Sony: "We should Probably Develop Less Games"

http://playstationlifestyle.net/2012/02/10/sony-we-should-probably-develop-less-games/

Lots of exclusives but not making much money from it I'm guessing. What can Sony do to turn this around?

Well, to be honest the only good exclusive last year from Sony was Uncharted 3 and for what I heard it is quite inferior to Uncharted 2. Resistance and Killzone are meh franchises.

Gotta admit I don't live in the US nor in the developed countries but a marketing campaign does wonders. Dunno if Sony did that for all their exclusives.

Sounds like business as usual. If they aren't selling and making a profit large enough to justify the cost, cut it.

Wouldn't be a huge loss.

http://playstationlifestyle.net/2012/02/10/sony-we-should-probably-develop-less-games/

Lots of exclusives but not making much money from it I'm guessing. What can Sony do to turn this around?

jimmypsn

Copy what MS does, make less but top quality games and not waste power in mediocre shooters all the time

This is true and I always wondered why they don't do this. They make too many games and many sell pretty mediocre. Best to stop making games that don't sell well enough, even if they do make an accounting profit on them, and take those resources and put them to games that actually do sell well.

It is better to make a few games that sell very well than make a bunch of games that have mixed sales.

I agree. I can't afford to buy all these exclusives, even with the money left over from spending on Wii/360 exclusives, because there aren't any.

Like the article said, get better marketing.tagyhag

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http://playstationlifestyle.net/2012/02/10/sony-we-should-probably-develop-less-games/

Lots of exclusives but not making much money from it I'm guessing. What can Sony do to turn this around?

loosingENDS

Copy what MS does, make less but top quality games and not waste power in mediocre shooters all the time

I'm guessing everyone is starting to realize what MS was doing was sound business strategy after all huh? Funny how things work out.

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[QUOTE="jimmypsn"]

http://playstationlifestyle.net/2012/02/10/sony-we-should-probably-develop-less-games/

Lots of exclusives but not making much money from it I'm guessing. What can Sony do to turn this around?

ShadowDeathX

Copy what MS does, make less but top quality games and not waste power in mediocre shooters all the time

At least Crackdown had some gameplay involved, unlike games like Uncharted

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[QUOTE="jimmypsn"]

http://playstationlifestyle.net/2012/02/10/sony-we-should-probably-develop-less-games/

Lots of exclusives but not making much money from it I'm guessing. What can Sony do to turn this around?

ShadowDeathX

Copy what MS does, make less but top quality games and not waste power in mediocre shooters all the time

I don't understand why Sony would want to go from making several high profile high scoring titles a year, to the MS standard of one with several poop exclusives thrown in.

So this thread doesn't appeal to me since I prefer having the option of playing various great exclusives instead of one a year along with my multiplats. I mean, I like to pick for myself, its why I'm a Manticore.

From the article.

With titles like The Last Guardian - which sadly is unlikely to sell well – being stuck in development for years, and games like Resistance 3failing to pass a million sales, Sony's plan to release a huge number of quality games doesn't seem to be working for them. And, when you factor in the fact that Microsoft has managed to top the NPD six months running with the help of a fewer number or far higher marketed products, it's understandable why the cash-strapped company might want to release fewer games. Unfortunately, while a drop in Sony-produced content might be good for their bank balance, it certainly isn't good for gamers – titles like Heavy Rain and Flower would never have been funded by a different publisher.

With the PlayStation 4′s release drawing ever closer, it'll be interesting to see which route Sony decides to adopt – tons of games, little marketing or a few games with tons of marketing. I know which one I'd prefer.

Are you sure your title is right? I thought you were talking about MS, I mean there is no way you made your title and quote of context or just pulled it out of your ass right?

I mean with all the new exclusives coming out for PS3 like Twisted Metal, Starhawk, The Last of Us (GOTY when it comes out),and more coming this E3. Sony doesn't care about exclusives at all, no sir.

Xbox has Halo 4 and umm....ya....Halo 4, well there is Witcher (kinda) and it might come to PS3 later anyway, oh you guys get those COD map packs 30 days early...so ya, Xbox is where it's at for games yo! MS, they sure know how to treat their fanbase!

Well they need to start being more creative again and not copy off mainstream games like Gears and Halo... It's obvious what uncharted, resistance, killzone franchises are trying to appeal to here. Clearly it's not working. PS1 and PS2 had so much variety in exclusives and first party games which just doesn't exist with the PS3.

Are you sure your title is right? I thought you were talking about MS, I mean there is no way you made your title and quote of context or just pulled it out of your ass right?

I mean with all the new exclusives coming out for PS3 like Twisted Metal, Starhawk, The Last of Us (GOTY when it comes out),and more coming this E3. Sony doesn't care about exclusives at all, no sir.

Xbox has Halo 4 and umm....ya....Halo 4, well there is Witcher (kinda) and it might come to PS3 later anyway, oh you guys get those COD map packs 30 days early...so ya, Xbox is where it's at for games yo! MS, they sure know how to treat their fanbase!

ShadowMoses900

Whatever dude. You have an MO here. It's that you're always butthurt.

Are you sure your title is right? I thought you were talking about MS, I mean there is no way you made your title and quote of context or just pulled it out of your ass right?

I mean with all the new exclusives coming out for PS3 like Twisted Metal, Starhawk, The Last of Us (GOTY when it comes out),and more coming this E3. Sony doesn't care about exclusives at all, no sir.

Xbox has Halo 4 and umm....ya....Halo 4, well there is Witcher (kinda) and it might come to PS3 later anyway, oh you guys get those COD map packs 30 days early...so ya, Xbox is where it's at for games yo! MS, they sure know how to treat their fanbase!

ShadowMoses900

They should do what MS does and let everyone else do everything.

Are you sure your title is right? I thought you were talking about MS, I mean there is no way you made your title and quote of context or just pulled it out of your ass right?

I mean with all the new exclusives coming out for PS3 like Twisted Metal, Starhawk, The Last of Us (GOTY when it comes out),and more coming this E3. Sony doesn't care about exclusives at all, no sir.

Xbox has Halo 4 and umm....ya....Halo 4, well there is Witcher (kinda) and it might come to PS3 later anyway, oh you guys get those COD map packs 30 days early...so ya, Xbox is where it's at for games yo! MS, they sure know how to treat their fanbase!

ShadowMoses900

halo 4 is all you need mems_1224

It's all you can get.

I think what cows fail to realize is that in the real world Sony exclusives aren't worth anything. No one really cares for them. I'm speaking for the real world of course.

I think what cows fail to realize is that in the real world Sony exclusives aren't worth anything. No one really cares for them. I'm speaking for the real world of course.

jimmypsn

That's because the real world only enjoys casual games. Microsoft only knows how to throw casual games onto their console.

Sony knows what gamers want, and that's why we get core games.

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I think what cows fail to realize is that in the real world Sony exclusives aren't worth anything. No one really cares for them. I'm speaking for the real world of course.

ChubbyGuy40

That's because the real world only enjoys casual games. Microsoft only knows how to throw casual games onto their console.

Sony knows what gamers want, and that's why we get core games.

Not true at all. You can make 100 hardcore exclusives games. And gamers and the mainstream are going to gravitate towards a handful of them. MS is lucky to have a few of those phenomenon type of games. Gears, Forza and Halo. They are arguably the best in their class as well.

I guess MS agenda to change the focus of the industry is working, rejoice lemmings, less games. You morons seem to be so happy about this :roll: why the hell are you guys even into gaming.

If sony adapts MS strategy, I quit.

Not true at all. You can make 100 hardcore exclusives games. And gamers and the mainstream are going to gravitate towards a handful of them. MS is lucky to have a few of those phenomenon type of games. Gears, Forza and Halo. They are arguably the best in their class as well.

jimmypsn

Hardcore games are Counter Strike, Starcraft, Quake, ect. Mainstream will not go towards those games, as proven by the Wii. They want simple games that anyone can jump into. They enjoy their casual software like Kinect, Call of Duty, Mario Kart, Halo, New Super Mario Bros, Hello Kitty Island Adventure, and more.

Halo and Gears? Best in class for shooters? Get the hell outta here.

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]halo 4 is all you need ChubbyGuy40

It's all you can get.

[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"][QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

Copy what MS does, make less but top quality games and not waste power in mediocre shooters all the time

SPYDER0416

I don't understand why Sony would want to go from making several high profile high scoring titles a year, to the MS standard of one with several poop exclusives thrown in.

So this thread doesn't appeal to me since I prefer having the option of playing various great exclusives instead of one a year along with my multiplats. I mean, I like to pick for myself, its why I'm a Manticore.

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[QUOTE="mems_1224"]halo 4 is all you need mems_1224

It's all you can get.

A bad lineup is always better than no lineup at all.

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

It's all you can get.

ChubbyGuy40

A bad lineup is always better than no lineup at all.

I guess MS agenda to change the focus of the industry is working, rejoice lemmings, less games. You morons seem to be so happy about this :roll: why the hell are you guys even into gaming.

If sony adapts MS strategy, I quit.

casharmy

So many morons in System Wars. It's like people around here actually want these companies to make less games and waste more money on marketing and crap. Next someone will quote me and say "THEY NEED TO MAKE MONEY!"

When you buy a car do you ask them to keep the CD player so the company can make money? What's wrong you kids? You noobs acting like business majors need to get a reality check. Your consumers, start acting like it.

I'm guessing everyone is starting to realize what MS was doing was sound business strategy after all huh? Funny how things work out.

jimmypsn

http://playstationlifestyle.net/2012/02/10/sony-we-should-probably-develop-less-games/

Lots of exclusives but not making much money from it I'm guessing. What can Sony do to turn this around?

jimmypsn

From the article : "Despite being one of the best publishers in the industry, and managing to bring out critical hit after critical hit, Sony has failed to produce huge chart-topping games like Gears of War and Halo. Outside of Gran Turismo, Sony's IPs have yet to hit the big time, partially due to poor marketing – something that Sony's Worldwide Studios President has taken notice of..."

Most of the sales enthusiasts should be happy! Seriously, this has been known in SW for a longtime, although I'm not sure many really know what the ramifications truly mean.

This means Sony can easily spent three times as much on marketing a tiny few quality titles, and spend a whole lot less on making many high quality titles with little marketing. In the end, if gamers aren't buying these high quality titles, then they don't deserve them. These games don't deserve to exist.

I've said it before in System Wars.

Less games for gamers, sure, but hey, those sales enthusiasts will be excited! :P

Kinect for instance had over half a billion dollars spent on advertising alone.

I hope you guys enjoyed the output of High QUALITY games we got (check metacritic if you doubt that), because that looks to be slowing down. Sony isn't THQ or Zynga, they weren't in the business of pumping out mediocre titles....but whatever.

I told SW years ago if these trends continued, companies would have no choice but to adapt to the climate...it's a shame.

The end result is we will be getting less high quality games in the world, but we will have way more exposure on the few games getting released. Gamers shouldn't be happy about less high quality games, but it's a hard realization that this is what the industry has come down to.

Many titles today spent twice as much (or MORE $$$) on merely marketing the title than they do actually crafting it, ACTIVISION does this aplenty. They aren't the only ones, but success is success.

This doesn't mean it's great for gamers, it just means Sony has to do what Sony has to do.

sure, but one great game is better than 10 mediocre onesmems_1224

Not really. You'll likely find 2 great ones in that stack of 10 mediocres, because you were too lazy to give the game a chance the first time around.

Like the saying always goes. I rather have one awesome game, then 10 mediocre ones but this doesn't really apply to MS thought because they have more games and more exclusives on 360 than the PS3. So they have the best of both worlds.

I think what cows fail to realize is that in the real world Sony exclusives aren't worth anything. No one really cares for them. I'm speaking for the real world of course.

jimmypsn

So many morons in System Wars. It's like people around here actually want these companies to make less games and waste more money on marketing and crap. Next someone will quote me and say "THEY NEED TO MAKE MONEY!"

When you buy a car do you ask them to keep the CD player so the company can make money? What's wrong you kids? You noobs acting like business majors need to get a reality check. Your consumers, start acting like it.

Eddie-Vedder

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http://playstationlifestyle.net/2012/02/10/sony-we-should-probably-develop-less-games/

Lots of exclusives but not making much money from it I'm guessing. What can Sony do to turn this around?

SolidTy

Most of the sales enthusiasts should be happy!

This means Sony can easily spent three times as much on marketing a few titles, and spend less on making many titles with little marketing.

Less games for gamers, sure, but hey, those sales enthusiasts will be excited! :P

Kinect for instance had over half a billion dollars spent on advertising alone.

I hope you guys enjoyed the output of High QUALITY games we got (check metacritic if you doubt that), because that looks to be slowing down. Sony isn't THQ or Zynga, they weren't in the business of pumping out mediocre titles....but whatever.

I told SW years ago if these trends continued, companies would have no choice but to adapt to the climate...it's a shame.

This is exactly what I expected to happen

So many morons in System Wars. It's like people around here actually want these companies to make less games and waste more money on marketing and crap. Next someone will quote me and say "THEY NEED TO MAKE MONEY!"

When you buy a car do you ask them to keep the CD player so the company can make money? What's wrong you kids? You noobs acting like business majors need to get a reality check. Your consumers, start acting like it.

Eddie-Vedder

Lems want MS to survive and thrive in the real world. Cows want Sony to hemmorhage money and die but at least they got to have free online right?

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I think what cows fail to realize is that in the real world Sony exclusives aren't worth anything. No one really cares for them. I'm speaking for the real world of course.

_Cadbury_

Less and more generic software awaits. Sure sounds like an improvement to me.

[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"]

So many morons in System Wars. It's like people around here actually want these companies to make less games and waste more money on marketing and crap. Next someone will quote me and say "THEY NEED TO MAKE MONEY!"

When you buy a car do you ask them to keep the CD player so the company can make money? What's wrong you kids? You noobs acting like business majors need to get a reality check. Your consumers, start acting like it.

AdmiralBison

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]sure, but one great game is better than 10 mediocre onesChubbyGuy40

Not really. You'll likely find 2 great ones in that stack of 10 mediocres, because you were too lazy to give the game a chance the first time around.

I think what cows fail to realize is that in the real world Sony exclusives aren't worth anything. No one really cares for them. I'm speaking for the real world of course.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Are you sure your title is right? I thought you were talking about MS, I mean there is no way you made your title and quote of context or just pulled it out of your ass right?

I mean with all the new exclusives coming out for PS3 like Twisted Metal, Starhawk, The Last of Us (GOTY when it comes out),and more coming this E3. Sony doesn't care about exclusives at all, no sir.

Xbox has Halo 4 and umm....ya....Halo 4, well there is Witcher (kinda) and it might come to PS3 later anyway, oh you guys get those COD map packs 30 days early...so ya, Xbox is where it's at for games yo! MS, they sure know how to treat their fanbase!

mems_1224

Uncharted 3 was all I needed last year, the rest was just a nice bonus. This year The Last of Us is all I need (if it releases this year) the rest is also a very nice bonus.

You can have fun with just one game that isn't being made by the same dev, maeby it will be good mabey not. But wouldn't you prefer having more options? Wouldn't you like being able to look forward to more games? The more games that come out the more options you have to play.

And don't diss PS3 exclusives, just because you don't like them doesn't mean anything, they all sell pretty well, not Halo well but well enough, and most of them I enjoy alot. And sells don't equal quality sir, COD sold ALOT more than Halo, does that mean Halo is bad?

MS should be giving you guys more, you made the Xbox brand what it is today. My guess is that MS is retireing the 360 and Halo 4 will be the last game for it, they will be focusing on the next system. Let's just hope that next system has alot of good games for it, and that MS hasn't forgotten about you, their origional fanbase.