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#1 Pedro
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Despite the false claim that Sony doesn't need to compete with GamePass and that the shitty equivalent PSNow is good enough, Sony is allegedly going to reveal their actual GamePass equivalent next week. What are your thoughts or expectations?

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#2 BenjaminBanklin
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Sony CAN'T compete with Game Pass. It's a multibillion dollar money sink meant to monopolize the market (one day, I guess). It makes no financial sense to pursue unless you're a giant tech company with cash to burn and a belly full of spite from being behind in the market for decades. 🤣 I really don't think this'll be more than PSNow and Plus merging, which should have happened a long time ago anyway

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#3 Pedro
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@BenjaminBanklin said:

Sony CAN'T compete with Game Pass. It's a multibillion dollar money sink meant to monopolize the market (one day, I guess). It makes no financial sense to pursue unless you're a giant tech company with cash to burn and a belly full of spite from being behind in the market for decades. 🤣 I really don't think this'll be more than PSNow and Plus merging, which should have happened a long time ago anyway

So, you are saying PSNow is and Spartacus is money sink?🤔

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#4 deactivated-67913f01c3174
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If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.

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#5 Miyomatic
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We can talk Gamepass all day, but I think it makes more sense to compare it to Nintendo's online service.

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#6 BenjaminBanklin
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@Pedro said:

So, you are saying PSNow is and Spartacus is money sink?🤔

I'm saying it'll be more frugal that what MS is offering, so no one should be expecting the world. Maybe some tiers, some third party day ones here and there. But nothing on the level of buying publishers and practically giving away their catalogs for the foreseeable future, no.

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#7 SolidGame_basic
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Pedro getting ready for damage control 🤣

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#8 Pedro
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@BenjaminBanklin said:

I'm saying it'll be more frugal that what MS is offering, so no one should be expecting the world. Maybe some tiers, some third party day ones here and there. But nothing on the level of buying publishers and practically giving away their catalogs for the foreseeable future, no.

How does Spartacus reveal equate to buying publishers and practically giving away catalogs? Is there a free options to these paid services?🤔

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#9 Pedro
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@SolidGame_basic said:

Pedro getting ready for damage control 🤣

Damage control? What do I need to damage control when we have Sony fannies like you subbing to Gamepass for three years.🤭

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@Pedro said:

How does Spartacus reveal equate to buying publishers and practically giving away catalogs? Is there a free options to these paid services?🤔

Sony's not going to do the loss leader thing when it comes to this service, so everyone needs to be realistic. The lengths MS has gone through to get the subs they have barely scratch the surface of what's been invested in the Xbox brand so far.

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#11 deactivated-67913f01c3174
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Since GP is profitable, I have no doubt this will be profitable too.

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#12 madrocketeer
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Exciting.

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#13 clone01
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Right on. Gamepass is a great service. Like to see how Spartacus turns out.

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#15 hardwenzen
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MS is losing millions. Sony isn't this stupid.

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#16 ___gamemaster__
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As someone who doesnt have too much time playing, i prefer physical games than any of these subscription. Sony has a massive library dating back to psx era. If they can include those to their subscription model, i may get intrigue.

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#17  Edited By simple-facts
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Cows tits are about to get pulled on a shitty version of the No1 subscription service gamepass

MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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#18 Archangel3371  Online
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I’m interested in seeing what kind of service Sony will provide with Spartacus. I love Game Pass and would like to see if Sony something equally as enticing.

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#19 daredevils2k
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I've never seen so many scared lems in my entire life.

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#20 sealionact
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@daredevils2k: Uh…what are they scared of?

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#21 brimmul777
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Hopefully GamePass keeps up what their doing with great releases day 1,and hopefully Sony can come back with something just as good? It’ll be really great if Nintendo could come out with a service like GamePass? I’d be a Nintendo gamer again along side Xbox and PS.

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#23 shellcase86
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Wow, not use to seeing such strong bias from OP.

Anywho, I'm most interested in seeing how Sony handles current subscribers -- specifically those who have both PS+ and PSNow.

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#24 hardwenzen
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If their 8-12h long singleplayer releases are all available on the service day one, why would anyone buy them for $70? What was the point of even increasing the price of their games lmao.

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#25 dabear
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@Pedro: I'm interested to see what they do.

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#26 Pedro
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@shellcase86 said:

Wow, not use to seeing such strong bias from OP.

Anywho, I'm most interested in seeing how Sony handles current subscribers -- specifically those who have both PS+ and PSNow.

😂, it is to trigger folks.

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#27 Howmakewood
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hope it doesnt end up increasing the price to play online

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#28 tdkmillsy
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I've been told this is just a sub service to PSNow and PSNow is the competitive product to GamePass.

Guess that means there is nothing to see here then.

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#29 Pedro
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@tdkmillsy: What? This supposed to be the Gamepass killer.☹️

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#30  Edited By Miyomatic
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@Pedro said:

@tdkmillsy: What? This supposed to be the Gamepass killer.☹️

Said who? I feel like you just really enjoy poking the beehive. 😆

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#31 Pedro
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@Miyomatic: Me, purposely poking the bee hive? Nah!😉

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#32 GameboyTroy
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@howmakewood said:

hope it doesnt end up increasing the price to play online

I agree. I hope Sony doesn't do something that is bad for consumers. I don't want unforeseen bad things to happen to consumers.

If Sony does something that they can't afford, then they've played themselves.

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#33 Silentchief
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Will probably just merge PS+ and PS now... maybe add crunchyroll as well.

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#34 Pedro
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@silentchief: Sounds like it would cost more.

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#35 mrbojangles25
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Only thing that could make me care is if they developed it for PC.

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#36 adsparky
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I'm curious but not hyped.

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#37  Edited By lamprey263
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Kind of funny in past months this being written up as Sony's answer to Game Pass as they already have PS Now and this would seem more a rebranding effort in hopes it garners and uptick.

Seems for what is written is that older games will be specialized to a certain tier add-on possibly to free up its revenues to focus on acquiring more contemporary offerings with the base subscription revenues. Will also be interesting if they finally cracked the BC issues so game can get support and enhancements running on new hardware so games can be played locally and not require the streaming infrastructure.

Wondering if the tier structure will combine Plus and Now into one recurring subscription price equivalent to the average monthly cost of getting the cheaper annual subscriptions (like Game Pass Ultimate does).

That being said I think they need to do more to grow service, for instance cross platform support for PC with say save transfers and cross platform entitlements, for both rental and retail, so they'll likely need a PC distribution avenue or partner(s). And would be nice if competition compels them to start offering their exclusives day one as well as make their first party catalog accessible. But, baby steps. Don't expect as much in coming days. I imagine if there will be any bombshells in coming days it would be what titles they'll bring to the service day one, as surely their Shadow Warrior 3 PS Now deal was a hint this will be their strategy going forward. Hope it's good because Xbox could certainly use some competition to try harder themselves.

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#38 GameboyTroy
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@girlusocrazy said:

Don't care I would rather buy physical games

I agree, I'd rather own games than to rent them. I didn't want this kind of subscription service at all.

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#39  Edited By mane_basic
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this should be interesting. i don't think sony will do day one release mainly because they have higher overhead than MS. Ms owns their infrastructure while Sony will be licensing theirs. I can't imagine what MS charges Sony on a monthly for use of their servers as well as cloud tech. i think they'll do a 3 to 6 months window between the retail release and the service release, like a movie going from cinema to streaming.

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#40 Miyomatic
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Has anyone else realized that TLOU Factions could be announced during this showcase? And with rumors of Sony's emphasis on GAAS, it very well could be F2P exclusively through Spartacus? Similar to when Nintendo drops something like Tetris 99 on their online service.

I'm sure there would be mixed feelings about this, but undeniable that the Lemmings would be owned and banished straight to the Shadow Realm.

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#41 Pedro
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@Miyomatic said:

Has anyone else realized that TLOU Factions could be announced during this showcase? And with rumors of Sony's emphasis on GAAS, it very well could be F2P exclusively through Spartacus? Similar to when Nintendo drops something like Tetris 99 on their online service.

I'm sure there would be mixed feelings about this, but undeniable that the Lemmings would be owned and banished straight to the Shadow Realm.

How is locking a game like TLOU Factions behind a paywall a win to banish the Xbox fannies?🤔

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#42  Edited By Miyomatic
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@Pedro said:
@Miyomatic said:

Has anyone else realized that TLOU Factions could be announced during this showcase? And with rumors of Sony's emphasis on GAAS, it very well could be F2P exclusively through Spartacus? Similar to when Nintendo drops something like Tetris 99 on their online service.

I'm sure there would be mixed feelings about this, but undeniable that the Lemmings would be owned and banished straight to the Shadow Realm.

How is locking a game like TLOU Factions behind a paywall a win to banish the Xbox fannies?🤔

Such an easy question to answer!

Because ND literally poops gold. Idc how they offer it, Sony can milk me til the cows come home if it means playing a generational masterpiece. Lemmings dont even know that level of greatness. 😉

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#43 Pedro
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@Miyomatic said:

Such an easy question to answer!

Because ND literally poops gold. Idc how they offer it, Sony can milk me til the cows come home if it means playing a generational masterpiece. 😉

That doesn't answer the question but it does inform me that you really want the game.

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#44  Edited By Miyomatic
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@Pedro said:
@Miyomatic said:

Such an easy question to answer!

Because ND literally poops gold. Idc how they offer it, Sony can milk me til the cows come home if it means playing a generational masterpiece. 😉

That doesn't answer the question but it does inform me that you really want the game.

You were faster than my edit. I'll concede for now....but we'll meet again. ☺️

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#45 blaznwiipspman1
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@Pedro: I opened this thread thinking it's a solidgame_basic one but instead it's from Pedro. Next week should be hilarious 😂

As an Xbox fan I want to bash spartaflop but as a consumer I'm interested. Knowing sony, this is likely going to be a half ass service, though I could be wrong.

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#46  Edited By PSP107
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@Archangel3371: "I love Game Pass and would like to see if Sony something equally as enticing."

I hear gamepass subscribers get to download 1st party games day 1. I don't think Sony would put The Last of Us Part 3 on Spartacus day 1.

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#47 Jendeh
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The rumors so far make me yawn. I don't think it is going to be a legit competitor. I think it will be an upgrade to what they already have. It might take some time to tweak it. However...I'm prepared to be underwhelmed, and I love my PS5.

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#48 VFighter
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I subscribe to ps+ so I can play online, any subscription service after that I don't give two shits about.

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#49 WitIsWisdom
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Well, I am interested in hearing more, but much like with the Switch I'm not interested in paying more to play older games. Mostly because I already own most of them.. lol. Anyways though, if they offer some cool things I might check it out. I heard they were going to add in game demos or game time for their new games (like a 2-5 hour long playtime). That might be enough for me to up my sub price by I don't know. Time will tell.

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#50 MysticalDonut
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Bummer to see Sony go this route, I'll never be for the full on digital/subscription based future. I will always buy and own physical copies of my games for as long as possible.