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#1 ZumaJones07
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we can already see it happening. nintendo got the biggest market out there and then sony tried to copy with that silly sixaxis, but that failed hard. the 3DS is killing the vita in sales. the handheld market belongs to nintendo and sony is killing itself trying to compete. and in the console area, nintendo has the creativity to actually come up with unique ideas. sony's market isn't nintendo's market, but sony keeps chasing. at least microsoft came up with the cool idea of using your body to control things and microsoft is doing well with kinect. the move on playstation is useless and unoriginal. nintendo's strategy will ultimately kill sony
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Playstation EyeToy came way before Kinect, and sold over 10 million units worldwide. Thing is, Sony has strong third party support, exclusives, and good first party franchises. Whether they will be knocked out by another company, I don't know, but they do make and house some great games and I would be really disappointed to see them go like Sega.

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#3 Chris_Williams
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so the playstation destroyed the 64, the playstation 2 destroyed the gamecube and nintendo wins a 1 gen and we wanna say sony is destroyed?...

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#4 Blazerdt47
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What is the fascination of the obsession of Sony going bankrupt/dying on System Wars lately?:|

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#5 Nohtnym
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I thought sony's problems were in the tv market? Samsung kicking their ass.

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#7 Gue1
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what is killing Sony are Apple and Samsung not Nintendo. And the play with your body:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUZPkSH5YVg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKXncqEYk9g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Au4d5anfjnA

The problem is that Sony didn't marketed it well while MS put half a billion dollars behind Kinect's marketing.

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#8 carljohnson3456
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:lol: Please, Nintendo bowed out of the same race MS and Sony were playing in. If Sony "dies" it will be by the hand of MS, not Nintendo and the Wii.
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#9 sandbox3d
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Ninetendo will die because the ones who are running it, are all a bunch of p edophiles... preying on the mentally retarded sheepies.

ih4tefanboys

That's the SW logic I came to see!

Forget that they've been making top shelf quality, high selling games for decades. Forget that they typically set the standard by which others (try to) follow. Forget that they are quick to realize their weaknesses and assess them. Forget that they'veread the market better than the other giants in recent years.

No, they will fail. Those damn pedos selling games to retards that happen to have good taste in games. THE END IS NEAR NINTENDO!

Yes, that is logic you can take to the bank!

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#10 carljohnson3456
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What is the fascination of the obsession of Sony going bankrupt/dying on System Wars lately?:|

Blazerdt47
Sony is the only one out of the big three still pumping out quality first party games like this gen ISNT going to end soon.
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#11 Gue1
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I thought sony's problems were in the tv market? Samsung kicking their ass.

Nohtnym

yes, that's what it is but people still doesn't get it. The gaming department is what's keeping them afloat.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/bibb-says-sony-making-tectonic-shift-to-software/2012/03/27/gIQAEo5AfS_video.html

and what's the trick to link now? Beause nothing work! Is it because I'm using Chrome or what?

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#12 Blazerdt47
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[QUOTE="Blazerdt47"]

What is the fascination of the obsession of Sony going bankrupt/dying on System Wars lately?:|

carljohnson3456

Sony is the only one out of the big three still pumping out quality first party games like this gen ISNT going to end soon.

Exactly. It amazes me how much hate Sony gets on here. Yet they are the only company pumping out exclusives like no tomorrow.

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#13 sandbox3d
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[QUOTE="Blazerdt47"]

What is the fascination of the obsession of Sony going bankrupt/dying on System Wars lately?:|

carljohnson3456

Sony is the only one out of the big three still pumping out quality first party games like this gen ISNT going to end soon.

Yeah, I dont think the gaming division is going anywhere. Even if Sony does have to bow out of the console race (doubtful), they still have too many strong studios under their belt to just bail altogether.

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[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="Blazerdt47"]

What is the fascination of the obsession of Sony going bankrupt/dying on System Wars lately?:|

sandbox3d

Sony is the only one out of the big three still pumping out quality first party games like this gen ISNT going to end soon.

Yeah, I dont think the gaming division is going anywhere. Even if Sony does have to bow out of the console race (doubtful), they still have too many strong studios under their belt to just bail altogether.

Yeah, I dont think they'll be going the way of Sega anytime soon, but if they do, you can guarantee they'll still be making games.
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#15 Nohtnym
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[QUOTE="Nohtnym"]

I thought sony's problems were in the tv market? Samsung kicking their ass.

Gue1

yes, that's what it is but people still doesn't get it. The gaming department is what's keeping them afloat.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/bibb-says-sony-making-tectonic-shift-to-software/2012/03/27/gIQAEo5AfS_video.html

and what's the trick to link now? Beause nothing work! Is it because I'm using Chrome or what?

Not really... psp vita is dragging them down.

Sony picture entertainment is making them lots of money.

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Playstation EyeToy came way before Kinect, and sold over 10 million units worldwide. Thing is, Sony has strong third party support, exclusives, and good first party franchises. Whether they will be knocked out by another company, I don't know, but they do make and house some great games and I would be really disappointed to see them go like Sega.

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this awesome post my friend
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#17 carljohnson3456
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[QUOTE="Gue1"]

[QUOTE="Nohtnym"]

I thought sony's problems were in the tv market? Samsung kicking their ass.

Nohtnym

yes, that's what it is but people still doesn't get it. The gaming department is what's keeping them afloat.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/bibb-says-sony-making-tectonic-shift-to-software/2012/03/27/gIQAEo5AfS_video.html

and what's the trick to link now? Beause nothing work! Is it because I'm using Chrome or what?

Not really... psp vita is dragging them down.

Sony picture entertainment is making them lots of money.

Dude the PS3 lost Sony more money than the Vita will ever lose. Bottom line for Sony, the Playstation name is one of their biggest brands. They need to make it more profitable though.
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#18 Nohtnym
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[QUOTE="Nohtnym"]

[QUOTE="Gue1"]

yes, that's what it is but people still doesn't get it. The gaming department is what's keeping them afloat.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/bibb-says-sony-making-tectonic-shift-to-software/2012/03/27/gIQAEo5AfS_video.html

and what's the trick to link now? Beause nothing work! Is it because I'm using Chrome or what?

carljohnson3456

Not really... psp vita is dragging them down.

Sony picture entertainment is making them lots of money.

Dude the PS3 lost Sony more money than the Vita will ever lose. Bottom line for Sony, the Playstation name is one of their biggest brands. They need to make it more profitable though.

Okay? Doesnt change the fact that psp vita is failure atm. and is dragging sony computer entertainment down.

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#19 StrongDeadlift
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Microsoft didnt "come up with the cool idea" of Kinect. 3DIR cameras were not invented by MS.

Infact, Kinect itself wasnt even invented by MS. Kinect was an invention by a company called 3DV systems which was shown off at CES 2009 (and it wasnt tied to a specific console yet). Microsoft saw their shiny toy at ces, they acquired 3DV systems for $30 Million dollars, slapped their logo on it and redemoed it at E3 as "project natal".

Heres another interesting tidbit....3DV systems, the company that made kinect (which was bought by MS) actually went to BOTH Nintendo and Sony first with the idea and were rejected by by both of them.

Brool Story co.

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Sony is dead and nintendo has the knife.

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[QUOTE="ZumaJones07"]we can already see it happening. nintendo got the biggest market out there and then sony tried to copy with that silly sixaxis, but that failed hard. the 3DS is killing the vita in sales. the handheld market belongs to nintendo and sony is killing itself trying to compete. and in the console area, nintendo has the creativity to actually come up with unique ideas. sony's market isn't nintendo's market, but sony keeps chasing. at least microsoft came up with the cool idea of using your body to control things and microsoft is doing well with kinect. the move on playstation is useless and unoriginal. nintendo's strategy will ultimately kill sony

MS killed sony. They took over 87% of their exclusive games first 3rd or 2nd party. They made them change to online. They made them have to fully featurize the Ps3 and not do the low power thing again. They got some of their LONG TIME third-parties to go multiplat. They are getting better outer game support before Sony does (HBO go, etc.) and etc.
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[QUOTE="Another48hours"] They made them have to fully featurize the Ps3 and not do the low power thing again. They got some of their LONG TIME third-parties to go multiplat. They are getting better outer game support before Sony does (HBO go, etc.) and etc.

Boy was did you make it obvious when you ran out of semi-valid points.
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#24 KungfuKitten
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Actually I think microsoft will die by nintendo in the future rather than sony:

Microsoft went for casuals.
A lot of sales.
No quality.

I think that will hurt them in the next generation. Kinect sold en masse and has been very bad marketing because it doesn't work well and only has 2 or maybe 3 quality titles for it. The Wii had way more and Sony doesn't provide much for the casual gamer. I don't think casuals were even considering the Move and it really depends on their next generation approach what their outcome will be.

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#25 HalcyonScarlet
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I suppose from Nintendo's perspective, it would be poetic justice.

That aside, I don't think Nintendo had a hand in Sonys problems. I think it was down to the monumental arrogance that led to this hardware design and underestimating their opponants this gen. But even this is only a referance to the Playstation divisions losses this gen.

The major issues with Sony are company wide and are in areas Nintendo have nothing to do with. I'd be sad if anything happened to Sony, I like their products (not refering to their gaming division with this). They are trust worthy and are of high quality.

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#26 DeadMan1290
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Thing is: Sony ain't dying.

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#27 joojtzu
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If sony die then it will be down to sony and not anyone else.
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#28 Benfica2
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If sony die then it will be down to sony and not anyone else.joojtzu

QFT . Sony started to blew it with some bad decisions at the beggining of this gen. Their current situation is only their fault.

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[QUOTE="Blazerdt47"]

What is the fascination of the obsession of Sony going bankrupt/dying on System Wars lately?:|

carljohnson3456
Sony is the only one out of the big three still pumping out quality first party games like this gen ISNT going to end soon.

Well said.
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so the playstation destroyed the 64, the playstation 2 destroyed the gamecube and nintendo wins a 1 gen and we wanna say sony is destroyed?...

Chris_Williams

Nintendo was financially healthy after both those generations !

Can't you spot the difference, really ?

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Sony ain't going anywhere...and judging by the size of the company vanishing from the map like some are wishing is just impossible.

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[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

so the playstation destroyed the 64, the playstation 2 destroyed the gamecube and nintendo wins a 1 gen and we wanna say sony is destroyed?...

Caseytappy

Nintendo was financially healthy after both those generations !

Can't you spot the difference, really ?

Ha, really. I think Sonys gaming division will be fine for the foreseeable future, but a lot of people are really trying to understate the seriousness of the situation here. I know SW has a knack for hyperbole and everything is always doomed... DOOMED. But Sony is in a bad position right now, no denying it.

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#33 ZumaJones07
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Sony ain't going anywhere...and judging by the size of the company vanishing from the map like some are wishing is just impossible.

rogerjak
they could end their venture into the gaming industry and stick to other entertainment. that's gonna happen in the near future
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#34 waltefmoney
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An honorable death.

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[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="Blazerdt47"]

What is the fascination of the obsession of Sony going bankrupt/dying on System Wars lately?:|

Heil68

Sony is the only one out of the big three still pumping out quality first party games like this gen ISNT going to end soon.

Well said.

You guys are missing the point. The Games division can do as well as it wants but it is part of a larger failing company. 6.5 billion loss in one year. Its the first loss of its kind in 65 years for this company because of infighting with the different divisions and a refusal to change etc. Bottom line if you work at a company, your fate is tied to the fate of that company. Im sure if you look at Huge companies that folded over the years, they might of had a profitable, "Marketing division" or maybe their "Accounting division" was top noch...but if the company itself went out of business, what did all of that noteworthy praise about a particular division matter??? Were the remainder of that marketing division gonna hang around and start a subsidiary, or just go find work in another firm? I am by no means joining the "Sony is Doomed" parade, but pointing out that a particular division in a failing company is doing well and "making games" is pretty stupid.

And as a footnote, those "exclusives " you keep bragging about are not selling. They are going to become a drag on the bottom line of a company that is bleeding money. They are spending X amount of millions to create these "mediocre" to "good" exclusives, and they are not selling because they do not market the game or the game just has no mass market appeal. I dont see this model carrying forward for the PS4. (If there is one)

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An honorable death.

waltefmoney

More like death by rake

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbd4t-ua-WQ


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#37 rogerjak
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[QUOTE="rogerjak"]

Sony ain't going anywhere...and judging by the size of the company vanishing from the map like some are wishing is just impossible.

ZumaJones07

they could end their venture into the gaming industry and stick to other entertainment. that's gonna happen in the near future

Your car must be this one :

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#38 waltefmoney
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[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

An honorable death.

blue_hazy_basic

More like death by rake

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbd4t-ua-WQ


Also honorable.

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:lol: Please, Nintendo bowed out of the same race MS and Sony were playing in. If Sony "dies" it will be by the hand of MS, not Nintendo and the Wii.carljohnson3456

can't under estimate nintendo

they already surived the first system war

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#40 ZumaJones07
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[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]:lol: Please, Nintendo bowed out of the same race MS and Sony were playing in. If Sony "dies" it will be by the hand of MS, not Nintendo and the Wii.ebrezzy1

can't under estimate nintendo

they already surived the first system war

good point. Nintendo has already proven it can win. Sony is like the Sega of yesterday
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at least microsoft came up with the cool idea of using your body to control things and microsoft is doing well with kinect. the move on playstation is useless and unoriginal.ZumaJones07

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[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]:lol: Please, Nintendo bowed out of the same race MS and Sony were playing in. If Sony "dies" it will be by the hand of MS, not Nintendo and the Wii.ebrezzy1

can't under estimate nintendo

they already surived the first system war

Gensis and SNES were not the first system war.
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[QUOTE="ZumaJones07"] at least microsoft came up with the cool idea of using your body to control things and microsoft is doing well with kinect. the move on playstation is useless and unoriginal.CooperThief

They work nothing a like.
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#44 glimpus
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Ninetendo will die because the ones who are running it, are all a bunch of p edophiles... preying on the mentally retarded sheepies.

ih4tefanboys

lol wut?

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#45 helwa1988
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As long as Sony dies I don't care who does the killing. Sony has been lazy, arrogant and ripping people off this Gen. Ps1 and Ps2 was 100 % pure awesomeness. Ps3 is something I like to forget.
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Works for me.
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#47 Coolyfett
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Nice thread man. Sony is a great company.

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[QUOTE="CooperThief"]

[QUOTE="ZumaJones07"] at least microsoft came up with the cool idea of using your body to control things and microsoft is doing well with kinect. the move on playstation is useless and unoriginal.Reverse-Machete

They work nothing a like.

Explain.

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#49 ultraking
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As long as Sony dies I don't care who does the killing. Sony has been lazy, arrogant and ripping people off this Gen. Ps1 and Ps2 was 100 % pure awesomeness. Ps3 is something I like to forget.helwa1988
cause no other company rips people off? And lol at the sony is arrogant comment
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[QUOTE="ebrezzy1"]

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]:lol: Please, Nintendo bowed out of the same race MS and Sony were playing in. If Sony "dies" it will be by the hand of MS, not Nintendo and the Wii.Reverse-Machete

can't under estimate nintendo

they already surived the first system war

Gensis and SNES were not the first system war.

just the only one that people cared about