So....sony is the 1st company to ever really compete with nintendo in handhelds.

world wide sales: PSP: 24.7 million

world wide sales: DS: 36.8 million

Yes......DS sales lead PSP sales, by 50% (about) of the PSP sales. But the PSP has been the 1st handheld which was able to successfully compete with nintendo in the hand-held game. Now....I'm guessing that the DS number will grow with the release of pokemon diamond/pearl. But the PSP has given nintendo 1 hell of a run, and still is. Sony still has some PSP killer apps to unleash....like god of war for the PSP, among others.

I really think that sony is the best game company....Im no cow, in fact I own a 360 (though...in all fairness I am selling it, and getting a PS3 for my birthday in may-july[depending on when we celebrate].

PS1 was sony's 1st console, and their 1st time in the console business. It was nintendo's 3rd. And it was sega's 5th. BAM, sony comes in and kicks their asses in sales.

Dreamcast sales: 10.6 million

N64 sales: 32.93 million

PS1 sales: 102.49 million.....and the 1st console ever to reach over 100 million units sold. About 3x the N64 sales. And about 9.66x better than the dreamcast sales.

the "newb" sony just swoops in and kicks everyone's ass. Gran Turismo on the PS1 was the 10th ranked, most sold game in history......selling 11 million copies (rounded).

And now we have the PSP.....everyone else has fallen before nintendo's sword in the hand-held business....sony may have not won (and isn't going to by this trend) the war......but did amazing for the 1st time. the PSP has about 66-67% of the DS sales....no one has ever been that close to nintendo before.

I really think that sony does know what they are doing. Yes....they may have had some bad PR....made some mistakes....could have done this better....but I really think that sony will be able to turn the tables on everyone, and come out the winner this gen.

They've built up their 1st party titles to make it very strong. They also have some companies.....which aren't 1st party.....but won't release their games on any other console, such as insomniac, level 5, atlus, and suckerpunch. Their 3rd party support may have taken some beatings recently.....but I believe it will return once the PS3 starts picking up steam.

"PS1 was sony's 1st console, and their 1st time in the console business. It was nintendo's 3rd. And it was sega's 5th."
um.. sega and nintendo didnt make a PS1...1stCommando

Sega Saturn (Yes, Sega made a handheld) competed with Nintendo GameBoy and it was the first 16bit handheld. The Saturn was light years ahead of the Gameboy, it had color but it also uses four AA batteries. NeoGeo did decent in Hawaii and Japan, I'm not sure if it sold any good in North America. But yeah, the Saturn lasted for years but then Sega pull the plug and Sega dropped out of the handheld business forever.Click_Clock

Sega Saturn (Yes, Sega made a handheld) competed with Nintendo GameBoy and it was the first 16bit handheld. The Saturn was light years ahead of the Gameboy, it had color but it also uses four AA batteries. NeoGeo did decent in Hawaii and Japan, I'm not sure if it sold any good in North America. But yeah, the Saturn lasted for years but then Sega pull the plug and Sega dropped out of the handheld business forever.Click_Clock

[QUOTE="Click_Clock"]Sega Saturn (Yes, Sega made a handheld) competed with Nintendo GameBoy and it was the first 16bit handheld. The Saturn was light years ahead of the Gameboy, it had color but it also uses four AA batteries. NeoGeo did decent in Hawaii and Japan, I'm not sure if it sold any good in North America. But yeah, the Saturn lasted for years but then Sega pull the plug and Sega dropped out of the handheld business forever.1stCommando

[QUOTE="Click_Clock"]Sega Saturn (Yes, Sega made a handheld) competed with Nintendo GameBoy and it was the first 16bit handheld. The Saturn was light years ahead of the Gameboy, it had color but it also uses four AA batteries. NeoGeo did decent in Hawaii and Japan, I'm not sure if it sold any good in North America. But yeah, the Saturn lasted for years but then Sega pull the plug and Sega dropped out of the handheld business forever.1stCommando

Sega Saturn (Yes, Sega made a handheld) competed with Nintendo GameBoy and it was the first 16bit handheld. The Saturn was light years ahead of the Gameboy, it had color but it also uses four AA batteries. NeoGeo did decent in Hawaii and Japan, I'm not sure if it sold any good in North America. But yeah, the Saturn lasted for years but then Sega pull the plug and Sega dropped out of the handheld business forever.Click_Clock

[QUOTE="1stCommando"][QUOTE="Click_Clock"]Sega Saturn (Yes, Sega made a handheld) competed with Nintendo GameBoy and it was the first 16bit handheld. The Saturn was light years ahead of the Gameboy, it had color but it also uses four AA batteries. NeoGeo did decent in Hawaii and Japan, I'm not sure if it sold any good in North America. But yeah, the Saturn lasted for years but then Sega pull the plug and Sega dropped out of the handheld business forever.Infinatey

Sega Saturn (Yes, Sega made a handheld) competed with Nintendo GameBoy and it was the first 16bit handheld. The Saturn was light years ahead of the Gameboy, it had color but it also uses four AA batteries. NeoGeo did decent in Hawaii and Japan, I'm not sure if it sold any good in North America. But yeah, the Saturn lasted for years but then Sega pull the plug and Sega dropped out of the handheld business forever.Click_Clock

Still, good point. The Game Gear did very well hanging with the GameBoy in the North American and European markets. 

[QUOTE="1stCommando"][QUOTE="Click_Clock"]Sega Saturn (Yes, Sega made a handheld) competed with Nintendo GameBoy and it was the first 16bit handheld. The Saturn was light years ahead of the Gameboy, it had color but it also uses four AA batteries. NeoGeo did decent in Hawaii and Japan, I'm not sure if it sold any good in North America. But yeah, the Saturn lasted for years but then Sega pull the plug and Sega dropped out of the handheld business forever.Click_Clock

[QUOTE="Infinatey"][QUOTE="1stCommando"][QUOTE="Click_Clock"]Sega Saturn (Yes, Sega made a handheld) competed with Nintendo GameBoy and it was the first 16bit handheld. The Saturn was light years ahead of the Gameboy, it had color but it also uses four AA batteries. NeoGeo did decent in Hawaii and Japan, I'm not sure if it sold any good in North America. But yeah, the Saturn lasted for years but then Sega pull the plug and Sega dropped out of the handheld business forever.1stCommando

This is the Game Gear.  And yes I just checked it took 6 AA batteries.  I remember always looking around to find enough batteries to even play the dumb thing. 

world wide sales: PSP: 24.7 million

world wide sales: DS: 36.8 million

Yes......DS sales lead PSP sales, by 50% (about) of the PSP sales. But the PSP has been the 1st handheld which was able to successfully compete with nintendo in the hand-held game. Now....I'm guessing that the DS number will grow with the release of pokemon diamond/pearl. But the PSP has given nintendo 1 hell of a run, and still is. Sony still has some PSP killer apps to unleash....like god of war for the PSP, among others.

I really think that sony is the best game company....Im no cow, in fact I own a 360 (though...in all fairness I am selling it, and getting a PS3 for my birthday in may-july[depending on when we celebrate].

PS1 was sony's 1st console, and their 1st time in the console business. It was nintendo's 3rd. And it was sega's 5th. BAM, sony comes in and kicks their asses in sales.

Dreamcast sales: 10.6 million

N64 sales: 32.93 million

PS1 sales: 102.49 million.....and the 1st console ever to reach over 100 million units sold. About 3x the N64 sales. And about 9.66x better than the dreamcast sales.

the "newb" sony just swoops in and kicks everyone's ass. Gran Turismo on the PS1 was the 10th ranked, most sold game in history......selling 11 million copies (rounded).

And now we have the PSP.....everyone else has fallen before nintendo's sword in the hand-held business....sony may have not won (and isn't going to by this trend) the war......but did amazing for the 1st time. the PSP has about 66-67% of the DS sales....no one has ever been that close to nintendo before.

I really think that sony does know what they are doing. Yes....they may have had some bad PR....made some mistakes....could have done this better....but I really think that sony will be able to turn the tables on everyone, and come out the winner this gen.

They've built up their 1st party titles to make it very strong. They also have some companies.....which aren't 1st party.....but won't release their games on any other console, such as insomniac, level 5, atlus, and suckerpunch. Their 3rd party support may have taken some beatings recently.....but I believe it will return once the PS3 starts picking up steam.

 

Infinatey

Get the numbers right fanboy

PSP just hit around 20 million

the N64 sold around 40 million

And so what if Sony sold more than the Game Gear?

The PSP is a failure sales-wise because it isn't anywhere near the DS. The DS is better than it, and sales show at 38 million plus not 36.7 million sir.

Just because they take up a larger portion on SUCK than other handhelds in the past is suppose to be a good thing?

Last time I checked when a competitor mops the floor with you in sales, that means your product either A. Sucks or B. Isn't bad just not as good as the product outselling it.

[QUOTE="1stCommando"][QUOTE="Infinatey"][QUOTE="1stCommando"][QUOTE="Click_Clock"]Sega Saturn (Yes, Sega made a handheld) competed with Nintendo GameBoy and it was the first 16bit handheld. The Saturn was light years ahead of the Gameboy, it had color but it also uses four AA batteries. NeoGeo did decent in Hawaii and Japan, I'm not sure if it sold any good in North America. But yeah, the Saturn lasted for years but then Sega pull the plug and Sega dropped out of the handheld business forever.Infinatey

Well Sega did compete with Nintendo in handhelds, Sony has gotten the closest to Nintendo's sales though.

Sega Saturn (Yes, Sega made a handheld) competed with Nintendo GameBoy and it was the first 16bit handheld. The Saturn was light years ahead of the Gameboy, it had color but it also uses four AA batteries. NeoGeo did decent in Hawaii and Japan, I'm not sure if it sold any good in North America. But yeah, the Saturn lasted for years but then Sega pull the plug and Sega dropped out of the handheld business forever.Click_Clock

world wide sales: PSP: 24.7 million

world wide sales: DS: 36.8 million

Yes......DS sales lead PSP sales, by 50% (about) of the PSP sales. But the PSP has been the 1st handheld which was able to successfully compete with nintendo in the hand-held game. Now....I'm guessing that the DS number will grow with the release of pokemon diamond/pearl. But the PSP has given nintendo 1 hell of a run, and still is. Sony still has some PSP killer apps to unleash....like god of war for the PSP, among others.

I really think that sony is the best game company....Im no cow, in fact I own a 360 (though...in all fairness I am selling it, and getting a PS3 for my birthday in may-july[depending on when we celebrate].

PS1 was sony's 1st console, and their 1st time in the console business. It was nintendo's 3rd. And it was sega's 5th. BAM, sony comes in and kicks their asses in sales.

Dreamcast sales: 10.6 million

N64 sales: 32.93 million

PS1 sales: 102.49 million.....and the 1st console ever to reach over 100 million units sold. About 3x the N64 sales. And about 9.66x better than the dreamcast sales.

the "newb" sony just swoops in and kicks everyone's ass. Gran Turismo on the PS1 was the 10th ranked, most sold game in history......selling 11 million copies (rounded).

And now we have the PSP.....everyone else has fallen before nintendo's sword in the hand-held business....sony may have not won (and isn't going to by this trend) the war......but did amazing for the 1st time. the PSP has about 66-67% of the DS sales....no one has ever been that close to nintendo before.

I really think that sony does know what they are doing. Yes....they may have had some bad PR....made some mistakes....could have done this better....but I really think that sony will be able to turn the tables on everyone, and come out the winner this gen.

They've built up their 1st party titles to make it very strong. They also have some companies.....which aren't 1st party.....but won't release their games on any other console, such as insomniac, level 5, atlus, and suckerpunch. Their 3rd party support may have taken some beatings recently.....but I believe it will return once the PS3 starts picking up steam.

 

Infinatey

[QUOTE="Infinatey"]

world wide sales: PSP: 24.7 million

world wide sales: DS: 36.8 million

Yes......DS sales lead PSP sales, by 50% (about) of the PSP sales. But the PSP has been the 1st handheld which was able to successfully compete with nintendo in the hand-held game. Now....I'm guessing that the DS number will grow with the release of pokemon diamond/pearl. But the PSP has given nintendo 1 hell of a run, and still is. Sony still has some PSP killer apps to unleash....like god of war for the PSP, among others.

I really think that sony is the best game company....Im no cow, in fact I own a 360 (though...in all fairness I am selling it, and getting a PS3 for my birthday in may-july[depending on when we celebrate].

PS1 was sony's 1st console, and their 1st time in the console business. It was nintendo's 3rd. And it was sega's 5th. BAM, sony comes in and kicks their asses in sales.

Dreamcast sales: 10.6 million

N64 sales: 32.93 million

PS1 sales: 102.49 million.....and the 1st console ever to reach over 100 million units sold. About 3x the N64 sales. And about 9.66x better than the dreamcast sales.

the "newb" sony just swoops in and kicks everyone's ass. Gran Turismo on the PS1 was the 10th ranked, most sold game in history......selling 11 million copies (rounded).

And now we have the PSP.....everyone else has fallen before nintendo's sword in the hand-held business....sony may have not won (and isn't going to by this trend) the war......but did amazing for the 1st time. the PSP has about 66-67% of the DS sales....no one has ever been that close to nintendo before.

I really think that sony does know what they are doing. Yes....they may have had some bad PR....made some mistakes....could have done this better....but I really think that sony will be able to turn the tables on everyone, and come out the winner this gen.

They've built up their 1st party titles to make it very strong. They also have some companies.....which aren't 1st party.....but won't release their games on any other console, such as insomniac, level 5, atlus, and suckerpunch. Their 3rd party support may have taken some beatings recently.....but I believe it will return once the PS3 starts picking up steam.

 

axt113

[QUOTE="1stCommando"]"PS1 was sony's 1st console, and their 1st time in the console business. It was nintendo's 3rd. And it was sega's 5th."
um.. sega and nintendo didnt make a PS1...Infinatey

[QUOTE="Infinatey"]

world wide sales: PSP: 24.7 million

world wide sales: DS: 36.8 million

Yes......DS sales lead PSP sales, by 50% (about) of the PSP sales. But the PSP has been the 1st handheld which was able to successfully compete with nintendo in the hand-held game. Now....I'm guessing that the DS number will grow with the release of pokemon diamond/pearl. But the PSP has given nintendo 1 hell of a run, and still is. Sony still has some PSP killer apps to unleash....like god of war for the PSP, among others.

I really think that sony is the best game company....Im no cow, in fact I own a 360 (though...in all fairness I am selling it, and getting a PS3 for my birthday in may-july[depending on when we celebrate].

PS1 was sony's 1st console, and their 1st time in the console business. It was nintendo's 3rd. And it was sega's 5th. BAM, sony comes in and kicks their asses in sales.

Dreamcast sales: 10.6 million

N64 sales: 32.93 million

PS1 sales: 102.49 million.....and the 1st console ever to reach over 100 million units sold. About 3x the N64 sales. And about 9.66x better than the dreamcast sales.

the "newb" sony just swoops in and kicks everyone's ass. Gran Turismo on the PS1 was the 10th ranked, most sold game in history......selling 11 million copies (rounded).

And now we have the PSP.....everyone else has fallen before nintendo's sword in the hand-held business....sony may have not won (and isn't going to by this trend) the war......but did amazing for the 1st time. the PSP has about 66-67% of the DS sales....no one has ever been that close to nintendo before.

I really think that sony does know what they are doing. Yes....they may have had some bad PR....made some mistakes....could have done this better....but I really think that sony will be able to turn the tables on everyone, and come out the winner this gen.

They've built up their 1st party titles to make it very strong. They also have some companies.....which aren't 1st party.....but won't release their games on any other console, such as insomniac, level 5, atlus, and suckerpunch. Their 3rd party support may have taken some beatings recently.....but I believe it will return once the PS3 starts picking up steam.

 

darth-pyschosis

Get the numbers right fanboy

PSP just hit around 20 million

the N64 sold around 40 million

And so what if Sony sold more than the Game Gear?

The PSP is a failure sales-wise because it isn't anywhere near the DS. The DS is better than it, and sales show at 38 million plus not 36.7 million sir.

Just because they take up a larger portion on SUCK than other handhelds in the past is suppose to be a good thing?

Last time I checked when a competitor mops the floor with you in sales, that means your product either A. Sucks or B. Isn't bad just not as good as the product outselling it.

I think the PSP is underrated. I love the PSP and the DS.

Sony has done well with the PSP they just need to put more focus on games and less on multimedia.

[QUOTE="darth-pyschosis"][QUOTE="Infinatey"]

world wide sales: PSP: 24.7 million

world wide sales: DS: 36.8 million

Yes......DS sales lead PSP sales, by 50% (about) of the PSP sales. But the PSP has been the 1st handheld which was able to successfully compete with nintendo in the hand-held game. Now....I'm guessing that the DS number will grow with the release of pokemon diamond/pearl. But the PSP has given nintendo 1 hell of a run, and still is. Sony still has some PSP killer apps to unleash....like god of war for the PSP, among others.

I really think that sony is the best game company....Im no cow, in fact I own a 360 (though...in all fairness I am selling it, and getting a PS3 for my birthday in may-july[depending on when we celebrate].

PS1 was sony's 1st console, and their 1st time in the console business. It was nintendo's 3rd. And it was sega's 5th. BAM, sony comes in and kicks their asses in sales.

Dreamcast sales: 10.6 million

N64 sales: 32.93 million

PS1 sales: 102.49 million.....and the 1st console ever to reach over 100 million units sold. About 3x the N64 sales. And about 9.66x better than the dreamcast sales.

the "newb" sony just swoops in and kicks everyone's ass. Gran Turismo on the PS1 was the 10th ranked, most sold game in history......selling 11 million copies (rounded).

And now we have the PSP.....everyone else has fallen before nintendo's sword in the hand-held business....sony may have not won (and isn't going to by this trend) the war......but did amazing for the 1st time. the PSP has about 66-67% of the DS sales....no one has ever been that close to nintendo before.

I really think that sony does know what they are doing. Yes....they may have had some bad PR....made some mistakes....could have done this better....but I really think that sony will be able to turn the tables on everyone, and come out the winner this gen.

They've built up their 1st party titles to make it very strong. They also have some companies.....which aren't 1st party.....but won't release their games on any other console, such as insomniac, level 5, atlus, and suckerpunch. Their 3rd party support may have taken some beatings recently.....but I believe it will return once the PS3 starts picking up steam.

da1on2

Get the numbers right fanboy

PSP just hit around 20 million

the N64 sold around 40 million

And so what if Sony sold more than the Game Gear?

The PSP is a failure sales-wise because it isn't anywhere near the DS. The DS is better than it, and sales show at 38 million plus not 36.7 million sir.

Just because they take up a larger portion on SUCK than other handhelds in the past is suppose to be a good thing?

Last time I checked when a competitor mops the floor with you in sales, that means your product either A. Sucks or B. Isn't bad just not as good as the product outselling it.

I think the PSP is underrated. I love the PSP and the DS.

Sony has done well with the PSP they just need to put more focus on games and less on multimedia.

mojito1988

I agree.

PSP could have been so much better...

but all tthings considered it has sold rather well.

20 M in 2 years is damn good. it will probably sell around 70 M by the time it's done selling.

Which is GREAT for sonys first handheld. 

There have been a lot of "attempts" at the handheld market. But they've all failed. The PSP, in my opinion, will as well. It's slick, it's powerful, but the extras it offers are already done by other handheld machines. If I want music, I'll buy an iPod, not a PSP.

But hey, they are nice bonuses. Still, not going to beat the DS. As apparent by sales numbers.THEWINDWAKER10

the psp has already proven it will not be a failure...

how is 20 M sold in 2 years a failure? 

[QUOTE="mojito1988"]

I think the PSP is underrated. I love the PSP and the DS.

Sony has done well with the PSP they just need to put more focus on games and less on multimedia.

Trading_Zoner

I agree.

PSP could have been so much better...

but all tthings considered it has sold rather well.

20 M in 2 years is damn good. it will probably sell around 70 M by the time it's done selling.

Which is GREAT for sonys first handheld. 

Man you got some pretty lofty expectations.....Expect it to level off at around 40 million....

[QUOTE="1stCommando"][QUOTE="Click_Clock"]Sega Saturn (Yes, Sega made a handheld) competed with Nintendo GameBoy and it was the first 16bit handheld. The Saturn was light years ahead of the Gameboy, it had color but it also uses four AA batteries. NeoGeo did decent in Hawaii and Japan, I'm not sure if it sold any good in North America. But yeah, the Saturn lasted for years but then Sega pull the plug and Sega dropped out of the handheld business forever.Click_Clock

[QUOTE="Trading_Zoner"][QUOTE="mojito1988"]

I think the PSP is underrated. I love the PSP and the DS.

Sony has done well with the PSP they just need to put more focus on games and less on multimedia.

MasterChumly

I agree.

PSP could have been so much better...

but all tthings considered it has sold rather well.

20 M in 2 years is damn good. it will probably sell around 70 M by the time it's done selling.

Which is GREAT for sonys first handheld.

Man you got some pretty lofty expectations.....Expect it to level off at around 40 million....

I think it will last for around 8 years on the market.

10M a year  until the end of it's lifetime when it sells less.

That sounds about right to me. Just a quick little guess though. 

[QUOTE="1stCommando"][QUOTE="Click_Clock"]Sega Saturn (Yes, Sega made a handheld) competed with Nintendo GameBoy and it was the first 16bit handheld. The Saturn was light years ahead of the Gameboy, it had color but it also uses four AA batteries. NeoGeo did decent in Hawaii and Japan, I'm not sure if it sold any good in North America. But yeah, the Saturn lasted for years but then Sega pull the plug and Sega dropped out of the handheld business forever.Click_Clock

the sega hand held was called a gamegear

this was the saturn

[QUOTE="mojito1988"]

I think the PSP is underrated. I love the PSP and the DS.

Sony has done well with the PSP they just need to put more focus on games and less on multimedia.

Trading_Zoner

I agree.

PSP could have been so much better...

but all tthings considered it has sold rather well.

20 M in 2 years is damn good. it will probably sell around 70 M by the time it's done selling.

Which is GREAT for sonys first handheld.

[QUOTE="Click_Clock"][QUOTE="1stCommando"][QUOTE="Click_Clock"]Sega Saturn (Yes, Sega made a handheld) competed with Nintendo GameBoy and it was the first 16bit handheld. The Saturn was light years ahead of the Gameboy, it had color but it also uses four AA batteries. NeoGeo did decent in Hawaii and Japan, I'm not sure if it sold any good in North America. But yeah, the Saturn lasted for years but then Sega pull the plug and Sega dropped out of the handheld business forever.Bandit_Haze

the sega hand held was called a gamegear

this was the saturn

[QUOTE="MasterChumly"][QUOTE="Trading_Zoner"][QUOTE="mojito1988"]

I think the PSP is underrated. I love the PSP and the DS.

Sony has done well with the PSP they just need to put more focus on games and less on multimedia.

Trading_Zoner

I agree.

PSP could have been so much better...

but all tthings considered it has sold rather well.

20 M in 2 years is damn good. it will probably sell around 70 M by the time it's done selling.

Which is GREAT for sonys first handheld.

Man you got some pretty lofty expectations.....Expect it to level off at around 40 million....

I think it will last for around 8 years on the market.

10M a year  until the end of it's lifetime when it sells less.

That sounds about right to me. Just a quick little guess though. 

Well I was just thinking in terms of market saturation because I dont see how its possible for the DS to sell 100+ million (Its easily on track) and the psp to sell 70 million.  That would be more handheld consoles sold than the entire last generation of home consoles or handheld for that matter.