Sony: PS Vita is Primarily a Gaming Device

http://botchweed.com/game-news/sony-ps-vita-is-primarily-a-gaming-device/

This is a very true statement. The PS Vita is mostly concerned for gaming by which Sony is marketing it by to which the PSP did when it first launched. This is a very great example to all the haters that think the Vita is not gonna have games and think they're going the PSP route. Bottom line is that Sony has learned and took notes with not only the hardware, but finally the software for their handheld market.

http://botchweed.com/game-news/sony-ps-vita-is-primarily-a-gaming-device/

This is a very true statement. The PS Vita is mostly concerned for gaming by which Sony is marketing it by to which the PSP did when it first launched. This is a very great example to all the haters that think the Vita is not gonna have games and think they're going the PSP route. Bottom line is that Sony has learned and took notes with not only the hardware, but finally the software for their handheld market.

e_stone001

It kinda undermines your statement that you say they're saying the same thing about the Vita they did about the PSP when it first launched, but that you think its going to dispell haters who think the Vita is going to have no games like the PSP route. If anything, you're making it easier to compare the two.

We'll see a ton of cool Vita support in 2012, and in 2013, but the big question is how bad (if at all) willl the software drop be when the PS4 comes out in 2013 or so and Sony puts all its attention to it?

[QUOTE="e_stone001"]

http://botchweed.com/game-news/sony-ps-vita-is-primarily-a-gaming-device/

This is a very true statement. The PS Vita is mostly concerned for gaming by which Sony is marketing it by to which the PSP did when it first launched. This is a very great example to all the haters that think the Vita is not gonna have games and think they're going the PSP route. Bottom line is that Sony has learned and took notes with not only the hardware, but finally the software for their handheld market.

bonesawisready5

It kinda undermines your statement that you say they're saying the same thing about the Vita they did about the PSP when it first launched, but that you think its going to dispell haters who think the Vita is going to have no games like the PSP route. If anything, you're making it easier to compare the two.

We'll see a ton of cool Vita support in 2012, and in 2013, but the big question is how bad (if at all) willl the software drop be when the PS4 comes out in 2013 or so and Sony puts all its attention to it?

While Sony didn't put much attention to the PsP for 1st party support there are quite a lot of good games on the Psp so even if they're not making 1st party games it still has great games for it :|

[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"]

[QUOTE="e_stone001"]

http://botchweed.com/game-news/sony-ps-vita-is-primarily-a-gaming-device/

This is a very true statement. The PS Vita is mostly concerned for gaming by which Sony is marketing it by to which the PSP did when it first launched. This is a very great example to all the haters that think the Vita is not gonna have games and think they're going the PSP route. Bottom line is that Sony has learned and took notes with not only the hardware, but finally the software for their handheld market.

Joedgabe

It kinda undermines your statement that you say they're saying the same thing about the Vita they did about the PSP when it first launched, but that you think its going to dispell haters who think the Vita is going to have no games like the PSP route. If anything, you're making it easier to compare the two.

We'll see a ton of cool Vita support in 2012, and in 2013, but the big question is how bad (if at all) willl the software drop be when the PS4 comes out in 2013 or so and Sony puts all its attention to it?

While Sony didn't put much attention to the PsP for 1st party support there are quite a lot of good games on the Psp so even if they're not making 1st party games it still has great games for it :|

Let's hope that continues should a similar situation happen to the Vita.

[QUOTE="e_stone001"]

http://botchweed.com/game-news/sony-ps-vita-is-primarily-a-gaming-device/

This is a very true statement. The PS Vita is mostly concerned for gaming by which Sony is marketing it by to which the PSP did when it first launched. This is a very great example to all the haters that think the Vita is not gonna have games and think they're going the PSP route. Bottom line is that Sony has learned and took notes with not only the hardware, but finally the software for their handheld market.

bonesawisready5

It kinda undermines your statement that you say they're saying the same thing about the Vita they did about the PSP when it first launched, but that you think its going to dispell haters who think the Vita is going to have no games like the PSP route. If anything, you're making it easier to compare the two.

We'll see a ton of cool Vita support in 2012, and in 2013, but the big question is how bad (if at all) willl the software drop be when the PS4 comes out in 2013 or so and Sony puts all its attention to it?

[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"]

[QUOTE="e_stone001"]

http://botchweed.com/game-news/sony-ps-vita-is-primarily-a-gaming-device/

This is a very true statement. The PS Vita is mostly concerned for gaming by which Sony is marketing it by to which the PSP did when it first launched. This is a very great example to all the haters that think the Vita is not gonna have games and think they're going the PSP route. Bottom line is that Sony has learned and took notes with not only the hardware, but finally the software for their handheld market.

e_stone001

It kinda undermines your statement that you say they're saying the same thing about the Vita they did about the PSP when it first launched, but that you think its going to dispell haters who think the Vita is going to have no games like the PSP route. If anything, you're making it easier to compare the two.

We'll see a ton of cool Vita support in 2012, and in 2013, but the big question is how bad (if at all) willl the software drop be when the PS4 comes out in 2013 or so and Sony puts all its attention to it?

No, I was referring to the PSP software drought that occurred (in a lot of gamers minds) in mid-2008 and through, well for a long time.

At one point, Sony switched directions and shifted a lot of direction to the PS3.

I doubt that would happen in 2012 even if the PS4 somehow released in 2012, But a year or so after the PS4 is out, and if Sony needs software to sell units, I wonder if they will ignore the Vita for a bit to help the PS4. I hope not for everyone's sake. I still have nightmares about seeing Secret Agent Clank as the only PSP game I was interested in past June 2008.

Also, you said sales. I am talking about first party support from Sony.

It kinda undermines your statement that you say they're saying the same thing about the Vita they did about the PSP when it first launched, but that you think its going to dispell haters who think the Vita is going to have no games like the PSP route. If anything, you're making it easier to compare the two.

We'll see a ton of cool Vita support in 2012, and in 2013, but the big question is how bad (if at all) willl the software drop be when the PS4 comes out in 2013 or so and Sony puts all its attention to it?

bonesawisready5

The PS4 IS already under development. Aguably, the evidence of a PS4 being engineered has been around for at lest a year and half (whe Sony bought an entire CELL fab).

SCE WWS is currently expanding by buying more studios and wisely rotating all their studious, having them work on cross-IP's (i.e. Sony Bend working on UCGA). They also have exclusivity to certain studios (aka second parties). All of this is to have the PS Vita and PS3 have the games they have now.

[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"]

It kinda undermines your statement that you say they're saying the same thing about the Vita they did about the PSP when it first launched, but that you think its going to dispell haters who think the Vita is going to have no games like the PSP route. If anything, you're making it easier to compare the two.

We'll see a ton of cool Vita support in 2012, and in 2013, but the big question is how bad (if at all) willl the software drop be when the PS4 comes out in 2013 or so and Sony puts all its attention to it?

wakefulness

The PS4 IS already under development. Aguably, the evidence of a PS4 being engineered has been around for at lest a year and half (whe Sony bought an entire CELL fab).

SCE WWS is currently expanding by buying more studios and wisely rotating all their studious, having them work on cross-IP's (i.e. Sony Bend working on UCGA). They also have exclusivity to certain studios (aka second parties). All of this is to have the PS Vita and PS3 have the games they have now.

Let me clarify like I did in my last post.

I'm referring to AFTER it releases. Like how there was a drought in 2008/2009 in PSP releases from Sony because in 2006/2007 they shifted focus to PS3 which that focus didn't show up until games finished development in 2008 and so on.

So, what I meant that was once the PS4 releases, be it 2012, 2013, 2014, I'd be fearful of Sony supporting it more than the Vita in the first few years after the PS4 launches. (Example: The PS4 releases Autumn 2013, then I'd be fearful that in Spring-Fall 2015 there may be a lack of Sony Vita games)

I hope this doesn't happen, and I would think Sony have learned that lesson.

what? it's not a supercomputer that makes pc obsolete? lol, who was it that forbade sony exects to speak? whoever it was give the guy a raise!

right. as if anyone needed clarification (i hope?)Firebird-5

Everyone who thinks smartphones are the death of the Vita and 3DS and big budget retail handheld games think so. I wouldn't agree with them.

So if it is primaily a gaming device... why is Sony not including some sort of memory to save games?

What a suprise :roll:

Yeah, and my iPhone is primarily a phone.

You don't say :P

[QUOTE="wakefulness"]

[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"]

It kinda undermines your statement that you say they're saying the same thing about the Vita they did about the PSP when it first launched, but that you think its going to dispell haters who think the Vita is going to have no games like the PSP route. If anything, you're making it easier to compare the two.

We'll see a ton of cool Vita support in 2012, and in 2013, but the big question is how bad (if at all) willl the software drop be when the PS4 comes out in 2013 or so and Sony puts all its attention to it?

bonesawisready5

The PS4 IS already under development. Aguably, the evidence of a PS4 being engineered has been around for at lest a year and half (whe Sony bought an entire CELL fab).

SCE WWS is currently expanding by buying more studios and wisely rotating all their studious, having them work on cross-IP's (i.e. Sony Bend working on UCGA). They also have exclusivity to certain studios (aka second parties). All of this is to have the PS Vita and PS3 have the games they have now.

Let me clarify like I did in my last post.

I'm referring to AFTER it releases. Like how there was a drought in 2008/2009 in PSP releases from Sony because in 2006/2007 they shifted focus to PS3 which that focus didn't show up until games finished development in 2008 and so on.

So, what I meant that was once the PS4 releases, be it 2012, 2013, 2014, I'd be fearful of Sony supporting it more than the Vita in the first few years after the PS4 launches. (Example: The PS4 releases Autumn 2013, then I'd be fearful that in Spring-Fall 2015 there may be a lack of Sony Vita games)

I hope this doesn't happen, and I would think Sony have learned that lesson.

Yet Nintendo brings Wii U year after 3DS annoucment and they dont have a problem, buh 3DS doing better then before Wii U ;p

Also as i remeber 2009 was golden age of PSP in terms of games that been annouced back then and i rember people complaing why they relese games on PSP insted of PS3, specially on SW ;]

I understand when Nintendo says this, but when the Vita's features are almost all social features (i.e.facebook), its really hard to agree with that statement. It seems like it is trying to compete with iOS devices. The Wii is primarily a gaming device; it can't do anything but play games. The PS3/360 are not. Neither the 3DS or Vita is.bbkkristian

Arent social features are thing that Xbox Live is so much praced? why not bring that to PSN. Btw so far i seen only on social thing that are 3rd party, this simple twitter app:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQOlEmQNRnA

[QUOTE="Firebird-5"]right. as if anyone needed clarification (i hope?)bonesawisready5

Everyone who thinks smartphones are the death of the Vita and 3DS and big budget retail handheld games think so. I wouldn't agree with them.

[QUOTE="bbkkristian"]I understand when Nintendo says this, but when the Vita's features are almost all social features (i.e.facebook), its really hard to agree with that statement. It seems like it is trying to compete with iOS devices. The Wii is primarily a gaming device; it can't do anything but play games. The PS3/360 are not. Neither the 3DS or Vita is.ShadowriverUB

Arent social features are thing that Xbox Live is so much praced? why not bring that to PSN. Btw so far i seen only on social thing that are 3rd party, this simple twitter app:

[QUOTE="ShadowriverUB"]

[QUOTE="bbkkristian"]I understand when Nintendo says this, but when the Vita's features are almost all social features (i.e.facebook), its really hard to agree with that statement. It seems like it is trying to compete with iOS devices. The Wii is primarily a gaming device; it can't do anything but play games. The PS3/360 are not. Neither the 3DS or Vita is.bbkkristian

Arent social features are thing that Xbox Live is so much praced? why not bring that to PSN. Btw so far i seen only on social thing that are 3rd party, this simple twitter app:

Im talking here about PSN inner social features, since as i said i really dont see 3rd party other then that twitter up... but i now i find that they mentioned plans for it on GamesCom conference ^^'

I don't consider Facebook and Twitter as part of PSN... nether Live, it's a seperate service that device simply access and they can link with other services and expand there functionality, not what Microsoft trying to push to brains of Live users saying that "Facebook coming to Live".... Facebook is not part of any service

[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"]

[QUOTE="wakefulness"]

The PS4 IS already under development. Aguably, the evidence of a PS4 being engineered has been around for at lest a year and half (whe Sony bought an entire CELL fab).

SCE WWS is currently expanding by buying more studios and wisely rotating all their studious, having them work on cross-IP's (i.e. Sony Bend working on UCGA). They also have exclusivity to certain studios (aka second parties). All of this is to have the PS Vita and PS3 have the games they have now.

ShadowriverUB

Let me clarify like I did in my last post.

I'm referring to AFTER it releases. Like how there was a drought in 2008/2009 in PSP releases from Sony because in 2006/2007 they shifted focus to PS3 which that focus didn't show up until games finished development in 2008 and so on.

So, what I meant that was once the PS4 releases, be it 2012, 2013, 2014, I'd be fearful of Sony supporting it more than the Vita in the first few years after the PS4 launches. (Example: The PS4 releases Autumn 2013, then I'd be fearful that in Spring-Fall 2015 there may be a lack of Sony Vita games)

I hope this doesn't happen, and I would think Sony have learned that lesson.

Yet Nintendo brings Wii U year after 3DS annoucment and they dont have a problem, buh 3DS doing better then before Wii U ;p

Also as i remeber 2009 was golden age of PSP in terms of games that been annouced back then and i rember people complaing why they relese games on PSP insted of PS3, specially on SW ;]

I have no idea what you mean by your first statement. I suppose you're saying the same could happen to Nintendo and you're right it could

But the Wii and DS both had good first party support most years IMO, and in most critics/consumers opinions

The PSP did have some good games in 2008 and 2009, but critically it didn't fare well and a lot of people were upset with just being offered more Ratchet and Socom after the inspiring Patapon in 2008. I know I felt left out from the lack of western games on the PSP in that time, and I know critics/other consumers didn't respond well either or else PSP wouldn't have sold 1.6 million units less (nearly 50% less) in 2009 than it did in 2008 in North America

Shocking.

*snicker*

No one at Sony believes their own press statements, I bet.

Shocking.

VensInferno

[QUOTE="wakefulness"]

[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"]

It kinda undermines your statement that you say they're saying the same thing about the Vita they did about the PSP when it first launched, but that you think its going to dispell haters who think the Vita is going to have no games like the PSP route. If anything, you're making it easier to compare the two.

We'll see a ton of cool Vita support in 2012, and in 2013, but the big question is how bad (if at all) willl the software drop be when the PS4 comes out in 2013 or so and Sony puts all its attention to it?

bonesawisready5

The PS4 IS already under development. Aguably, the evidence of a PS4 being engineered has been around for at lest a year and half (whe Sony bought an entire CELL fab).

SCE WWS is currently expanding by buying more studios and wisely rotating all their studious, having them work on cross-IP's (i.e. Sony Bend working on UCGA). They also have exclusivity to certain studios (aka second parties). All of this is to have the PS Vita and PS3 have the games they have now.

Let me clarify like I did in my last post.

I'm referring to AFTER it releases. Like how there was a drought in 2008/2009 in PSP releases from Sony because in 2006/2007 they shifted focus to PS3 which that focus didn't show up until games finished development in 2008 and so on.

So, what I meant that was once the PS4 releases, be it 2012, 2013, 2014, I'd be fearful of Sony supporting it more than the Vita in the first few years after the PS4 launches. (Example: The PS4 releases Autumn 2013, then I'd be fearful that in Spring-Fall 2015 there may be a lack of Sony Vita games)

I hope this doesn't happen, and I would think Sony have learned that lesson.

SCE WWS have bought and are shifting all their studios to roadmap tons of games for the PS Vita. KillZone has not even been officially unveiled and that game will be spear headed by SCE Cambridge. That is not years down the road but, eventually (eg after Killzone) there will be God of War titles, Infamous titles and many other old and new IP's that Sony will bring to the PS Vita. Those games will all come from established studios, newly purchased studios (i.e. Double 11), exclusive second parties (i.e. Quasy Games, Housemarque, etc), and they will all be working together to make the best out of the PS Vita.

People do not realize that the PS Vita was actually built (primarly) from the input of SCE WWS studios input and that it was one of the first devices engineered from the direct input of developers since the PS1.

[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"]

[QUOTE="wakefulness"]

The PS4 IS already under development. Aguably, the evidence of a PS4 being engineered has been around for at lest a year and half (whe Sony bought an entire CELL fab).

SCE WWS is currently expanding by buying more studios and wisely rotating all their studious, having them work on cross-IP's (i.e. Sony Bend working on UCGA). They also have exclusivity to certain studios (aka second parties). All of this is to have the PS Vita and PS3 have the games they have now.

wakefulness

Let me clarify like I did in my last post.

I'm referring to AFTER it releases. Like how there was a drought in 2008/2009 in PSP releases from Sony because in 2006/2007 they shifted focus to PS3 which that focus didn't show up until games finished development in 2008 and so on.

So, what I meant that was once the PS4 releases, be it 2012, 2013, 2014, I'd be fearful of Sony supporting it more than the Vita in the first few years after the PS4 launches. (Example: The PS4 releases Autumn 2013, then I'd be fearful that in Spring-Fall 2015 there may be a lack of Sony Vita games)

I hope this doesn't happen, and I would think Sony have learned that lesson.

SCE WWS have bought and are shifting all their studios to roadmap tons of games for the PS Vita. KillZone has not even been officially unveiled and that game will be spear headed by SCE Cambridge. That is not years down the road but, eventually (eg after Killzone) there will be God of War titles, Infamous titles and many other old and new IP's that Sony will bring to the PS Vita. Those games will all come from established studios, newly purchased studios (i.e. Double 11), exclusive second parties (i.e. Quasy Games, Housemarque, etc), and they will all be working together to make the best out of the PS Vita.

People do not realize that the PS Vita was actually built (primarly) from the input of SCE WWS studios input and that it was one of the first devices engineered from the direct input of developers since the PS1.

Look i'm not saying it's gonna happen or that I want it too.

I'm just fearful of it, and I'll wait and see. I get it that there is significant attention on Vita development right now, but all of that can change in an instant if the PS4 launches in 2013 and doesn't take off right away. Maybe not. I don't know. I didn't enjoy the drought of PSP games after Patapon in 2008, so I sold mine and really haven't looked back since all the games I wanted (wasn't really interested in the Japanese games) ended up on PS2. (Peace Walker almost made me buy a green PSP just for it last year, thank god I waited) I just don't want to get burned again.

Personally, none of those IPs you mentioned interest me much.

They sure dont act like it. I seen way more articles focusing on the social media and other non gaming functions.PSP107

This is a classic Sony move. When they know somthing is gonna go wrong they start to backtrack.

>"We're taking handheld out of the gaming ghetto" -PSP launch

>"We're not competing with the DS" -PSP post launch

Same thing is going to happen now, but this time Vita is against the iOS and the 3DS. They obviously can't match the iOS so they go for what they think is an easier route (from a PR prospective) and go against the 3DS. But the thing is they're gonna fail.....again.

[QUOTE="wakefulness"]

[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"]

Let me clarify like I did in my last post.

I'm referring to AFTER it releases. Like how there was a drought in 2008/2009 in PSP releases from Sony because in 2006/2007 they shifted focus to PS3 which that focus didn't show up until games finished development in 2008 and so on.

So, what I meant that was once the PS4 releases, be it 2012, 2013, 2014, I'd be fearful of Sony supporting it more than the Vita in the first few years after the PS4 launches. (Example: The PS4 releases Autumn 2013, then I'd be fearful that in Spring-Fall 2015 there may be a lack of Sony Vita games)

I hope this doesn't happen, and I would think Sony have learned that lesson.

bonesawisready5

SCE WWS have bought and are shifting all their studios to roadmap tons of games for the PS Vita. KillZone has not even been officially unveiled and that game will be spear headed by SCE Cambridge. That is not years down the road but, eventually (eg after Killzone) there will be God of War titles, Infamous titles and many other old and new IP's that Sony will bring to the PS Vita. Those games will all come from established studios, newly purchased studios (i.e. Double 11), exclusive second parties (i.e. Quasy Games, Housemarque, etc), and they will all be working together to make the best out of the PS Vita.

People do not realize that the PS Vita was actually built (primarly) from the input of SCE WWS studios input and that it was one of the first devices engineered from the direct input of developers since the PS1.

Look i'm not saying it's gonna happen or that I want it too.

I'm just fearful of it, and I'll wait and see. I get it that there is significant attention on Vita development right now, but all of that can change in an instant if the PS4 launches in 2013 and doesn't take off right away. Maybe not. I don't know. I didn't enjoy the drought of PSP games after Patapon in 2008, so I sold mine and really haven't looked back since all the games I wanted (wasn't really interested in the Japanese games) ended up on PS2. (Peace Walker almost made me buy a green PSP just for it last year, thank god I waited) I just don't want to get burned again.

Personally, none of those IPs you mentioned interest me much.

If you do not know, than why would you have such fear? Are you just geniunly a pessimist in these matters and have nothing to really back you? If so, you could just go out and write that rather than just writing "look, I do not want this to happen it's just that I think . . .".

Personally, I know many of the IP's that you like are probably not in my top list. The audience and craft are what matters.

[QUOTE="ShadowriverUB"]

[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"]

Let me clarify like I did in my last post.

I'm referring to AFTER it releases. Like how there was a drought in 2008/2009 in PSP releases from Sony because in 2006/2007 they shifted focus to PS3 which that focus didn't show up until games finished development in 2008 and so on.

So, what I meant that was once the PS4 releases, be it 2012, 2013, 2014, I'd be fearful of Sony supporting it more than the Vita in the first few years after the PS4 launches. (Example: The PS4 releases Autumn 2013, then I'd be fearful that in Spring-Fall 2015 there may be a lack of Sony Vita games)

I hope this doesn't happen, and I would think Sony have learned that lesson.

bonesawisready5

Yet Nintendo brings Wii U year after 3DS annoucment and they dont have a problem, buh 3DS doing better then before Wii U ;p

Also as i remeber 2009 was golden age of PSP in terms of games that been annouced back then and i rember people complaing why they relese games on PSP insted of PS3, specially on SW ;]

I have no idea what you mean by your first statement. I suppose you're saying the same could happen to Nintendo and you're right it could

But the Wii and DS both had good first party support most years IMO, and in most critics/consumers opinions

The PSP did have some good games in 2008 and 2009, but critically it didn't fare well and a lot of people were upset with just being offered more Ratchet and Socom after the inspiring Patapon in 2008. I know I felt left out from the lack of western games on the PSP in that time, and I know critics/other consumers didn't respond well either or else PSP wouldn't have sold 1.6 million units less (nearly 50% less) in 2009 than it did in 2008 in North America

No what im saying if Nintendo can pull it of then Sony can do it too ;]

And about games on PSP, back then MGS:PW was annouced, Dissidia was coming out, and sequel to Valkiria Chronicles. DS and 3DS is also running on Japan with majority of japan yet it sells ;]

[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"]

[QUOTE="wakefulness"]

SCE WWS have bought and are shifting all their studios to roadmap tons of games for the PS Vita. KillZone has not even been officially unveiled and that game will be spear headed by SCE Cambridge. That is not years down the road but, eventually (eg after Killzone) there will be God of War titles, Infamous titles and many other old and new IP's that Sony will bring to the PS Vita. Those games will all come from established studios, newly purchased studios (i.e. Double 11), exclusive second parties (i.e. Quasy Games, Housemarque, etc), and they will all be working together to make the best out of the PS Vita.

People do not realize that the PS Vita was actually built (primarly) from the input of SCE WWS studios input and that it was one of the first devices engineered from the direct input of developers since the PS1.

wakefulness

Look i'm not saying it's gonna happen or that I want it too.

I'm just fearful of it, and I'll wait and see. I get it that there is significant attention on Vita development right now, but all of that can change in an instant if the PS4 launches in 2013 and doesn't take off right away. Maybe not. I don't know. I didn't enjoy the drought of PSP games after Patapon in 2008, so I sold mine and really haven't looked back since all the games I wanted (wasn't really interested in the Japanese games) ended up on PS2. (Peace Walker almost made me buy a green PSP just for it last year, thank god I waited) I just don't want to get burned again.

Personally, none of those IPs you mentioned interest me much.

If you do not know, than why would you have such fear? Are you just geniunly a pessimist in these matters and have nothing to really back you? If so, you could just go out and write that rather than just writing "look, I do not want this to happen it's just that I think . . .".

Personally, I know many of the IP's that you like are probably not in my top list. The audience and craft are what matters.

[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"]

[QUOTE="ShadowriverUB"]

Yet Nintendo brings Wii U year after 3DS annoucment and they dont have a problem, buh 3DS doing better then before Wii U ;p

Also as i remeber 2009 was golden age of PSP in terms of games that been annouced back then and i rember people complaing why they relese games on PSP insted of PS3, specially on SW ;]

ShadowriverUB

I have no idea what you mean by your first statement. I suppose you're saying the same could happen to Nintendo and you're right it could

But the Wii and DS both had good first party support most years IMO, and in most critics/consumers opinions

The PSP did have some good games in 2008 and 2009, but critically it didn't fare well and a lot of people were upset with just being offered more Ratchet and Socom after the inspiring Patapon in 2008. I know I felt left out from the lack of western games on the PSP in that time, and I know critics/other consumers didn't respond well either or else PSP wouldn't have sold 1.6 million units less (nearly 50% less) in 2009 than it did in 2008 in North America

No what im saying if Nintendo can pull it of then Sony can do it too ;]

And about games on PSP, back then MGS:PW was annouced, Dissidia was coming out, and sequel to Valkiria Chronicles. DS and 3DS is also running on Japan with majority of japan yet it sells ;]

[QUOTE="ShadowriverUB"]

[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"]

I have no idea what you mean by your first statement. I suppose you're saying the same could happen to Nintendo and you're right it could

But the Wii and DS both had good first party support most years IMO, and in most critics/consumers opinions

The PSP did have some good games in 2008 and 2009, but critically it didn't fare well and a lot of people were upset with just being offered more Ratchet and Socom after the inspiring Patapon in 2008. I know I felt left out from the lack of western games on the PSP in that time, and I know critics/other consumers didn't respond well either or else PSP wouldn't have sold 1.6 million units less (nearly 50% less) in 2009 than it did in 2008 in North America

bonesawisready5

No what im saying if Nintendo can pull it of then Sony can do it too ;]

And about games on PSP, back then MGS:PW was annouced, Dissidia was coming out, and sequel to Valkiria Chronicles. DS and 3DS is also running on Japan with majority of japan yet it sells ;]

You misunderstood me by "DS and 3DS is also running on Japan" i mean games (sorry for little miss speling here), it's really hard for me to point notable western DS/3DS games.

Sony are doing good overcharging for their stuff..

[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"][QUOTE="ShadowriverUB"]

No what im saying if Nintendo can pull it of then Sony can do it too ;]

And about games on PSP, back then MGS:PW was annouced, Dissidia was coming out, and sequel to Valkiria Chronicles. DS and 3DS is also running on Japan with majority of japan yet it sells ;]

ShadowriverUB

You misunderstood me by "DS and 3DS is also running on Japan" i mean games (sorry for little miss speling here), it's really hard for me to point notable western DS/3DS games.

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[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"]

Look i'm not saying it's gonna happen or that I want it too.

I'm just fearful of it, and I'll wait and see. I get it that there is significant attention on Vita development right now, but all of that can change in an instant if the PS4 launches in 2013 and doesn't take off right away. Maybe not. I don't know. I didn't enjoy the drought of PSP games after Patapon in 2008, so I sold mine and really haven't looked back since all the games I wanted (wasn't really interested in the Japanese games) ended up on PS2. (Peace Walker almost made me buy a green PSP just for it last year, thank god I waited) I just don't want to get burned again.

Personally, none of those IPs you mentioned interest me much.

bonesawisready5

If you do not know, than why would you have such fear? Are you just geniunly a pessimist in these matters and have nothing to really back you? If so, you could just go out and write that rather than just writing "look, I do not want this to happen it's just that I think . . .".

Personally, I know many of the IP's that you like are probably not in my top list. The audience and craft are what matters.

The thing is companies have historically made a product or service, made a mistake somewhere, and than made that concept better. I do own a PSP so, I know from first hand experience many of the things that happened. I already knew that there where not a lot of titles at the PSP launch but, again, the PS Vita will have a lot of different titles with a lot of variety and they will be digitally distributed so, that is quite nice for really looking into titles rather than buying things based on box art. That is already a step up from the PSP and how SCE handeled everything related to the PSP games.

Sony clearly have an IPA (international product assessment) rule that opposes that and even than people will tar things under one whole brush just if the IP is on a console and/or if it is in a genre that is on console, if it uses dual analog sticks, etc. People form the opinion that if something has a link to the console, it is just like the console experience all the time. Most of the times, they are wrong. Monster Hunter Portable is the perfect example of a title that was on console and became very successful in the PSP because it spawned multiple series in the franchise and people supported to the point where it is now on the 3DS(and it will no doubt do well on that platform).

The PS Vita is not just another PSP. From the certification process of titles, the supporting first party studios, the way SCE has built the hardware, the (PS Suite) apps store, digital distribution of all games, physical copies of games, etc. are what makes it a legitimate gaming product. Even the PSP was a legit product in that it could do music, had certain Sony cervices that played TV streams, etc but, it did not have half the effort Sony has ALREADY madefor the PS Vita.

Many of the things you have commented that you have reservations about are mostly unfounded because you apply the same scenarios that went on with the PSP to the PS Vita when there are clearly different foundations and the supporting roadmap for the games related part of the PS Vita are much more clearly defined. Alleviating that unfounded fear (you have) is as simple as seeing the list of supporting developers when the PS Vita was first announced, the way SCE have demonstrated PS Vita (during all its largest public events) and, how they are committing a lot of time, effort and money on it. It is hard to ignore the steps SCE have made to correct their mistakes with the PSP games and how much more enjoyable they are making the PS Vita as a gaming machine.

I understand when Nintendo says this, but when the Vita's features are almost all social features (i.e.facebook), its really hard to agree with that statement. It seems like it is trying to compete with iOS devices. The Wii is primarily a gaming device; it can't do anything but play games. The PS3/360 are not. Neither the 3DS or Vita is.bbkkristian

The devices you listed can do those things but, that is more a sign of the technology being up to par with doing those things. Uncharted: Golden Abyss will be a game on the PS Vita and people will no doubt use facebook but, anyone that believes that subtracts time or possible money from anything is being ignorant. Facebook is something many people use regardless and people will play video games. A device like the PS Vita is simply using its technology (and with premission of FB to allow API use) so it can use FB.

If the PS Vita was competing more with mobile OS, it would show in that Sony would be using Android OS and sacrificing quality of games by running on a low-level API. Which, is not at all good for multi-threading or doing all the things the PS Vita hardware is really capable of doing thanks to SN systems hardwork.

*snicker*

No one at Sony believes their own press statements, I bet.

mmmwksil

I am not big intopsychology so, I would not really know. Or care, really. Just as long as they are doing what they need to do to make the PS Vita a great product. So far, there is no real reason to be bothered by the decisions being made because there is always a good reason to many of the decisions.

Delaying the PS Vita to 2012 for US and EU seemed like a bad move given the holiday would primarly be seeing 3DS's and mobiles/tabs sell but, the PS Vita list of launch titles is very much appealing to gamers. Obviously, people such as your self will state that you do not like it (you will argue under some vague and shallow premise, no doubt) but, there are different types of games, they are well crafted around the PS Vita and, there are lot of them.

[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"][QUOTE="wakefulness"]

If you do not know, than why would you have such fear? Are you just geniunly a pessimist in these matters and have nothing to really back you? If so, you could just go out and write that rather than just writing "look, I do not want this to happen it's just that I think . . .".

Personally, I know many of the IP's that you like are probably not in my top list. The audience and craft are what matters.

wakefulness

The thing is companies have historically made a product or service, made a mistake somewhere, and than made that concept better. I do own a PSP so, I know from first hand experience many of the things that happened. I already knew that there where not a lot of titles at the PSP launch but, again, the PS Vita will have a lot of different titles with a lot of variety and they will be digitally distributed so, that is quite nice for really looking into titles rather than buying things based on box art. That is already a step up from the PSP and how SCE handeled everything related to the PSP games.

Sony clearly have an IPA (international product assessment) rule that opposes that and even than people will tar things under one whole brush just if the IP is on a console and/or if it is in a genre that is on console, if it uses dual analog sticks, etc. People form the opinion that if something has a link to the console, it is just like the console experience all the time. Most of the times, they are wrong. Monster Hunter Portable is the perfect example of a title that was on console and became very successful in the PSP because it spawned multiple series in the franchise and people supported to the point where it is now on the 3DS(and it will no doubt do well on that platform).

The PS Vita is not just another PSP. From the certification process of titles, the supporting first party studios, the way SCE has built the hardware, the (PS Suite) apps store, digital distribution of all games, physical copies of games, etc. are what makes it a legitimate gaming product. Even the PSP was a legit product in that it could do music, had certain Sony cervices that played TV streams, etc but, it did not have half the effort Sony has ALREADY madefor the PS Vita.

Many of the things you have commented that you have reservations about are mostly unfounded because you apply the same scenarios that went on with the PSP to the PS Vita when there are clearly different foundations and the supporting roadmap for the games related part of the PS Vita are much more clearly defined. Alleviating that unfounded fear (you have) is as simple as seeing the list of supporting developers when the PS Vita was first announced, the way SCE have demonstrated PS Vita (during all its largest public events) and, how they are committing a lot of time, effort and money on it. It is hard to ignore the steps SCE have made to correct their mistakes with the PSP games and how much more enjoyable they are making the PS Vita as a gaming machine.

[QUOTE="mmmwksil"]

*snicker*

No one at Sony believes their own press statements, I bet.

wakefulness

I am not big intopsychology so, I would not really know. Or care, really. Just as long as they are doing what they need to do to make the PS Vita a great product. So far, there is no real reason to be bothered by the decisions being made because there is always a good reason to many of the decisions.

Delaying the PS Vita to 2012 for US and EU seemed like a bad move given the holiday would primarly be seeing 3DS's and mobiles/tabs sell but, the PS Vita list of launch titles is very much appealing to gamers. Obviously, people such as your self will state that you do not like it (you will argue under some vague and shallow premise, no doubt) but, there are different types of games, they are well crafted around the PS Vita and, there are lot of them.

I am not big intopsychology so, I would not really know. Or care, really. Just as long as they are doing what they need to do to make the PS Vita a great product. So far, there is no real reason to be bothered by the decisions being made because there is always a good reason to many of the decisions.

Delaying the PS Vita to 2012 for US and EU seemed like a bad move given the holiday would primarly be seeing 3DS's and mobiles/tabs sell but, the PS Vita list of launch titles is very much appealing to gamers. Obviously, people such as your self will state that you do not like it (you will argue under some vague and shallow premise, no doubt) but, there are different types of games, they are well crafted around the PS Vita and, there are lot of them.

wakefulness

It's a good thing you're not big on psychology, otherwise you'd be able to read my thoughts, or something. :roll:

Vita will sell, because if there's one thing you can always count on its cows lining up to get milked. I will wait for a price drop, because Sony's little toy isn't worth the steep price tag.

[QUOTE="wakefulness"]

[QUOTE="mmmwksil"]

*snicker*

No one at Sony believes their own press statements, I bet.

bonesawisready5

I am not big intopsychology so, I would not really know. Or care, really. Just as long as they are doing what they need to do to make the PS Vita a great product. So far, there is no real reason to be bothered by the decisions being made because there is always a good reason to many of the decisions.

Delaying the PS Vita to 2012 for US and EU seemed like a bad move given the holiday would primarly be seeing 3DS's and mobiles/tabs sell but, the PS Vita list of launch titles is very much appealing to gamers. Obviously, people such as your self will state that you do not like it (you will argue under some vague and shallow premise, no doubt) but, there are different types of games, they are well crafted around the PS Vita and, there are lot of them.

Not really. It is more of a case of me being a newbie to the whole gaming consumer scene. I will be willing to dedicate a bit more to video games and related stuff on the PS Vita. There are excepetions to what I will spend but, my overall goal is to buy and play as many games as possible on the PS Vita. Generally, I know people will be specfic but, that always happens.

[QUOTE="wakefulness"]

I am not big intopsychology so, I would not really know. Or care, really. Just as long as they are doing what they need to do to make the PS Vita a great product. So far, there is no real reason to be bothered by the decisions being made because there is always a good reason to many of the decisions.

Delaying the PS Vita to 2012 for US and EU seemed like a bad move given the holiday would primarly be seeing 3DS's and mobiles/tabs sell but, the PS Vita list of launch titles is very much appealing to gamers. Obviously, people such as your self will state that you do not like it (you will argue under some vague and shallow premise, no doubt) but, there are different types of games, they are well crafted around the PS Vita and, there are lot of them.

mmmwksil

It's a good thing you're not big on psychology, otherwise you'd be able to read my thoughts, or something. :roll:

Vita will sell, because if there's one thing you can always count on its cows lining up to get milked. I will wait for a price drop, because Sony's little toy isn't worth the steep price tag.

Same thing with everyother company in the histroy of everything. People are weird. You and me included.

Although, you are more highly strung whenever something related to Sony is brought up. I suppose that is good marketting on Sony's behalf that it really works you up. I see you in EVERY Sony related topic I click (here in SW). :p

Same thing with everyother company in the histroy of everything. People are weird. You and me included.

Although, you are more highly strung whenever something related to Sony is brought up. I suppose that is good marketting on Sony's behalf that it really works you up. I see you in EVERY Sony related topic I click (here in SW). :p

wakefulness

Of course you do. Cows are the easiest bunch of fanboys to rile up.

One bad word about Sony or the Vita and they start mooing. It's too funny to pass up. :lol:

[QUOTE="wakefulness"]

Same thing with everyother company in the histroy of everything. People are weird. You and me included.

Although, you are more highly strung whenever something related to Sony is brought up. I suppose that is good marketting on Sony's behalf that it really works you up. I see you in EVERY Sony related topic I click (here in SW). :p

mmmwksil

Of course you do. Cows are the easiest bunch of fanboys to rile up.

One bad word about Sony or the Vita and they start mooing. It's too funny to pass up. :lol:

Well, you are not one for grammer or evocative thinking but, I noticed your anime-ish avatar. ^_^

Well, you are not one for grammer or evocative thinking but, I noticed your anime-ish avatar. ^_^

wakefulness

I'm here to have fun. I do make sure to have competent grammar (proper way to spell it).

And I'm glad you noticed it. Much harder to recognize you, you're nothing more but a faceless user. Your posting isn't very memorable, either. ;)

[QUOTE="wakefulness"]

Well, you are not one for grammer or evocative thinking but, I noticed your anime-ish avatar. ^_^

mmmwksil

I'm here to have fun. I do make sure to have competent grammar (proper way to spell it).

And I'm glad you noticed it. Much harder to recognize you, you're nothing more but a faceless user. Your posting isn't very memorable, either. ;)

Haha! This turned out to be much more of an attack on online personas than I would have ever anticipated.

Also, when I wrote that you share nothing of useful information in a gaming forum, that was on the basis that I only see your posts in topics I click. Your history could show something different but, I have no desire to mess around with the minutia of changing avatars and checking on peoples history. That is not usually how I use forums as a tool for communication.