Sony or Microsoft: Which Has Better First Party Game Developers?

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#1 Mystery_Writer
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now that bungie is out.., which has better first party developerment studios?
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#2 lawlessx
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sony
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#3 clone01
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Sony on paper, though they still have yet to deliver. i'm sure it will happen. the team ico stuff alone puts them over the top.

though, in that race, i'll still pick nintendo.

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I am a lemming but I would say Sony
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#5 MrGrimFandango
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MS has first party games?
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#6 EL_MEXICAN
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Sony on paper, though they still have yet to deliver. i'm sure it will happen. the team ico stuff alone puts them over the top.

though, in that race, i'll still pick nintendo.

clone01

Agree on the ICO part. Sony is on top in my opinion, jak and daxter, ratchet, uncharted, HS, resistance.

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#7 Riverwolf007
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Sony, I don't think it's even close if you take into account the PS1 and 2.
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#8 saolin323
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Microsoft
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#9 paul52181
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Sony without a doubt.
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#10 TMontana1004
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Sony. A shame they still can't get an AAAE though.
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Sony, no doubt about it.
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#12 AdrianWerner
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Sony by far. All MS has now is RARE, Lionhead and Ensemble (and ACES, but they;re PC-only)
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#13 Chutebox
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Even with Bungie, Sony still has better 1st party.
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#14 theonlyGAMESTER
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Microsoft... They have always pumped out fantastic AA-AAAE's since last gen... and they still have the same momentum...
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#15 Lord_Pro
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Sony

God of War 3
Twisted metal
GT5
Eight days
White Knight
The Agency
Final Fantasy
DC Univerise
The Getaway 3
Killzone 2
Socom

just to name few of sony coming first party game i believe sony got MS beat in that department

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#16 Gunraidan
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First Party? What First Party?
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#17 Not-A-Stalker
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Even with Bungie I think Sony is still better by a long shot.
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#18 goddamn_
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Microsoft by far. None of Sony games nowhere near Forza, Halo, Ninja Gaiden, Conker
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#19 Lord_Pro
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Microsoft by far. None of Sony games nowhere near Forza, Halo, Ninja Gaiden, Conkergoddamn_

Gran Truismo franchise> Forza
Final fantasy franchise > Halo
God Of War franchise > Ninja Gaiden
Jak and Daxter franchise > Conker

POSTED OWNED :lol:

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[QUOTE="goddamn_"]Microsoft by far. None of Sony games nowhere near Forza, Halo, Ninja Gaiden, ConkerLord_Pro

Gran Truismo franchise> Forza
Final fantasy franchise > Halo
God Of War franchise > Ninja Gaiden
Jak and Daxter franchise > Conker

POSTED OWNED :lol:

final fantasy or ninja gaiden isn't 1st party titles buddy. Sorry but you just owned yourself
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#21 goddamn_
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Gran Truismo franchise> Forza
Final fantasy franchise > Halo
God Of War franchise > Ninja Gaiden
Jak and Daxter franchise > Conker

POSTED OWNED :lol:

Lord_Pro

LOL. Finished GT 4 at 10%, compare to Forza it's trash. Never saw the end of GoW 1/2 cause after NG it feels pretty low and I didn't finish both. Played FF 12 demo - forgot about it.

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[QUOTE="goddamn_"]Microsoft by far. None of Sony games nowhere near Forza, Halo, Ninja Gaiden, ConkerLord_Pro

Gran Truismo franchise> Forza
Final fantasy franchise > Halo
God Of War franchise > Ninja Gaiden
Jak and Daxter franchise > Conker

POSTED OWNED :lol:

Wrong. Try again.

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#23 Ninja-Hippo
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It's tough to call really; Metal Gear Solid would be my favourite game of the bunch, and that's Sony. However i also couldn't live without Halo or Ninja Gaiden and those are both microsoft. I think if i had to only have one console i'd probably go with microsoft, as it's better to have more AAA games. Missing out on MGS would be tough though. :P

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Sony, especially now that MS has hardly anybody left.
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[QUOTE="Lord_Pro"]

[QUOTE="goddamn_"]Microsoft by far. None of Sony games nowhere near Forza, Halo, Ninja Gaiden, Conkerbphan

Gran Truismo franchise> Forza
Final fantasy franchise > Halo
God Of War franchise > Ninja Gaiden
Jak and Daxter franchise > Conker

POSTED OWNED :lol:

Wrong. Try again.

Ninja Gaiden is exclusive to Microsoft now? :?

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#27 goddamn_
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Ninja Gaiden is exclusive to Microsoft now?

Hexagon_777

Yes

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[QUOTE="goddamn_"]Microsoft by far. None of Sony games nowhere near Forza, Halo, Ninja Gaiden, ConkerLord_Pro

Gran Truismo franchise> Forza
Final fantasy franchise > Halo
God Of War franchise > Ninja Gaiden
Jak and Daxter franchise > Conker

POSTED OWNED :lol:

That's so very, very wrong. :?

Forza was better than GT4. Forza 2 is the best racer on any console right now. While i expect GT5 to be better; there'll probably be a whole new Forza by then. At the very least the two are on equal standing in terms of quality. You could never catagorically say one is better than the other.

Final Fantasy > Halo? How can you even compare those games? :?

You're probably the only person i've seen who liked God of War more than Ninja Gaiden. :?

And Jak and Daxter > Conker? Again, tough to say. Jak and Daxter is awsome, but that's a whole franchise. There's only ever been one conker game (kinda), and it was awesome too.

Dont be such a fanboy. :?

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Microsoft by far. None of Sony games nowhere near Forza, Halo, Ninja Gaiden, Conkergoddamn_
lol ninja gainden is not first party we would of never gotten ngs.

gt,motorstorm,wipeout,twisted metal>>>>>>>>>>forza should i go on.

god of war, shadow of the collossis,ico>>>>>>.ninja gaiden should i go on.

rachet and clank,jak,sly cooper>>>>>>>>conker should i go on

resistance,killzone,solcom>>>>>>>>>halo should i go on

see it not one game it is that mutiple games is always better than one franchise in each gene

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#30 tmntPunchout
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Sony.
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#31 jimbobtom
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do any of you no what first party developers are?

NG is not a 1st party game

FF is not

MGS4 is not

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#32 Not-A-Stalker
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resistance,killzone,solcom>>>>>>>>>halo should i go on

GARRYTH

Uhh... yeah, please do. :|

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[QUOTE="goddamn_"]Microsoft by far. None of Sony games nowhere near Forza, Halo, Ninja Gaiden, ConkerGARRYTH

lol ninja gainden is not first party we would of never gotten ngs.

gt,motorstorm,wipeout,twisted metal>>>>>>>>>>forza should i go on.

god of war, shadow of the collossis,ico>>>>>>.ninja gaiden should i go on.

rachet and clank,jak,sly cooper>>>>>>>>conker should i go on

resistance,killzone,solcom>>>>>>>>>halo should i go on

see it not one game it is that mutiple games is always better than one franchise in each gene

*Head Explodes*

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[QUOTE="goddamn_"]Microsoft by far. None of Sony games nowhere near Forza, Halo, Ninja Gaiden, ConkerGARRYTH

lol ninja gainden is not first party we would of never gotten ngs.

gt,motorstorm,wipeout,twisted metal>>>>>>>>>>forza should i go on.

god of war, shadow of the collossis,ico>>>>>>.ninja gaiden should i go on.

rachet and clank,jak,sly cooper>>>>>>>>conker should i go on

resistance,killzone,solcom>>>>>>>>>halo should i go on

see it not one game it is that mutiple games is always better than one franchise in each gene

That post is EPIC fanboyism.

Ninja Gaiden is first party. It wasn't previously but it is now; Ninja Gaiden 2 is published by Microsoft. Microsoft aren't going to release it on the playstation or the wii, trust me.

Motorstorm and twisted metal > Forza? Can somebody please sig that? :lol:

Shadow of the colossus compared to Ninja Gaiden? How are they even close to the same thing? :lol:

Resistance > Halo? :lol:

Honestly, if someone is looking to make a sig, that post is full of awesome material.

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[QUOTE="GARRYTH"]

[QUOTE="goddamn_"]Microsoft by far. None of Sony games nowhere near Forza, Halo, Ninja Gaiden, ConkerNinja-Hippo

lol ninja gainden is not first party we would of never gotten ngs.

gt,motorstorm,wipeout,twisted metal>>>>>>>>>>forza should i go on.

god of war, shadow of the collossis,ico>>>>>>.ninja gaiden should i go on.

rachet and clank,jak,sly cooper>>>>>>>>conker should i go on

resistance,killzone,solcom>>>>>>>>>halo should i go on

see it not one game it is that mutiple games is always better than one franchise in each gene

That post is EPIC fanboyism.

Ninja Gaiden is first party. It wasn't previously but it is now; Ninja Gaiden 2 is published by Microsoft. Microsoft aren't going to release it on the playstation or the wii, trust me.

Motorstorm and twisted metal > Forza? Can somebody please sig that? :lol:

Shadow of the colossus compared to Ninja Gaiden? How are they even close to the same thing? :lol:

Resistance > Halo? :lol:

Honestly, if someone is looking to make a sig, that post is full of awesome material.

they might be considered first party games, but they aren't made by first party developers and that's what this thread is about

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#37 Ninja-Hippo
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do any of you no what first party developers are?

NG is not a 1st party game

FF is not

MGS4 is not

jimbobtom

Please dont be pedantic. That's pointing out the obvious; neither sony nor microsoft make any serious number (if any these days) of games. They rely on a number of developers who they have exclusive publishing deals with. They are practically a substitute for first-party games. Call it second party if you will.

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#38 GARRYTH
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[QUOTE="Lord_Pro"]

Gran Truismo franchise> Forza
Final fantasy franchise > Halo
God Of War franchise > Ninja Gaiden
Jak and Daxter franchise > Conker

POSTED OWNED :lol:

goddamn_

LOL. Finished GT 4 at 10%, compare to Forza it's trash. Never saw the end of GoW 1/2 cause after NG it feels pretty low and I didn't finish both. Played FF 12 demo - forgot about it.

fine then shadow of the collossiss,rachet and clank, folklore,warhawk,twisted metal,god of war,ico,solcom,gt,motorstorm,wipeout,uncharted,jak,genji,ect. there are so many first party games sony has made. there all 7.5 and above for over three dacades sony has brought so many great games more than microsoft can dream of.
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they might be considered first party games, but they aren't made by first party developers and that's what this thread is about

AdrianWerner

Nor are any of the games he mentioned. Sony or Microsoft. Honestly people; arguing "that's not first party" when it's a developer owned by the company, or with exclusive publishing deals, is just pedantic. They are first party games. They are games you will only ever see on that console, published by that company. If bungie think the term "second party" is rediculous, i sure as well do to.

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#40 Not-A-Stalker
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Ninja Gaiden is first party. It wasn't previously but it is now; Ninja Gaiden 2 is published by Microsoft. Microsoft aren't going to release it on the playstation or the wii, trust me.

Ninja-Hippo

Actually, Ninja Gaiden would be considered "2nd party" (I'm not even sure if thats a real term, but I know it's just not first party :P ). A first party game is when the publisher owns the development studio and publishes the game. Microsoft IS publishing Ninja Gaiden 2, but they do not own Team Ninja.

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#41 tmntPunchout
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do any of you no what first party developers are?

NG is not a 1st party game

FF is not

MGS4 is not

jimbobtom

Yeah, thats what I was thinking too, so I guess they are also including 2nd party devs.

Going by first party, SCEA, SCEJ, and their 1st party devs are so much better than 'microsoft entertainment'? I have no idea what MS's 1st party dev. is.

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There's a Ninja Gaiden game coming out for the DS, there's a game on the PS3, etc. How is the franchise exclusive? :?

Hexagon_777

Because previously those games were not owned by microsoft. They were published by microsoft, eidos, whatever company wanted to publish the game.

Microsoft has now bought the rights to Ninja Gaiden 2; it is a microsoft game studios published game.

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#43 goddamn_
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there are so many first party games sony has made. GARRYTH

How many are good?

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#44 AdrianWerner
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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

they might be considered first party games, but they aren't made by first party developers and that's what this thread is about

Ninja-Hippo

Nor are any of the games he mentioned. Sony or Microsoft. Honestly people; arguing "that's not first party" when it's a developer owned by the company, or with exclusive publishing deals, is just pedantic. They are first party games. They are games you will only ever see on that console, published by that company. If bungie think the term "second party" is rediculous, i sure as well do to.

It's not pedantic. Only first party devs are ensuring constant stream of new games. Exclivity deals with third party devs end sooner or later and devs leave. Tons of devs that made games that were published by Microsoft are no longer working with MS

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#45 Hexagon_777
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Gotten from here.

I believe that this is an indication of which company has better 1st party developers.

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#46 Ninja-Hippo
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]

Ninja Gaiden is first party. It wasn't previously but it is now; Ninja Gaiden 2 is published by Microsoft. Microsoft aren't going to release it on the playstation or the wii, trust me.

Not-A-Stalker

Actually, Ninja Gaiden would be considered "2nd party" (I'm not even sure if thats a real term, but I know it's just not first party :P ). A first party game is when the publisher owns the development studio and publishes the game. Microsoft IS publishing Ninja Gaiden 2, but they do not own Team Ninja.

That's exactly what i was saying earlier. Microsoft do not make games themselves. Sony make very few games themselves. The two prefer to strike up partnerships with developers, or buy them outright, so that their games are published by Sony or Microsoft, exclusively on those systems. They own the rights to those games. To say "that doesn't count as first party" is just rediculous because it's exactly the same thing. Like i said; bungie laughed at the term "second party developer". If developers think that doesn't exist i dont see why we're arguing about it here.
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#47 Hexagon_777
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[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

Ninja Gaiden is exclusive to Microsoft now?

goddamn_

Yes

There's a Ninja Gaiden game coming out for the DS, there's a game on the PS3, etc. How is the franchise exclusive to Microsoft? How can it be used against God of War, in other words?

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#48 GARRYTH
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we all now that sony has more first party than microsoft and nin put together.

we all now that sony has brought so many great games in the last 3 gens that micosoft can only dream of.

naughty dog, insominac,ico ect. there so many.

games like twisted metal,hot shot golf,nba,nbl,ico,shadow of collosis,rachet and clank,jak,uncharted,resistance,gt,motorstorm,god of war, man it is hard to remember so many first party games sony has brought to us. this is why im trying to figure out why people left sony when only 30% has made a ps 3 game.

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#49 goddamn_
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There's a Ninja Gaiden game coming out for the DS, there's a game on the PS3, etc. How is the franchise exclusive to Microsoft? How can it be used against God of War, in other words?

Hexagon_777

If NG was on PS2 I would agree with you

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#50 tmntPunchout
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[QUOTE="GARRYTH"]there are so many first party games sony has made. goddamn_

How many are good?

ICO, SOTC, GoW, GT series, Socom?. There are actually quite a few but these are all that I can remember atm (not 100% sure but I think these are made by SCE).