Sony spin in overdrive: PS3 cheaper than 360..super true

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#1 zatorys
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Hey

http://news.vgchartz.com/news.php?id=2759

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#2 Cole-Protocal
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what about extra PS3 costs like component cables (go for about $40 new), or a headset (about $20-$25)???

funny how these articles FAIL to mention that.

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#3 Cole-Protocal
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Either way, this is desperate spin.

An Xbox 360 costs 199, 199, and 399. A PS3 is 399 and 499. Everything else is an accessory.....an option. You dont NEED any of the 360 add-ons.

What if you just want to play/save games? Then A Arcade would fit the bill just fine. With PS3 ur buying into bluray, wifi, stuff u may not want.

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#4 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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Nope.

One costs $399, the other one $199-$279.

It may have more value (what's argueable), but it is not cheaper.

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#5 Avian005
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But wait, the premium comes with a Harddrive and other stuff too, and that's only $300.
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#6 DarkGamer007
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Here is where Sony goes wrong in that article:

1) 20 GB HDD for the Xbox 360 is really all you need, and they can be bought for $30-50.

2) A wirless adapter can be bought for the Xbox 360 new for $60

3) Xbox Live is so far more impressive than Playstation Network for $50 per year which is $4.17 a month

4) A Blu-Ray player can now be bought for $200

199+30+60+(month of live free with console purchase)+200=$490 just $90 more than the Playstation 3. Then also count in the fact that the Xbox 360 is backwards compatible with some 200 Xbox Origonal Games while the Playstation 3 isn't backwards compatible at all.

so yes while the Playstation 3 is still "cheaper" than the Xbox 360 if you buy accessories for the Xbox 360, the 360 is still cheaper out of the box.

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#7 zatorys
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[QUOTE="Cole-Protocal"]

what about extra PS3 costs like component cables (go for about $40 new), or a headset (about $20-$25)???

funny how these articles FAIL to mention that.

no u can get hdmi 20 but dude what about bluray 250$
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#8 Cole-Protocal
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[QUOTE="Cole-Protocal"]

what about extra PS3 costs like component cables (go for about $40 new), or a headset (about $20-$25)???

funny how these articles FAIL to mention that.

zatorys

no u can get hdmi 20 but dude what about bluray 250$

bluray is used for movies.

just because PS3 has it we gotta factor it in for 360? why....because cows say so?

no, u guys dont call the shots, not anymore.

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#9 laughingman42
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LMAO! Sony is now taking advice from cows on SW!!!!
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Sony doesn't seem to grasp the fact the people have brain cells and we can see through this crap better than most of kate moss' tops.
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#11 -Master_St3ve-
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It's mostly true. To have a 360 with everything a PS3 has it would cost more. Though the 360 does have an HDMI port. It said it didn't. To watch blu-ray movies a 360 owner would have to buy a blu-ray player.
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#12 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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Sony is using the same strategy they used on 2006. What happened? It failed HARD. When you can get a 360 Arcade and a Blue-Ray Player for less than a PS3, all that blah blah blah is useless. I'm guessing that Sony is getting kinda desperate.
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#13 Lewisite
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what about extra PS3 costs like component cables (go for about $40 new), or a headset (about $20-$25)???

funny how these articles FAIL to mention that.

Cole-Protocal

LOL another person buying $40 monster cables? Just yesterday we had someone else saying that.

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26739672&msg_id=308581755#308581755

They are easily found for $5;)

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#14 dual_boot
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The PS3 is cheaper relatively only if you actually wanted the things listed. I don't think you can disagree with that. The problem is that most gamers don't want that.
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#15 donalbane
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Remember when they came out with the Dualshock 3, inspiring millions of people to buy new controllers? I sure do. So I'd add at least $55 to the price of every PS3 that was sold before the Dualshock was released.
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I am a PS3 fan, but PS3 is more expensive. However it offers more for that money, which is different than expensivess.
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#17 Verge_6
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One of the very few things the consuming masses (I'm using that term way too much today...) does right is not falling for the whole "It has more value!" spiel. They could not care less about "value" if the product in question is too expensive in their eyes. This is doubly so in today's economically unsound climate. It's sad when a poster here uses this tired, laughable argument (one of the few ones on this board that arguably results in the TC getting laughed at immediately, with no possible counter-argument being able to turn things back in his/her favor), but even more sad when a corporation uses it.
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#18 racastro65
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Here is where Sony goes wrong in that article:

1) 20 GB HDD for the Xbox 360 is really all you need, and they can be bought for $30-50.

2) A wirless adapter can be bought for the Xbox 360 new for $60

3) Xbox Live is so far more impressive than Playstation Network for $50 per year which is $4.17 a month

4) A Blu-Ray player can now be bought for $200

199+30+60+(month of live free with console purchase)+200=$490 just $90 more than the Playstation 3. Then also count in the fact that the Xbox 360 is backwards compatible with some 200 Xbox Origonal Games while the Playstation 3 isn't backwards compatible at all.

so yes while the Playstation 3 is still "cheaper" than the Xbox 360 if you buy accessories for the Xbox 360, the 360 is still cheaper out of the box.

DarkGamer007

agreed. This is a desperate attempt of sony to put bad press to the competition, since they can't win in a normal manner. The funny thing is that people believe it. jeje...lame.

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#19 MasterY_28
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[QUOTE="zatorys"][QUOTE="Cole-Protocal"]

what about extra PS3 costs like component cables (go for about $40 new), or a headset (about $20-$25)???

funny how these articles FAIL to mention that.

Cole-Protocal

no u can get hdmi 20 but dude what about bluray 250$

bluray is used for movies.

just because PS3 has it we gotta factor it in for 360? why....because cows say so?

no, u guys dont call the shots, not anymore.

We called the shots since last gen Mr. We got 7 years of owning you, so you have nothing on us! We're still gona own you in the end of this gen too.
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#20 obamanian
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Hey

http://news.vgchartz.com/news.php?id=2759

:)

zatorys

Xbox 360 = 199$

PS3 = 399$

Sony fails

In my country

Xbox 360 = 250 euro

PS3 = 450 euro !!!!!!!!!!!!!

SUper extra Sony fail

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Here is where Sony goes wrong in that article:

1) 20 GB HDD for the Xbox 360 is really all you need, and they can be bought for $30-50.

2) A wirless adapter can be bought for the Xbox 360 new for $60

3) Xbox Live is so far more impressive than Playstation Network for $50 per year which is $4.17 a month

4) A Blu-Ray player can now be bought for $200

199+30+60+(month of live free with console purchase)+200=$490 just $90 more than the Playstation 3. Then also count in the fact that the Xbox 360 is backwards compatible with some 200 Xbox Origonal Games while the Playstation 3 isn't backwards compatible at all.

so yes while the Playstation 3 is still "cheaper" than the Xbox 360 if you buy accessories for the Xbox 360, the 360 is still cheaper out of the box.

DarkGamer007
Actually I got my Blu-Ray drive for $90 for my PC. I can't find the exact ad, but here is one for only a little bit more: http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4102818&Sku=L12-1145%20OEM Anyone who pays $200+ for a Blu-Ray player is an idiot.
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#22 Cole-Protocal
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[QUOTE="Cole-Protocal"][QUOTE="zatorys"] no u can get hdmi 20 but dude what about bluray 250$ MasterY_28

bluray is used for movies.

just because PS3 has it we gotta factor it in for 360? why....because cows say so?

no, u guys dont call the shots, not anymore.

We called the shots since last gen Mr. We got 7 years of owning you, so you have nothing on us! We're still gona own you in the end of this gen too.

I KNEW IT! You guys do still care about sales!

Well u can sit tight and play the waiting game cause ur not gonna be #2 for a looooong time.

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#23 MasterY_28
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[QUOTE="DarkGamer007"]

Here is where Sony goes wrong in that article:

1) 20 GB HDD for the Xbox 360 is really all you need, and they can be bought for $30-50.

2) A wirless adapter can be bought for the Xbox 360 new for $60

3) Xbox Live is so far more impressive than Playstation Network for $50 per year which is $4.17 a month

4) A Blu-Ray player can now be bought for $200

199+30+60+(month of live free with console purchase)+200=$490 just $90 more than the Playstation 3. Then also count in the fact that the Xbox 360 is backwards compatible with some 200 Xbox Origonal Games while the Playstation 3 isn't backwards compatible at all.

so yes while the Playstation 3 is still "cheaper" than the Xbox 360 if you buy accessories for the Xbox 360, the 360 is still cheaper out of the box.

racastro65

agreed. This is a desperate attempt of sony to put bad press to the competition, since they can't win in a normal manner. The funny thing is that people believe it. jeje...lame.

The people that believe it are the smart ones. The haters are the ones that don't want to believe it. And i couldn't agree with you more about the 360 being cheaper. It's one hell of a cheap machine. If you know what i mean :twisted:
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#24 racastro65
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[QUOTE="Cole-Protocal"][QUOTE="zatorys"] no u can get hdmi 20 but dude what about bluray 250$ MasterY_28

bluray is used for movies.

just because PS3 has it we gotta factor it in for 360? why....because cows say so?

no, u guys dont call the shots, not anymore.

We called the shots since last gen Mr. We got 7 years of owning you, so you have nothing on us! We're still gona own you in the end of this gen too.

not anymore sir. you lost your marketshare you need to catch up. You lost your voice.

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#25 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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[QUOTE="MasterY_28"] It's one hell of a cheap machine. If you know what i mean :twisted:

Of course we know. Costing $200 less and having 90% of the PS3's library, while having (by the critic) more quality exclusives ;)
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#26 MasterY_28
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[QUOTE="MasterY_28"][QUOTE="Cole-Protocal"]

bluray is used for movies.

just because PS3 has it we gotta factor it in for 360? why....because cows say so?

no, u guys dont call the shots, not anymore.

Cole-Protocal

We called the shots since last gen Mr. We got 7 years of owning you, so you have nothing on us! We're still gona own you in the end of this gen too.

I KNEW IT! You guys do still care about sales!

Well u can sit tight and play the waiting game cause ur not gonna be #2 for a looooong time.

Wait for what? I got plenty of games. You're the one that's going to WAIT for better games once you get owned by KZ2. I'm sure you'll droll all over FF13, RE5 and Tekken 6. We MADE those games become what they are today and that's how you thank us? Pfff ! You can't touch me! If you guys like to play the 2005-2006 AAAE games library i got last gen games to throw in your face.
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#27 Rikusaki
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Either way, this is desperate spin.

An Xbox 360 costs 199, 199, and 399. A PS3 is 399 and 499. Everything else is an accessory.....an option. You dont NEED any of the 360 add-ons.

What if you just want to play/save games? Then A Arcade would fit the bill just fine. With PS3 ur buying into bluray, wifi, stuff u may not want.

Cole-Protocal
That's true. But sadly, the PS3 needs it's hard drive. And I'm pretty sure Wifi adapters aren't usually 100$... That's just messed up.
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Sony is just being stupid...
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what about extra PS3 costs like component cables (go for about $40 new), or a headset (about $20-$25)???

funny how these articles FAIL to mention that.

bluray is used for movies.

just because PS3 has it we gotta factor it in for 360? why....because cows say so?

no, u guys dont call the shots, not anymore.

Cole-Protocal

You can get HDMI and headsets pretty cheap. And I wasn't aware that the 360 Arcade came with a headset...I thought just the Pros and the Elites did. So someone who buys an Arcade is still going to pay at least $15 for a wired headset, and $50 - $60 for Microsoft's wireless headset. It's pretty hard to bring those into the argument, as they wash each other out.

Live is a another difficult argument at times because that can go either way. PSN is free, but isn't the same quality as Xbox Live right now.

As far as factoring everything else into the picture, there are anumber of things that are considered "standards" by core gamers. Every current-gen gaming system, including the Nintendo DS, has WiFi except the Xbox. Hard Drives are par for the course now, especially taking into account all of the downloadable material available over Live.

BluRay isn't just for movies; it's also for gaming. It provides more storage space on one disc and cuts down the need for compression. It's also more durable than a DVD could ever hope to be. And the fact that I own the latest media format without having to put another machine in my entertainment center is a nice plus.

So by the time you've purchased most of the items that a gamer will eventually use, the cost will be pretty close. That's why you base it on games and not on the cost of the machine. They both hit you hard sooner or later. I know. I own them both.

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#30 xgraderx
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Yes Sony,because we all buy arcade 360s and all acessories:roll:.Most of us buy the Pro,hook it to the internet with our cable,pay for live and thats it,and that costs less than the PS3.This is the sadest spin yet.Sonys looking very pathetic right now.
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#31 dark-warmachine
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There's a thread on this already. It's the one with around 489 posts.:P
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[QUOTE="EuropeGangsta"]I am a PS3 fan, but PS3 is more expensive. However it offers more for that money, which is different than expensivess.

Once I added everything that I wanted to my 360 Elite it ended up costing me more than my PS3. I bought an Elite for $480 or whatever it was when they first came out and the PS3 for $600. So for me the 360 is more expensive. Elite at the time=$480 Wifi Adaptor = $100 Going on 2 years of Xbox Live=$100 Recharge Kit =$19.99
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[QUOTE="CajunShooter"][QUOTE="EuropeGangsta"]I am a PS3 fan, but PS3 is more expensive. However it offers more for that money, which is different than expensivess.

Once I added everything that I wanted to my 360 Elite it ended up costing me more than my PS3. I bought an Elite for $480 or whatever it was when they first came out and the PS3 for $600. So for me the 360 is more expensive. Elite at the time=$480 Wifi Adaptor = $100 Going on 2 years of Xbox Live=$100 Recharge Kit =$19.99

Serves you right for buying the Wi-fi adapter.
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#34 Generalmojo
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LMAO! Sony is now taking advice from cows on SW!!!!laughingman42

Been on Yahoo lately???

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#35 Floppy_Jim
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Overall, my 360 has cost more money than my PS3 but it wouldn't be that way for everyone. But at least Sony are trying to advertise what the console comes with, that's something they're doing right.
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#36 Phazevariance
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[QUOTE="IronBass"]

Nope.

One costs $399, the other one $199-$279.

It may have more value (what's argueable), but it is not cheaper.

Agreed, i got my 360 and had DH out of the box. My friend bought a PS3 and he had to go buy HDMI cable (or he could ahve gotten component) and a headset. That made his purchase even more costly, and had he ought a 360, he would have had those from the start and had extra cash for more games. PS3 = too expensive and incomplete. 360 = everythign you need for HD gaming right out of the box I can't believe Sony would even offer a system without the HD cables considering you can't watch bluray without an HDCP capable tv/monitor, which you cant have over a composite connection. Stupidest move ever by Sony. EVER!
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#37 acsguitar
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The point isn't wether one is cheaper or the other. Its the fact that Sony took so freaking long to even bring up the price difference and how it can be broken down into accessories and what not.

Logitech rumble pad 2 for PC a 4 years old RF controller works great for PS3. So that saves money too. Sony needs to advertise better. Bring these things up

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#38 TheOwnerOner
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Guess we can throw the "360 sells better because its cheaper" excuse right out the window?
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#39 Cole-Protocal
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360 Pro has a headset, they go for $24.

The Elite has a HDMI cable. If you want a decent one itll be around $20.

Pro and Elite come with component cables. Brand new in a electronic store they go mfor about $30.

The Arcade comes with $40 worth of XBLA games.

The Pro and Elite still are bundled with Kung Fu Panda and Lego Indiana Jones......a combined value of $70-80

Sony kinda forgot to mention those eh :lol:

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#40 Senor_Kami
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Sony sounds like a system wars poster with this. But assuming thats the case... the PS3 is the cheapest console AND has the best games yet its still in last place and the gap between it and the second place guy is only getting wider. From Sony's own mouth, "Confirmed: PS3 = Fail."
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#41 Silverbond
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Sony obviously picked this argument up from SW.
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#42 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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You would expect this kinda crap from SDF :lol: