Spiderman 2 is actually an expansion to Spiderman 1

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#1 tdkmillsy
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https://www.essentiallysports.com/sony-ps5-spider-man-miles-morales-not-a-sequel-playstation-esports-news/

Not a new PS5 game, more an expansion pack on original PS4 game.

But not coming to PS4

I think thats kind of lame really.

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#2 WeRVenom
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I'm not sure how anyone is surprised. It only took them two years to make it. You probably won't see the proper sequel until 2023.

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#3  Edited By lamprey263  Online
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It's probably using many of same assets used in last game, but it's in a new setting. I think it was a smart move as far as capitalizing on success of Spider-Verse movie, but I would have liked to have seen them try harder to capture the film's visual design. Still, Insomniac must have expanded quite a bit to be juggling that with their upcoming Ratchet and Clank game.

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#4 Zero_epyon  Online
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That makes way more sense. So it's something like Infamous: First Light.

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#5 Zero_epyon  Online
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@wervenom said:

I'm not sure how anyone is surprised. It only took them two years to make it. You probably won't see the proper sequel until 2023.

This will probably set the sequel up.

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#6 WeRVenom
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I'm not sure how anyone is surprised. It only took them two years to make it. You probably won't see the proper sequel until 2023.

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#7  Edited By deactivated-63d2876fd4204
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Journalists on social media calling this a race thing. “Why does the black man get an expansion and not a numbered sequel?” Gotta get them clicks during these trying times!

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#8 Djoffer123
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Umm after reading that it kind of seems it’s just going to be an upgraded Spider-Man 2018 game with some added content or am i reading it wrong?? No way I am rebuying Spider-Man again just for some added content! Of course worked for p5r so why not..

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#9 with_teeth26
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yea, given the release date, this is what I assumed was the case.

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#10 hardwenzen
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Spiderman 🤢

The open world quests are on par with Ass Creed. Dunno how can anybody enjoy this.

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#11 WeRVenom
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@djoffer123:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ign.com/articles/ps5-spider-man-miles-morales-expansion-not-sequel%3famp=1

You don't rebuy the original. It's a standalone expansion. So think of Infamous First light or Uncharted lost legacy.

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https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/1271468048017432577?s=21

It’s a stand-alone game. Nothing to see here

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#13 pyro1245
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Looks like a spin-off, not an expansion. Expansion implies you need the first game to play it.

It's likely a smaller spin-off because they want to launch it with the console.

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A standalone game that has the original game included thats only available for PS5

and thats ok?

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@goldenelementxl said:

Journalists on social media calling this a race thing. “Why does the black man get an expansion and not a numbered sequel?” Gotta get them clicks during these trying times!

That's dumb. Miles was a secondary character and he's getting a whole story line and game just for him. Did those same critics cry when Infamous first light came out saying "Why does the woman get an expansion and not a numbered sequel?"

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@hardwenzen said:

Spiderman 🤢

The open world quests are on par with Ass Creed. Dunno how can anybody enjoy this.

Sucks to be you because I enjoy open-world games and if you don't know how to play'em, you aren't going to like any open-world games. And Spider-Man PS4 was among the best superhero game I enjoy in a very long time that was made by AAA developer who knows what they are doing.

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#17 DaVillain  Moderator
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@Zero_epyon said:
@goldenelementxl said:

Journalists on social media calling this a race thing. “Why does the black man get an expansion and not a numbered sequel?” Gotta get them clicks during these trying times!

That's dumb. Miles was a secondary character and he's getting a whole story line and game just for him. Did those same critics cry when Infamous first light came out saying "Why does the woman get an expansion and not a numbered sequel?"

Miles is half black/Hispanic. This has got to be the dumbest thing I ever seen and its clearly shows the media has never read Spider-Man comics to know Miles is mix.

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#18  Edited By hardwenzen
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@davillain- said:
@hardwenzen said:

Spiderman 🤢

The open world quests are on par with Ass Creed. Dunno how can anybody enjoy this.

Sucks to be you because I enjoy open-world games and if you don't know how to play'em, you aren't going to like any open-world games. And Spider-Man PS4 was among the best superhero game I enjoy in a very long time that was made by AAA developer who knows what they are doing.

I like open world just fine, but not your Ubi kind of formula open world games. Superhero anything, tho eww no thanks.

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#19 rmpumper
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Not surprised at all. The development time would have been way too short for it to be a brand new game and the fact that it's using assets from the first game, but won't be on PS4, just shows that SONY does not have any launch titles and decided to dress an expansion as a proper game to pretend that they have games and thus a reason for the new hardware this year.

MS is going the right way by not even pretending that the XSX is a must have on day 1.

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#20 DaVillain  Moderator
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Seems more like a spin-off (looking at you Metal Gear Rising) then an actual sequel, but I am still excited for it. I was going to wait to get a new console but if this is a PS5 exclusive, I might try to get the console at launch or around January 2021 when everything dies down. I really love Spider-Man PS4 and I'm a Marvel fanboy, so my Spidey fever is off the charts lol.

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#22 osan0
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Ah. noted. Going to knock Spiderman off my to get list of PS4 games when i get a PS5. just get this expanded one instead.

Has it been confirmed as a PS5 exclusive? seems a bit rough on PS4 owners if its just an expansion pack to the base game.

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#23 General_Solo76
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It’s not Spider-Man 2

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#24 Juub1990
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@Zero_epyon said:

That's dumb. Miles was a secondary character and he's getting a whole story line and game just for him. Did those same critics cry when Infamous first light came out saying "Why does the woman get an expansion and not a numbered sequel?"

In 2013, SJW weren't this obnoxious. If it happened today, yeah they'd bitch lol.

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@goldenelementxl said:

https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/1271468048017432577?s=21

It’s a stand-alone game. Nothing to see here

So... basically an expansion (but not really) released as stand-alone?

Schreier says it's "similar in scope to Uncharted Lost Legacy", so probably nowhere near the length of Spider-Man but not short enough to just be released as another DLC.

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#26 Djoffer123
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@wervenom: good good!

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#27 X_CAPCOM_X
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Hello misinformation thread: https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/12/21289299/insomniac-spider-man-miles-morales-standalone-ps5-game

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#28 osan0
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ok looks like its stand alone. PS4 spiderman is back on my list :D.

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@goldenelementxl said:

Journalists on social media calling this a race thing. “Why does the black man get an expansion and not a numbered sequel?” Gotta get them clicks during these trying times!

Those goddamn nitwits.

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#31  Edited By jg4xchamp
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It's a stand-alone expansion.

Peter Parker sucks

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#32  Edited By deactivated-63d1ad7651984
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They pulled a Arkham Origins and gave the city a Christmas setting I like that. But from a graphically stand point I don't see why this is a PS5 exclusive it looks exactly the same as the PS4 version from what we've seen so far.

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#33 Ghosts4ever
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Spiderman is shallow kiddy super hero.

Batman is real dark superhero and thats why his movies are better and so are his games.

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#34  Edited By Crazy_Chemist
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Spiderman is better. Batman isn’t even a superhero, he is a vigilante.

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#35 Litchie
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No interest either way. Man, Sony and their PS5 sound pretty boring. Like.. Sony has never been innovative, but PS5 sounds unusually boring, even for Sony standards.

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#36 Ghosts4ever
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@Litchie said:

No interest either way. Man, Sony and their PS5 sound pretty boring. Like.. Sony has never been innovative, but PS5 sounds unusually boring, even for Sony standards.

the best games shown at sony are all multiplats. Hitman 3, Deathloop and RE8.

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#37 johnd13
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I suspected as much considering the game was announced as Spiderman: Miles Morales instead of Spiderman 2.

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#38 nepu7supastar7
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@tdkmillsy:

Of course it's not coming to ps4. Then they'd have to pull back on the graphics a bit. And they want Spiderman: Morales to shine as much as it can. I'm not angry at all about that.

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@tdkmillsy said:

A standalone game that has the original game included thats only available for PS5

and thats ok?

Is stand alone...🤣🤣🤣

Only on PS5 and you begin your usual damage control after your thread failed.😂

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#40 Archangel3371  Online
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Yeah I pretty much came to that conclusion after seeing the trailer and the name of the game.

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@lamprey263 said:

It's probably using many of same assets used in last game, but it's in a new setting. I think it was a smart move as far as capitalizing on success of Spider-Verse movie, but I would have liked to have seen them try harder to capture the film's visual design. Still, Insomniac must have expanded quite a bit to be juggling that with their upcoming Ratchet and Clank game.

New setting?

I was under the assumption they were essentially copy-pasting the entire setting, hence the need for "it's an expansion".

Remember the grief Far Cry 4 got for copying the game world from Primal? Same thing.

But if it is in a different map, then nevermind.

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#42 tdkmillsy
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@tormentos said:
@tdkmillsy said:

A standalone game that has the original game included thats only available for PS5

and thats ok?

Is stand alone...🤣🤣🤣

Only on PS5 and you begin your usual damage control after your thread failed.😂

Perhaps someone should have told Sony Executives.

If your happy to have to buy a PS5 to buy an expansion rapped up in a stand alone game that could easily be released on PS4.

Then thats your stupidity/loss. But your expectations are supper low the second you mentioned your happy with a few RT reflections and 30FPS.

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Oh man cows are not going to buy this. They want their PS5 to play uncompromised games built from the ground up to fully take advantage of the ground breaking SSD. Like that Sesame Street game with the robot.

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#44 sealionact
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@X_CAPCOM_X: Of course it's a standalone. That's the point...theres no need for it to be. It's essentially a remaster, which could easily have been used as DLC on ps4. Same assets. The fact that it's only available on ps5 when it could have been made available for the 100m ps4 owners tells you a lot about Sonys policy in supporting consoles.

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#45  Edited By NathanDrakeSwag
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It's a glorified DLC and Miles is lame. This is not a system seller for me.

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#46 onesiphorus
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@crazy_chemist said:

Spiderman is better. Batman isn’t even a superhero, he is a vigilante.

Are both Spiderman and Batman vigilantes by nature? After all, they are not police officers, but civilians taking the law into their own hands?

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#47 Crazy_Chemist
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Spiderman actually has powers which makes him a superhero. batman doesn’t, he just has a ton of money for equipment but has no actual powers

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#48  Edited By StrongDeadlift
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@phbz said:

Oh man cows are not going to buy this. They want their PS5 to play uncompromised games built from the ground up to fully take advantage of the ground breaking SSD. Like that Sesame Street game with the robot.

And so it begins.

We told you cows, when you pretended to be outraged over Phil Spencer's comments a few months ago, when he said the first wave of games will be cross gen. Granted, phil spencer's sin was in verbalizing that out loud, we told you Cows that Sony was either going to do the same, or that they would arbitrarily gate off games that could very clearly run on current gen hardware, just to call them exclusives.

These consoles (neither of them) just arent that much more powerful than their last gen counter parts. The gap isnt big enough, full stop. This idea that the entire core foundational structures of games is going to see a paradigm shift this gen is silly. Like Uncharted 5 is suddenly going to become Star Citizen.

Its also puzzling why Cows seemed to have been expecting these wall to wall bangers out the gate for PS5, considering basically all of Sony's studios are accounted for. Either just wrapping big projects, or just starting big projects. We basically know what almost all of Sony's big studios are doing, within deductive reason.

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#49 deactivated-5f2b4872031c2
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It's a standalone game, not an expansion. This has already been confirmed.

/thread

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#50 Pedro
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So, its artificially locked to the PS5.😂