South African retail shuns Xbox 360

A leading South African distributor has told MCV that many of the country's major retailers refuse to stock Xbox 360 consoles due to reliability concerns and the infamous Red Ring of Death (RROD).

"The Xbox360 has had a rather rough time in South Africa," Apex Interactive director Quinton Eavie stated. "It has been plagued with an extraordinarily high failure rate on the hardware when it was initially launched, which has seen it been removed from some of the important retail stores in our territory."MCV UK

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This sure sounds like System Wars material to me! What do you guys make of this? South Africa gets rather hot, no? :D

I thought newer xbox 360 consoles didn't fail as much? At least thats what i've heard from my local game stores.

does MS warranty cover south africa?

RROD is a myth created by sony MFDOOM1983

RROD is nowhere near the problem it used to be.Ravensmash

Africa alone doesnt have that problem, almost all the countires in America have that too. As far as I know, Microsoft only offices are in United States so in the other countries it is quite of hard to have a 360; get a RROD and your 360 is dead for sure. Also, I think that the units with the Jasper chip havent come yet. That is the main reason the ps3 and Wii are dominating the rest of America.

i hav an old 360 but it is still working. i thinkt he new 20009 2010 360s has very minimal failure rate . and after the instal the game feature the failure rate reduced also.

[QUOTE="RTUUMM"][QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]RROD is a myth created by sony MFDOOM1983

does MS warranty cover south africa?

Zaibach

I've had my 360 for three years and a second one for one year and I have yet to get RROD on either. I must have the special editions because everyone else here apparently gets it twice a month.Zero5000X

lol i agree every1 on gamespot seems to get it twice a month or knows some1 that get it twice a month

Africa alone doesnt have that problem, the only countires in America have that too. As far as I know, Microsoft only offices are in United States so in the other countries it is quite of hard to have a 360; get a RROD and your 360 is dead for sure. Also, I think that the units with the Jasper chip havent come yet. That is the main reason the ps3 and Wii are dominating the rest of America. Miroku32

That is true. When I unfortunately still lived in Saudi Arabia, two friends of mine got the RRoD and had to go to 3rd parties and pay to get it fixed even though Microsoft has a presence in the area.

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]does MS warranty cover south africa?faheem_s_i

A South African citizen is refuting the information provided in the article. What do we do now, System Wars? :o

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"][QUOTE="RTUUMM"] right........................... >_>RTUUMM

[QUOTE="Zero5000X"]I've had my 360 for three years and a second one for one year and I have yet to get RROD on either. I must have the special editions because everyone else here apparently gets it twice a month.pc-ps360

lol i agree every1 on gamespot seems to get it twice a month or knows some1 that get it twice a month

How did 360 failed so badly with its RRoD when Xbox 1 was such a beast that NEVER ever breaks?silversix_

rushed and poor QA can be attributed to this in earlier cases im pretty sure the 360 went into production just 6 weeks before its launch :S bad move no1.Its like basses i tend to avoid anything thats low end by Dean or BC rich like the plague for the reason they are poorly constructed and not well made nor made of the best quality gear compared to say an Ibanez GSR or Squier VM model.So a lot of local shops have stoped stocking them cause of the quality.

maybe the company in SA feel the same with the 360.The diffrence is MS are adressing the problems with their product xD.

And a nice little note is SA doesnt have XBL which could also be showing a sign of protest.

I`m from South-Africa and few people buy the xbox 360. Most of my friends have a ps3.

I`m from South-Africa and few people buy the xbox 360. Most of my friends have a ps3.

nbessiner

[QUOTE="nbessiner"]

I`m from South-Africa and few people buy the xbox 360. Most of my friends have a ps3.

Hexagon_777

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

[QUOTE="nbessiner"]

I`m from South-Africa and few people buy the xbox 360. Most of my friends have a ps3.

Zero5000X

Not quite, very far apart

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="nbessiner"]I`m from South-Africa and few people buy the xbox 360. Most of my friends have a ps3.Zero5000X

[QUOTE="Zero5000X"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]The Middle East is said to consist of Sony fanboys so I suppose some of that brushes off onto Africa. :PHexagon_777

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="Zero5000X"] The Middle East and South Africa are quite far apart.Zero5000X

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

[QUOTE="Zero5000X"] The Middle East and South Africa are quite far apart.Zero5000X

Exactly, my first console was the ps1.

[QUOTE="Zero5000X"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]The Middle East is said to consist of Sony fanboys so I suppose some of that brushes off onto Africa. :PHexagon_777

i hav an old 360 but it is still working. i thinkt he new 20009 2010 360s has very minimal failure rate . and after the instal the game feature the failure rate reduced also.

pc-ps360

I would hope so, being that far in the future they have PLENTY of time to figure it out :P

[QUOTE="Miroku32"]Africa alone doesnt have that problem, the only countires in America have that too. As far as I know, Microsoft only offices are in United States so in the other countries it is quite of hard to have a 360; get a RROD and your 360 is dead for sure. Also, I think that the units with the Jasper chip havent come yet. That is the main reason the ps3 and Wii are dominating the rest of America. Hexagon_777

That is true. When I unfortunately still lived in Saudi Arabia, two friends of mine got the RRoD and had to go to 3rd parties and pay to get it fixed even though Microsoft has a presence in the area.

my Jasper is perfectly fine, while my fat ps3 is at the doctor.

I have never heard of any videogames console in history having problems of this magnitude due to poor manufacturing.

I remember the actual gov't of Australia got involved due to RROD, and now South Africa...it's nuts. People can point to other problems with consoles in the past, this is huge and will be remembered forever in history as the worst by a large margin...until a new record setter enters next gen perhaps.

I myself have been hit by RROD 3 Times, and E74 once, and I actually paid for a trade in and bought a Halo 360 to avoid RROD after RROD #2...which didn't help since I got RROD 13 months later anyways.

It's tricky. I am very careful now, I never leave my 360 to idle, I hardly use it for Netflix, and I never use it for DVD's. It's strictly for games, and I don't play longer than 3 hour sessions. I know the 360's each have a lifespan, but I am doing my best to make sure my current machines last hopefully for the next 5 years. I don't buy multiplats on either of my two 360's anymore (unless it's the best version), and I really go out of my way to baby my two machines.

There will be a time when 360's are NOT covered by warranty in the future, and will not be manufactured anymore (720's will be out, etc.), and I want to make sure I have 360's in that future timeline. THe only way to ensure that is to take precautions NOW. There is no hyperbole in this statement, this is how I am now that I've been hit so much. Everyone may have their own take on RROD / E74 / E errors / Disc scratching, but for those 360 owners paying attention, you've been warned. You have to think of the future.

The last thing I need is two RROD 360's in my closet in 2015 just because I didn't care in 2010 to heed any warnings.

I have never heard of any videogames console in history having problems of this magnitude due to poor manufacturing.

I remember the actual gov't of Australia got involved due to RROD, and now South Africa...it's nuts. People can point to other problems with consoles in the past, this is huge and will be remembered forever in history as the worst by a large margin...until a new record setter enters next gen perhaps.

I myself have been hit by RROD 3 Times, and E74 once, and I actually paid for a trade in and bought a Halo 360 to avoid RROD after RROD #2...which didn't help since I got RROD 13 months later anyways.

It's tricky. I am very careful now, I never leave my 360 to idle, I hardly use it for Netflix, and I never use it for DVD's. It's strictly for games, and I don't play longer than 3 hour sessions. I know the 360's each have a lifespan, but I am doing my best to make sure my current machines last hopefully for the next 5 years. I don't buy multiplats on either of my two 360's anymore (unless it's the best version), and I really go out of my way to baby my two machines.

There will be a time when 360's are NOT covered by warranty in the future, and will not be manufactured anymore (720's will be out, etc.), and I want to make sure I have 360's in that future timeline. THe only way to ensure that is to take precautions NOW. This is no hyperbole in this, this is how I am now that I've been hit so much. Everyone may have their own take, but for those paying attention, you've been warned. You have to think of the future.

The last thing I need is two RROD 360's in my closet in 2015 just because I didn't care in 2010 to heed any warnings.

SolidTy

I have never heard of any videogames console in history having problems of this magnitude due to poor manufacturing.

I remember the actual gov't of Australia got involved due to RROD, and now South Africa...it's nuts. People can point to other problems with consoles in the past, this is huge and will be remembered forever in history as the worst by a large margin...until a new record setter enters next gen perhaps.

I myself have been hit by RROD 3 Times, and E74 once, and I actually paid for a trade in and bought a Halo 360 to avoid RROD after RROD #2...which didn't help since I got RROD 13 months later anyways.

It's tricky. I am very careful now, I never leave my 360 to idle, I hardly use it for Netflix, and I never use it for DVD's. It's strictly for games, and I don't play longer than 3 hour sessions. I know the 360's each have a lifespan, but I am doing my best to make sure my current machines last hopefully for the next 5 years. I don't buy multiplats on either of my two 360's anymore (unless it's the best version), and I really go out of my way to baby my two machines.

There will be a time when 360's are NOT covered by warranty in the future, and will not be manufactured anymore (720's will be out, etc.), and I want to make sure I have 360's in that future timeline. THe only way to ensure that is to take precautions NOW. There is no hyperbole in this statement, this is how I am now that I've been hit so much. Everyone may have their own take on RROD / E74 / E errors / Disc scratching, but for those 360 owners paying attention, you've been warned. You have to think of the future.

The last thing I need is two RROD 360's in my closet in 2015 just because I didn't care in 2010 to heed any warnings.

SolidTy

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

I have never heard of any videogames console in history having problems of this magnitude due to poor manufacturing.

I remember the actual gov't of Australia got involved due to RROD, and now South Africa...it's nuts. People can point to other problems with consoles in the past, this is huge and will be remembered forever in history as the worst by a large margin...until a new record setter enters next gen perhaps.

I myself have been hit by RROD 3 Times, and E74 once, and I actually paid for a trade in and bought a Halo 360 to avoid RROD after RROD #2...which didn't help since I got RROD 13 months later anyways.

It's tricky. I am very careful now, I never leave my 360 to idle, I hardly use it for Netflix, and I never use it for DVD's. It's strictly for games, and I don't play longer than 3 hour sessions. I know the 360's each have a lifespan, but I am doing my best to make sure my current machines last hopefully for the next 5 years. I don't buy multiplats on either of my two 360's anymore (unless it's the best version), and I really go out of my way to baby my two machines.

There will be a time when 360's are NOT covered by warranty in the future, and will not be manufactured anymore (720's will be out, etc.), and I want to make sure I have 360's in that future timeline. THe only way to ensure that is to take precautions NOW. This is no hyperbole in this, this is how I am now that I've been hit so much. Everyone may have their own take, but for those paying attention, you've been warned. You have to think of the future.

The last thing I need is two RROD 360's in my closet in 2015 just because I didn't care in 2010 to heed any warnings.

navyguy21

I'm being more than fair. I'm not talking about SW, I'm talking about the global impact of poor manufacturing on the 360. This is the worst by far and will will be remembered as #1 with a bullet...especially when you factor in the incredibly low install base 360 has compared to PSONe or PS2 or any other console.Think about that. The Xbox 360 is in Year 5, with 40 million sales, and RROD has been a problem since the first month. It's not like 100 million PSOnes or 160 million PS2's, or whatever. We are talking a much smaller community dealing with a much larger problem...and this problem isn't a dust issue, this cripples the machine due to heat. It's not an easy fix either.

I honestly think coming into a thread about South African retailers shunning Xbox 360's and bringing up console problems from other companies could be considered an attempt to minimize faults of the Xbox, to be honest. I don't want to stray away from topic, since this is a 360 topic, but I hope this explains a bit more.

I've been gaming long, long, long enough to live through these gaming era's, and the RROD issue is what it is. As far as my 360 warning above, people better take precautions. I'm not minimizing any faults and I'm not bringing up any companies, this thread is about South African Retail shunning 360, so I'm just keeping it real. I stayed on topic and responded in kind.

If you would like to know, I have had problems with videogaming products throughout my life, but never has it been as bad as my 360 problems. While that's a personal experience, apparently South African retailers agree with my sentiments.Comparing to any other companies is attempting to minimize the destructive wake E74 and RROD has had on consumers, on the plus side, for those that use warranties, the 3 year warranties was pretty nice...another industry first...but it was necessary for a reason.I've had bad PSOnes, broken Xbox's, bad Dreamcasts, DRE PS2, bad Atari 5200, broken NES's, Bad Sega Genesis',...etc, but RROD will be remembered as the worst console problem. That's just how it's going down, I just got to be fair, ok.

Here's my overall message in a nutshell to those gamers out there reading in SW :

Be careful out there guys, don't overuse your 360's. That's my advice to any that are listening.:P

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

I have never heard of any videogames console in history having problems of this magnitude due to poor manufacturing.

I remember the actual gov't of Australia got involved due to RROD, and now South Africa...it's nuts. People can point to other problems with consoles in the past, this is huge and will be remembered forever in history as the worst by a large margin...until a new record setter enters next gen perhaps.

I myself have been hit by RROD 3 Times, and E74 once, and I actually paid for a trade in and bought a Halo 360 to avoid RROD after RROD #2...which didn't help since I got RROD 13 months later anyways.

It's tricky. I am very careful now, I never leave my 360 to idle, I hardly use it for Netflix, and I never use it for DVD's. It's strictly for games, and I don't play longer than 3 hour sessions. I know the 360's each have a lifespan, but I am doing my best to make sure my current machines last hopefully for the next 5 years. I don't buy multiplats on either of my two 360's anymore (unless it's the best version), and I really go out of my way to baby my two machines.

There will be a time when 360's are NOT covered by warranty in the future, and will not be manufactured anymore (720's will be out, etc.), and I want to make sure I have 360's in that future timeline. THe only way to ensure that is to take precautions NOW. There is no hyperbole in this statement, this is how I am now that I've been hit so much. Everyone may have their own take on RROD / E74 / E errors / Disc scratching, but for those 360 owners paying attention, you've been warned. You have to think of the future.

The last thing I need is two RROD 360's in my closet in 2015 just because I didn't care in 2010 to heed any warnings.

Zaibach

I just got back from a wedding in Hawaii visiting some friends, and I didnt want to labtop, PSP, Cell phone it up to GS forums.

It was a fine trip. :)

I just got back from a wedding in Hawaii visiting some friends, and I didnt want to labtop, PSP, Cell phone it up to GS forums.

It was a fine trip. :)

SolidTy

Hawaii? I'm jealous! Sounds like an awesome trip! :D I could use a vacation from all the school-work I'm buried under now. Ends of the year and not a favorite time of mine.

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

I have never heard of any videogames console in history having problems of this magnitude due to poor manufacturing.

I remember the actual gov't of Australia got involved due to RROD, and now South Africa...it's nuts. People can point to other problems with consoles in the past, this is huge and will be remembered forever in history as the worst by a large margin...until a new record setter enters next gen perhaps.

I myself have been hit by RROD 3 Times, and E74 once, and I actually paid for a trade in and bought a Halo 360 to avoid RROD after RROD #2...which didn't help since I got RROD 13 months later anyways.

It's tricky. I am very careful now, I never leave my 360 to idle, I hardly use it for Netflix, and I never use it for DVD's. It's strictly for games, and I don't play longer than 3 hour sessions. I know the 360's each have a lifespan, but I am doing my best to make sure my current machines last hopefully for the next 5 years. I don't buy multiplats on either of my two 360's anymore (unless it's the best version), and I really go out of my way to baby my two machines.

There will be a time when 360's are NOT covered by warranty in the future, and will not be manufactured anymore (720's will be out, etc.), and I want to make sure I have 360's in that future timeline. THe only way to ensure that is to take precautions NOW. There is no hyperbole in this statement, this is how I am now that I've been hit so much. Everyone may have their own take on RROD / E74 / E errors / Disc scratching, but for those 360 owners paying attention, you've been warned. You have to think of the future.

The last thing I need is two RROD 360's in my closet in 2015 just because I didn't care in 2010 to heed any warnings.

SolidTy

I just got back from a wedding in Hawaii visiting some friends, and I didnt want to labtop, PSP, Cell phone it up to GS forums.

It was a fine trip. :)

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]hey ty, where you been?

Zaibach

I just got back from a wedding in Hawaii visiting some friends, and I didnt want to labtop, PSP, Cell phone it up to GS forums.

It was a fine trip. :)

You ever see the HBO show Big Love? That's the kind of Wedding I'm looking forward to. :P

Those South African retailers sure are strict for shunning 360's.

Who cares its South Africa:roll:

So? Who cares if Xbox 360 isn't selling well in africa. Africa is just ONE COUNTRY.

So? Who cares if Xbox 360 isn't selling well in africa. Africa is just ONE COUNTRY.

BioDogshock

Africa is one country now? :lol: I think you mean South Africa... ;) :P

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

I just got back from a wedding in Hawaii visiting some friends, and I didnt want to labtop, PSP, Cell phone it up to GS forums.

It was a fine trip. :)

SolidTy

You ever see the HBO show Big Love? That's the kind of Wedding I'm looking forward to. :P

Those South African retailers sure are strict for shunning 360's.

I also here the north pole is not selling too many 360s (ps3 rulezzzzzz:roll::cry::P;)