Sony's HOLIDAY just went right in the TOILET! Facts speak for themselfs.

Halo 3

Bioshock

Mass Effect

Eternal Sonata

Blue Dragon

Madden 08 at 60 frames

COD4 with the better online and slighty better graphics if history holds true.

399.00 Elite Sku 299.00 Prem sku= HOLIDAY OWNAGE for the 3rd strait year.

Sony's holiday goes like this.

Warhawk a generic shooter

Lair already been delayed for reported massive floppage

Heavenly Sword a button mashing hack and slash = AAat best.

599.00 80gig PS3=

=FLUSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHH

Halo 3

Bioshock

Mass Effect

Eternal Sonata

Blue Dragon

Madden 08 at 60 frames

COD4 with the better online and slighty better graphics if history holds true.

399.00 Elite Sku 299.00 Prem sku= HOLIDAY OWNAGE for the 3rd strait year.

Sony's holiday goes like this.

Warhawk a generic shooter

Lair already been delayed for reported massive floppage

Heavenly Sword a button mashing hack and slash = AAat best.

599.00 80gig PS3=

=FLUSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHH

Mr_Fugly

you are pathetic.

more fanboy trash. how nice.h575309

no...its not actually...

You call Warhawk a generic future, and you are hyping Halo 3? Also, saying a game is a button masher doesn't make it true. Saying NG or GoW are button mashers doesn't make them so, and saying HS is one doesn't either.ithilgore2006

I've played HS demo and yes it's a button masher with some combo's throw in it's nowhere newr the perfection of NG

[QUOTE="Mr_Fugly"]

Halo 3

Bioshock

Mass Effect

Eternal Sonata

Blue Dragon

Madden 08 at 60 frames (what's wrong with this?)

COD4 with the better online and slighty better graphics if history holds true.

399.00 Elite Sku 299.00 Prem sku= HOLIDAY OWNAGE for the 3rd strait year.

Sony's holiday goes like this.

Warhawk a generic shooter (needs to be taken out until review)

Lair already been delayed for reported massive floppage

Heavenly Sword a button mashing hack and slash = AAat best. (agreed, this statement is also crazy)

599.00 80gig PS3=

=FLUSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHH

Nero_Paladin

you are pathetic.

What is wrong with the Madden comment?

[QUOTE="h575309"]more fanboy trash. how nice.SpaceDragonMan

no...its not actually...

its opinion based on nothing factual and none of these games are out. he is deliberately bashing the ps3 and praising the 360 before any of these games have been released or reviewed by GS. that = fanboy trash.

Not all of those games you listed are exactly "good".

For example, I just played the Eternal Sonata demo:

"WTF why am I hitting people with an umbrella... this game is stupid and generic."

Superb post my friend, truly a great strike to the cows...

Eternal Sonata, Bioshock, BD are not Killer Apps, while i believe Bioshcok and BD will be awsome, they are not going to own the Holidays

Not a single casual has a clue what the diff between 30 and 60 FPS is, nor do they even know that Madden 08 on the 360 is running at 60 and not 30

COD4 looks identical acorss all systems, how do we know it has better multiplayer? cuz u want it too?

The Elite is 450, and the Prem is 350, wait for the next price drop to boast such claims...

Warhawk is the most fun ive had on my PS3 to date, many people agree, Warhawk is amazing and fun

Lair looks fun, wait for the GS GT IGN reviews

Heavenly Sword is beautiful with great cinematic quality and NOT a hack and slash

Uncharted looks amazing, RnC looks stunning, Folklore looks promising, SOCOM looks fun, Haze and UT3 look great

Sony is fine

R-Dot-Yung

Everyone knows the difference between $599 and $299 or whatever the price is though. That is the real deciding factor.

Well, I'm not going to be AS harsh of a fanboy, it you must admit that without GTAIV, the PS3 really has no system-sellers to compete on the level that Halo 3, Mass Effect, and Bioshock will be. Systems sell over the holidays based on hype and excitement. Those 3 games can "walk the walk" when it comes to matching their hype.

Oh, and MS is a master of hyping AAA games - look at what they've done with Halo 2 and Gears of War in the past. Sony's PR and advertising department is run by blind monkeys. NOBODY in these forums can deny these two facts.

Just wait - after Bioshock is released you will see a tidal wave of hype and advertising that is Halo 3. Casuals will know that Halo 3 is coming. Hardcore gamers will know Halo 3 is coming. Heck, your grandmother will know that Halo 3 is coming. THIS is what sells games and consoles (oh, and the game needs to be pretty good, too)...

Madden 08 at 60FPS isn't going to sell more. Madden Challenge 08 being on the 360 will.Blackbond

Yes great point the Madden challange has been played on Xbox systems for years now. And i see no change in sight.

[QUOTE="SpaceDragonMan"]

[QUOTE="h575309"]more fanboy trash. how nice.h575309

no...its not actually...

its opinion based on nothing factual and none of these games are out. he is deliberately bashing the ps3 and praising the 360 before any of these games have been released or reviewed by GS. that = fanboy trash.

Keep your pants on, I was refering to the "how nice" part.....

Not all of those games you listed are exactly "good".

For example, I just played the Eternal Sonata demo:

"WTF why am I hitting people with an umbrella... this game is stupid and generic."

BigDaddyPOLO

No worst then spiky haired girly boys with a sword that looks like it ways a ton

[QUOTE="h575309"]more fanboy trash. how nice.SpaceDragonMan

no...its not actually...

Yes i think there is some real credence as to what i have said. It's not like i'm not making good points with possible AAA title games.

Halo 3

Bioshock

Mass Effect

Eternal Sonata

Blue Dragon

Madden 08 at 60 frames

COD4 with the better online and slighty better graphics if history holds true.

399.00 Elite Sku 299.00 Prem sku= HOLIDAY OWNAGE for the 3rd strait year.

Sony's holiday goes like this.

Warhawk a generic shooter

Lair already been delayed for reported massive floppage

Heavenly Sword a button mashing hack and slash = AAat best.

599.00 80gig PS3=

=FLUSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHH

[/QUOTE

It isfunny when really bad opinions get passed off as so called fact from some random dude sitting in his room.

[QUOTE="h575309"]more fanboy trash. how nice.SpaceDragonMan

no...its not actually...

Newsflash....yes, it is actually. You think it not just because you happen to agree with him is all, lol. Did you ever stop to consider that there are multitudes of people who are greatly anticipating the very games that he listed, plus who are planning on buying all of the killer multiplats on the PS3 as well? Not to mention the fact that he forgot a few exclusives and timed exclusives, such as:

UT3

Haze

Uncharted

Ratchet and Clank Future.

Based on those 4 games alone, plus all of the multiplats, I would say even those would make for a mighty fine holiday for most PS3 fans. Do not use your personal preference as a measuring stick for what everyone else is interested in.;)

[QUOTE="Mr_Fugly"][QUOTE="BigDaddyPOLO"]

Not all of those games you listed are exactly "good".

For example, I just played the Eternal Sonata demo:

"WTF why am I hitting people with an umbrella... this game is stupid and generic."

R-Dot-Yung

No worst then spiky haired girly boys with a sword that looks like it ways a ton

I would rather play as Cloud or Tidus than a Cel Shaded Hentai Chick with an Umbrella in a gown

just my preference though

She is a little girl so they are keeping it real a little GIRL. And the others have stronger weapons. You can not deny the fact that Eternal Sonata has great graphics and music with incredible fantasy style.

firstly whats the big deal with games running at 60fps.

warhawk labled as a generic shooter when you like COD4.

the reasons in general are weak and it screams fanboy.

you just have just kept halo release and 360 price cut = good Christmas.

and I'm not sure about bioshock. it could be GOTY but itll probably be a underground hit like system shock and deus ex. commercially i doubt it will push 360 sales significantly like halo will.

from a business perspective only

[QUOTE="SpaceDragonMan"]

[QUOTE="h575309"]more fanboy trash. how nice.ironcreed

no...its not actually...

Newsflash....yes, it is actually. You think it not just because you happen to agree with him is all, lol. Did you ever stop to consider that there are multitudes of people who are greatly anticipating the very games that he listed, plus who are planning on buying all of the killer multiplats on the PS3 as well? Not to mention the fact that he forgot a few exclusives and timed exclusives, such as:

UT3

Haze

Uncharted

Ratchet and Clank Future.

Based on those 4 games alone, plus all of the multiplats, I would say even those would make for a mighty fine holiday for most PS3 fans. Do not use your personal preference as a measuring stick for what everyone else is interested in.;)

I was referring to the "how nice'' part, Goddammit...

It's my understanding that Madden is running at 60fps on both PS3 and 360. Only NCAA '08 is running at 30fps on PS3. If I'm mistaken, someone post me a link that contradicts my understanding.bforrester

I think even Peter Moore himself stated at E3 that it's 60 frames for Madden on 360.

[QUOTE="bforrester"]It's my understanding that Madden is running at 60fps on both PS3 and 360. Only NCAA '08 is running at 30fps on PS3. If I'm mistaken, someone post me a link that contradicts my understanding.Mr_Fugly

I think even Peter Moore himself stated at E3 that it's 60 frames for Madden on 360.

so what COD4 60fps on both

Res5 60fps on both

why does it matter so much

[QUOTE="Mr_Fugly"]

[QUOTE="bforrester"]It's my understanding that Madden is running at 60fps on both PS3 and 360. Only NCAA '08 is running at 30fps on PS3. If I'm mistaken, someone post me a link that contradicts my understanding.Nero_Paladin

I think even Peter Moore himself stated at E3 that it's 60 frames for Madden on 360.

so what COD4 60fps on both

Res5 60fps on both

why does it matter so much

It's just kind of strange how this almighty thing called Cell seems to always be struggling to hit 60 frames for games. And if it does the game needs to be delayed to do so.

[QUOTE="ironcreed"][QUOTE="SpaceDragonMan"]

[QUOTE="h575309"]more fanboy trash. how nice.SpaceDragonMan

no...its not actually...

Newsflash....yes, it is actually. You think it not just because you happen to agree with him is all, lol. Did you ever stop to consider that there are multitudes of people who are greatly anticipating the very games that he listed, plus who are planning on buying all of the killer multiplats on the PS3 as well? Not to mention the fact that he forgot a few exclusives and timed exclusives, such as:

UT3

Haze

Uncharted

Ratchet and Clank Future.

Based on those 4 games alone, plus all of the multiplats, I would say even those would make for a mighty fine holiday for most PS3 fans. Do not use your personal preference as a measuring stick for what everyone else is interested in.;)

I was referring to the "how nice'' part, Goddammit...

LOL, good for you then. Easy to see how I thought you meant otherwise though.

Well, I'm not going to be AS harsh of a fanboy, it you must admit that without GTAIV, the PS3 really has no system-sellers to compete on the level that Halo 3, Mass Effect, and Bioshock will be. Systems sell over the holidays based on hype and excitement. Those 3 games can "walk the walk" when it comes to matching their hype.

Oh, and MS is a master of hyping AAA games - look at what they've done with Halo 2 and Gears of War in the past. Sony's PR and advertising department is run by blind monkeys. NOBODY in these forums can deny these two facts.

Just wait - after Bioshock is released you will see a tidal wave of hype and advertising that is Halo 3. Casuals will know that Halo 3 is coming. Hardcore gamers will know Halo 3 is coming. Heck, your grandmother will know that Halo 3 is coming. THIS is what sells games and consoles (oh, and the game needs to be pretty good, too)...

REVENGEotSITH

Great point a woman i work with has even said to me hey is Halo 3 coming out soon. And she is like 45 years old and does not play games. But even she knows the WRATH of the MASTER CHEIF

[QUOTE="Mr_Fugly"][QUOTE="BigDaddyPOLO"]

Not all of those games you listed are exactly "good".

For example, I just played the Eternal Sonata demo:

"WTF why am I hitting people with an umbrella... this game is stupid and generic."

R-Dot-Yung

No worst then spiky haired girly boys with a sword that looks like it ways a ton

I would rather play as Cloud or Tidus than a Cel Shaded Hentai Chick with an Umbrella in a gown

just my preference though

I bet you prefer the game with the man that looks like a teenage girl who rides a chocobo.

[QUOTE="Nero_Paladin"][QUOTE="Mr_Fugly"]

[QUOTE="bforrester"]It's my understanding that Madden is running at 60fps on both PS3 and 360. Only NCAA '08 is running at 30fps on PS3. If I'm mistaken, someone post me a link that contradicts my understanding.Mr_Fugly

I think even Peter Moore himself stated at E3 that it's 60 frames for Madden on 360.

so what COD4 60fps on both

Res5 60fps on both

why does it matter so much

It's just kind of strange how this almighty thing called Cell seems to always be struggling to hit 60 frames for games. And if it does the game needs to be delayed to do so.

as im not a sony fanboy i cant be bothered in arguing with you about whether the cell chip powerfull or not. i can only read what devs have said about it and decide for myself.

Well, I'm not going to be AS harsh of a fanboy, it you must admit that without GTAIV, the PS3 really has no system-sellers to compete on the level that Halo 3, Mass Effect, and Bioshock will be. Systems sell over the holidays based on hype and excitement. Those 3 games can "walk the walk" when it comes to matching their hype.

Oh, and MS is a master of hyping AAA games - look at what they've done with Halo 2 and Gears of War in the past. Sony's PR and advertising department is run by blind monkeys. NOBODY in these forums can deny these two facts.

Just wait - after Bioshock is released you will see a tidal wave of hype and advertising that is Halo 3. Casuals will know that Halo 3 is coming. Hardcore gamers will know Halo 3 is coming. Heck, your grandmother will know that Halo 3 is coming. THIS is what sells games and consoles (oh, and the game needs to be pretty good, too)...

REVENGEotSITH

Why do people come on here and act like they are smarter than the industry......you have NO idea what you are talking about, you can speculate all you want but those aren't facts, just becauseyou think it is going tobe a great games doesn't mean crap videos or still shots doesn't mean it will be a AAAjust because you like a particular system......."News flash Bro it doesn't make it fact" Halo I will give you but Mass Effect and Bioshock are just as unproven as Lair and Hevenly Sword!

Halo 3

Bioshock

Mass Effect

Eternal Sonata

Blue Dragon

Madden 08 at 60 frames

COD4 with the better online and slighty better graphics if history holds true.

399.00 Elite Sku 299.00 Prem sku= HOLIDAY OWNAGE for the 3rd strait year.

Sony's holiday goes like this.

Warhawk a generic shooter

Lair already been delayed for reported massive floppage

Heavenly Sword a button mashing hack and slash = AAat best.

599.00 80gig PS3=

=FLUSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHH

Mr_Fugly

You call Warhawk a generic shooter? How is a game that involves online teamwork both through the sky and on the ground generic? Sounds like a ton of fun to me!What exactly makes Halo 3 so mind blowing? What the bunny hopping multiplayer? Both UT 3 and CoD 4 willgive Halo 3 a run for gamers $$$this year! Bioshock will be a great game, but nobody will run out to buy a 360 to play it! YOU FAIL!!

Mass Effect, Blue Dragon and Eternal Sonata are all RPG's and because of that are not mass market type titles. Not everyone enjoys those types of games. YOU FAIL!!

Infinity Ward has already flat out said that the PS3/360 versions of CoD 4 will look and play identical. What facts do you have to back up your reasoning that CoD 4 multiplayer will be better on 360? YOU FAIL!!!

Unless you have a 360 and a PS3 sitting side by side, the difference of Madden running at 30fps on PS3 and 60 fps on 360 will be virtually undetectable to the masses!!! YOU FAIL!!

Umm, unless you have some info that nobody else does, the 360 SKU's are $429 for the Elite, $349 for Pro and $249 for Core. Again..YOU FAIL!!

Is Lair out yet? It was pulled back for further refinement. The copy that EGM reviewed was not the fianl copy now was it? Its going to be funny when EGM has to re-review Lair and give it 7's, 8's and 9's like everyone else is!!!YOU FAIL!!

Heavenly Sword is incredible!! I can tell that from the short playable demo that we PS3 owners got to play!! Have you played it? YOU FAIL!!

Yes, there is a 80 GB PS3 now for $600 but it also has a game packed in!! Oh and the 60 GB isnt going away just yet either! Im betting Sony has enough of the 60 GB at $499 to make it through the holidays for sure!!! YOU FAIL!!!!

Warhawk

Uncharted

Ratchet and Clank

Lair

UT 3

HAZE

Heavenly Sword

Folksoul

All of this says you FAIL in this thread!!!! Have a nice day!!

more fanboy trash. how nice.h575309

Not surprised are you? Lately it would seem my day would be incomplete without a hyper pro 360 thread by Fugly.

[QUOTE="R-Dot-Yung"][QUOTE="Mr_Fugly"][QUOTE="BigDaddyPOLO"]

Not all of those games you listed are exactly "good".

For example, I just played the Eternal Sonata demo:

"WTF why am I hitting people with an umbrella... this game is stupid and generic."

Mr_Fugly

No worst then spiky haired girly boys with a sword that looks like it ways a ton

I would rather play as Cloud or Tidus than a Cel Shaded Hentai Chick with an Umbrella in a gown

just my preference though

She is a little girl so they are keeping it real a little GIRL. And the others have stronger weapons. You can not deny the fact that Eternal Sonata has great graphics and music with incredible fantasy style.

Sonata great graphics?. ES looks like a PS2 launch title but yeah it's a good game.

[QUOTE="R-Dot-Yung"][QUOTE="Mr_Fugly"][QUOTE="BigDaddyPOLO"]

Not all of those games you listed are exactly "good".

For example, I just played the Eternal Sonata demo:

"WTF why am I hitting people with an umbrella... this game is stupid and generic."

Mr_Fugly

No worst then spiky haired girly boys with a sword that looks like it ways a ton

I would rather play as Cloud or Tidus than a Cel Shaded Hentai Chick with an Umbrella in a gown

just my preference though

She is a little girl so they are keeping it real a little GIRL. And the others have stronger weapons. You can not deny the fact that Eternal Sonata has great graphics and music with incredible fantasy style.

The main character who is a boy looks more feminine than the other two which are actually girls...Unless the demo on XBL is different from the one I played about two months ago from the OXM magazine.

[QUOTE="h575309"]more fanboy trash. how nice.dhjohns

Not surprised are you? Lately it would seem my day would be incomplete without a hyper pro 360 thread by Fugly.

No I am not. I just wish sometimes maybe a fanboy would actually use facts for their arguments. I think they are blind and therefore, cannot read. Thus, they cannot do any research and cannot display a decent argument.

[QUOTE="REVENGEotSITH"]

Well, I'm not going to be AS harsh of a fanboy, it you must admit that without GTAIV, the PS3 really has no system-sellers to compete on the level that Halo 3, Mass Effect, and Bioshock will be. Systems sell over the holidays based on hype and excitement. Those 3 games can "walk the walk" when it comes to matching their hype.

Oh, and MS is a master of hyping AAA games - look at what they've done with Halo 2 and Gears of War in the past. Sony's PR and advertising department is run by blind monkeys. NOBODY in these forums can deny these two facts.

Just wait - after Bioshock is released you will see a tidal wave of hype and advertising that is Halo 3. Casuals will know that Halo 3 is coming. Hardcore gamers will know Halo 3 is coming. Heck, your grandmother will know that Halo 3 is coming. THIS is what sells games and consoles (oh, and the game needs to be pretty good, too)...

Ericvon71

Why do people come on here and act like they are smarter than the industry......you have NO idea what you are talking about, you can speculate all you want but those aren't facts, just becauseyou think it is going tobe a great games doesn't mean crap videos or still shots doesn't mean it will be a AAAjust because you like a particular system......."News flash Bro it doesn't make it fact" Halo I will give you but Mass Effect and Bioshock are just as unproven as Lair and Hevenly Sword!

Well we do have some evidence rolling in. I mean Gamerankings has Lair at about 73% and Bioshock has been getting 95%+

[QUOTE="Mr_Fugly"][QUOTE="R-Dot-Yung"][QUOTE="Mr_Fugly"][QUOTE="BigDaddyPOLO"]

Not all of those games you listed are exactly "good".

For example, I just played the Eternal Sonata demo:

"WTF why am I hitting people with an umbrella... this game is stupid and generic."

messiah1

No worst then spiky haired girly boys with a sword that looks like it ways a ton

I would rather play as Cloud or Tidus than a Cel Shaded Hentai Chick with an Umbrella in a gown

just my preference though

She is a little girl so they are keeping it real a little GIRL. And the others have stronger weapons. You can not deny the fact that Eternal Sonata has great graphics and music with incredible fantasy style.

Sonata great graphics?. ES looks like a PS2 launch title but yeah it's a good game.

Ahhh yiaa yiiaaa sure PS2 OK!!! it looks way better then a PS2 game.

Superb post my friend, truly a great strike to the cows...

Eternal Sonata, Bioshock, BD are not Killer Apps, while i believe Bioshcok and BD will be awsome, they are not going to own the Holidays

Not a single casual has a clue what the diff between 30 and 60 FPS is, nor do they even know that Madden 08 on the 360 is running at 60 and not 30

COD4 looks identical acorss all systems, how do we know it has better multiplayer? cuz u want it too?

The Elite is 450, and the Prem is 350, wait for the next price drop to boast such claims...

Warhawk is the most fun ive had on my PS3 to date, many people agree, Warhawk is amazing and fun

Lair looks fun, wait for the GS GT IGN reviews

Heavenly Sword is beautiful with great cinematic quality and NOT a hack and slash

Uncharted looks amazing, RnC looks stunning, Folklore looks promising, SOCOM looks fun, Haze and UT3 look great

Sony is fine

R-Dot-Yung

QFT, that warhawk beta was awesome. I had more fun in it, than any other game online i've played including Halo, Gears, RFoM and CoD.

[QUOTE="messiah1"][QUOTE="Mr_Fugly"][QUOTE="R-Dot-Yung"][QUOTE="Mr_Fugly"][QUOTE="BigDaddyPOLO"]

Not all of those games you listed are exactly "good".

For example, I just played the Eternal Sonata demo:

"WTF why am I hitting people with an umbrella... this game is stupid and generic."

Mr_Fugly

No worst then spiky haired girly boys with a sword that looks like it ways a ton

I would rather play as Cloud or Tidus than a Cel Shaded Hentai Chick with an Umbrella in a gown

just my preference though

She is a little girl so they are keeping it real a little GIRL. And the others have stronger weapons. You can not deny the fact that Eternal Sonata has great graphics and music with incredible fantasy style.

Sonata great graphics?. ES looks like a PS2 launch title but yeah it's a good game.

Ahhh yiaa yiiaaa sure PS2 OK!!! it looks way better then a PS2 game.

I have to ask, are you 10?

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]When I DL'd the HS demo there was like a half second lag from when I moved the stick to when the toon moved onscreen is it supposed to be that way?R-Dot-Yung

its not Lag its her animation for running, notice once your already running that "lag" doesnt exist