel like a poor man super smash bros. i prefer the nintendo cast over the ps3 cast.

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#35 BibiMaghoo
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That Playstation All-star is just awful. The mechanics are... well... dated and boring, and it clearly has an unbalance issue.

I call for Major Flop ~

Anyone actually thinks this game has a chance ?

Joedgabe
I game mostly on PS3. This game looks fkn awful. You are right.
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#36 Lucianu
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Like I said before, if Sony wanted to copy a game mechanic that was good and not completely be seen like they were ripping off Nintendo, they should have ripped off Power Stone.

OneLazyAsian

Gotta agree with that. Power Stone is a far better non-traditional fighting game than Smash Bros. can ever hope to be. But i bet people would still call it a Smash rip-off.

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#37 SpinoRaptor24
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I think I'd rather play it on my Vita than the PS3. But yes it still looks like a pure ripoff of SSB except stupider since you'll have a Helghast soldier jumping up and down like Mario. Seems like the only people who are defending this game are the cows.

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#38 Tikeio
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It will flop in sales like most PS3 exclusives.JohnnyCageMK

Well, it certainly won't put up anywhere near SSBB numbers (+10 million). Game looks like s**t, to be honest.

this>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>that

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#39 campzor
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[QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"]It will flop in sales like most PS3 exclusives.Tikeio

Well, it certainly won't put up anywhere near SSBB numbers (+10 million). Game looks like s**t, to be honest.

this>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>that

nope
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#40 Tikeio
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[QUOTE="Tikeio"]

[QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"]It will flop in sales like most PS3 exclusives.campzor

Well, it certainly won't put up anywhere near SSBB numbers (+10 million). Game looks like s**t, to be honest.

this>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>that

nope

yep

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#41 MicrosoftRules
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lol... the game is going to be just as fun as smash bros.. haters gonna hate.. Go stick with nintendo.campzor

Smash Bros sucks.

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#42 campzor
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[QUOTE="campzor"]lol... the game is going to be just as fun as smash bros.. haters gonna hate.. Go stick with nintendo.MicrosoftRules

Smash Bros sucks.

no it doesnt. Hmm.. that argument ended quickly.
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#43 MicrosoftRules
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[QUOTE="MicrosoftRules"]

[QUOTE="campzor"]lol... the game is going to be just as fun as smash bros.. haters gonna hate.. Go stick with nintendo.campzor

Smash Bros sucks.

no it doesnt. Hmm.. that argument ended quickly.

Lol, yes it does..

That argument started back up quickly.

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[QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"]It will flop in sales like most PS3 exclusives.Tikeio

Well, it certainly won't put up anywhere near SSBB numbers (+10 million). Game looks like s**t, to be honest.

this>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>that

Says the person, who thinks the new DMC looks "awesome".
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#46 razgriz_101
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[QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"][QUOTE="_Cadbury_"]I love how All-Stars is apparently a SSB clone but also destined to fail. From what I've read, people who have actually played the game, have enjoyed it. No one expects it to be a 10/10 title. It's just another game to enjoy.CanYouDiglt
Because Nintendo has enough well known mascots to make it work. Their characters don't seem out of place. Sony has random crap like Sly Cooper vs Fat Princess vs Big Daddy vs Nathan Drake. Thats just dumb.

That is true. Nintendo has the most iconic game characters but seriously who gives a damn about characters like PaRappa the Rapper. Mael Radec and Fat Princess?

Clearly one did not grow up in the 90's since your dismissing Parappa.

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#47 Eponique
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It's an SSB clone how hard can this be I don't think it will be bad but that's not to Sony's credit.
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#48 Animal-Mother
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That Playstation All-star is just awful. The mechanics are... well... dated and boring, and it clearly has an unbalance issue.

I call for Major Flop ~

Anyone actually thinks this game has a chance ?

Joedgabe
it clearly has balance issues? The game isn't even out yet? Also Blizzard balanced starcraft for almost 10 years. :roll:
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:cool:
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#50 Eponique
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[QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"]It will flop in sales like most PS3 exclusives.Pikachu69er

Gran turismo > halo reach

Uncharted series > gears series

all sales wise :lol:

You've got your less than signs backwards.