Speaking as a BIG Gears fan.. Paying for maps is Insane!

You might say "well its simple, just dont buy the maps" but no its actually not that simple. I mean who the hell does microsoft think they are, first they release the "Elite" which gives us 360 owners the shaft that already have the premium model, then the faulty consoles that keep breaking and keep breaking that keep having to get sent back and repaired, and they charge for Halo 2 maps, they charge for maps for a LAST GEN XBOX GAME! I mean come on, when will enough be enough?! But hey, cant say I blame microsoft that much though, I mean afterall SOMEBODY has to pay for shipping and repairing those broken 360s, just to bad it has to be the consumer :roll: 

Don't get me wrong, I love Gears of war and its one of my favorite games of all time and I play it on a daily basis, but come on, charging $10.00 more dollars for a few more maps! WHAT IS THIS WORLD COMING TO, having to pay for extra levels lmao i mean seriously, i dont care how much you love gears and MS you have to admit this is ridicolous. All I know is this and this is coming straight from a 360 owner, and that is MS better clean up their act with these faulty consoles and charging for extra levels because it can really come back and haunt them once the PS3's heavy hitting games come out later this year, the 360 sales have already dropped dramatically. Heck I was even thinking about buying the elite but then I thought to myself since my 360 is working perfectly and hastn broke (yet) im just going to stick with it.. Why take the chance

Yes, because we all know it costs nothing to develop multiplayer maps...

Of course the price for maps can be too much, but not every developer is generous enough to make some more maps and give them away like a christmas present. Also, this is not new or something. Paying for maps has been around. (I know, not with PC).

Yup. I feel like xboxlive is beeing flooded with content you have to pay for.

Soon we will probably have to pay for demos and game trailers aswell.

When that day comes, I will quit console gaming. 

Yes, because we all know it costs nothing to develop multiplayer maps...

Of course the price for maps can be too much, but not every developer is generous enough to make some more maps and give them away like a christmas present. Also, this is not new or something. Paying for maps has been around. (I know, not with PC).

11Marcel

Yup. I feel like xboxlive is beeing flooded with content you have to pay for.

Soon we will probably have to pay for demos and game trailers aswell.

When that day comes, I will quit console gaming.

okristian

u have to be gulliabe to like live because everything has a fee.

[QUOTE="okristian"]

Yup. I feel like xboxlive is beeing flooded with content you have to pay for.

Soon we will probably have to pay for demos and game trailers aswell.

When that day comes, I will quit console gaming.

ff7isnumbaone

u have to be gulliabe to like live because everything you pay.

[QUOTE="11Marcel"]

Yes, because we all know it costs nothing to develop multiplayer maps...

Of course the price for maps can be too much, but not every developer is generous enough to make some more maps and give them away like a christmas present. Also, this is not new or something. Paying for maps has been around. (I know, not with PC).

okristian

talk is cheap. vote with your wallets. that's all that matters to the corps. 

Yes, because we all know it costs nothing to develop multiplayer maps...

Of course the price for maps can be too much, but not every developer is generous enough to make some more maps and give them away like a christmas present. Also, this is not new or something. Paying for maps has been around. (I know, not with PC).

11Marcel

The developer WAS generous to offer it for free, but MS won't let Epic do it.  Not yet that is.

Don't buy it.OGTiago

Simple as that.

i know this is blashpemy but i hope PSN becomes better then XBL so M$ is knocked off their high horse for thinking they must charge for everything.

Yes, because we all know it costs nothing to develop multiplayer maps...

Of course the price for maps can be too much, but not every developer is generous enough to make some more maps and give them away like a christmas present. Also, this is not new or something. Paying for maps has been around. (I know, not with PC).

11Marcel

Last time I checked map creators in PC games are free.

This is why I chose to get a new PC first before a 360.foxhound_fox

I'm pretty sure there were other factors involved before you came to that decision.  Downloadable content isn't that huge of an issue.

i know ill be buying them. i mean who cares if they charge for extra maps at this point. the game is great and i wouldnt mind at all paying for more maps to add to my enjoyment of the game. jxditu

So would you not mind paying $100 for a game up front if it had a lot of maps? I doubt it because you wouldn't look at it the same way.... these maps are relatively cheap but it adds up to a lot more money spent for "extras" that couldn've easily been included or given free (maps cost almost nothing to make). $20 expansion packs for PC games generally add large single player portions, new items, and more multiplayer maps. Charging anything more than pennies for basic maps is just ripping off consumers, period. 

[QUOTE="11Marcel"]

Yes, because we all know it costs nothing to develop multiplayer maps...

Of course the price for maps can be too much, but not every developer is generous enough to make some more maps and give them away like a christmas present. Also, this is not new or something. Paying for maps has been around. (I know, not with PC).

Stabby2486

Last time I checked map creators in PC games are free.

Either pay up or stop moaning and wait until September when they are free. You got what you payed for, Gears of war.

Why should everything after that be free?. Last time I checked things cost money.

[QUOTE="okristian"][QUOTE="11Marcel"]

Yes, because we all know it costs nothing to develop multiplayer maps...

Of course the price for maps can be too much, but not every developer is generous enough to make some more maps and give them away like a christmas present. Also, this is not new or something. Paying for maps has been around. (I know, not with PC).

11Marcel

Yeah, that's what I meant really. Paying for maps has been around, but not on PCs because of mapmakers.

The point it is that it doesn't cost anything to make maps, doesn't depend on who's making them.

Either pay up or stop moaning and wait until September when they are free. You got what you payed for, Gears of war.

Why should everything after that be free?. Last time I checked things cost money.

Bullets4Brains

I think it's related to the fact that the people who made the maps wanted to do so at no charge, while MS who weren't involved are trying to make a buck off of it.  Epic is not pleased at all.

[QUOTE="11Marcel"][QUOTE="okristian"][QUOTE="11Marcel"]

Yes, because we all know it costs nothing to develop multiplayer maps...

Of course the price for maps can be too much, but not every developer is generous enough to make some more maps and give them away like a christmas present. Also, this is not new or something. Paying for maps has been around. (I know, not with PC).

alfy13

[QUOTE="Stabby2486"][QUOTE="11Marcel"]

Yes, because we all know it costs nothing to develop multiplayer maps...

Of course the price for maps can be too much, but not every developer is generous enough to make some more maps and give them away like a christmas present. Also, this is not new or something. Paying for maps has been around. (I know, not with PC).

11Marcel

Last time I checked map creators in PC games are free.

[QUOTE="alfy13"][QUOTE="11Marcel"][QUOTE="okristian"][QUOTE="11Marcel"]

Yes, because we all know it costs nothing to develop multiplayer maps...

Of course the price for maps can be too much, but not every developer is generous enough to make some more maps and give them away like a christmas present. Also, this is not new or something. Paying for maps has been around. (I know, not with PC).

11Marcel

so Epic creates the maps and sells them and you hate MS for it?

:lol:

How does it not cost any money to make maps?, do developers get payed in magic beans or somehing?Bullets4Brains

What can't you understand, the developers don't want money for making them.  MS does.

This isn't about the developers not getting paid. 

so Epic creates the maps and sells them and you hate MS for it?

:lol:

 

tango90101

If Epic wants to release the maps for free, and M$ wants them to charge money for it, how would you feel towards MS?  

[QUOTE="11Marcel"][QUOTE="okristian"][QUOTE="11Marcel"]

Yes, because we all know it costs nothing to develop multiplayer maps...

Of course the price for maps can be too much, but not every developer is generous enough to make some more maps and give them away like a christmas present. Also, this is not new or something. Paying for maps has been around. (I know, not with PC).

alfy13

Yeah, according to epic on the 1up show, PC will have booster packs just like all the rest in the series. It's soley up to MS if they are going to charge for maps, which I beleive the guys at Epic voiced a strong disagreement in charging for extra content, as their philosophy is to give back to the community. But, they said MS can do whatever they want as it's their online system, I just hope people realize that this isn't the way Epic treats their fans, they are one of the best dev's out there, and more companies should model themselves after them.  

[QUOTE="11Marcel"][QUOTE="okristian"][QUOTE="11Marcel"]

Yes, because we all know it costs nothing to develop multiplayer maps...

Of course the price for maps can be too much, but not every developer is generous enough to make some more maps and give them away like a christmas present. Also, this is not new or something. Paying for maps has been around. (I know, not with PC).

alfy13

you make a lot of assumptions...

1. you still haven't provided any proof that MS is forcing epic to charge.

2. paying for maps (xbox live) is better than paying for virtual clothes and furniture (PSN Home)...

3. MS gave away 98% free content last gen on xbox live... someone had to pay for the work.  Yep, MS did...  where were you thanking them for that..?  ;)

your bias is too great to be ignored.

[QUOTE="11Marcel"][QUOTE="alfy13"][QUOTE="11Marcel"][QUOTE="okristian"][QUOTE="11Marcel"]

Yes, because we all know it costs nothing to develop multiplayer maps...

Of course the price for maps can be too much, but not every developer is generous enough to make some more maps and give them away like a christmas present. Also, this is not new or something. Paying for maps has been around. (I know, not with PC).

HazeNPopes

wow i just love your logic btw. so your telling me for the past 10-11 years that i have been a loyal fan of Unreal series and never been charged for BONUS PACKS THAT EPIC MADE ( not player made btw) but once MS publish a game taht epic makes its a OK to charge? even thougth EPIC STATED THEY WANTED TO GIVE THEM OUT FOR FREE? but MS FEELS DIFFERENTLY?

i guess you forgot, EPic is   are the one who stated they wants to give gears of war maps for free. if you really think it cost LOTS of money to make  for 3 maps for a game they already finsished and just add content to .  th en yah no point in agruing with you any more. but all i know is, im going to laugh when UT comes out for all 3 gameing systems, and the 360 gamers are the only one being charged for maps. but then again lemmings will spin that and try to damage control that also.

you make a lot of assumptions...

1. you still haven't provided any proof that MS is forcing epic to charge.

2. paying for maps (xbox live) is better than paying for virtual clothes and furniture (PSN Home)...

3. MS gave away 98% free content last gen on xbox live... someone had to pay for the work.  Yep, MS did...  where were you thanking them for that..?  ;)

your bias is too great to be ignored.

tango90101

Epic wants to release it for free, this is common knowledge and has been known for a long time.  They are being forced to sell it until later this fall. 

[QUOTE="alfy13"][QUOTE="11Marcel"][QUOTE="okristian"][QUOTE="11Marcel"]

Yes, because we all know it costs nothing to develop multiplayer maps...

Of course the price for maps can be too much, but not every developer is generous enough to make some more maps and give them away like a christmas present. Also, this is not new or something. Paying for maps has been around. (I know, not with PC).

tango90101

you make a lot of assumptions...

1. you still haven't provided any proof that MS is forcing epic to charge.

2. paying for maps (xbox live) is better than paying for virtual clothes and furniture (PSN Home)...

3. MS gave away 98% free content last gen on xbox live... someone had to pay for the work. Yep, MS did... where were you thanking them for that..? ;)

your bias is too great to be ignored.

IT'S NOT BIASED!!! GO HERE AND LISTEN TO THIS PODCAST WITH EPIC AND HOW THEY DISAGREE WITH MICROSOFT AND HOW THEY ARE HANDLING EXTRA CONTENT FOR THE COMMUNITY:

http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3?http://zdmedia.vo.llnwd.net/o1/Podcasts/040607.mp3 

Wow i just love your logic btw. so your telling me for the past 10-11 years that i have been a loyal fan of Unreal series and never been charged for BONUS PACKS THAT EPIC MADE ( not player made btw) but once MS publish a game taht epic makes its a OK to charge? even thougth EPIC STATED THEY WANTED TO GIVE THEM OUT FOR FREE? but MS FEELS DIFFERENTLY?

i guess you forgot, EPic is   are the one who stated they wants to give gears of war maps for free. if you really think it cost LOTS of money to make  for 3 maps for a game they already finsished and just add content to .  th en yah no point in agruing with you any more. but all i know is, im going to laugh when UT comes out for all 3 gameing systems, and the 360 gamers are the only one being charged for maps. but then again lemmings will spin that and try to damage control that also.

alfy13

I'll just quote myself from the post you responded to: "Yeah, it's not like I approve of what M$ is doing too."

Or did you not read my post?

[QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="alfy13"][QUOTE="11Marcel"][QUOTE="okristian"][QUOTE="11Marcel"]

Yes, because we all know it costs nothing to develop multiplayer maps...

Of course the price for maps can be too much, but not every developer is generous enough to make some more maps and give them away like a christmas present. Also, this is not new or something. Paying for maps has been around. (I know, not with PC).

mismajor99

you make a lot of assumptions...

1. you still haven't provided any proof that MS is forcing epic to charge.

2. paying for maps (xbox live) is better than paying for virtual clothes and furniture (PSN Home)...

3. MS gave away 98% free content last gen on xbox live... someone had to pay for the work. Yep, MS did... where were you thanking them for that..? ;)

your bias is too great to be ignored.

IT'S NOT BIASED!!! GO HERE AND LISTEN TO THIS PODCAST WITH EPIC AND HOW THEY DISAGREE WITH MICROSOFT AND HOW THEY ARE HANDLING EXTRA CONTENT FOR THE COMMUNITY:

http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3?http://zdmedia.vo.llnwd.net/o1/Podcasts/040607.mp3 

The way I see it people work hard putting those maps together and $10.00 isn't much considering cellphones charge just the same for crappy games. Dont buy plain and simpleBinski

I think that i have heard somewhere , cant remember where , that when Bill gates dies he will give 98 % of his money to help the poor people and poor countries ,,, if it is like that i would gladly pay 10 , but if its not like that then SCREW YOU MS I HATE YOU , otherwise yeah yo yo yo

[QUOTE="mismajor99"][QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="alfy13"][QUOTE="11Marcel"][QUOTE="okristian"][QUOTE="11Marcel"]

Yes, because we all know it costs nothing to develop multiplayer maps...

Of course the price for maps can be too much, but not every developer is generous enough to make some more maps and give them away like a christmas present. Also, this is not new or something. Paying for maps has been around. (I know, not with PC).

HazeNPopes

you make a lot of assumptions...

1. you still haven't provided any proof that MS is forcing epic to charge.

2. paying for maps (xbox live) is better than paying for virtual clothes and furniture (PSN Home)...

3. MS gave away 98% free content last gen on xbox live... someone had to pay for the work. Yep, MS did... where were you thanking them for that..? ;)

your bias is too great to be ignored.

IT'S NOT BIASED!!! GO HERE AND LISTEN TO THIS PODCAST WITH EPIC AND HOW THEY DISAGREE WITH MICROSOFT AND HOW THEY ARE HANDLING EXTRA CONTENT FOR THE COMMUNITY:

http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3?http://zdmedia.vo.llnwd.net/o1/Podcasts/040607.mp3 

HEY...why stop there.. why doens't epic just give away their games...(epic is full of crap)

that'll teach ms...:roll:

funny thing is; if they wanted to charge but MS didn't let them, they'd be screaming bloody murder...

ps...don't believe everything you hear... saying they don't want money is one thing; REALLY not wanting money is another....

epic  and gaming is a business, kiddies... biz is for making money...;)

[QUOTE="Binski"]The way I see it people work hard putting those maps together and $10.00 isn't much considering cellphones charge just the same for crappy games. Dont buy plain and simplefoxhound_fox