Sonys Downfall?

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#1 winner1001
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Am i only the only one tired or reading threads about how sony is going to fail, and how the PS3 could be the end of sony. I thought it might be usefull to enlighten some of you in the fact that Playstation is only a small percentage, i think i read 13% somewhere. Sony sells tvs, dvd players, they have movies, music players, mp3 players and all kinds of electronic stuff, so the ps3 hurts them, but not enough to kill them.

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If you were in a yard with a pitbull, would you want it to die(before it bites you)or bite you? Wishing for death comes from fear!
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#3 _AsasN_
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No, I'm tired of seeing the countless threads too, but trying to have a legitimate, logical argument with a fanboy is like talking to a wall. Luckily there are lots of people here who aren't that ignorant.
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#4 LastSamurai14
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I don't even think SCEA is taking losses, because they're making money on the PSP and PS2 still.

Sony will not fail, anyone who says that honestly is stupid. They own 2 major movie companies (MGM Grand and Columbia pictures), they sell all kinds of TVs, they are forerunning the "flexible tv" (dunno who else read/saw this, it was a slim/flexible display), they sell blu ray players and DVD players, they sell computers, they sell MP3 players. They also sell stuff for cars (DVD players, CD players, radios, etc).

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#5 Shake_N_Bake4
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No, I'm tired of seeing the countless threads too, but trying to have a legitimate, logical argument with a fanboy is like talking to a wall. Luckily there are lots of people here who aren't that ignorant._AsasN_

Yeah, Facts arent allow'd 'round ere

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#6 Kaze_no_Mirai
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No, I'm tired of seeing the countless threads too, but trying to have a legitimate, logical argument with a fanboy is like talking to a wall. Luckily there are lots of people here who aren't that ignorant._AsasN_

Same could be said about cows saying that Nintendo is/was going to die.

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#7 goblaa
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I don't even think SCEA is taking losses, because they're making money on the PSP and PS2 still.

Sony will not fail, anyone who says that honestly is stupid. They own 2 major movie companies (MGM Grand and Columbia pictures), they sell all kinds of TVs, they are forerunning the "flexible tv" (dunno who else read/saw this, it was a slim/flexible display), they sell blu ray players and DVD players, they sell computers, they sell MP3 players. They also sell stuff for cars (DVD players, CD players, radios, etc).

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They are. first quarter net profits were negitive 2 billion dollars.

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#8 XTy
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What hurt the PS3?

Too much too soon and more importantly, PRICE.

It all comes down to price. They put too much in the thing, heck, i cant think of something they forgot hardware wise!

Of course some smart aleck wants to type "Games, LOL." but seriously, that PS3 is packed with too many goodies that increased the price.

With as much going on in it, Im surprised it has such a fantastic Defect Rate compared to the PS2 or 360.

Oh well, in time it will go down...

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#9 themagicbum9720
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i think it's funny

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#10 OfficialBed
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i like sony :)
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#11 fuzzysquash
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If PS3 absolutely failed, it would be a huge blow to Sony.

But I personally don't think it will.

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If it is they can only blame themselves for pushing Blu-Ray first, games second. They are most likely going to win the format war against HD-DVD but are they going to win the console war? :?

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#13 Dencore
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Console possibly, handhelds nope PSP is selling just fine, as long as they make profit they WILL continue.

I'm more worried about Microsoft since they haven't made a dime in profit, Peter Moore left, and some of their games are being released on the DS *though this is nothing new remember Sonic and the Neo Geo Pocket*.

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#14 Shusty_lives
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Sony has a product called the PS2. Let's not forget they're making money off that system. Unlike M$ who hasn't made a single red penny in the gaming division. To TC, try not to take gaming forums too serious. To help you out, think of every poster on the other side of the computer as some 8 year old kid who just figure out how to developed his own opinion. It works for me.
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#15 jimm895
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I don't think Sony is really worried about lossing because they have so many assests that they can use to keep things going (actually the losses there having could be a great tax write-off for the other branches of the corp.).

I think there are more movie studios that Sony owns or owns a major share of (Tri-Star) is one of them. Also people seem to forget that a lot of the video/audio equipment used to film most of these movies is manufactured by Sony. One of the local news rooms just recentlly finished remodeling there news rooms and all the HD camaras are Sony.

So Sony being in trouble is far far from any kind of truth.

Just something for the M$ fans to really think about.

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#16 -Wheels-
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Am i only the only one tired or reading threads about how sony is going to fail, and how the PS3 could be the end of sony. I thought it might be usefull to enlighten some of you in the fact that Playstation is only a small percentage, i think i read 13% somewhere. Sony sells tvs, dvd players, they have movies, music players, mp3 players and all kinds of electronic stuff, so the ps3 hurts them, but not enough to kill them.

winner1001

Ya, it's an article on gs that says Sony's Game division counts for 13% of all their sales. Still millions and millions of dollars, but not Sony's death.
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#17 demonik_360
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you should be more worried about micrsoft. i think in all they have lost 4-5 billion dollars towards the xbox...sony has made billions...now they will lose money(like now lol) but at that cost im sure they can get out of that hole and sell so much more than the others...now they mat not sell 100 million but prolly around 50 :D
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#18 StealthSting
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I think it is greatly exaggerated as well, much like the Nintendo going the way of Sega argument. Wich to anybody who knows how that happened to Sega and knows the current situation of Nintendo is completely ludicrous to even think of such a situation.
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#19 JiveT
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Am i only the only one tired or reading threads about how sony is going to fail, and how the PS3 could be the end of sony.

winner1001

Short answer: Yes.

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#20 Solid_Max13
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I find the PS3 to be like the PS2 in a way it took a while for PS2 to gain some good games for a while but after that had some amazing games, as for there death, it's hughly highly unlikely. They've got more money than they can count.
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#21 winner1001
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does anyone know what year it was that the ps2 became the winner of the last generation, was it 2002?
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#22 ReverseCycology
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Meh, Sony as a companyisn't going any where, the PS3 on the other hand....

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#23 SergeantSnitch
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Am i only the only one tired or reading threads about how sony is going to fail, and how the PS3 could be the end of sony. I thought it might be usefull to enlighten some of you in the fact that Playstation is only a small percentage, i think i read 13% somewhere. Sony sells tvs, dvd players, they have movies, music players, mp3 players and all kinds of electronic stuff, so the ps3 hurts them, but not enough to kill them.

winner1001


I think when people refer to "Sony's Downfall" they are talking about the Playstation brand name downfall. There's no way Sony as a whole would go under. They lead a lot of other areas in electronics such as TVs, Media Players, Cameras, movies, etc etc as you mentioned.
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[QUOTE="winner1001"]

Am i only the only one tired or reading threads about how sony is going to fail, and how the PS3 could be the end of sony. I thought it might be usefull to enlighten some of you in the fact that Playstation is only a small percentage, i think i read 13% somewhere. Sony sells tvs, dvd players, they have movies, music players, mp3 players and all kinds of electronic stuff, so the ps3 hurts them, but not enough to kill them.

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I think when people refer to "Sony's Downfall" they are talking about the Playstation brand name downfall. There's no way Sony as a whole would go under. They lead a lot of other areas in electronics such as TVs, Media Players, Cameras, movies, etc etc as you mentioned.

No matter what the cows say, this generation is the downfall for the playstation brand. It PS3 is by far the worst Playstation yet. It's like the gamecube of this gen.

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#25 SergeantSnitch
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[QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"][QUOTE="winner1001"]

Am i only the only one tired or reading threads about how sony is going to fail, and how the PS3 could be the end of sony. I thought it might be usefull to enlighten some of you in the fact that Playstation is only a small percentage, i think i read 13% somewhere. Sony sells tvs, dvd players, they have movies, music players, mp3 players and all kinds of electronic stuff, so the ps3 hurts them, but not enough to kill them.

_KenKittyragi_



I think when people refer to "Sony's Downfall" they are talking about the Playstation brand name downfall. There's no way Sony as a whole would go under. They lead a lot of other areas in electronics such as TVs, Media Players, Cameras, movies, etc etc as you mentioned.

No matter what the cows say, this generation is the downfall for the playstation brand. It PS3 is by far the worst Playstation yet. It's like the gamecube of this gen.



No, it's like the Nintendo 64 of its gen. Sony will still have great first party support (Socom, Gran Turismo, God of War, Twisted Metal, Ratchet and Clank, Uncharted and other Naughty Dog games, LBP, etc. etc.) The PS3 isn't the Gamecube, FAR from it.
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#26 winner1001
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No matter what the cows say, this generation is the downfall for the playstation brand. It PS3 is by far the worst Playstation yet. It's like the gamecube of this gen.

I dont think its the downfall of the playstation brand. Last generation gamecube was way in last place in the console war, and you could have said that is was the downfall of the nintendo brand, but they came back and are now dominating the sales, almost tied with xbox360. I think if sony started planning now for the PS4, they could get things right, and im hoping that they will learn that $600 is alot of money for a gaming console. The PS3 should have not been released until this upcoming winter, so that it would atleast be released with some really good games and not crappy ports.

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#27 YearoftheSnake5
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The PS3 will not be the end of Sony. They would have to fail several times, like Sega did, in order to be put out of the gaming market.
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#28 bulletmath
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The PS3 isn't going to die just because the PSP did
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#29 h2owizard
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sonys okay but it would suck to see their gaming industry die :cry:
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#30 Magical_Zebra
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I don't even think SCEA is taking losses, because they're making money on the PSP and PS2 still.

LastSamurai14

A 2 billion loss in 6 months from the gaming division is not a loss? :shock:

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[QUOTE="_AsasN_"]No, I'm tired of seeing the countless threads too, but trying to have a legitimate, logical argument with a fanboy is like talking to a wall. Luckily there are lots of people here who aren't that ignorant.Kaze_no_Mirai

Same could be said about cows saying that Nintendo is/was going to die.

thats cause nitendo is a VG company only if they loss in video games that comopanies goes under
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#32 squallff8_fan
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Am i only the only one tired or reading threads about how sony is going to fail, and how the PS3 could be the end of sony. I thought it might be usefull to enlighten some of you in the fact that Playstation is only a small percentage, i think i read 13% somewhere. Sony sells tvs, dvd players, they have movies, music players, mp3 players and all kinds of electronic stuff, so the ps3 hurts them, but not enough to kill them.

winner1001

Welcome to the forum that is ran by lemmings. Get use to it, because they will try an do anything to make the ps3 look like it is not worth it, and not acknowlege that there system has even bigger problems but are so fanboyish to try an cover it up even if they are getting milked more then cows and sheep, lol. Welcome to system wars.

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#33 KAS3Y_JAM3Z
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Am i only the only one tired or reading threads about how sony is going to fail, and how the PS3 could be the end of sony. I thought it might be usefull to enlighten some of you in the fact that Playstation is only a small percentage, i think i read 13% somewhere. Sony sells tvs, dvd players, they have movies, music players, mp3 players and all kinds of electronic stuff, so the ps3 hurts them, but not enough to kill them.

winner1001

people are talking about sony ENTERTAINMENT. as in the sony game devision. don't be ignorant.

cows say the same about MS. even though ms is one of the most wealthiest companies in the world. and the losses from the 360 is merely pocket change to MS

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#34 mattyomo99
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plus ppl fail to relize that the PS2 is still making money for sony
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#35 mazdero
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If it is they can only blame themselves for pushing Blu-Ray first, games second. They are most likely going to win the format war against HD-DVD but are they going to win the console war? :?

PS3_3DO

You know winning the format war makes Sony a lot more money than winning the console war right? Not that I believe that is what Sony is doing, but think about it.

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#36 RedMarzBoy
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Sony is doing fine. the ps3 hasn't even been out a whole year and is doing good.Nintendo is marching to a beat of their own drum and will stay.Microsoft is building momentum but hasn't made money on videogames. I don't think they'll quit though.
The videogame market has grown so big over the past decade. That it is entirely possible for it to support all three.
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#37 brainscientist
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If it is they can only blame themselves for pushing Blu-Ray first, games second. They are most likely going to win the format war against HD-DVD but are they going to win the console war? :?

PS3_3DO

The fact that they make movies makes you wonder which was more important to them.

Blu-ray winning or winning the console war.