Sony PS4-Destiny Partnership for the entire generation?

So as MS said that they can't even advertise Destiny, since Sony has exclusive right to Destiny commercialization, it seems like that Sony & Bungie as pretty broad partnership deal,

now my question is:

is Sony-Bungie Destiny Partnership valid for the entire generation or lifetime of the franchise? or just for one game? can M$ with their giant stinky butt load of money outbid Sony for the sequel?

One game and money is money, it doesn't matter who is paying. Also, lol @-Damien- thread.

It's not a Sony/Bungie deal, it is a Sony/Activision deal. It's only for one game, but In sure Sony will probably want the marketing rights for the sequel as well whether that happens remains to be seen.

any source link? ....also lol your post

Probably. SOny keeps Destiny while MS has that fps with ai in its multiplayer

you're asking about the details of a deal that isn't open to public knowledge?

You have source for anything else? We as a public don't know what is going on between Activision, Sony and MS. For all we know this exclusive contract may stop as soon as the game is released. Logically one would assume that its just for this game, in the same fashion that Titanfall is looking to become a multiplat franchise.

Destiny is a multiplat game that Sony is using to drive sales for the PS4 which is no different than what MS did last gen with COD. In fact I'd go as far to say its exactly the same as what MS did last gen. Exclusive DLC, exclusive playtime, first dibs on everything etc.

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There isnt gonna be a sequel, they said the game was gonna live on MMO style for 10 years and numerous expansion packs are gonna be released for it

@Nengo_Flow: No, theres gonna be sequels. I'll find the article later, basically it was an activision rep talking about the future of destiny and that the sequels coming out will feature character continuity and will delve deeper into the destiny universe.

link?

I've read articles from devs that say the opposite.. I wouldn't be surprised if Activision wants sequels, and Bungie wants expansions. Sequels bring in more money with a full $60 release, but what is the point? All they have to do is add planets to expand the universe. They are going to do the DLC anyway - why not just do expansions instead and keep it all one cohesive world.

It's also possible the sequel is backwards compatible (ala little big planet). But something tells me if it ends up being sequels, it's just Activisions way of squeezing more money out of it.

There will come a point where they will either run out of ideas or the idea's they do have no longer work within the current framework. It all depends on how far the game goes, given the high turn over rate that console games seem to have I don't think it will last 3 years before another one is ready to ship.

Well the 500GB standard hard drive also allows for massive patching and expansion. At some point last gen would get left behind but who would argue against that, especially if they offer free upgrade(like they are already doing) when they chose to do it..

If they ran out of ideas for the first iteration, they wouldn't have any ideas for a sequel either.. This isn't a Halo where they you have a set campaign for each iteration. It's entirely wide open and flexible

Hard drive space has nowt to do with it. I'm talking about the actual game. There will come a point where what they want to do with it can't be done in the current framework the game operates in.

Example? I can't think of a single thing that would not be possible sans graphical effects

I can't for sure as I'm not a game designer but one would assume that would be case. If it wasn't we'd have no new iterations of anything.

Anything is possible.... but yeah none of us know the details of the contract/agreement.

I believe that's simply the convention. There have also been many sequels which were the same as the previous with a new coat of paint, and a new campaign - stuff that is entirely downloadable or patchable. We even had the Call of Duty situation where they reused a cut scene and just threw a different skin on it.

I don't believe many games at all last gen evolved to where the 3rd or 4th iteration could not have been made on the first iterations engine, other than the graphics side of things. So while i'm not doubting they may hit a wall with what they want to do - it's definitely possible they could carry on a single game throughout the entire generation. On PC, games can undergo major overhauls through patches, and the reason is because of the hard drive. After all, World of Warcraft lasted 10 years so far, and this could be that for the consoles.

Oh I agree that some games are no more than a cut paste job but some games like GTA do need a new dev cycle to make use of new assets. As for WoW I believe the reason it stayed the same was because the vast number of its subs are running on old gear. However if we look at another MMO like Guild Wars, they still keep the old games up but they started work on a sequel running on a new engine built from the ground up.

http://www.joystiq.com/2013/02/17/destiny-in-the-stars-exploring-bungies-10-year-plan/

There ya go.

Actually is probably worse than what MS did because the CoD exclusive stuff was only a month long for MS. The Destiny PS4 exclusive content is a year I believe.

Still not as cool as fish AI. Sony flopped.

Bungie will never be owned by another console maker again. If they wanted to do that, they would have renegotiated with MS. You dumb Cows seem to be mislead in what actually happened between Bungie and MS. There is no rift between the two. Bungie's contract ran out as did their commitment to the Halo franchise. MS wanted them to continue to make Halo games and Bungie wanted to make something else...Destiny! Sony negotiated a SMALL, MINISCULE deal with Activition to allow for a timed exclusivity on some content. This content is exclusive to Sony consoles for one year and because it in no way affects the game and because Destiny is not cross platform playable doesn't allow for any sort of competitive advantage for PS4 players, there is really nothing of note here!

Saying dumb things like "Sony keeps Destiny and MS gets Titanfall" just makes you look like a lame fanboy. Both franchises are third party and both will continue to be such! Get over yourself and understand that the PS4 is NOT the end all be all of gaming consoles. There are MILLIONS of X1 owners that will be playing and enjoying the Destiny franchise for months and years to come as it grows and matures! ACCEPT IT!!!

@-Damien-: It's only for one game I'm sure and probably only for a certain amount of time. Obviously Activision could advertise the game if they wanted to as well. It's probably only until the end of the year. Why anyone would want to advertise it after it's been released for several months is beyond me though. I'm sure Microsoft with have their own exclusive bundles with games like CoD:AW and The Division somewhere down the road.

I am more annoyed by sony's way of doing business than ms now.

Please god I hope not.

It is hilarious to see Sony rubbing the game in Microsoft's face, but Destiny is absolute garbage.

Sony is notorious for making bad business deals. They payed their last bit of lunch money and Kaz's bonus to get...............exclusive advertising.

Oh lol. This can't last more than 2014 calendar year. IMO which is fact.

There is far too much misinformation here.

The bungie partnership seems to be for the destiny franchise extending this generation.

Activision wanted MS to have one of their powerhouses and Sony to have the other.

Jim Ryan has talked about this multiple times about how the deal is essentially what MS has for the COD franchise.

Sum: Jim Ryan already stated that they have a long term partnership with Bungie like MS has with COD. It seems to extend the entire generation.

it's common sense, eventually they will find they cannot Expand the game anymore because of hardware/engine limtiations, Making a game bigger is not going to improve it's shelf life if you want to keep people engaged that long you have to add more gameplay features as well and eventually the hardware just won't be able to handle more features being added due to hardware limitations.

He's also talking about the games engine, they will only be able to do so much before the engine itself won't be able to cope or the engine may not even be able to handle what they want to do with the game.

At that point a sequal will appear with new Gameplay features on anew Engine that can handle it.

Remeber ,it's not just about hardware limitations it's about the limitations of the engine used for the game.

'Destiny looks likely to spawn several sequels, and it's for this reason that your characters are cross-generational.

That's according to Bungie engineer Roger Wolfson, who told Digital Trends that the developer was keen to enable you to keep playing as your initial character right the way across the franchise. That's not to say newcomers won't be welcome, however.'

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2014/07/21/destiny-will-likely-have-sequels-and-your-character-will-carry-over

Straight from the mouth of a bungie engineer no less.

your article is a year old,lol

I truly hope that Bungie makes Destiny's character building follow the style of MMO's in which your character continues to level with each new game. There can be a real attachment formed there. Noobies to the game would have the same oppurtunities to level and loot just like in a game like WoW. Raids will be based on character level.

I am beginning to think that MS recent love for EA hasn't set all that well with Activision..hahaha

Well one thing is for sure MSis very butthurt and bitter about the deal,maybe they know gamestop pre sales are going all that hot for the xbox one compare to the PS4..

Proof?

You have insider knowledge on how MS thinks right?

I always wondered though, how does an a company or entity that has no emotions whatsoever become 'butthurt' or 'bitter'

What happened to the money they made from selling buildings?