[QUOTE="FatalDomain"][QUOTE="Kinitari"][QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="FatalDomain"] Well as old skool gamer, I dont need to tout sales figures and games on the horizon as a reason to support my console of choice this gen. There is no rule that states you must migrate to the next gen system blindly without considering the alternatives on the market (any real gamer knows this!!).
Your posts defy logic, plain and simple!!! Sony could post the worse news known to business and we would see a post from you saying everythang is just fine, a minor setback...When you go to great extremes like that, you become a fanboy!! All gaming companies have their ups and downs, but its up to the consumers to call out the faults and challenge the company to better themselves for our money. When you have "YES men" among a group, it puts a monkeywrinch in the cause because it gives the company the impression all is well in consumerland with just a few complaints.
To be blunt Sony has lost this gen, every AAA third party title on the 360 was originally meant for the PS3!!!! Sony had the market in the palm of its hands and let MS and Ninty throw the knockout blows to quiet the Sony storm. For you to sit back and claim a handful of games is worth the price of admission for the PS3 is unbelievable.
To each his own I guess...
Game On...
CJL13
My posts don't defy logic. I'm not stupid, nor do I make up anything to prove my points. If you had actually read some of my posts then you'd know that while PS3 is in fact my console of choice for this gen, I'm also buying a Wii and 360 later down the track. And PS2 wasn't the only console I had last gen. I had a GC/Xbox too. I don't own a PSP, I own a DS cause it has more games I want. Do I still sound like a Sony employee?
Anyway, to claim Sony has lost this gen already doesn't really make sense since we have absolutely no idea how consumers will react to the console when it's more appealing to the public eye with a few price drops and high profile titles like FF, GTA, MGS, FF etc.
The worst thing about the PS3 is the price. It's a setback. It doesn't ensure Sony can't win this gen with, and I think they will because like I said before, I expect it to have the best games and traditionally, the console with the best games wins the console war so that's why I think it'll win.
I'm not asking you to agree with me. It's my opinion.
I'm going to stand in the very best's corner here and have to disagree with you fatal.
First and foremost, you are spouting the most assumptive stuff I have heard in quite a while. It is like you are trying to -tell- him how to be a proper gamer, and if he WAS a proper gamer interestingly enough, he would KNOW that the PS3 was A - not worth buying and B - a failed console.
And about this whole price thing... do you genuinely think that if someone is passionate enough to buy all three consoles, then the extra 200 (or maybe 100 soon) of the PS3 over the 360 is REALLY going to deter them that much?
And you shouldn't again make assumptions as to how he reacts when 'bad news' comes from the PS3 corner, what if this bad news is completely irrelevant to him? A game going multiplat that was original PS3... what if he genuinely did not want this game in the first place, and even if he did, why does he care too much if it goes multiplat?
LASTLY, I find your "For you to sit back and claim a handful of games is worth the price of admission for the PS3 is unbelievable." kind of funny, because people did the exact same thing with the 360 when it came out - and oh, LOOK AT THAT, the 360 got some MORE good games, because you know... that happens.
As a gamer who has seen many systems come and go by some of the most talented companies in the industry, I know what Im talking about. If my comments were posted after E3 05 regarding Sony, you could label me as a uninformed gamer. But the way the PS3 is currently under-performing, no console has ever been in a situation such as this and somehow turned things around in their favor because of a price drop. The industry knows the problems with the PS3 is more than a simple issue of price.
That being said, I made my comments about how much BS (the very best) was spewing with each post (not just this topic) regarding the PS3 is doing just fine, "aside from a few setback, blah, blah, blah Sony will WIN!!!" How many posts have you read on these boards with people acting as if the handful of expected titles on the PS3 are the holy grail to gaming? I would assume plenty....I dont have a problem with a gamer stating they want a PS3 for the exclusive titles, but to go to the extreme of being naive to think Sony will pull out a victory ISunbelievable.
Its all about being real to yourself as a gamer. Supporting the Dreamcast, N64, Jaguar, Sega Saturn, or any other dying system of its era wasnt a problem, gamers excepted the fate of the product and enjoyed it while it last. But the Sony clan refuse to acknowledge the truth about the PS3. Its not rocket science to know the PS3 is struggling to survive. Fatal mistakes were made with the PS3 project and now Sony has to bear the burden of what to do next to attempt to save face. But instead of the Sony fans rallying together to help Sony know what the customer wants, they are giving Sony the impression they are doing a good job.
We all know that most gamers dont have a surplus of money to support all consoles, thats why you do the research and pick the system you choose to stick with. But just because you support a console doesnt mean you ignore logic or the trends of the industry....
You came in on the tail end of our convo and I actually had dropped it and chose to just respect the gamers opinion. But since you opened the can once again we can either stand toe-to-toe or just simply walk away quiety, its your call...
Game On...
For someone who wants to just drop it, it's kinda hard to do that when you accuse someone saying their entire posting history is clueless Sony loving.
Though the PS3 is having trouble now they can still turn around and get 2nd place. They're not in as bad in a situation as say the Jaguar or 3DO.
He's saying that those titles will HELP turn things around, not that they will. Sony has to help change that on their own.
And before saying that fans of dying systems acknowleged that those systems sucked, I still see topics claiming the N64 and DC beat the PS1/PS2 down, so don't go stating that PS3 fans are the worst for not only supporting a system where it seems less than a year doing bad means it will do bad the whole lifecycle, but refusing to say so.
I can only deal with one type of fanboy at a time... :lol:
But you are right some people are still in denial about the systems and companies they support. I will be honest and said I was once a blind fanboy. I was a devoted fan of Sega and enjoyed my Genesis. Once the Sega CD launched I bought it solely because the Genesis was great IMO. I held onto Sega's every words about how revolutionary it was...No other system on the market was using cds and I believed the words of the few supporting devs touting "teh potential" and "cartridge space issues" seems familiar doesnt it!!!! Of course you couldnt tell me anything wrong about it because it was a Sega..woohoo!! Ignoring the fact I was the only one I knew who could play those interactive videos, I was in delusional heaven.
Well we all know how the system turned out but from that day I realized how ignorant I was for blindly backing a system, I refused to follow the trend again. So to see these new gamers (born and raised on Playstation) act as if Sony could do no wrong, I find myself in these discussions often.
Now Im a seasoned gamer, I enjoy games. But I will be honest in saying the PS3 wont see my money because I dont like the direction Sony has taken its most prised creation. The focus on gaming is simply not there and I refuse to support that. If I stumble onto someone with a PS3 I will be happy to pick up a controller and give it a go, but for me to spend my hard earned money on a product Im not happy with is not an option. Consumers wouldnt buy any other products with the notion of one day things will turn around, so what makes the PS3 sooo special? Thats the question no one has been able to answer!!!!!
Game On...
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