Spiderman: Shattered Dimensions = Activision trying to ride Batman: AA's success

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#1 Ryan_Som
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Don't get me wrong, but watching the video preview and the trailer for 2 of the dimensions, I get the feeling Activision is trying to capitalize on Batman: Arkham Asylum's success by rebooting Spiderman in a similar fashion. The game looks like it has a chance at being good, but I noticed a few similarities. The stealth, the pooling of actual comic book writers to write a story true to the backstory and previous Spiderman comics. Plus the fact that they're trying to be true to the lore of the series.

Maybe I'm wrong here, but I don't recall anybody going that deep for any other superhero game other than Arkham Asylum and definitely not in a previous Spiderman title. X-Men: Origins Wolverine centered around the movie, the Ultimate Alliance games were more focused on combat and multiplayer, and the Iron Man games have been a straight cash-in on movies and cartoons.

I'm just saying, everybody here knows how Activision is. It wouldn't surprise me if they saw the success of AA and how Rocksteady made it and said, "So THAT'S the formula!" and immediately told the devs to get working on it. The game looks decent, but I've never been a huge Spiderman fan like I am a Batman fan. Hopefully the game isn't an attempted cash-in on Acti's part (fat chance) and is actually good.

So what do you guys think? Agree? Disagree?

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#2 Randoggy
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Shouldn't be to hard to be better than Batman:AA, wasn't a very good game. Spider Man is way cooler anyways.
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Shouldn't be to hard to be better than Batman:AA, wasn't a very good game. Spider Man is way cooler anyways.Randoggy

Chu crazy mang. Batman is the bomb.

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Shouldn't be to hard to be better than Batman:AA, wasn't a very good game. .Randoggy
...really?
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#5 Anjunaddict
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Probably, but do you blame them. Also, arent the Spiderman films getting a reboot too? similar to the batman films reboot
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[QUOTE="Randoggy"]Shouldn't be to hard to be better than Batman:AA, wasn't a very good game. Spider Man is way cooler anyways.NoobisMaxcimus

Chu crazy mang. Batman is the bomb.

lol. He is crazy.
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#7 JangoWuzHere
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The trailer lacked 2 great things spider man needs.

-Open city to explore

-Web swinging

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I want this to be a good game. Spiderman is my favorite superhero. I like the direction they're going with it but i really want good web swing mechanics.
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Shouldn't be to hard to be better than Batman:AA, wasn't a very good game. Spider Man is way cooler anyways.Randoggy
You're trying to hard to be "different".
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#10 Lionheart08
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Don't get me wrong, but watching the video preview and the trailer for 2 of the dimensions, I get the feeling Activision is trying to capitalize on Batman: Arkham Asylum's success by rebooting Spiderman in a similar fashion. The game looks like it has a chance at being good, but I noticed a few similarities. The stealth, the pooling of actual comic book writers to write a story true to the backstory and previous Spiderman comics. Plus the fact that they're trying to be true to the lore of the series.

Ryan_Som

Activision did that previously with the Ultimate Spider-Man game back in 2005. That's 4 years before Arkham Asylum. :P

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#11 VauxhalI
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Oh, I remember that game. The Batman one, right? The one with the horrible controls?

And you're right! Comic book games should not have comic book stories! I completely agree, it defeats the purpose... I want to play as my favorite comic book characters, not some character with emotions and junk.

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#12 Ryan_Som
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[QUOTE="Ryan_Som"]

Don't get me wrong, but watching the video preview and the trailer for 2 of the dimensions, I get the feeling Activision is trying to capitalize on Batman: Arkham Asylum's success by rebooting Spiderman in a similar fashion. The game looks like it has a chance at being good, but I noticed a few similarities. The stealth, the pooling of actual comic book writers to write a story true to the backstory and previous Spiderman comics. Plus the fact that they're trying to be true to the lore of the series.

Lionheart08

Activision did that previously with the Ultimate Spider-Man game back in 2005. That's 4 years before Arkham Asylum. :P

Like I said in the paragraph that followed, I could be wrong.

Apparently I am. :oops:

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A well executed Spider-Man game could be excellent, never know though. And reading this thread...I really need to pick up Arkham Asylum, didn't realise it was rated highly :)
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[QUOTE="Randoggy"]Shouldn't be to hard to be better than Batman:AA, wasn't a very good game. Spider Man is way cooler anyways.Merex760
You're trying to hard to be "different".

Excuse me? I'm not trying to do anything, can I not think differently than you?
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#15 Lionheart08
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[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

[QUOTE="Ryan_Som"]

Don't get me wrong, but watching the video preview and the trailer for 2 of the dimensions, I get the feeling Activision is trying to capitalize on Batman: Arkham Asylum's success by rebooting Spiderman in a similar fashion. The game looks like it has a chance at being good, but I noticed a few similarities. The stealth, the pooling of actual comic book writers to write a story true to the backstory and previous Spiderman comics. Plus the fact that they're trying to be true to the lore of the series.

Ryan_Som

Activision did that previously with the Ultimate Spider-Man game back in 2005. That's 4 years before Arkham Asylum. :P

Like I said in the paragraph that followed, I could be wrong.

Apparently I am. :oops:

Oh won't deny, this is a case of follow the leader, but I don't think it's a bad thing. It's like the wave of FPSs released after Halo, Cover Systems following Gears of War, etc. This may lead to more Super Hero games.

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#16 Ryan_Som
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[QUOTE="Ryan_Som"]

[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

Activision did that previously with the Ultimate Spider-Man game back in 2005. That's 4 years before Arkham Asylum. :P

Lionheart08

Like I said in the paragraph that followed, I could be wrong.

Apparently I am. :oops:

Oh won't deny, this is a case of follow the leader, but I don't think it's a bad thing. It's like the wave of FPSs released after Halo, Cover Systems following Gears of War, etc. This may lead to more Super Hero games.

In that case, bring it on! :evil::P

Hmmm...what other superheros would do good to get this type of treatment?

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Shouldn't be to hard to be better than Batman:AA, wasn't a very good game. Spider Man is way cooler anyways.Randoggy
Is this a joke? Batman AA was a great game
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#18 BlancoBX
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why wouldnt people want a game based on a comic to be true to the source material, and have a story written by real comic book writers? That seems like a no brainer to me

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[QUOTE="Randoggy"]Shouldn't be to hard to be better than Batman:AA, wasn't a very good game. Spider Man is way cooler anyways.Diviniuz
Is this a joke? Batman AA was a great game

It is not a joke.
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#20 Ravensmash
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Arkham Asylum (which I will now be picking up) got a 92 on Metacritic....and an AAA on here. I wouldn't call that anything but good. Unless that's your opinion?
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#21 Randoggy
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Arkham Asylum (which I will now be picking up) got a 92 on Metacritic....and an AAA on here. I wouldn't call that anything but good. Unless that's your opinion?Ravensmash
What else would it be?
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#22 sammyjenkis898
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I've always wanted a really great Spider-Man game. If it's equal to the quality of Batman: Arkham Asylum. than count me in. A Game of the Year Spider-Man? Yes, please. Where is this trailer?
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#23 Ryan_Som
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why wouldnt people want a game based on a comic to be true to the source material, and have a story written by real comic book writers? That seems like a no brainer to me

BlancoBX

No no, I'm saying that's a GOOD thing. I'm also saying that Batman: Arkham Asylum was the first game to do it really well putting all those things together (story, atmosphere, stealth, action). It owes a lot to Bioshock in terms of its design but the synergy of these elements placed in a superhero game haven't really been done as well in any other superhero game. THAT is why I'm questioning the design choices based on what we're hearing about Spiderman: Shattered Dimensions so far. It looks to be the first game (possibly in a series) to be taking tips from Arkham Asylum.

Not a bad thing since AA was a great game. I'm sure Rocksteady would be flattered to be considered as the template for what makes a great superhero game. Still, Activision is known for taking things that are successful and replicating them en masse for a quick dollar. I'm just wondering if this is one of those cases.

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#24 BlancoBX
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[QUOTE="BlancoBX"]

why wouldnt people want a game based on a comic to be true to the source material, and have a story written by real comic book writers? That seems like a no brainer to me

Ryan_Som

No no, I'm saying that's a GOOD thing. I'm also saying that Batman: Arkham Asylum was the first game to do it really well putting all those things together (story, atmosphere, stealth, action). It owes a lot to Bioshock in terms of its design but the synergy of these elements placed in a superhero game haven't really been done as well in any other superhero game. THAT is why I'm questioning the design choices based on what we're hearing about Spiderman: Shattered Dimensions so far. It looks to be the first game (possibly in a series) to be taking tips from Arkham Asylum.

Not a bad thing since AA was a great game. I'm sure Rocksteady would be flattered to be considered as the template for what makes a great superhero game. Still, Activision is known for taking things that are successful and replicating them en masse for a quick dollar. I'm just wondering if this is one of those cases.

I knew what you meant, I just think that the "formula" that AA had was a no brainer from the beginning. I mean a comic game that has a story that is loyal to the source material, and written by real comic book writers should always be the formula for a comic book game..

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I don't support ActiFail anymore
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#26 Midnightshade29
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Shouldn't be to hard to be better than Batman:AA, wasn't a very good game. Spider Man is way cooler anyways.Randoggy
whaaaaa? I hope you have a 10' high flame-shield and a bullet proof vest buddy, batman AA was a killer AAA game , best superhero game in years. Spiderman has been milked to hell by milktivison.
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I want this to be a good game. Spiderman is my favorite superhero. I like the direction they're going with it but i really want good web swing mechanics.mrmusicman247
Did you play web of shadows ? I thought the web swinging was perfect for a spiderman game.

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#28 Ryan_Som
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[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"]I want this to be a good game. Spiderman is my favorite superhero. I like the direction they're going with it but i really want good web swing mechanics.GTSaiyanjin2

Did you play web of shadows ? I thought the web swinging was perfect for a spiderman game.

I didn't play it, but I heard that the aerial combat was pretty much the best part of that game. Here's to hoping Shattered Dimensions keeps the solid foundations that have previously been established and presents them in a more polished, all around balanced package.

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Shouldn't be to hard to be better than Batman:AA, wasn't a very good game. Spider Man is way cooler anyways.Randoggy
First off Batman >>>>>>>> Spider man and second BatMan: AA was one of the best games to come out last year. But SpiderMan SD does look okay but I'll have to pass on it though.

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#30 Ibacai
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Looks alright, I really liked Web of Shadows so I have no problem with Spiderman even if he's no Batman (But who the hell is? :P ) . As long as the combat is fun I'm game.
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#31 sammyjenkis898
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I just watched the trailer. It looks like a fun game, but it doesn't look anywhere near the level of Batman: Arkham Asylum. The art style reminded me of Ultimate Spider-Man (a really underrated game), so that's a plus.
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Probably, but do you blame them. Also, arent the Spiderman films getting a reboot too? similar to the batman films rebootAnjunaddict
It would be cool, but i thought the first spiderman film was good, the second was decent, and the third was trash. They just need to not make a mockery out of content and take it seriously, thats why the new batman movies are great, becaue they are giving batman the respect he deserves.

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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"]Arkham Asylum (which I will now be picking up) got a 92 on Metacritic....and an AAA on here. I wouldn't call that anything but good. Unless that's your opinion?Randoggy
What else would it be?

Flamebait?

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[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"]Probably, but do you blame them. Also, arent the Spiderman films getting a reboot too? similar to the batman films rebootSully28

It would be cool, but i thought the first spiderman film was good, the second was decent, and the third was trash. They just need to not make a mockery out of content and take it seriously, thats why the new batman movies are great, becaue they are giving batman the respect he deserves.

very true...but Batman and Spiderman are inherently very different books. For the most part Spiderman is a little bit lighter in content (i.e. not as much murdering and stuff like that except for the newer books with venom/carnage etc). Most of Batmans villains are a little easier to make into characters that people can take seriously and be afraid of. Spiderman while awesome as well, is not as morally embattled as Batman is, so I think spiderman movies would have to have an element of fun/humor to be done well enough to garner the ticket sales the studios desire.

I for one would be all about a darker take on spiderman, or at least an adaptation of one of the darker sagas from the books, but I dont think they would be as comercially successful, which ultimately depicts how movies end up

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Shouldn't you see this as a good thing? Batman: AA is not a cheap money-grab, but a game that was made by people who were clearly interested in bringing the franchise's potential out to its fullest in the game medium. If that's what they're trying to do with Spider-Man, I wish them the best of luck. I'm very apathetic to the character, so I may not play this, but I hope they pull it off well.
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Shouldn't be to hard to be better than Batman:AA, wasn't a very good game. Spider Man is way cooler anyways.Randoggy
So much fail in one sentence. What's your secret!?
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#37 Randoggy
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[QUOTE="Randoggy"][QUOTE="Ravensmash"]Arkham Asylum (which I will now be picking up) got a 92 on Metacritic....and an AAA on here. I wouldn't call that anything but good. Unless that's your opinion?tempest91

What else would it be?

Flamebait?

Sorry to disappoint you.
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[QUOTE="Randoggy"]Shouldn't be to hard to be better than Batman:AA, wasn't a very good game. Spider Man is way cooler anyways.xsubtownerx
So much fail in one sentence. What's your secret!?

Thinking differently than you?
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Shouldn't be to hard to be better than Batman:AA, wasn't a very good game. Spider Man is way cooler anyways.Randoggy
I'll agree that Spiderman is cooler, but Batman AA not a very good game!? :o Anyway, this one looks pretty sweet. If it's one game series that Activision makes that won't suck, it would be Spiderman (yeah, I actually liked Spiderman 3...never played Web of Shadows though).
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Shouldn't be to hard to be better than Batman:AA, wasn't a very good game. Spider Man is way cooler anyways.Randoggy
you insane!? Batman AA was amazing!
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Meghan Morgan is a sexy fox and I want her. Wait, what?

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#42 farnham
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this claim is ridiculous.. of course they are having some levels with spiderman noir that look similar to batman arkham.. but they also have levels that look like the amazing spiderman game they did back in the days..

they are trying to mix differing visual styles here which is something arkham assylum did not do at all

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A ripoff cash in would suck. But another game of the quality of Arkham Asylum would be welcome indeed :D
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Shouldn't be to hard to be better than Batman:AA, wasn't a very good game. Spider Man is way cooler anyways.Randoggy

Batman AA was a great game... What game did you played?

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[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"][QUOTE="Randoggy"]Shouldn't be to hard to be better than Batman:AA, wasn't a very good game. Spider Man is way cooler anyways.Randoggy
So much fail in one sentence. What's your secret!?

Thinking differently than you?

Atleast give reasons... Because I say so doesn't really cut it.

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I don't support ActiFail anymoretomarlyn
A good game is a good game. Hell, think of the poor developers underneath Activision's banner. I would love a Spider Man game comparable to Arkham Asylum. Hopefully, this one can reach those heights :)