Sony on pace to SHATTER MS billion $$$ loss record. Now who looks DUMB???

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#1 Furry_Clam
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All we heard was MS lost 4-5 billion on Xbox 1.

Now look kiddies Sony has already lost over 3 billion on PS3 and not even year 2 yet. So it seems Sony will obliterate What MS lost on Xbox 1 when all is said and done. And some analysts are doubting if Sony will ever turn a profit on PS3.

Sure go ahead and say na who cares. Well you guys should Sony does not have even close the deep pockets like MS. And Sony investors may say NO WAY and pull the plug for a PS4:roll:

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#3 Chutebox
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How many new accounts is Fuzzy going to make lol.
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#4 Brainkiller05
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You're an embarrassment.
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#5 SpruceCaboose
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http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/31/sonys-game-division-turns-a-profit/
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#6 Furry_Clam
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How many new accounts is Fuzzy going to make lol.Chutebox

Who's Fuzzy?

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#7 TheRealMC01
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Yep, the ps3 is starting to catch up, but i don't think cows will be happy about this one :lol:

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#8 Jynxzor
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http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/31/sonys-game-division-turns-a-profit/SpruceCaboose

wow.../thread lol.

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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/31/sonys-game-division-turns-a-profit/Jynxzor

wow.../thread lol.

That is gaming division. Not the PS3 itself.

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#10 EVOLV3
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How many new accounts is Fuzzy going to make lol.Chutebox


:lol: Hes back again, for like the 5th time.
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#11 killerfist
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Fuzzy again..
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#12 TheRealMC01
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I dunno who Fuzzy is, but.....

Fuzzy... Furry... hmmm

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[QUOTE="Jynxzor"]

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/31/sonys-game-division-turns-a-profit/Furry_Clam

wow.../thread lol.

That is gaming division. Not the PS3 itself.

isn't the PS3 part of the gaming devision?
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#14 Eltroz
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http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/31/sonys-game-division-turns-a-profit/SpruceCaboose
Really that is the game division. The PS3 alone is loosing money it is just the psp and PS2 that are making the money. I saw a few articles about this past couple days.
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#15 killerfist
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[QUOTE="Furry_Clam"][QUOTE="Jynxzor"]

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/31/sonys-game-division-turns-a-profit/jack_russel

wow.../thread lol.

That is gaming division. Not the PS3 itself.

isn't the PS3 part of the gaming devision?

hmm..you're on to something there..

lol

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[QUOTE="Jynxzor"]

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/31/sonys-game-division-turns-a-profit/Furry_Clam

wow.../thread lol.

That is gaming division. Not the PS3 itself.

And the PS3 is under the games division. Obviously the PS3 is not killing Sony. Its not even hurting the games division. So much for Sony not having deep pockets and killing the PS4...

And the PS3 is selling well, and its software is picking up quite well, so I don't see any issue with future profitability.

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[QUOTE="Jynxzor"]

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/31/sonys-game-division-turns-a-profit/Furry_Clam

wow.../thread lol.

That is gaming division. Not the PS3 itself.

PS3 is a part of the games division....

"Sony sold 4.9 million PS3s last quarter after slashing console prices, boosting game titles, and cutting production costs internally"

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#18 EVOLV3
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Sony is not loosing any money. TC is the one who ended up looking dumb.
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#19 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/31/sonys-game-division-turns-a-profit/Eltroz
Really that is the game division. The PS3 alone is loosing money it is just the psp and PS2 that are making the money. I saw a few articles about this past couple days.

Ps2, Ps1, xbox, 360: what do they all have in common? They all lost money when launched for a good amount of time. This is nothing new people...

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[QUOTE="Eltroz"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/31/sonys-game-division-turns-a-profit/Furry_Clam

Really that is the game division. The PS3 alone is loosing money it is just the psp and PS2 that are making the money. I saw a few articles about this past couple days.

Yeah and why do you think Sony is even still making PS2. Becuase it's keeping the division a float. Once that's gone expect huge losses to set in.

By then the PS3 will be profitable. Its steadily selling better and better, and as it moves forward and the software library expands it will only make more money for Sony.

Your thread is really more like something that should have came up in early 2007 when the PS3 really was appearing to tank.

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#22 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Eltroz"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/31/sonys-game-division-turns-a-profit/Furry_Clam

Really that is the game division. The PS3 alone is loosing money it is just the psp and PS2 that are making the money. I saw a few articles about this past couple days.

Yeah and why do you think Sony is even still making PS2. Becuase it's keeping the division a float. Once that's gone expect huge losses to set in.

Or the Ps3 is going to start making money. I guess your hate for Sony and fanboy thinking process displays the more likely outcome though.....

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#23 HappyAppe
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[QUOTE="Furry_Clam"][QUOTE="Jynxzor"]

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/31/sonys-game-division-turns-a-profit/SpruceCaboose

wow.../thread lol.

That is gaming division. Not the PS3 itself.

And the PS3 is under the games division. Obviously the PS3 is not killing Sony. Its not even hurting the games division. So much for Sony not having deep pockets and killing the PS4...

And the PS3 is selling well, and its software is picking up quite well, so I don't see any issue with future profitability.

Well this thread failed horribly.

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your the one who looks dumb for failing to provide a link
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#25 skektek
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[QUOTE="Eltroz"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/31/sonys-game-division-turns-a-profit/Furry_Clam

Really that is the game division. The PS3 alone is loosing money it is just the psp and PS2 that are making the money. I saw a few articles about this past couple days.

Yeah and why do you think Sony is even still making PS2. Becuase it's keeping the division a float. Once that's gone expect huge losses to set in.

Sony supported the PS2 (and the PS1 before it) for so long because it had a large profitable userbase. That large userbase has only just begun to make the switch to the next generation.
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#26 Eltroz
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This is what he is talking about

http://www.gamedaily.com/articles/news/ps3-has-cost-sony-332-billion-so-far/?biz=1

Yes Sony will be fine but it is the same when the cows laughed at Xbox money loss even though MS could even handle it easier then Sony can. Xbox lost tons and now so is the PS3. Yes other areas of Sony are making money but not the PS3. SAme way it was with the Xbox.

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This is what he is talking about

http://www.gamedaily.com/articles/news/ps3-has-cost-sony-332-billion-so-far/?biz=1

Yes Sony will be fine but it is the same when the cows laughed at Xbox money loss even though MS could even handle it easier then Sony can. Xbox lost tons and now so is the PS3. Yes other areas of Sony are making money but not the PS3. SAme way it was with the Xbox.

Eltroz

I swear this gen has just been a complete 180. Hopefully, Sony will get out of this hole, because further down the line, I would like to get a PS3.

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#28 munu9
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The difference is sony's losses have been declining significantly from year to year, MS's has been a lot more consistent.
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#29 SpruceCaboose
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This is what he is talking about

http://www.gamedaily.com/articles/news/ps3-has-cost-sony-332-billion-so-far/?biz=1

Yes Sony will be fine but it is the same when the cows laughed at Xbox money loss even though MS could even handle it easier then Sony can. Xbox lost tons and now so is the PS3. Yes other areas of Sony are making money but not the PS3. SAme way it was with the Xbox.

Eltroz

I know that. But like the huge losses on the Xbox and Xbox 360, MS and Sony both knew they were going to lose money in the short term to make money in the long run.

The RRoD $1 Billion was a bad hit, because it was unexpected, but MS could absorb it with their massive cash flow.

This $3.3 Billion was not unexpected and is not too large for Sony. It was a calculated risk to spend money to make money, and from the looks of it, it seems like it was a good decision after all.

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The difference is sony's losses have been declining significantly from year to year, MS's has been a lot more consistent.munu9

MS's game division also reached profitability again this year, and has been in the black more often than not lately.

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#31 munu9
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[QUOTE="munu9"]The difference is sony's losses have been declining significantly from year to year, MS's has been a lot more consistent.SpruceCaboose

MS's game division also reached profitability again this year, and has been in the black more often than not lately.

I'm talking about since the xbox came out, this is one of the few times when they actually started making profit, before that they've been losing money on the xbox (and 360) for many, many years...

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#32 Eltroz
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[QUOTE="Eltroz"]

This is what he is talking about

http://www.gamedaily.com/articles/news/ps3-has-cost-sony-332-billion-so-far/?biz=1

Yes Sony will be fine but it is the same when the cows laughed at Xbox money loss even though MS could even handle it easier then Sony can. Xbox lost tons and now so is the PS3. Yes other areas of Sony are making money but not the PS3. SAme way it was with the Xbox.

SpruceCaboose

I know that. But like the huge losses on the Xbox and Xbox 360, MS and Sony both knew they were going to lose money in the short term to make money in the long run.

The RRoD $1 Billion was a bad hit, because it was unexpected, but MS could absorb it with their massive cash flow.

This $3.3 Billion was not unexpected and is not too large for Sony. It was a calculated risk to spend money to make money, and from the looks of it, it seems like it was a good decision after all.

So it was a big shock to MS when they lost money on the xbox but Sony knew it would happen judging from last thing you said? Come on. It is the same thing. I guess it is fine that everyone laughes at xbox loss but Sony is doing just fine because the psp and PS2 make money. MS made far more money then Sony did as far as companies go during last gen just the xbox by itself was a loss. PS3 is at this point has been a huge money sink. Does not matter what psp has done.

Besides for the rrod money loss the 360 has made money almost every quarter so far.

I do not care either way i just think the double standards are pretty funny.

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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="Eltroz"]

This is what he is talking about

http://www.gamedaily.com/articles/news/ps3-has-cost-sony-332-billion-so-far/?biz=1

Yes Sony will be fine but it is the same when the cows laughed at Xbox money loss even though MS could even handle it easier then Sony can. Xbox lost tons and now so is the PS3. Yes other areas of Sony are making money but not the PS3. SAme way it was with the Xbox.

Eltroz

I know that. But like the huge losses on the Xbox and Xbox 360, MS and Sony both knew they were going to lose money in the short term to make money in the long run.

The RRoD $1 Billion was a bad hit, because it was unexpected, but MS could absorb it with their massive cash flow.

This $3.3 Billion was not unexpected and is not too large for Sony. It was a calculated risk to spend money to make money, and from the looks of it, it seems like it was a good decision after all.

So it was a big shock to MS when they lost money on the xbox but Sony knew it would happen judging from last thing you said? Come on. It is the same thing. I guess it is fine that everyone laughes at xbox loss but Sony is doing just fine because the psp and PS2 make money. MS made far more money then Sony did as far as companies go during last gen just the xbox by itself was a loss. PS3 is at this point has been a huge money sink. Does not matter what psp has done.

Besides for the rrod money loss the 360 has made money almost every quarter so far.

I do not care either way i just think the double standards are pretty funny.

He said the RRoD billion was a shock, which it was. That's different than normal loss on a system for the first couple of years.

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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/31/sonys-game-division-turns-a-profit/Eltroz
Really that is the game division. The PS3 alone is loosing money it is just the psp and PS2 that are making the money. I saw a few articles about this past couple days.

yes, but Sony doesnt care wats making them money as long as they are making money. Net Profit is all they care about.

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#35 skektek
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[QUOTE="munu9"]The difference is sony's losses have been declining significantly from year to year, MS's has been a lot more consistent.SpruceCaboose

MS's game division also reached profitability again this year, and has been in the black more often than not lately.

MS has had profitable quarters but the Gaming Division has not had a profitable year yet. The Gaming Division has posted 3 consecutive profitable quarters but only because they took the RROD hit up front at the beginning of the fiscal year. I think we will find that Gaming Division in '08 as a whole (which ends June 30th) wasn't profitable.
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#36 Eltroz
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[QUOTE="Eltroz"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/31/sonys-game-division-turns-a-profit/II_Seraphim_II

Really that is the game division. The PS3 alone is loosing money it is just the psp and PS2 that are making the money. I saw a few articles about this past couple days.

yes, but Sony doesnt care wats making them money as long as they are making money. Net Profit is all they care about.

Does not matter. Their movie division could make them a trillion dollors does not change the fact the PS3 is losing money. Many areas of MS made billions but last gen xbox lost also. Some consoles turn out to be money sinks.
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]How many new accounts is Fuzzy going to make lol.Furry_Clam

Who's Fuzzy?

You
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All we heard was MS lost 4-5 billion on Xbox 1.

Now look kiddies Sony has already lost over 3 billion on PS3 and not even year 2 yet. So it seems Sony will obliterate What MS lost on Xbox 1 when all is said and done. And some analysts are doubting if Sony will ever turn a profit on PS3.

Sure go ahead and say na who cares. Well you guys should Sony does not have even close the deep pockets like MS. And Sony investors may say NO WAY and pull the plug for a PS4:roll:

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it atleast makes money from games and blu rays...and xbox didnt and doesnt...and still ended up in loses
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Come talk to me when Sony is hinting at bowing out of the console race. Until then, keep it shut. Please. :)
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#40 Eltroz
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Come talk to me when Sony is hinting at bowing out of the console race. Until then, keep it shut. Please. :)The_Crucible
He did not say anything mean about anyone. He is talking about current news with a curent gen console. You do have the ability to not post. Why dont you keep it shut then ...please.
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Must....not....answer.....the question.....of....who....looks....dumb.....
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[QUOTE="The_Crucible"]Come talk to me when Sony is hinting at bowing out of the console race. Until then, keep it shut. Please. :)Eltroz
He did not say anything mean about anyone. He is talking about current news with a curent gen console. You do have the ability to not post. Why dont you keep it shut then ...please.

wow cant believe fuzzy has a friend on SW:lol: i pity you for defending him so passionately

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Who looks dumb? Both of them.
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#45 Bubblehash
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Sony on pace to SHATTER MS billion $$$ loss record. Now who looks DUMB??? Furry_Clam
Umm.....You do?
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[QUOTE="Jynxzor"]

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/31/sonys-game-division-turns-a-profit/Furry_Clam

That is also January and only represents their holiday quarter

wow.../thread lol.

That is gaming division. Not the PS3 itself.

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The mods need to ip ban you fuzzy.
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

[QUOTE="munu9"]The difference is sony's losses have been declining significantly from year to year, MS's has been a lot more consistent.skektek

MS's game division also reached profitability again this year, and has been in the black more often than not lately.

MS has had profitable quarters but the Gaming Division has not had a profitable year yet. The Gaming Division has posted 3 consecutive profitable quarters but only because they took the RROD hit up front at the beginning of the fiscal year. I think we will find that Gaming Division in '08 as a whole (which ends June 30th) wasn't profitable.

i believe that if MSFT reports a profit this quarter that will 4 quarters of profit, so their probably on the verge of reporting a profitable year

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How is this guy even allowed to post again after countless account bans. ??
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#50 Bubblehash
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The mods need to ip ban you fuzzy. Lemmywinks_360
Sadly there are even ways around that.