So...the conduit...what are you guys thinking so far?

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#1 duble_Needler23
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I wasn't impressed with the initial showings....but the hands on from IGN sounds like the game could be potentially good, or from the way they make it sound, great. I'm impressed with the graphics for a Wii game, even though the environments aren't too impressive looking. The controls, apparently are very good.

Predictions and opinions so far?

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#2 JLF1
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It looks like it could be a good game but I don't think it deserves all the hype the sheep are giving it.
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#3 stepat201
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Looks last gen,but then again it is on the wii which has last gen hardware,so I guess it makes sense.
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#4 deactivated-586249e1b64ba
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It's a nice break from slower-paced shooters.
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#5 TecmoGirl
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I want to like it, I honestly do. It just doesn't seem to stand out as anything special too me or all that enticing when I see other games like "Far Cry 2", "Killzone 2", and "Resistance 2". But it's obviously one of those games that clearly has to be played to really form a meaningful opinion on the game itself.
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#6 ONLYDOD
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Looks like it could be an intresting and decent FPS for the Wii.
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#7 InsaneBasura
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All IGN was talking about was the controls and how the graphics are fantastic for a Wii game. Takes a bit more than that for me to get excited about yet another shooter. Designwise this seems to be in the vein of games like Blacksite: Area 51 and Prey (only without the cool gravity n portals). Decent, silly sci-fi FPS's basically. I have not seen anything to convince me The Conduit will transcend those sort of games. Looks alright and the movement is indeed smooth, but it's not something I'd be interested in.

But oh well, good thing High Voltage is trying at least. Hopefully it'll result in more developers doing the same.

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Might be a good looking Wii game, but the art direction is still horrible.
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#9 skrat_01
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Average, run of the mill, fps game design.

Nice visuals for the Wii.

Thats it.

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#10 Mastergamer27
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I Just Hope it has solid online muiliplayer;)
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#11 Sgt_Crow
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Looks last gen,but then again it is on the wii which has last gen hardware,so I guess it makes sense.stepat201

Yes, we know.
Fanboys who keep repeating this make just as much sense though.

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#12 Teuf_
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It looks like the only reason people know it exists is because it's a console that almost completely lacks shooters. Kinda like that game "Geist" for the GameCube.
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#13 air_wolf_cubed
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Are you kidding me? I'm the conducter on the Hype Train :D
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#14 JLF1
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Are you kidding me? I'm the conducter on the Hype Train :Dair_wolf_cubed

Can you give any reasons why they game should be hyped besides the graphics?
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It looks like the only reason people know it exists is because it's a console that almost completely lacks shooters. Kinda like that game "Geist" for the GameCube.Teufelhuhn

At least Geist had a cool concept.

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#16 air_wolf_cubed
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[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"]Are you kidding me? I'm the conducter on the Hype Train :DJLF1

Can you give any reasons why they game should be hyped besides the graphics?

It reminds me of Perfect Dark, my favorite shooter, the ASE seems interesting, 16 player online + voice chat, not made by Ubisoft, dev made an engine just to make this game: thats dedication right there
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#17 JLF1
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[QUOTE="JLF1"][QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"]Are you kidding me? I'm the conducter on the Hype Train :Dair_wolf_cubed

Can you give any reasons why they game should be hyped besides the graphics?

It reminds me of Perfect Dark, my favorite shooter, the ASE seems interesting, 16 player online + voice chat, not made by Ubisoft, dev made an engine just to make this game: thats dedication right there


Haze had dedication.

EDIT: Why do you mention Ubisoft? They are only doing what Nintendo is doing on the Wii.
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#18 air_wolf_cubed
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[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="JLF1"][QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"]Are you kidding me? I'm the conducter on the Hype Train :DJLF1

Can you give any reasons why they game should be hyped besides the graphics?

It reminds me of Perfect Dark, my favorite shooter, the ASE seems interesting, 16 player online + voice chat, not made by Ubisoft, dev made an engine just to make this game: thats dedication right there


Haze had dedication.

i dont care?
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#19 InsaneBasura
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[QUOTE="JLF1"][QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"]Are you kidding me? I'm the conducter on the Hype Train :Dair_wolf_cubed

Can you give any reasons why they game should be hyped besides the graphics?

It reminds me of Perfect Dark, my favorite shooter, the ASE seems interesting, 16 player online + voice chat, not made by Ubisoft, dev made an engine just to make this game: thats dedication right there

Where on earth did that giftube gif in your sig come from?

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#20 air_wolf_cubed
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[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="JLF1"][QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"]Are you kidding me? I'm the conducter on the Hype Train :DInsaneBasura


Can you give any reasons why they game should be hyped besides the graphics?

It reminds me of Perfect Dark, my favorite shooter, the ASE seems interesting, 16 player online + voice chat, not made by Ubisoft, dev made an engine just to make this game: thats dedication right there

Where on earth did that giftube gif in your sig come from?

giftube.com silly face
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EDIT: Why do you mention Ubisoft? They are only doing what Nintendo is doing on the Wii.JLF1

No. They are trying to imitate what Nintendo is doing with the Wii, but failing... hard.

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#22 air_wolf_cubed
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EDIT: Why do you mention Ubisoft? They are only doing what Nintendo is doing on the Wii.JLF1
I dont want it to turn out like these

*shivers*

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#23 Pinkyimp
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[QUOTE="JLF1"]
EDIT: Why do you mention Ubisoft? They are only doing what Nintendo is doing on the Wii.Haziqonfire

No. They are trying to imitate what Nintendo is doing with the Wii, but failing... hard.

you mean with PETZ, CatZ, and BabieZ (why the Z's?) and now the Prince of persia (looks ok.)

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#24 DivergeUnify
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I'll wait till it comes out. It looks pretty aveage and in terms of visuals, I think Metroid Prime 3 looks much better
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#25 InsaneBasura
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[QUOTE="InsaneBasura"]

[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="JLF1"][QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"]Are you kidding me? I'm the conducter on the Hype Train :Dair_wolf_cubed


Can you give any reasons why they game should be hyped besides the graphics?

It reminds me of Perfect Dark, my favorite shooter, the ASE seems interesting, 16 player online + voice chat, not made by Ubisoft, dev made an engine just to make this game: thats dedication right there

Where on earth did that giftube gif in your sig come from?

giftube.com silly face

I knew you'd say that, you cheeky so and so. What show or whatnot is the imagery contained in thee gif taken befrometh?

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#26 air_wolf_cubed
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I knew you'd say that, you cheeky so and so. What show or whatnot is the imagery contained in thee gif taken befrometh? InsaneBasura
I have no idea. I should go to Japan and ask aout it :D
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I'll wait till it comes out. It looks pretty aveage and in terms of visuals, I think Metroid Prime 3 looks much betterDivergeUnify

It seems to look average because the art direction suck's compared to Prime 3.

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#28 PecansAreNuts
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Personally, I'm just going to wait for the reviews before I form an opinion.
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The Conduit will flop hard, both from a critical stand point and a sales stand point.

A: If anyone has another system they can defenatly find better graphics and gameplay even.

B:High Voltage has a bad track record of shooters and action games, last game was Americas Army True Soilders, and they also do the Tom Clancy Ports for PSP which look good but dont play very well.

C:Short development cycle and low budget. Certainly not deciding outcomes of a bad game but are factors that dont tilt it in it's favor.

D: it looks bad to be honost. The Wii is slightly stronger than the original Xbox yet the original Xbox games certainly look better than this.

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#30 jethrovegas
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I think it looks like trash.
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[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"]I'll wait till it comes out. It looks pretty aveage and in terms of visuals, I think Metroid Prime 3 looks much betterHaziqonfire

It seems to look average because the art direction suck's compared to Prime 3.

No I said it looks average(in terms of gameplay) and it's visuals suck compared to Prime 3
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#32 KungfuKitten
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Well it could be the first decent online FPS game on the Wii, with WiiSpeak. That's worthy of some attention.
I'm not completely convinced yet.
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#33 haziqonfire
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[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]

[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"]I'll wait till it comes out. It looks pretty aveage and in terms of visuals, I think Metroid Prime 3 looks much betterDivergeUnify

It seems to look average because the art direction suck's compared to Prime 3.

No I said it looks average(in terms of gameplay) and it's visuals suck compared to Prime 3

Oh. Well yeah, it does. High Voltage Software is taking from a lot of other FPS and making its own -- The only really cool thing I like about the game is one gun where you shoot a grenade and you can control it with the IR pointer.

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#34 finalfantasy94
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Well for the wii its a big deal. Its show other lazy devs that you can have a great looking wii game,but it also plays great.
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#35 Lto_thaG
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I don't like it one bit...a rental,maybe
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[QUOTE="InsaneBasura"]I knew you'd say that, you cheeky so and so. What show or whatnot is the imagery contained in thee gif taken befrometh? air_wolf_cubed
I have no idea. I should go to Japan and ask aout it :D

I'll tell you. It's Wolfs Rain.

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#37 heretrix
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I think that after seeing in motion, that it looks pretty good. Too bad I'll never play it. But I hope it's good.
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Cannot really be compared to high profile games such as S.T.A.L.K.E.R Clear Sky or Far Cry 2.

Looks mediocre tbh.

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Cannot really be compared to high profile games such as S.T.A.L.K.E.R Clear Sky or Far Cry 2.

Looks mediocre tbh.

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Well yeah. Look at what you are comparing it to. But compared to Red Steel? It looks pretty solid.
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The Conduit will flop hard, both from a critical stand point and a sales stand point.

A: If anyone has another system they can defenatly find better graphics and gameplay even.

Exactly - IF. Not everyone can afford multiple systems, and not everyone likes the same games. We dont know enough about the gameplay at the moment. But at least High Voltage are trying to give the few hardcore gamers that have a Wii what they have been asking for - a game that actually pushes the hardware. The voice chat is something else ive seen people on the Wii forums moan about, which we now have. Yet, shock horror, people STILL are not happy? Your average hardcore gamer really - they cry and cry about something being missing and when they get it they still arent happy. If Nintendo announced optional HD support tomorrow or a hard drive then people would still complain.

B:High Voltage has a bad track record of shooters and action games, last game was Americas Army True Soilders, and they also do the Tom Clancy Ports for PSP which look good but dont play very well.

They had a back track record because of publishers. They would be doing well and a publisher would start interfering. Thats why they held off on a publisher and will continue to do so until its closer to release.

C:Short development cycle and low budget. Certainly not deciding outcomes of a bad game but are factors that dont tilt it in it's favor.

Well, youve already admitted that low budget is not definitely gonna hinder it. Sometimes as well you get high budget games with high production values like Lair that are just awful.

D: it looks bad to be honost. The Wii is slightly stronger than the original Xbox yet the original Xbox games certainly look better than this.

It doesnt look bad though. It looks good. It just doesnt look like a 360 or PS3 game. You also have to take the framerate into consideration. They still have to try and balance the framerate with the visuals. They could make it look better than an xbox game, but it could give them trouble with the framerate.

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#41 PullTheTricker
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[QUOTE="PullTheTricker"]

Cannot really be compared to high profile games such as S.T.A.L.K.E.R Clear Sky or Far Cry 2.

Looks mediocre tbh.

heretrix

Well yeah. Look at what you are comparing it to. But compared to Red Steel? It looks pretty solid.

No, I tend to be harsh. I'm not going to give Nintendo's console ''special treatment'' just because they decided to go with low tech.

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#42 insanejedi
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[QUOTE="insanejedi"]

The Conduit will flop hard, both from a critical stand point and a sales stand point.

A: If anyone has another system they can defenatly find better graphics and gameplay even.

Exactly - IF. Not everyone can afford multiple systems, and not everyone likes the same games. We dont know enough about the gameplay at the moment. But at least High Voltage are trying to give the few hardcore gamers that have a Wii what they have been asking for - a game that actually pushes the hardware. The voice chat is something else ive seen people on the Wii forums moan about, which we now have. Yet, shock horror, people STILL are not happy? Your average hardcore gamer really - they cry and cry about something being missing and when they get it they still arent happy. If Nintendo announced optional HD support tomorrow or a hard drive then people would still complain.

How many people though exclusively own a wii that are not the casual fans who are only playing Wii Sports and Wii Fit? Dont kid your self, the Conduit is a game that appeals to the Hardcore and the Hardcore usually owns more than one console, so logically why would you ever buy this game?

B:High Voltage has a bad track record of shooters and action games, last game was Americas Army True Soilders, and they also do the Tom Clancy Ports for PSP which look good but dont play very well.

They had a back track record because of publishers. They would be doing well and a publisher would start interfering. Thats why they held off on a publisher and will continue to do so until its closer to release.

What proof do you have of this? And all of their other games have been dirived from multiple publishers. Capcom, 2K, Activision, Vivendi (when they were seperate), Midway, Interplay, Atari. Yet they all haven't been great games.

C:Short development cycle and low budget. Certainly not deciding outcomes of a bad game but are factors that dont tilt it in it's favor.

Well, youve already admitted that low budget is not definitely gonna hinder it. Sometimes as well you get high budget games with high production values like Lair that are just awful.

No It will hinder it but it wont be a defnitive symptom of a bad game. A high budget helps the chances of a game being good while a low budget makes the chances low.

D: it looks bad to be honost. The Wii is slightly stronger than the original Xbox yet the original Xbox games certainly look better than this.

It doesnt look bad though. It looks good. It just doesnt look like a 360 or PS3 game. You also have to take the framerate into consideration. They still have to try and balance the framerate with the visuals. They could make it look better than an xbox game, but it could give them trouble with the framerate.

Ninja Gaiden for the Xbox? That looked fantastic and still had a good framerate, even today it looks like an early Xbox360 game.

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I'm excited for it because it looks fun. No matter how generic you call it it still looks like a breath of fresh air, the only game I consider this gen to be a fun FPs is Halo 3, no reliance on stupid cover, no trying to be overly realistic. This takes it even more old school though, getting up close and personal, good old run n' gun shooting, tha Wii is perfect for that. I actually think bland war shooters with over-reliance on trying to be realistic are actually the new generic. If I'm fighting aliens with a health bar that rehcarges itself please explain why you feel it neccessary to try to make the game more realistic...
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#44 JPOBS
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it has some nice weapons. everything else is underwhelming though.
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#45 fazares
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Looks last gen,but then again it is on the wii which has last gen hardware,so I guess it makes sense.stepat201

i m tired of posting this comparison over and over but fanboys like u must understand that the wii ist a last gen console but something between a last gen and a current gen console .....

wii is different enough from the ps2,gfx wise....

look at how sonic character model evolved from sonic heroes(ps2,xbox,gc) to smash brawl(wii)

sonic

sonic heroes(ps2,xbox,gc)

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super smash brawl(wii)

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#46 fazares
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The Conduit will flop hard, both from a critical stand point and a sales stand point.

D: it looks bad to be honost. The Wii is slightly stronger than the original Xbox yet the original Xbox games certainly look better than this.

insanejedi
not really the wii is way stronger than the original xbox.... can render textures whose resolution is twice higher,more polygons,better shaders ,lighting etc....the first xbox couldnt replicate the exact gfx of smg,mp3 or ssbb gfx....
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#47 insanejedi
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[QUOTE="insanejedi"]

The Conduit will flop hard, both from a critical stand point and a sales stand point.

D: it looks bad to be honost. The Wii is slightly stronger than the original Xbox yet the original Xbox games certainly look better than this.

fazares

not really the wii is way stronger than the original xbox.... can render textures whose resolution is twice higher,more polygons,better shaders ,lighting etc....the first xbox couldnt replicate the exact gfx of smg,mp3 or ssbb gfx....

Thats why Far Cry was better looking on the wii. wait...

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I'm excited for it because it looks fun. No matter how generic you call it it still looks like a breath of fresh air, the only game I consider this gen to be a fun FPs is Halo 3, no reliance on stupid cover, no trying to be overly realistic. This takes it even more old school though, getting up close and personal, good old run n' gun shooting, tha Wii is perfect for that. I actually think bland war shooters with over-reliance on trying to be realistic are actually the new generic. If I'm fighting aliens with a health bar that rehcarges itself please explain why you feel it neccessary to try to make the game more realistic...bobbetybob

Did it ever occur to you that some people have a different taste? I for one enjoy strategic shooters more. Rainbow Six and SWAT franchises. I'm probably the minority, but I really enjoy strategy shooters. Its my favourite genre actually.

I'm still slightly disappointed with R6 Vegas though, and how the whole industry has turned so console centric. My favourite genre seems dying.

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#49 air_wolf_cubed
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[QUOTE="fazares"][QUOTE="insanejedi"]

The Conduit will flop hard, both from a critical stand point and a sales stand point.

D: it looks bad to be honost. The Wii is slightly stronger than the original Xbox yet the original Xbox games certainly look better than this.

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not really the wii is way stronger than the original xbox.... can render textures whose resolution is twice higher,more polygons,better shaders ,lighting etc....the first xbox couldnt replicate the exact gfx of smg,mp3 or ssbb gfx....

Thats why Far Cry was better looking on the wii. wait...

:lol: Ubisoft as an example
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[QUOTE="fazares"][QUOTE="insanejedi"]

The Conduit will flop hard, both from a critical stand point and a sales stand point.

D: it looks bad to be honost. The Wii is slightly stronger than the original Xbox yet the original Xbox games certainly look better than this.

insanejedi

not really the wii is way stronger than the original xbox.... can render textures whose resolution is twice higher,more polygons,better shaders ,lighting etc....the first xbox couldnt replicate the exact gfx of smg,mp3 or ssbb gfx....

Thats why Far Cry was better looking on the wii. wait...

wear off the fanboy glasses and look at the comparison i previously posted...

the wii is a generation apart...something between a last generation and a current generation console...a bit like the n64....