SONY: We can only achieve sales through bundles

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#1 -GhostMLD-
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MGS4, GTA4, GT 5 Prologue.

Isn't anybody curious how these games would sell if they weren't included in a bundle???? Isn't anybody curiious how many PS3's would sell without these games included????

Well Sony doesn't want to take that chance. Apparently they have no faith in their userbase. So instead, they are bundling these great AAA games that have no reason to be bundled, as they can get sales perfectly on their own.

I don't know. Personally, I find that this is a weakness, as Sony clearly thinks they only way to fuel sales is to bundle games.

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#2 blitzkid1
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Well ps3 outsold 360 the last 2 months without those budles so......
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#3 blitzkid1
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Well ps3 outsold 360 the last 2 months without those bundles so......
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#4 TREAL_Since
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LOL. DId you really have to make a negative thread after reading mine?
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#5 TREAL_Since
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LOL. Did you really have to make a negative thread after reading mine? Plus the bundles haven't started to sell yet (except for GT5: P in Europe?).
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LOL. DId you really have to make a negative thread after reading mine?TREAL_Since

yes, yes i did.

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MGS4, GTA4, GT 5 Prologue.

Isn't anybody curious how these games would sell if they weren't included in a bundle???? Isn't anybody curiious how many PS3's would sell without these games included????

Well Sony doesn't want to take that chance. Apparently they have no faith in their userbase. So instead, they are bundling these great AAA games that have no reason to be bundled, as they can get sales perfectly on their own.

I don't know. Personally, I find that this is a weakness, as Sony clearly thinks they only way to fuel sales is to bundle games.

-GhostMLD-

You could pretty much say the same thing about the Wii. With all those idiotic non-gamers buying Wii just for Wii Sports. You could pretty much say that about NES, Genesis, N64, or any console that was ever bundeled with a game.

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#8 jangojay
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So what's so wrong? Bundles are some pretty good deals. The MGS one is steal!
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#9 SageJMP
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Sony bundled games several times with the ps2. It isn't like it is the first time they even bundled their system with games. Does that mean the ps2 could only achieve it's sales through bundles? Think before you speak.
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#10 thrones
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MGS4, GTA4, GT 5 Prologue.

Isn't anybody curious how these games would sell if they weren't included in a bundle???? Isn't anybody curiious how many PS3's would sell without these games included????

Well Sony doesn't want to take that chance. Apparently they have no faith in their userbase. So instead, they are bundling these great AAA games that have no reason to be bundled, as they can get sales perfectly on their own.

I don't know. Personally, I find that this is a weakness, as Sony clearly thinks they only way to fuel sales is to bundle games.

-GhostMLD-

GOOD GOD! SALES TACTICS IN BUISNESS!?

I'll never see the end of it, THIS IS MADNESS!

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You are $tupid. and guess what? I'm flattering you.

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MGS4, GTA4, GT 5 Prologue.

Isn't anybody curious how these games would sell if they weren't included in a bundle???? Isn't anybody curiious how many PS3's would sell without these games included????

Well Sony doesn't want to take that chance. Apparently they have no faith in their userbase. So instead, they are bundling these great AAA games that have no reason to be bundled, as they can get sales perfectly on their own.

I don't know. Personally, I find that this is a weakness, as Sony clearly thinks they only way to fuel sales is to bundle games.

-GhostMLD-

Say the same thing about NES, SNES, and Genesis, they must needed bundles to sell too, they always sold bundles.

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#14 clone01
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i like bundles. i really miss the days when you got a game with your system.
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#15 TREAL_Since
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[QUOTE="TREAL_Since"]LOL. DId you really have to make a negative thread after reading mine?-GhostMLD-

yes, yes i did.

I do think that bundles help, but I don't think it's the only way to sell consoles man. The PS3 has been selling very well lately with out the bundles.

It's a business decision and it's smart. Just like the exclusive content deal was a business decision that will help out the 360 version.

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[QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]

MGS4, GTA4, GT 5 Prologue.

Isn't anybody curious how these games would sell if they weren't included in a bundle???? Isn't anybody curiious how many PS3's would sell without these games included????

Well Sony doesn't want to take that chance. Apparently they have no faith in their userbase. So instead, they are bundling these great AAA games that have no reason to be bundled, as they can get sales perfectly on their own.

I don't know. Personally, I find that this is a weakness, as Sony clearly thinks they only way to fuel sales is to bundle games.

thrones

GOOD GOD! SALES TACTICS IN BUISNESS!?

I'll never see the end of it, THIS IS MADNESS!

This... is... SONY!!!

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#17 Bdking57
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so true so true.. the merits and price of the console still fale to captivate interests in the united states.. doesnt look like the PS3 has any chance of catchng Microsoft before the next generation begins.
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#18 Andrew_Xavier
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Nintendo invented the concept of bundles in console gaming with the NES, so, I'm guessing the NES also only sold because it was bundled with a game? Later 2 games and a light gun?
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#19 thrones
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so true so true.. the merits and price of the console still fale to captivate interests in the united states.. doesnt look like the PS3 has any chance of catchng Microsoft before the next generation begins.Bdking57

PS3 consistently outselling 360 says otherwise.

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#20 PS_Family
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No, it's actually a brilliant strategy and you're just grasping for straws.
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[QUOTE="Bdking57"]so true so true.. the merits and price of the console still fale to captivate interests in the united states.. doesnt look like the PS3 has any chance of catchng Microsoft before the next generation begins.thrones

PS3 consistently outselling 360 says otherwise.

hes talking about the US only. ANd in the US, the PS3 outsells the 360 by roughly 5000 - 8000 each week. Compare that to the majority of 2006. I wonder what the gap was in that year?

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#22 thrones
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[QUOTE="thrones"]

[QUOTE="Bdking57"]so true so true.. the merits and price of the console still fale to captivate interests in the united states.. doesnt look like the PS3 has any chance of catchng Microsoft before the next generation begins.-GhostMLD-

PS3 consistently outselling 360 says otherwise.

hes talking about the US only. ANd in the US, the PS3 outsells the 360 by roughly 5000 - 8000 each week. Compare that to the majority of 2006. I wonder what the gap was in that year?

US = Entire World.

It makes so much sense now.

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#23 Andrew_Xavier
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[QUOTE="thrones"]

[QUOTE="Bdking57"]so true so true.. the merits and price of the console still fale to captivate interests in the united states.. doesnt look like the PS3 has any chance of catchng Microsoft before the next generation begins.-GhostMLD-

PS3 consistently outselling 360 says otherwise.

hes talking about the US only. ANd in the US, the PS3 outsells the 360 by roughly 5000 - 8000 each week. Compare that to the majority of 2006. I wonder what the gap was in that year?

Oh, 2006, so, by "year" you mean "month", or, are we including the time before the ps3 was released in our surveys of which product sold more?

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The MGS4 and GTA IV bundles should be pretty limited imo because it would take a lot of cash on Sony's part to get them into their bundles because they are third party games. Consumers will have the option to buy the cheaper system in Europe or Japan and the game seperate so it is no like they are free pack-ins. Now some people are going to want to go after the 80 gig ps3 in NA because it has b/c , runble controller , Pain game ....... and they might not be interested in MGS4 neccessarily ...... but whatever , they are getting what is best for them ;) MGS4 bundled sales won't ever show up on the NPD charts so we can know how it really does there beyond the bundles ....... but at the same time a lot of MGS4 fans that heaven't bought a ps3 yet are going to want to get the bundle anyway.

Best thing to do is just wait and see how many bundles go out if the information becomes available. I seriously doubt it is going to be a long term thing.

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#25 Nike_Air
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The MGS4 and GTA IV bundles should be pretty limited imo because it would take a lot of cash on Sony's part to get them into their bundles because they are third party games. Consumers will have the option to buy the cheaper system in Europe or Japan and the game seperate so it is no like they are free pack-ins. Now some people are going to want to go after the 80 gig ps3 in NA because it has b/c , rumble controller , Pain game ....... and they might not be interested in MGS4 neccessarily ...... but whatever , they are getting what is best for them ;) But then again , they might see MGS4 on the box and decide that is not the system for them and get the 40 gig. MGS4 bundled sales won't ever show up on the NPD charts so we can know how it really does there beyond the bundles ....... but at the same time a lot of MGS4 fans that heaven't bought a ps3 yet are going to want to get the bundle anyway.

Best thing to do is just wait and see how many bundles go out if the information becomes available. I seriously doubt it is going to be a long term thing.

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#26 thrones
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The MGS4 and GTA IV bundles should be pretty limited imo because it would take a lot of cash on Sony's part to get them into their bundles because they are third party games. Consumers will have the option to buy the cheaper system in Europe or Japan and the game seperate so it is no like they are free pack-ins. Now some people are going to want to go after the 80 gig ps3 in NA because it has b/c , runble controller , Pain game ....... and they might not be interested in MGS4 neccessarily ...... but whatever , they are getting what is best for them ;) MGS4 bundled sales won't ever show up on the NPD charts so we can know how it really does there beyond the bundles ....... but at the same time a lot of MGS4 fans that heaven't bought a ps3 yet are going to want to get the bundle anyway.

Best thing to do is just wait and see how many bundles go out if the information becomes available. I seriously doubt it is going to be a long term thing.

Nike_Air

They're slightly cheaper than buying seperately it seems.

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#28 thrones
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[QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"][QUOTE="thrones"]

[QUOTE="Bdking57"]so true so true.. the merits and price of the console still fale to captivate interests in the united states.. doesnt look like the PS3 has any chance of catchng Microsoft before the next generation begins.-GhostMLD-

PS3 consistently outselling 360 says otherwise.

hes talking about the US only. ANd in the US, the PS3 outsells the 360 by roughly 5000 - 8000 each week. Compare that to the majority of 2006. I wonder what the gap was in that year?

US = Entire World.

It makes so much sense now.

did i say US = World???????

no i didn't. I simply defended that guys claim that the PS3 will never catch up to the 7 million lead in the ***US***.

I apologise, I skim read the comment and my mind jumped over the 'United States' bit :|

Sorry.

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Or do you know that PS3s come with WiFi, a bluray player, charge and play controllers, are way more reliable, an online browser, free themes, and free online and the 360 doesn't. And now a free game too for the same price as a 360. Why are people even still buying 360s?!
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#30 sambalimbo
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i bought every playstation bundled with a game because if i buy a console i buy it because i want to play at least 1 game on it so why not be able to buy a console and a game, sony is basically doing what consumers want, it would actually be shameful if sony didnt release bundles just to prove they can sell consoles without bundling them
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#31 Eddie-Vedder
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Bundles are good for us... This thread is epic failure.
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Or do you know that PS3s come with WiFi, a bluray player, charge and play controllers, are way more reliable, an online browser, free themes, and free online and the 360 doesn't. And now a free game too for the same price as a 360. Why are people even still buying 360s?! patriots7672

For the RROD ?

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#33 beinss
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You do understand that Sony has the pay massive amounts to the game developers to bundle games like that in the Ps3 right? Thats more dedication than M$ has not even bundling Halo in the HALO EDITION of the 360. Its a way to fule sales, true, but its not because the Ps3 isnt selling thats for sure. From Feb to June the only bundle of the PS3 is the 40gb without any game/movie. And whats that? Oh its outselling the Crap60? Well then.
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#34 glcm1961
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But not nearly as desparate as MS paying Rockstar $50 million for downloadable content in the future, right?

Look. It's called marketing. Sony is in the business of making money and this is a great way to do it. If it offends you or strikes you as desparate, then that's your problem. And yes, you do have a problem. It's called fanboyism. When you are old enough have your dad explain the basics of economics to you so you don't post stupid threads like this.

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#35 Shensolidus
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Achieving sales through bundles? Yes, I hate it when they give consumers what they want. Bad Sony! Quit enticing new console purchases with games that people WANT to play that come with the system. I don't want to save an additional $60 after buying a console, that would be insane. Already spending $400+, how could you take away the sheer JOY of throwing another $60 down with it.
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#36 Fondness
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It doesn't matter. Grand Theft Auto IV is still going to be an enormous game.
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/thread 1st post

Go out and treat yourself :)

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#38 EVOLV3
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They make the bundles because they know millions of people have been waiting for those specific games to buy a PS3. Very very smart move by sony. This will ensure great software and hardware sales.
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#39 Jack_Bauer07
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I still think it's ridiculous that MS released a Halo 360 SKU that didn't even include the game.

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so true so true.. the merits and price of the console still fale to captivate interests in the united states.. doesnt look like the PS3 has any chance of catchng Microsoft before the next generation begins.Bdking57
They have been out selling the 360 in the usa since 2008 started! What are you talking about?
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#41 niall077
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well you cant say the bundles arent working and upping sales :)
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#42 Hexagon_777
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[QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]

MGS4, GTA4, GT 5 Prologue.

Isn't anybody curious how these games would sell if they weren't included in a bundle???? Isn't anybody curiious how many PS3's would sell without these games included????

Well Sony doesn't want to take that chance. Apparently they have no faith in their userbase. So instead, they are bundling these great AAA games that have no reason to be bundled, as they can get sales perfectly on their own.

I don't know. Personally, I find that this is a weakness, as Sony clearly thinks they only way to fuel sales is to bundle games.

Shadow2k6

You could pretty much say the same thing about the Wii. With all those idiotic non-gamers buying Wii just for Wii Sports. You could pretty much say that about NES, Genesis, N64, or any console that was ever bundeled with a game.

The Xbox 360 as well! The Xbox 360 got its own Halo 3 SKU for crying out loud. :lol:

I saw numerous other bundles on Amazon as well. Poor 360...:(

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#43 proeye
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MGS4, GTA4, GT 5 Prologue.

Isn't anybody curious how these games would sell if they weren't included in a bundle???? Isn't anybody curiious how many PS3's would sell without these games included????

Well Sony doesn't want to take that chance. Apparently they have no faith in their userbase. So instead, they are bundling these great AAA games that have no reason to be bundled, as they can get sales perfectly on their own.

I don't know. Personally, I find that this is a weakness, as Sony clearly thinks they only way to fuel sales is to bundle games.

-GhostMLD-

so if somebody doesn't want a ps3 at all sees the bundle , he'll just change his mind and buy it ? or if mgs4(for example) wasn't bundled with the ps3 , people woudln't get a ps3 and then buy mgs4 ? :|

bundling a game with a system is a plus , but isn't the main factor affecting it's sales

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#44 l-_-l
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Sounds like somebody is upset the PS3 is whippin up on the 360. To funny really.
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#45 Pro_wrestler
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Bundles are good....for those who don't have a PS3 yet.

This is the only retort they can come up with to try and counter the potential sales of the better version. They fail to realise that none of their 11mln PS3 owners benefit from this.