Sony's 4th Quarter Profits Down a Whopping 95 Percent

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#1 scaryteddy
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In a time when we're hearing bad news coming from basically every company out there, Sony's 4th quarter numbers are a notch below the rest: a 95% drop in profits.

A 95% drop sounds more like an accounting loss - they knew sales would be down (abysmally so) and they had other losses to write off so why not toss it in the one quarter? That way next quarter (regardless of sales) is going to soar...

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#2 Erik_Lensherr
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Who cares if profits are down 95 % they made a 400 Million YEN profit that's all that matters :lol:

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#3 DireOwl
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link?
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#4 one_on_one
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Ouch. That completely wiped out all the profits if any they made all year in a single quarter.
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#5 hiryu3
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also who cares when that money is not in or out of any of our pockets
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#6 scaryteddy
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link?DireOwl

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gHqEoLle79Wp7nEztgSq6Hy8yHQAD960Q0MG1

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#7 box0rocks
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sucks for sony, but on the bright side nintendo is swimming in money and microsoft... i really dont know but they are probly making money off the xbox and other software
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#8 DireOwl
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[QUOTE="DireOwl"]link?scaryteddy

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gHqEoLle79Wp7nEztgSq6Hy8yHQAD960Q0MG1

Thank you.:)

On topic: That really is not good for Sony... not good at all.

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#9 flacracker173
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Who cares if profits are down 95 % they made a 400 Million YEN profit that's all that matters :lol:

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Yeah but likes 1 dollars to YENs is like a gazillion YENs.
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#10 EVOLV3
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Q4 just started...it ends in March
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#11 hiphop_quotable
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its not looking good for sony right now, hopefully they can bounce back from this.
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#12 II-FBIsniper-II
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Didn't Q4 just start?
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#13 EVOLV3
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Didn't Q4 just start?II-FBIsniper-II


Yes, Q4 starts in Janary and ends in March
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#14 spinecaton
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Q4 just started...it ends in MarchEVOLV3

Someone doesn't know how fiscal quarters work :P (not you)

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#15 muffin200
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Q4 just started...it ends in MarchEVOLV3
Depends on your accounting calander. Some places run Jan to Dec and some April to March.
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Q4 just started...it ends in MarchEVOLV3

:? something isn't right here...

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#17 DireOwl
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[QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"]Didn't Q4 just start?EVOLV3


Yes, Q4 starts in Janary and ends in March

I think TC meant Q3. The link says October - December sales.

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#18 nervmeister
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its not looking good for sony right now, hopefully they can bounce back from this.hiphop_quotable
I guess it depends on how well Sony markets a certain February exclusive.
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#20 nintendo-4life
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Who cares if profits are down 95 % they made a 400 Million YEN profit that's all that matters :lol:

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how much is that in dollars?
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#21 stiltzsy
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Who cares if profits are down 95 % they made a 400 Million YEN profit that's all that matters :lol:

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This is a joke right? For those that think you are serious, if they don't make money they will have to cut costs (and things that are losing money are typically top of the chopping block). Making a few dollars in profit isn't enough to keep shareholders happy. If I'm investing in Sony stock they better dang well return more than a few pennies for the stock that I own.
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#22 hiphop_quotable
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[QUOTE="hiphop_quotable"]its not looking good for sony right now, hopefully they can bounce back from this.nervmeister
I guess it depends on how well Sony markets a certain February exclusive.

I hope they will market it well, but I doubt it.

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#23 GodofBigMacs
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For those of you who might think this is all because of the PS3... it is partially, but they must realize that there are other branches, like HDTV's, Walkmans, Sony Ericcsons, etc. The troubled economy definitely does not help.
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#24 b1lal
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[QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"]

Who cares if profits are down 95 % they made a 400 Million YEN profit that's all that matters :lol:

nintendo-4life
how much is that in dollars?

4.4 million
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#25 muffin200
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[QUOTE="stiltzsy"][QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"]

Who cares if profits are down 95 % they made a 400 Million YEN profit that's all that matters :lol:

This is a joke right? For those that think you are serious, if they don't make money they will have to cut costs (and things that are losing money are typically top of the chopping block). Making a few dollars in profit isn't enough to keep shareholders happy. If I'm investing in Sony stock they better dang well return more than a few pennies for the stock that I own.

Well your in trouble what ever you invested in then. Recessions/Credit crunch wipes billions of everything. You want to feel bad for the Stockholders then feel bad for the bank stock holders.
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#26 gensigns
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If I'm investing in Sony stock they better dang well return more than a few pennies for the stock that I own.stiltzsy

Since Sony stock has tanked from 52 to 20 in the last six months or so, pennies are the least of their worries!

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#27 stiltzsy
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[QUOTE="stiltzsy"][QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"]

Who cares if profits are down 95 % they made a 400 Million YEN profit that's all that matters :lol:

muffin200
This is a joke right? For those that think you are serious, if they don't make money they will have to cut costs (and things that are losing money are typically top of the chopping block). Making a few dollars in profit isn't enough to keep shareholders happy. If I'm investing in Sony stock they better dang well return more than a few pennies for the stock that I own.

Well your in trouble what ever you invested in then. Recessions/Credit crunch wipes billions of everything. You want to feel bad for the Stockholders then feel bad for the bank stock holders.

I agree..but still it doesn't avoid the issue of companies making cuts. MS chopped off their dev team that makes Flight Sim and some gaming blog. My point is Sony will be making cuts and more cuts if things don't improve. With the most expensive console during a recession things don't look good for the PS3.
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#28 Nerd_Man
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sucks for sony, but on the bright side nintendo is swimming in money and microsoft... i really dont know but they are probly making money off the xbox and other softwarebox0rocks

This this?

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I don't know why 360 fanboys are using this as bragging rights and ownage making joke threads and laughing they don't know how serious this is worldwide not just sony m$ and many other companys are having financial problems as well if this keeps happening many more companies will cut jobs including maybe your parents alot of people will be broke and homeless alot of crimes will occur and starvation has any of you ever read of the great depression we won't be worried about games we will be worried about finding food to eat.

we just need to pray and thank God that we have food on our tables now and have all these electronics we love so much and we need to stop laughing at companies losing money and cutting jobs lets just hope that the economy makes a comeback.

fn Bush I still can't believe cost this country trillions :(

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#30 nervmeister
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Hey, if Sony is destined to remain in 3rd place, then so be it. That'll just inspire them not to be so arrogant and thus make better decisions with their games division (especially when it comes to pricing).
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Thanks George Bush not only have you screwed up our economy, foreign image, environement, and self esteem you have also destroyed our video game console makers.

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[QUOTE="EVOLV3"]Q4 just started...it ends in Marchmuffin200
Depends on your accounting calander. Some places run Jan to Dec and some April to March.

i have a client that runs July - June
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Thanks George Bush not only have you screwed up our economy, foreign image, environement, and self esteem you have also destroyed our video game console makers.

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lol funny if it were true but the moon is more at fault
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Just to show how bad it really is.

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#35 surrealnumber5
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Just to show how bad it really is.

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wow that is bad, i love how the market is teaching sony not to put out trash to gamers but as a whole company i dont want them to go under. is the ps3 under electronics or game? i am talking about hardware. dang sony cut your financial services sell off the accounts and stick to what you were good at.
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also who cares when that money is not in or out of any of our pocketshiryu3

if this continues... say bye-bye to the playstation brand

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#37 surrealnumber5
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[QUOTE="hiryu3"]also who cares when that money is not in or out of any of our pocketsogvampire

if this continues... say bye-bye to the playstation brand

after the ps3 i would be fine with that but what i do care about are the people that are employees of sony, they do not have a flat organization and employ a lot of people
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]

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Just to show how bad it really is.

surrealnumber5

wow that is bad, i love how the market is teaching sony not to put out trash to gamers but as a whole company i dont want them to go under. is the ps3 under electronics or game? i am talking about hardware. dang sony cut your financial services sell off the accounts and stick to what you were good at.

Ooops I accidently posted the same things twice heres the break down of the gaming figures (its under gaming BTW) and I'll edit the other post

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Did they post a profit in the games division last quarter?
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#41 ogvampire
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[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

[QUOTE="hiryu3"]also who cares when that money is not in or out of any of our pocketssurrealnumber5

if this continues... say bye-bye to the playstation brand

after the ps3 i would be fine with that but what i do care about are the people that are employees of sony, they do not have a flat organization and employ a lot of people

thats true, but alot of the work for hardware is outsourced...

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blue_hazy_basic
invintory increased 15.5 billion yen year over year, curancy games could be played there, but if they are noting exchange problems else where its prob on the up and up. operating income down i would guess because of the ps2 falling off. well for you ps3 fanboys there is one good bit of news in all of this. game sales are going up for the ps3 and because the rate of hardware sales went down that would mean the attach rate went up year over year. there is your SW ammo
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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]

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invintory increased 15.5 billion yen year over year, curancy games could be played there, but if they are noting exchange problems else where its prob on the up and up. operating income down i would guess because of the ps2 falling off. well for you ps3 fanboys there is one good bit of news in all of this. game sales are going up for the ps3 and because the rate of hardware sales went down that would mean the attach rate went up year over year. there is your SW ammo

Except you'd expect software sales to have grown because the PS3 numbers had another year to grow - hence almost 6-7million more PS3's!
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#44 surrealnumber5
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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]

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blue_hazy_basic
invintory increased 15.5 billion yen year over year, curancy games could be played there, but if they are noting exchange problems else where its prob on the up and up. operating income down i would guess because of the ps2 falling off. well for you ps3 fanboys there is one good bit of news in all of this. game sales are going up for the ps3 and because the rate of hardware sales went down that would mean the attach rate went up year over year. there is your SW ammo

Except you'd expect software sales to have grown because the PS3 numbers had another year to grow - hence almost 6-7million more PS3's!

yea it wont be a 1:1 increase in attach rate but i would bet some thing that, just based off of these numbers, the ps3 has had an increased attach rate year over year. and if one finds change in ratios then compared it to say the wii it could be a higher change. all i am saying is that there is a way to twist this in to a pro sony SW argument even if it is bad news over all else
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#46 Leejjohno
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Profit is over rated. As long as they stay in the black things should be okay.
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#47 death919
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At least they're still profiting - there are many companies reporting LOSSES. Although I agree that it's funny. XD
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I don't know why 360 fanboys are using this as bragging rights and ownage making joke threads and laughing they don't know how serious this is worldwide not just sony m$ and many other companys are having financial problems as well if this keeps happening many more companies will cut jobs including maybe your parents alot of people will be broke and homeless alot of crimes will occur and starvation has any of you ever read of the great depression we won't be worried about games we will be worried about finding food to eat.

we just need to pray and thank God that we have food on our tables now and have all these electronics we love so much and we need to stop laughing at companies losing money and cutting jobs lets just hope that the economy makes a comeback.

fn Bush I still can't believe cost this country trillions :(

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This is system wars deal with it
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#50 BetaRay
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Damn...that sucks for Sony