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#1 Method214
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The upcoming smartphones for 2012, will already be more powerful than consoles, and heck the google nexus prime is already capable of native 720p, somethings consoles cant do. The app store for iphone and the android marketplace is already miles ahead of PSN and XBL, aswell has having better DD games, lower costs, for better games, whos going to be buying a console, when the next gen nvidia kal el quad core smart phones hit the market early next year? 5 cores, over 1gb of ram, and a better geforce graphics card/ALU. Sony better step it up and start with their next gen phone, it was a bad move on their part to try and compete in the hand held space with just a gaming console, if they want to have any chance of being a company in the near future, they better focus more on a next gen phone, that can play sony games downloaded from their app store via DD for cheaper prices. I mean, some people will be buying games like uncharted for $40......but most will be buying better games like Infinity Blade 2 for $5 Bad move again Sony, it's like they're purposely sabotaging themselves.
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#2 peterw007
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Too bad phones don't have any buttons.

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#3 Method214
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One of the many features, that will lead to the gaming consoles demises, is the great feature of the touch UI that phones have, over handelds. Most people prefer the touch UI, over Sony's buttons.
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#4 Jynxzor
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[QUOTE="Method214"]One of the many features, that will lead to the gaming consoles demises, is the great feature of the touch UI that phones have, over handelds. Most people prefer the touch UI, over Sony's buttons.

For phones? Yeah sure good phone thing. For games? Has been prooven time and time again that millions of consumers prefer buttons and dedicated devices for their gaming needs.
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#5 r12qi
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what F.O.A?

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#7 SakusEnvoy
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The Android market is a bit overrated, tbh. Gaming on Android smartphones is still quite a bit behind the streamlined experience on iPhones. Big games on iPhone, like FF Tactics, Shantae, Scribblenauts, Ace Attorney, Infinity Blade, Chaos Rings, etc. are also easier to identify and get more attention. On top of that, App Store games often get the best deals.

I would actually take PSN/XBL over the Android market, not the App Store though.

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#8 mrmcygan
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One of the many features, that will lead to the gaming consoles demises, is the great feature of the touch UI that phones have, over handelds. Most people prefer the touch UI, over Sony's buttons.Method214

why would someone want to play a 3d animated world with a touch when they could be using sticks and buttons.

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#9 Ragnarok1051
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[QUOTE="Method214"] The only people who prefer the buttons, to the touch UI, are the hardcore nerds, who visit game sites like it's their religion. The masses, which is where the bread and butter is made, prefer the touch UI.

So why are you here then?
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#10 hippiesanta
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many of my friend who is a typical casual gamer started to realize how bad their experience playing game with their iPhone after I poison them with my psp
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#11 Jynxzor
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[QUOTE="Method214"] The masses, which is where the bread and butter is made, prefer the touch UI.

Feel free to show me the proof you have that the "Mass market" cares only for touch UI. Sales of touch games doesn't make much of a argument as there is no other option on a phone nowdays. Unless you count Japan, where phones with buttons tend to outsell touch UI items due to the controls for the ever growing cell-phone games market in Japan.
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#12 2Chalupas
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I have practically zero interest in portable gaming in general, but that at least beats gaming on mobile phone with a touch screen. I have ZERO interest in that, and never will under any circumstances. The moment the only option becomes gaming on a mobile phone touch screen, is the exact moment I walk away from gaming for good. Fortunately that is not likely to ever happen.
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#13 Eponique
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Smartphone fanboys always eat crow whenever Media Create comes out, but they just never learn. Handhelds are more popular than ever. The Nintendo DS is the best selling system of all time and it hit its 50 millionth sale in NA this month. The PSP sold almost as much as the PS2 in Japan. The 3DS is putting on PS2-level numbers based on potential alone (there are currently no heavy hitters for the system). Handheld gaming is going nowhere.
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#14 deactivated-5e0e425ee91d8
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Better games was where you lost me.
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#15 eNT1TY
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I believe there is some sense to what the TC mentions in regards to phones eventually becoming the primary gaming device for "the masses". I know there is a growing sentiment that since mobile gaming took off the perceived value of how much a game should cost is starting to change. With some $5 apps/games approaching the robust content of more traditional console games a $59.99 title can start to become a hard sell. The phone market is evolving and steps are being made by the big players to cater to the gamer demographic as well. MS just filed to patent a modular design for new smart phones where on of the modules is similar to a traditional controller right down to face buttons and cross pad, sony has already experimented with the xperia phones (with modest success mind you) but that approach can only grow.
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#16 lbjkurono23
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inb4bashingphones wheres riku when you need him. :P
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#18 Big_Pecks
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Well, at least it's a change from "LOL 3DS SUCKS NINTENDO HATE" topics.

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#19 Zaibach
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Here we go, smart phones can do alot of things, but providing a compelling gaming experience is not one of them, even a portable experience

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#20 MushroomWig
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Most people prefer the touch UI, over Sony's buttons.Method214
No, they really don't. That's the number one complaint when it comes to phone gaming, the lack of buttons.
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#21 Mercenary848
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Yeah right, when the best you have is angry birds the competition has nothing to worry about.

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[QUOTE="Method214"] The upcoming smartphones for 2012, will already be more powerful than consoles,

They're not more powerful than current gen consoles

and heck the google nexus prime is already capable of native 720p, somethings consoles cant do.

It can display at 720p, yes, but it can't play mordern games at that resolution. Just like PS3/360 can display at 1080p, but can't play all games at 1080p

The app store for iphone and the android marketplace is already miles ahead of PSN and XBL, aswell has having better DD games, lower costs, for better games, whos going to be buying a console, when the next gen nvidia kal el quad core smart phones hit the market early next year?

Better games is subjective (I'm guessing pretty much everyone here would agree that that's absolutely wrong though), and IMO the appstores don't have nearly as many quality games

(4) cores, over 1gb of ram, and a better geforce graphics card/ALU. Sony better step it up and start with their next gen phone, it was a bad move on their part to try and compete in the hand held space with just a gaming console, if they want to have any chance of being a company in the near future, they better focus more on a next gen phone, that can play sony games downloaded from their app store via DD for cheaper prices.

The gpu in phones aren't as powerful as the ones in consoles (likewise with the cpus). Sony has already released a 'next gen' phone (xperia play). And they are trying to make a robust store in the DD market for the vita.

I mean, some people will be buying games like uncharted for $40......but most will be buying better games like Infinity Blade 2 for $5 Bad move again Sony, it's like they're purposely sabotaging themselves.

Again, bad/good, that's subjective (I'm guessing pretty much everyone here would agree that that's absolutely wrong though), but a major thing phones are missing, aside from worse graphics, is buttons. It seems like you just got it out for handhelds.

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#23 AtlasBizarre
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you can't be serious

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#24 MushroomWig
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Yeah right, when the best you have is angry birds the competition has nothing to worry about.

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Angry Birds isn't really competition, it's out on the Playstation store. So anyone could play it on their Vita if they wanted.
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#25 p4s2p0
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I had to laugh with phone ppl complaining about having to go through tons of shovelware to find good games.

Sure some ppl like phone gaming but without controls and longer games I'm not intrested

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#26 el3m2tigre
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Gaming on a phone? Hahaha, no....

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#27 nitekids2004
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...smartphones :lol:

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#28 iano-87
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I just laughed, am still laughing and will laugh some more. I will come back to tell TC when I have stopped laughing.

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#29 p3anut
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Who in their right mind will pick an on-rails game over Uncharted?

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#30 Brean24
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Who in their right mind will pick an on-rails game over Uncharted?

p3anut
There are plenty of mobile games that are open-world and have huge enviroments, like Maple Thief, Minecraft, GTA Chinatown Wars, Dungeon Hunters, Dungeon Lords etc.
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#31 iano-87
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[QUOTE="p3anut"]

Who in their right mind will pick an on-rails game over Uncharted?

Brean24

There are plenty of mobile games that are open-world and have huge enviroments, like Maple Thief, Minecraft, GTA Chinatown Wars, Dungeon Hunters, Dungeon Lords etc.

You need to read the original post. Infinity blade is an on rails game.

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#32 Videodogg
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Play what you want, but i will stick with my consoles and handhelds with actual controllers instead of fumbling around, smearing my fingers all over the phone screen just trying to pull off a simple move. Touch controls might have some cool limited uses in Vita games, with capacitive front and back touch controls, but they will be well supported by standard button and analog controls too, which is why Vita WINS.

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#33 Brean24
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Play what you want, but i will stick with my consoles and handhelds with actual controllers instead of fumbling around, smearing my fingers all over the phone screen just trying to pull off a simple move. Touch controls might have some cool limited uses in Vita games, with capacitive front and back touch controls, but they will be well supported by standard button and analog controls too, which is why Vita WINS.

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Touch Controls are rather intutive once you get used to them, I was horrible with a keyboard and mouse back when I was5 years old(:P) but once I used it for a little while I grew to love keyboard/mouse. The same is true for touch controls, they really arent that bad, and now that screens are getting bigger and bigger, smearing your fingers all over your phone screen will become smearing your fingers all over the bottom corners of your phone screen. :P
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#34 Bigboi500
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Play your little touch screen games all you like but I prefer deeper, more traditional handheld games thanks anyways.

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#35 Vickman178
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Dude have you seen the games on the App Store? Not even the Wii can compete with that much shovelware, and I don't care if it costs .99 cents, it's still crap! (can you use that word or do I have to censor it??Please don't ban me!!)

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#36 Elitro
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I don't need a quad core phone to play angrybirds.

I do need a platform to play jrpgs and action adventure games... especially with buttons.

If there's something that Sony has already proven by shooting themselves in the foot before is that high graphical power =/= good sales, if Vita's games are good the console will sell.

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#37 Timstuff
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With no buttons, phones will never be legit all-in-one solution for mobile entertainment.
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[QUOTE="Method214"]One of the many features, that will lead to the gaming consoles demises, is the great feature of the touch UI that phones have, over handelds. Most people prefer the touch UI, over Sony's buttons.

Nope. I've got a few different games on my iPod that use a 3D camera and I find them completely unplayable. I have rather large hands, so not only do my thumbs cover up way too much of the screen, I have a hard time finding the "center" of the "joysticks" and just end up going all crazy. Honestly, my big hands trying to game like that on an iPod makes it look like I'm rolling a cigarette or something. The only games that work on a touch UI for me are games that do tap and swipe like Infinity Blade. If handhelds stop coming with buttons I'll just not play on them.
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#39 lowkey254
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face it, some people just enjoy gaming on a dedicated "gaming" system. I personally don't want to game on a phone. By the way, phones are nowhere near as powerful as consoles or PCs.

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#40 4NGoods
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I find it comical that you created a new account to troll the forums. you must have lots of free time.
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#41 telefanatic
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a BIG LOL bro, the only game i could play on my Evo 4g that i actually like is imobsters and its so simple, i tried many gameloft games and they sucked just because of the ui controlls, if i could actually play them with buttons it would be a different story.

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#42 93BlackHawk93
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F.O.A?

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#43 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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Ahahahahahaha, no. I love my iPod Touch, and Game Dev Story is one of the greatest handheld games I have ever played, but no, just no. A touch only interface is too limited to support a full fledged complex game.
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#44 SakusEnvoy
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Ahahahahahaha, no. I love my iPod Touch, and Game Dev Story is one of the greatest handheld games I have ever played, but no, just no. A touch only interface is too limited to support a full fledged complex game.charizard1605
Did you see the Scribblenauts port that just showed up on iOS (http://wireless.ign.com/articles/120/1200048p1.html)? I gotta admit, iPhone/Touch really is absolutely killing it in terms of value-per-dollar when it actually does get a good game. They remixed both the original Scribblenauts and Super Scribblenauts together, added 10 exclusive iOS stages, improved the visuals, and refined the controls a bit.

And they released it all for $5. That's crazy! Meanwhile Nintendo asks the same price for Gameboy ports. There is something seriously wrong with one of these two pricing models -- either handheld's, or iOS's, but I find myself liking iOS's a whole lot more. Physical buttons just are not worth the kind of premium being charged on some of these games.

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#45 deactivated-6040149309c71
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Ahahahahahaha, no. I love my iPod Touch, and Game Dev Story is one of the greatest handheld games I have ever played, but no, just no. A touch only interface is too limited to support a full fledged complex game.charizard1605

Kairosoft makes great games for mobile. Apart ftom them, there isn't many games that i find overly great on mobile.

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#46 LegatoSkyheart
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oh I'm sorry, I couldn't hear you talking about how cool smart phones are over The Legend of Zelda.

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#47 HaloPimp978
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Doesn't matter consoles are entertainment devices, I will be sticking with my console and my control not with these mobile phones.