Sony shouldn't have disabled 3rd party USB

Now, 1 of my controllers doesnt work

and also I have a keyboard taht doesn't work !

WTH ?

stupid hackers ruined it for non-hackers

everything works for me.

Now, 1 of my controllers doesnt work

and also I have a keyboard taht doesn't work !

WTH ?

stupid hackers ruined it for non-hackers

Hydrolex

Really? Ouch. that stinks, and I hope that things get worked out for you.

Out of curiosity, since to the best of my knowledge you're the first here with an actual device not working with the update, could you tell us exactly what controller and keyboard you have that was affected?

We've been going through tons of controllers, keyboards, HDDs, Flash Drives, Headsets, ect and it'd be nice to get firm product models that are actually affected.

All my storage stuff works. I can't imagine the problem is incredibly wide spread at this point. Sorry to hear about your stuff though.

I have this usb thingy that let me put games on my HD and now that doesn't work either. WTF sony?

I have this usb thingy that let me put games on my HD and now that doesn't work either. WTF sony?

elcoholic

Jailbreak?

First Linux. Then USB. Next its the Blu-Ray drive.

Sony is only thining about our safety those fake third party controller could explode you know...

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I have this usb thingy that let me put games on my HD and now that doesn't work either. WTF sony?

Kashiwaba

Jailbreak?

Adjust your sarcasm detector.

That is the reason ms has to sell it's own HDDs because of hackers. Blame them for both cases instead of MS or Sony!\

Or it might be the case for MS they are greedy about the HDDs.

That is the reason ms has to sell it's own HDDs because of hackers. Blame them for both cases instead of MS or Sony!

xhawk27

And the 360 is still the pirate platform. Imagine what would happen if it used a standard HDD that people could plug into their computer and flash.

My USB Hub with PS/2 converter for keyboard works fine too, not to mention my Logitech Ventage USB headset

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That is the reason ms has to sell it's own HDDs because of hackers. Blame them for both cases instead of MS or Sony!

erglesmergle

And the 360 is still the pirate platform. Imagine what would happen if it used a standard HDD that people could plug into their computer and flash.

It does use a standard HD, they just made a special casing for it. Inside it is a regular cheap HD that they sell for 5x as much.

[QUOTE="erglesmergle"]

[QUOTE="xhawk27"]

That is the reason ms has to sell it's own HDDs because of hackers. Blame them for both cases instead of MS or Sony!

elcoholic

And the 360 is still the pirate platform. Imagine what would happen if it used a standard HDD that people could plug into their computer and flash.

It does use a standard HD, they just made a special casing for it. Inside it is a regular cheap HD that they sell for 5x as much.

Installed on the 360 HDDs are MS system files.

First Linux. Then USB. Next its the Blu-Ray drive.

erglesmergle

my logitech keyboard still works great. what brand is your

i love how this board jumps to conclusions...Most likely its only temporary.

Most likely i will be called a cow for this :roll:

i love how this board jumps to conclusions...Most likely its only temporary.

Most likely i will be called a cow for this :roll:

I just checked my kid's PS3. The Logitechs (keyboard and driving wheel/pedals) work fine so far.

Now, 1 of my controllers doesnt work

and also I have a keyboard taht doesn't work !

WTH ?

stupid hackers ruined it for non-hackers

Hydrolex

It's a shame that they did disable support. I've always admired Sony's open support of third party hardware, which is an idea that the other console makers should follow.

It's a shame that they did disable support. I've always admired Sony's open support of third party hardware, which is an idea that the other console makers should follow.

Dark_Knight6

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It's a shame that they did disable support. I've always admired Sony's open support of third party hardware, which is an idea that the other console makers should follow.

Brownesque

I never implied that I did admire that. Almost all major companies will force you to agree to much more than they plan to implement. This is simply for the reason that if they do choose to implement a particular thing, they cannot be sued over it. They could go the route Microsoft has gone within a day. Will they? Probably not.

[QUOTE="Brownesque"][QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

It's a shame that they did disable support. I've always admired Sony's open support of third party hardware, which is an idea that the other console makers should follow.

Dark_Knight6

I never implied that I did admire that. Almost all major companies will force you to agree to much more than they plan to implement. This is simply for the reason that if they do choose to implement a particular thing, they cannot be sued over it. They could go the route Microsoft has gone within a day. Will they? Probably not.

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[QUOTE="Brownesque"] What you shouldn't admire them for is their end user agreement, which included the reservation of the right to brick your console and deny you access to any online services. I also admired them for their support of third party hardware, and likewise their support of open software standards, but that's why I'm upset. Their end user agreement affords them the ability to do much, much more than what they've done already. They could go Xbox tomorrow on us if they wanted to.Brownesque

I never implied that I did admire that. Almost all major companies will force you to agree to much more than they plan to implement. This is simply for the reason that if they do choose to implement a particular thing, they cannot be sued over it. They could go the route Microsoft has gone within a day. Will they? Probably not.

I'm not so upset by their choice to remove third party USB support that I will refuse to buy the console and miss out on some fantastic games. It's not exactly a deal-breaker.

I'm not so upset by their choice to remove third party USB support that I will refuse to buy the console and miss out on some fantastic games. It's not exactly a deal-breaker.

Dark_Knight6

Lets be clear, they did not remove third party support, most of them still work. Its only a few products that don't seem to work and they did not do that intentionally. The reason this happened is to stop the jailbreak practise whereas MS doesn't allow third party products to force consumers to buy their brand only.

i'm also curious as to which products don't work anymore since that seems to be an answer the TC is avoiding to answer.

Hackers did not ruin it, Sony did. Get used to it. If you don't like it, don't do business with them.Brownesque

But what group of people made Sony ruin it?

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[QUOTE="erglesmergle"]

And the 360 is still the pirate platform. Imagine what would happen if it used a standard HDD that people could plug into their computer and flash.

xhawk27

It does use a standard HD, they just made a special casing for it. Inside it is a regular cheap HD that they sell for 5x as much.

Installed on the 360 HDDs are MS system files.

The 360's HDD have been hacked for some time. You can upgrade your hard drive witouth buying a new one from MS, you just need to already have the HDD case and to buy the right type (the same models that microsoft are using). Heck even PC World has the tutorial on the website. The only limitation you have is that you cant up the space to higher then the standard MS ones (even if you use a 1tb hdd it will only detect 250gb)

They should justly be sued for taking out features they advertised the platform as having...Brownesque

This is why Sony will be winning their case against removing OS. Sony's lawyer came out and has said the plaintiffs have yet to provide any evidence of Sony advertising the other OS feature through commercials, on box advertisements, or press releases.

They certainly never advertised anything about them being a system that is open to 3rd party unlicensed products.

I just backed up my gamesaves with my Sandisk usb drive and it worked fine, problems only occur if you use fake versions, in which case you should go buy the proper one.

First Linux. Then USB. Next its the Blu-Ray drive.

erglesmergle

Sony:

Mind giving us the full details of that USB controller?

I have used several USB devices on my PS3 and none of them have malfunctioned. Game Controllers, USB flashdrives, and a 1TB USB Hard disk.

In fact the very last thing I used (only last night, which is long after the most recent firmware update) is a 3rd party Guitar controller (not the official Guitar Hero/Band Hero controller)for use with the Guitar Hero games.

Did they even patch anything yet? I thought they were working on an update to disable the knock off controllers. I wouldnt be surprised if this is a precursor to being able to detect those USB dongle hacks.-ArchAngeL-777-

First Linux. Then USB. Next its the Blu-Ray drive.

erglesmergle

They should justly be sued for taking out features they advertised the platform as having... That they put it in the end user agreement should serve as a warning to you, as a consumer, that in order to protect yourself you shouldn't sign the agreement and shouldn't purchase their products. Signing that agreement is effectively a contractual agreement to take it in the rear if at any point Sony decides that's what they fancy... Just saying.Brownesque

They are being sued for linux removal. And they will not lose the case, because they did not advertise linux, nor did they remove it from systems that had it. The user removed it by making a choice between updating or losing access to the psn. Simple.

And Sony is not obligated to allow 3rd party, unlicensed, hardware to work on their system. They just didn't have any reason not to until now. So, yes, you blame the hackers, who make these things necessary to protect their network and their interests.

crap i didn't think this affected me but i guess i need to see if my logitec wireless kb still works.

i guess it's no biggie if it does not since i have only used the thing like 10 times in the last 4 years but still, bummer if it's disabled.

Sony didnt disable all 3rd party USB device. It disables unlicensed USB device...

If you controller is licensed by Sony, it should still work, such as those Street Fighter controllers.

crap i didn't think this affected me but i guess i need to see if my logitec wireless kb still works.

i guess it's no biggie if it does not since i have only used the thing like 10 times in the last 4 years but still, bummer if it's disabled.

Riverwolf007

That means its nonliscensed. the companies that got permission from sony didn't get there stuff blocked

the TC hasnt even responded. he didnt mention what controller it was or anything. anyways i tried my usb headset, external hdd, and my street fighter arcade stick, and they all work fine.bizzy420

Yea, I have a strong feeling this didn't really effect allot of people (just like Linux) yet allot of haters are jumping on the bandwagon.

I have a feeling the OP just needed to reset his controller :P

Now, 1 of my controllers doesnt work

and also I have a keyboard taht doesn't work !

WTH ?

stupid hackers ruined it for non-hackers

Hydrolex