Sony: "Natal and Wii are going to have trouble" in 2010

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#1 Squall18
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#2 skinny_man_69
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:o Them be fightin' words!

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Nice to see Sony hasn't lost all of its chutzpah. :roll:

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#4 Miroku32
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"This generation doesn't start until we say so" - Sony representative. I think they believe motion sensing controls will begin when they release those wands.
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#5 OreoMilkshake
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I expected them to say they'll fail and the others will be great.
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Shouldn't they be worried about their $5 Billion loss right now? Shouldn't they also be worried about how the PS3 is going to be in the black off of each PS3 sold so that they won't end up pulling the PS3 out of the market like Sega did with the Saturn & Dreamcast & what MS did with the original X-Box?

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In terms of matching the pswand when it comes to party, sports and shooter games... that's nothing really offensive :?
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#8 DoomZaW
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I wonder how loud mouthed they will be when both sphere and natal fails

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#9 PBSnipes
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I for one totally expected Sony to say something along the lines of:

"We're ****ed. Our ball-on-a-stick is just a Wii rip-off. And have you seen Natal? It doesn't even need a controller! How cool is that!?!? Man, I hope I get a 360 for Christmas..."

:roll:

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[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]

I for one totally expected Sony to say something along the lines of:

"We're ****ed. Our ball-on-a-stick is just a Wii rip-off. And have you seen Natal? It doesn't even need a controller! How cool is that!?!? Man, I hope I get a 360 for Christmas..."

:roll:

Lol yeah that sounds exactly like company representatives :P
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#11 Trmpt
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From all of the crazed swarms of attacking customers?

I agree Sony...I agree.

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i'll believe it when sony starts to fully engineer their products, instead of very sloppily throwing things together
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#13 Zero5000X
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Well the Wii motion controls have proven to be successful already even though it's the least advanced of the three. I think Natal will do okay and Ball-on-stick will do pretty bad. I don't like this move towards motion controls. It's nice as a side thing but it shouldn't become the focus of the console.
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Shouldn't they be worried about their $5 Billion loss right now? Shouldn't they also be worried about how the PS3 is going to be in the black off of each PS3 sold so that they won't end up pulling the PS3 out of the market like Sega did with the Saturn & Dreamcast & what MS did with the original X-Box?

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Sony, MS and Nintendo don't make the bulk of their money or anything close to it off of Hardware. They make their money off of Software which is why it's been a standard practice to sell consoles at a loss. Do you honestly think the tiny profit MS is making off of Xbox 360 hardware means much or even matches how much they lost selling it for a loss for the couple of years. Of course not, but when you factor in Live fees, DLC fees, accessories and software royalties now you see where they get their money. The same goes for Sony with PSN content, accessories, software royalties and now thanks to the PS3, Blu Ray royalties. Don't worry about Sony, they have a lot more experience at making a profit over time in the gaming industry then you or MS.
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I expected them to say they'll fail and the others will be great.OreoMilkshake
Same. What's with Sony these days? :| :P
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Natal, Waggle, and Sony Gem or whatever its called all suck. Keep them off my consoles.
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motion sensing ill stay away from, its one of the reasons i dont play my wii *and the fact most wii games are trash*

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[QUOTE="Javy03"][QUOTE="garland51"]

Shouldn't they be worried about their $5 Billion loss right now? Shouldn't they also be worried about how the PS3 is going to be in the black off of each PS3 sold so that they won't end up pulling the PS3 out of the market like Sega did with the Saturn & Dreamcast & what MS did with the original X-Box?

Sony, MS and Nintendo don't make the bulk of their money or anything close to it off of Hardware. They make their money off of Software which is why it's been a standard practice to sell consoles at a loss. Do you honestly think the tiny profit MS is making off of Xbox 360 hardware means much or even matches how much they lost selling it for a loss for the couple of years. Of course not, but when you factor in Live fees, DLC fees, accessories and software royalties now you see where they get their money. The same goes for Sony with PSN content, accessories, software royalties and now thanks to the PS3, Blu Ray royalties. Don't worry about Sony, they have a lot more experience at making a profit over time in the gaming industry then you or MS.

You realise that the losses for the PS3 include software right? Its unlikely Sony will ever see a profit from the PS3.
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i'll believe it when sony starts to fully engineer their products, instead of very sloppily throwing things togethertatertotsjon

huh? what was sloppily thrown together? are you talking about the ps3 with its 2400 baud modem, 8 megs of hard drive space and punch card reader?

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Ah nice to see the old Sony :)
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#21 lhughey
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motion sensing ill stay away from, its one of the reasons i dont play my wii *and the fact most wii games are trash*

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I disagree. The reason why most Wii games are trash is because the developers aren't taking the games seriously. They just want to get something out to market quickly.
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Don't use such strong words. It'll only make you look weak, Sony.:|

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The Wii failed in the software department

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#25 Burning-Sludge
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The Wii failed in the software department

HermitQ6600

The Xbox 360 failed in the hardware department and the PS3 failed in the value department. All failures are in the process of being corrected.

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#26 Shinobi120
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[QUOTE="garland51"]

Shouldn't they be worried about their $5 Billion loss right now? Shouldn't they also be worried about how the PS3 is going to be in the black off of each PS3 sold so that they won't end up pulling the PS3 out of the market like Sega did with the Saturn & Dreamcast & what MS did with the original X-Box?

Javy03

Sony, MS and Nintendo don't make the bulk of their money or anything close to it off of Hardware. They make their money off of Software which is why it's been a standard practice to sell consoles at a loss. Do you honestly think the tiny profit MS is making off of Xbox 360 hardware means much or even matches how much they lost selling it for a loss for the couple of years. Of course not, but when you factor in Live fees, DLC fees, accessories and software royalties now you see where they get their money. The same goes for Sony with PSN content, accessories, software royalties and now thanks to the PS3, Blu Ray royalties.

Don't worry about Sony, they have a lot more experience at making a profit over time in the gaming industry then you or MS.

Really? Even with PSP & PS2 system sales, as well as PSP, PS2, & PS3 games, accessories, & downloads combined, it's nowhere near enough to cover that amount of money. Plus they don't exactly make a whole lot of money off of each Blu-Ray sold. MS does, since each Blu-Ray disc has their VC-1 codec on each of them.

As for MS, they've been making plenty of money off of the 360's since late '06. Not only that, they also make money off of Live, games, accessories, & Windows, & of course, off of each Blu-Ray disc sold. Plus Sony doesn't own Blu-Ray, nor do they get a lot of money from it. Plus neither MS, Nintendo, or Sony makes back the full $50-$60 off of each game being sold. Face it, Sony can't continue to lose money off of their gaming division forever. Not to mention that MS has TONS of more billions than Sony does.

You realise that the losses for the PS3 include software right? Its unlikely Sony will ever see a profit from the PS3.blue_hazy_basic

Just what I thought as well.

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This sounds so familiar. So Sony to do something like that.

Joking aside: I hope they make it great!
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#28 Trmpt
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[QUOTE="HermitQ6600"]

The Wii failed in the software department

Burning-Sludge

The Xbox 360 failed in the hardware department and the PS3 failed in the value department. All failures are in the process of being corrected.

Both of them have already been corrected. :|
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[QUOTE="Burning-Sludge"]

[QUOTE="HermitQ6600"]

The Wii failed in the software department

Trmpt

The Xbox 360 failed in the hardware department and the PS3 failed in the value department. All failures are in the process of being corrected.

All of them have already been corrected. :|

Fixed!

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#30 TheEroica  Moderator
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Someone save this article to bring up when Sony decides to copy Microsoft and Natal like they're doing to Nintendo currantly...

I see no reason why, with smart developing, that as long as the hardware lives up to what MS has shown, Natal will be the next wave of gaming.

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:lol: Sony couldn't put such greater fail then that, there again they can't say anything different :P.
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#32 BattleTurtles
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I wonder how loud mouthed they will be when both sphere and natal fails

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When Nintendo doesn't make core gamers happy, they admit that they failed. When Sony manages to lose 5 billion dollars in 3 years, they brag about possibly making a profit in 2011. Ok...
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[QUOTE="tatertotsjon"]i'll believe it when sony starts to fully engineer their products, instead of very sloppily throwing things togetherz4twenny

huh? what was sloppily thrown together? are you talking about the ps3 with its 2400 baud modem, 8 megs of hard drive space and punch card reader?

im talking about how it has the hardware to do more then the 360, but since no one over there seems to be able to write an os for it. its limited by its own software. its nowhere near close to a 360 as a multitasker
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#34 ActicEdge
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As far as the wand is concerned I'll just say it. Sony sucks at pushing its products. This thing is going to need a big miracle to catch on.

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#35 Trmpt
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[QUOTE="Trmpt"][QUOTE="Burning-Sludge"]

The Xbox 360 failed in the hardware department and the PS3 failed in the value department. All failures are in the process of being corrected.

Burning-Sludge

All of them have already been corrected. :|

Fixed!

It's a good thing you caught my mistake. I wouldn't want to get a 'F' in "Bull @%!$" class.
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#36 Greyfeld
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For everybody bashing motion controls... Motion control is the first step to full VR home console gaming.
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[QUOTE="HermitQ6600"]

The Wii failed in the software department

Burning-Sludge

The Xbox 360 failed in the hardware department and the PS3 failed in the value department. All failures are in the process of being corrected.

do u mind if i put this quote as my sig? lol

i think sony is getting a bit overconfident. i remember these 2 companies (MS and SONY) siad that they dont think motion controls is the way to go and that its is a gimmick. NOW they randommly decide to implement full out motion control? hah:lol: