sony sold their cell production line to toshiba

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#1 dd2005nian
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japan news sony have sold their cell production line to toshiba for 100billion japanese yen. originally, sony and toshiba each invest 250billion japanese yen , but now sony sold their share to toshiba for only 100billion.
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Sir Howard Stringer is making a lot of moves.

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Not surprised, I think we're going to be seeing alot more of this in the aftermath of CH-DVD. I wouldn't be surprised if we see Sony's music division up for sale next.

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They've sold the manufacturing plants but it's still a joint venture between the two.
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link?
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Not surprised, I think we're going to be seeing alot more of this in the aftermath of CH-DVD. I wouldn't be surprised if we see Sony's music division up for sale next.

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CH-DVD is China only.
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Linky linky http://www.eetimes.com/news/semi/rss/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=201806724&cid=RSSfeed_eetimes_semiRSS
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So this means what for gaming?
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So this means what for gaming? Pro_wrestler
We don't really know. Sony is still working to make the Cell smaller and cheaper and still has a steady supply because of the cooperation of Toshiba. It could possibly allow for a price drop because of the money gained now but it's just a guess at best.
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[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]

Not surprised, I think we're going to be seeing alot more of this in the aftermath of CH-DVD. I wouldn't be surprised if we see Sony's music division up for sale next.

RedMarzBoy
CH-DVD is China only.

But its compatible with HD-DVD. The reason CH-DVD is having such an impact is that if China is more or less forced into using CH-DVD, we're going to see a huge market for CH-DVD's. But because CH-DVD movies work in HD-DVD players (not sure if it works the other way around)its more effective for the corperations in Hollywood to support CH-DVD, and therefore HD-DVD. No one in their right mind is going to support BR much longer if China is really going to go 100% CH-DVD.
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[QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"]So this means what for gaming? Ibacai
We don't really know. Sony is still working to make the Cell smaller and cheaper and still has a steady supply because of the cooperation of Toshiba. It could possibly allow for a price drop because of the money gained now but it's just a guess at best.

it means 1, sony lack of money to maintain their plants. 2, the investment in cell is a failure,, besides ps3, no other will use it.
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[QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"]So this means what for gaming? dd2005nian
We don't really know. Sony is still working to make the Cell smaller and cheaper and still has a steady supply because of the cooperation of Toshiba. It could possibly allow for a price drop because of the money gained now but it's just a guess at best.

it means 1, sony lack of money to maintain their plants. 2, the investment in cell is a failure,, besides ps3, no other will use it.

1 is an assumption and 2 is a guess until the end of this gen points to winner.
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[QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"]So this means what for gaming? dd2005nian
We don't really know. Sony is still working to make the Cell smaller and cheaper and still has a steady supply because of the cooperation of Toshiba. It could possibly allow for a price drop because of the money gained now but it's just a guess at best.

it means 1, sony lack of money to maintain their plants. 2, the investment in cell is a failure,, besides ps3, no other will use it.

1. Sony can Afford it 2. You can use a Cell in a PC. CPU's do are compatible with any operating System. this might be the start of that.
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[QUOTE="dd2005nian"][QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"]So this means what for gaming? peacebringer
We don't really know. Sony is still working to make the Cell smaller and cheaper and still has a steady supply because of the cooperation of Toshiba. It could possibly allow for a price drop because of the money gained now but it's just a guess at best.

it means 1, sony lack of money to maintain their plants. 2, the investment in cell is a failure,, besides ps3, no other will use it.

1. Sony can Afford it 2. You can use a Cell in a PC. CPU's do are compatible with any operating System. this might be the start of that.

remember what steve jobs said? cell is less effective than power pc http://www.realtechnews.com/posts/1423 "The New York Times also confirms that Apple has investigated other chips as well. Apple reportedly met with Sony regarding the Cell design but Jobs "was disappointed with the Cell design, which he believes will be even less effective than the PowerPC."' Source: Mac Rumours via NY Times
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Did anyone else acually read the artice ...

Its just the damn factory acually manufacturing the chips ... SONY can still make the CELL chip if they want ... but instead they are going to use their -JOINTLY OWNED-(with Toshiba) factory while also outsourcing production ...

Outsourcing = cheaper ...
Its also more flexibile ... SONY state how many chips the require and they recieve them ... and if the factory isn't constanly running, the the factory owner not SONY whom has additional costs ...
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[QUOTE="RedMarzBoy"][QUOTE="PBSnipes"]

Not surprised, I think we're going to be seeing alot more of this in the aftermath of CH-DVD. I wouldn't be surprised if we see Sony's music division up for sale next.

PBSnipes
CH-DVD is China only.

But its compatible with HD-DVD. The reason CH-DVD is having such an impact is that if China is more or less forced into using CH-DVD, we're going to see a huge market for CH-DVD's. But because CH-DVD movies work in HD-DVD players (not sure if it works the other way around)its more effective for the corperations in Hollywood to support CH-DVD, and therefore HD-DVD. No one in their right mind is going to support BR much longer if China is really going to go 100% CH-DVD.

This is really nothing new from China however. Every few years they try some way at taking over or standardizing a popular market, and are unsuccessful. This is just another bill passed. This could also be bad for HDDVD because of China's history of pirating too in terms of studio support(BD has better protection). And I have a hard time stomaching the idea that the decision of a communist county will decide the format war for the the rest of the world. 
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So this means what for gaming? Pro_wrestler
Sony has less control over the price of the Cell, unless they included it in part of the selling contract.
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#20 maabus99
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Did anyone else acually read the artice ...

Its just the damn factory acually manufacturing the chips ... SONY can still make the CELL chip if they want ... but instead they are going to use their -JOINTLY OWNED-(with Toshiba) factory while also outsourcing production ...

Outsourcing = cheaper ...
Its also more flexibile ... SONY state how many chips the require and they recieve them ... and if the factory isn't constanly running, the the factory owner not SONY whom has additional costs ...
choasgod

I think your confusing foreign outsourcing and corporate contractual supplying. This does not guarentee it will be cheaper for Sony in the long run...

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[QUOTE="PBSnipes"][QUOTE="RedMarzBoy"][QUOTE="PBSnipes"]

Not surprised, I think we're going to be seeing alot more of this in the aftermath of CH-DVD. I wouldn't be surprised if we see Sony's music division up for sale next.

RedMarzBoy

CH-DVD is China only.

But its compatible with HD-DVD. The reason CH-DVD is having such an impact is that if China is more or less forced into using CH-DVD, we're going to see a huge market for CH-DVD's. But because CH-DVD movies work in HD-DVD players (not sure if it works the other way around)its more effective for the corperations in Hollywood to support CH-DVD, and therefore HD-DVD. No one in their right mind is going to support BR much longer if China is really going to go 100% CH-DVD.

This is really nothing new from China however. Every few years they try some way at taking over or standardizing a popular market, and are unsuccessful. This is just another bill passed. This could also be bad for HDDVD because of China's history of pirating too in terms of studio support(BD has better protection). And I have a hard time stomaching the idea that the decision of a communist county will decide the format war for the the rest of the world.

Its amazing how some people know nothing about Economics but the fact is BR is stomping HD-DVD and will continue to do so even if China supports CH-DVD. Communits countries simply do not have the impact on major entertainment mediums that free trade countrys have, and they never will.

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why this thread led to CHDVD?
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#23 DahLong
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CH-DVD can be the biggest next gen DVD just by selling only in China. i don't think CH-DVD is too expensive

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sony doesn't care for the cell outside of playstation
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#25 justforlotr2004
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sony doesn't care for the cell outside of playstationimprezawrx500

They use the Cell in TV's also.