Spike TV VGAs 2011 Thread, Skyrim wins GOTY

Skyrim doesn't deserved this, in fact it doesn't deserves all this hype. For me is a regular game that doesn't interests me.. same happened with Morrowind and Oblivion. The Fallout series are way superior than Elder Scrolls if you ask me. Batman should have win this. But then, VGAs is the event-joke of the year so..

No.

I think it should have been Zelda.

[QUOTE="LE5LO"]

[QUOTE="MirkoS77"]How is a game that is so bug-ridden that one bug essentially renders it unplayable able to nab GotY? Shouldn't this be taken into account?layton2012

Though I've played just about every single/triple A this yeat except Skyrim, I get the impression it won based on how much the game offers you, as opposed to games with more of a linear focus.

Ok then, the PC version and the 360 one I guess won the goty.

No matter what you think of Skyrim, it's an unpolished, unfinished mess at the moment. It shouldn't have won GOTY.Planeforger

And yet.... It did. herpderp

[QUOTE="MirkoS77"]How is a game that is so bug-ridden that one bug essentially renders it unplayable able to nab GotY? Shouldn't this be taken into account?PSP107

Skyrim doesn't deserved this, in fact it doesn't deserves all this hype. For me is a regular game that doesn't interests me.. same happened with Morrowind and Oblivion. The Fallout series are way superior than Elder Scrolls if you ask me. Batman should have win this. But then, VGAs is the event-joke of the year so..

tjricardo089

Why does anyone care about your opinion? Many others like the game compared to you. It got a 9 on GS and has a 96 on MC. Lots of people like it.

No matter what you think of Skyrim, it's an unpolished, unfinished mess at the moment. It shouldn't have won GOTY.Planeforger

Skyrim is a great game for those who love that kind of game. One of the best games in recent times, considering the amount content and the fact that it's an SP game. But even though it's one of the best games, it shouldn't have won GotY. For the simple reason being that the PS3 version is having that game breaking lag bug. No, don't talk rubbish about PS3 not being able to handle it. If that was the case, Bethesda should've made it PC/X360 only. Now I'm a PC-only gamer, so I don't personally care about the PS3 issue. But the fact that developers can get away with this sloppiness and then win GotY as well really does not bode well. I don't understand why people don't see this.starjet905

I thought UC3 would win, but good to see Skyrim win.

i think witcher 2 deserved it more, but skyrim was a close second to me, so im ok with that

[QUOTE="layton2012"][QUOTE="LE5LO"]

Though I've played just about every single/triple A this yeat except Skyrim, I get the impression it won based on how much the game offers you, as opposed to games with more of a linear focus.

Ok then, the PC version and the 360 one I guess won the goty.

I really wanted Arkham City to win, but I do feel Skyrim is equally deserving. I'm happy either way :)

Well, the VGA is in the past tense. There's Gamespot, IGN, and others that matter more than the VGA still coming up.

im just glad zelda didnt win. i hope this trend continues

I really wanted Arkham City to win, but I do feel Skyrim is equally deserving. I'm happy either way :)

AdobeArtist

im just glad zelda didnt win. i hope this trend continues

arbitor365

[QUOTE="MirkoS77"]How is a game that is so bug-ridden that one bug essentially renders it unplayable able to nab GotY? Shouldn't this be taken into account?GD1551

I guess they are counting the best experience rather than the worst.

Best experience? Have you seen the videos and been paying attention to the controversy that this bug has been producing? I don't think bugs should prohibit a game from getting GotY as they are inherent to the nature of the medium and can understand texture problems, backwards flying dragons, slight FR drops, etc. especially in a game as large and complex as Skyrim, but this is different. This bug makes the game nearly unplayable, and if not, certainly unenjoyable. And even worse, it is not a simple fix through a patch, but stems directly due to how the game is programmed and will more than likely remain a problem permanently.

Now I'm sorry, but if I were a judge there's no way in hell any game suffering such an issue would be nominated, much less awarded. What kind of message is it sending to praise such effort? Bethesda deserves no such accolades. GotY should be determined on all aspects of design, not just content and the experience it provides. Looked at as a whole. And even if it has the content, the experience is seriously marred and ruined by this problem.

How anybody can defend Skyrim getting GotY boggles my mind.

LOL 2 best games Dark Souls and Catherine didn't even get nominated

And crappy unplayable bug fest won ROFL

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

[QUOTE="MirkoS77"]How is a game that is so bug-ridden that one bug essentially renders it unplayable able to nab GotY? Shouldn't this be taken into account?MirkoS77

I guess they are counting the best experience rather than the worst.

Best experience? Have you seen the videos and been paying attention to the controversy that this bug has been producing? I don't think bugs should prohibit a game from getting GotY as they are inherent to the nature of the medium and can understand texture problems, backwards flying dragons, slight FR drops, etc. especially in a game as large and complex as Skyrim, but this is different. This bug makes the game nearly unplayable, and if not, certainly unenjoyable. And even worse, it is not a simple fix through a patch, but stems directly due to how the game is programmed and will more than likely remain a problem permanently.

Now I'm sorry, but if I were a judge there's no way in hell any game suffering such an issue would be nominated, much less awarded. What kind of message is it sending to praise such effort? Bethesda deserves no such accolades. GotY should be determined on all aspects of design, not just content and the experience it provides. Looked at as a whole. And even if it has the content, the experience is seriously marred and ruined by this problem.

How anybody can defend Skyrim getting GotY boggles my mind.

It only happens on PS3, the best experience is obviously on PC and that's what most will go with.

[QUOTE="MirkoS77"]

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

I guess they are counting the best experience rather than the worst.

GD1551

Best experience? Have you seen the videos and been paying attention to the controversy that this bug has been producing? I don't think bugs should prohibit a game from getting GotY as they are inherent to the nature of the medium and can understand texture problems, backwards flying dragons, slight FR drops, etc. especially in a game as large and complex as Skyrim, but this is different. This bug makes the game nearly unplayable, and if not, certainly unenjoyable. And even worse, it is not a simple fix through a patch, but stems directly due to how the game is programmed and will more than likely remain a problem permanently.

Now I'm sorry, but if I were a judge there's no way in hell any game suffering such an issue would be nominated, much less awarded. What kind of message is it sending to praise such effort? Bethesda deserves no such accolades. GotY should be determined on all aspects of design, not just content and the experience it provides. Looked at as a whole. And even if it has the content, the experience is seriously marred and ruined by this problem.

How anybody can defend Skyrim getting GotY boggles my mind.

It only happens on PS3, the best experience is obviously on PC and that's what most will go with.

[QUOTE="arbitor365"]

im just glad zelda didnt win. i hope this trend continues

Shinobishyguy

im just glad zelda didnt win. i hope this trend continues

arbitor365

I'm actually very disappointed with Skyrim. It feels like Oblivion with better graphics and dragons.

Morrowind was a HUGE leap forward after Daggerfall.

Then Oblivion was another impressive leap forward after Morrowind.

Then Bethesda decided that no matter what they put out there, they'll make a lot of money because people already like their game engine they used in Oblivion and Fallout 3.

There's nothing noticeably better about Skyrim. It doesn't do much to set itself apart from Oblivion.

[QUOTE="starjet905"]Skyrim is a great game for those who love that kind of game. One of the best games in recent times, considering the amount content and the fact that it's an SP game. But even though it's one of the best games, it shouldn't have won GotY. For the simple reason being that the PS3 version is having that game breaking lag bug. No, don't talk rubbish about PS3 not being able to handle it. If that was the case, Bethesda should've made it PC/X360 only. Now I'm a PC-only gamer, so I don't personally care about the PS3 issue. But the fact that developers can get away with this sloppiness and then win GotY as well really does not bode well. I don't understand why people don't see this.lusitanogamer

[QUOTE="MirkoS77"]

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

I guess they are counting the best experience rather than the worst.

GD1551

Best experience? Have you seen the videos and been paying attention to the controversy that this bug has been producing? I don't think bugs should prohibit a game from getting GotY as they are inherent to the nature of the medium and can understand texture problems, backwards flying dragons, slight FR drops, etc. especially in a game as large and complex as Skyrim, but this is different. This bug makes the game nearly unplayable, and if not, certainly unenjoyable. And even worse, it is not a simple fix through a patch, but stems directly due to how the game is programmed and will more than likely remain a problem permanently.

Now I'm sorry, but if I were a judge there's no way in hell any game suffering such an issue would be nominated, much less awarded. What kind of message is it sending to praise such effort? Bethesda deserves no such accolades. GotY should be determined on all aspects of design, not just content and the experience it provides. Looked at as a whole. And even if it has the content, the experience is seriously marred and ruined by this problem.

How anybody can defend Skyrim getting GotY boggles my mind.

It only happens on PS3, the best experience is obviously on PC and that's what most will go with.

[QUOTE="lusitanogamer"][QUOTE="starjet905"]Skyrim is a great game for those who love that kind of game. One of the best games in recent times, considering the amount content and the fact that it's an SP game. But even though it's one of the best games, it shouldn't have won GotY. For the simple reason being that the PS3 version is having that game breaking lag bug. No, don't talk rubbish about PS3 not being able to handle it. If that was the case, Bethesda should've made it PC/X360 only. Now I'm a PC-only gamer, so I don't personally care about the PS3 issue. But the fact that developers can get away with this sloppiness and then win GotY as well really does not bode well. I don't understand why people don't see this.Frostbite24

No, it's not. What version are you playing?

[QUOTE="Frostbite24"][QUOTE="lusitanogamer"] Well said. Skyrim should have never won, not when it's broken in one console and has soo many quest breaking bugs in all platforms.MirkoS77

No, it's not. What version are you playing?

I play on the PC and the game is fine. The PS3 version isn't terrible, really, if you don't mind the shoddy textures. 200 hours in here (played the moment it unlocked on Steam).

And if you're using this logic that because one version of the game is a console port, isn't it fair to apply that to bad PC ports? Examples: GTA IV is a terrible game because the PC version runs like butt and doesn't even support AA; Assassin's Creed II is a bad game because of restrictive always-online DRM in the PC version; Modern Warfare 3 is garbage because it doesn't have ranked or dedicated servers on PC; Arkham City is horrible because it didn't have working DX11 support at launch that didn't kill frames.

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

[QUOTE="MirkoS77"]

Best experience? Have you seen the videos and been paying attention to the controversy that this bug has been producing? I don't think bugs should prohibit a game from getting GotY as they are inherent to the nature of the medium and can understand texture problems, backwards flying dragons, slight FR drops, etc. especially in a game as large and complex as Skyrim, but this is different. This bug makes the game nearly unplayable, and if not, certainly unenjoyable. And even worse, it is not a simple fix through a patch, but stems directly due to how the game is programmed and will more than likely remain a problem permanently.

Now I'm sorry, but if I were a judge there's no way in hell any game suffering such an issue would be nominated, much less awarded. What kind of message is it sending to praise such effort? Bethesda deserves no such accolades. GotY should be determined on all aspects of design, not just content and the experience it provides. Looked at as a whole. And even if it has the content, the experience is seriously marred and ruined by this problem.

How anybody can defend Skyrim getting GotY boggles my mind.

MirkoS77

It only happens on PS3, the best experience is obviously on PC and that's what most will go with.

I'm actually very disappointed with Skyrim. It feels like Oblivion with better graphics and dragons.

Morrowind was a HUGE leap forward after Daggerfall.

Then Oblivion was another impressive leap forward after Morrowind.

Then Bethesda decided that no matter what they put out there, they'll make a lot of money because people already like their game engine they used in Oblivion and Fallout 3.

There's nothing noticeably better about Skyrim. It doesn't do much to set itself apart from Oblivion.

GeoffZak

lol... get educated son... then come back and speak sense... cuz all I can hear is "Wahhhh... wahhhh...GRAFIX! Where's mAH GRAFIX! Wahhh... wahhhh"

Skyrim is a huge improvement over the mediocrity of Oblivion's copy paste dungeons and boring Main Quest line.... GO GETS DAT OBLIVION GATE.... HEY, HEY.... THERE"S ANOTHER GATE.... GO GET IT..... WATCH OUT BEHIND YOU!!!! iTS ANOTHER OBLIVION GATE!"

[QUOTE="MirkoS77"]

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

It only happens on PS3, the best experience is obviously on PC and that's what most will go with.

Frostbite24

How can you claim such a thing? Think about what you're saying. This game is basically fundamentally broken on the PS3. I don't care if it works on the PC. If Bethesda cannot accomplish what they intend on a specific platform before release, they should not release it. They KNEW about this issue before the game even hit the shelves. And here it gets awarded for such behavior.

So you're saying it's excusable to release a game in such condition on one platform if it works fine on another? Brother....

[QUOTE="Frostbite24"][QUOTE="MirkoS77"]But not everyone. Again, taken as a whole. I'd be curious to see the sales figures across all systems. PS3 owners have been screwed over, and I hear even the 360 version has problems though it takes a bit longer play-time for it to manifest. These problems should not be overlooked because it works fine on one platform.

MirkoS77

How can you claim such a thing? Think about what you're saying. This game is basically fundamentally broken on the PS3. I don't care if it works on the PC. If Bethesda cannot accomplish what they intend on a specific platform before release, they should not release it. They KNEW about this issue before the game even hit the shelves. And here it gets awarded for such behavior.

So you're saying it's excusable to release a game in such condition on one platform if it works fine on another? Brother....

the Sony Awards on Spike TV were garbage.

[QUOTE="MirkoS77"]

[QUOTE="Frostbite24"] These problems most certainly should be overlooked if someone is enjoying the game on another, working platform such as the 360 or PC. If you don't have the game on PS3 then why would you give a ****? This is why I didn't limit myself to only one platform.Frostbite24

How can you claim such a thing? Think about what you're saying. This game is basically fundamentally broken on the PS3. I don't care if it works on the PC. If Bethesda cannot accomplish what they intend on a specific platform before release, they should not release it. They KNEW about this issue before the game even hit the shelves. And here it gets awarded for such behavior.

So you're saying it's excusable to release a game in such condition on one platform if it works fine on another? Brother....

My problem? My problem is that Bayonetta/Dragon Age were not so impeded by a bug that made it unplayable on one system over another. THAT's my problem, do you really have to ask? People that are limited to one platform (as many are) should not be penalized because the developer is too incompetent to sufficiently properly program their games for one system. Tell the huge amount of PS3 owners who bought Skyrim, "Sorry, you shouldn't limit yourself to one platform". It's not their fault, the fault lies squarely with Bethesda here. I agree people shouldn't play on one system only, but that's because I don't believe they should limit themselves to certain games, not because I think they should have an alternate solution when a game is released that is so poorly engineered it doesn't work.

Again: you're saying it's excusable to release a game in such condition on one platform if it works fine on another? You astonish me. I think what Bethesda has allowed here is inexcusable and should not be tolerated, much less rewarded.

Then Oblivion was another impressive leap forward after Morrowind.GeoffZak

No.

Oblivion did nothing better than Morrowind other than combat (which was just BARELY better but still bad in a whole new way) and more advanced tech. Everything else gameplay and story-related was worse or equal...mostly worse.

In Skyrim they actually improved things, e.g. made the combat decent, varied the dungeons much more than in Oblivion. added a crafting system, made a better lockpicking game, etc. I don't know if it deserves GOTY, but it deserves it a hell of a lot more than Oblivion did, I'll tell you that.

[QUOTE="Frostbite24"][QUOTE="MirkoS77"]

How can you claim such a thing? Think about what you're saying. This game is basically fundamentally broken on the PS3. I don't care if it works on the PC. If Bethesda cannot accomplish what they intend on a specific platform before release, they should not release it. They KNEW about this issue before the game even hit the shelves. And here it gets awarded for such behavior.

So you're saying it's excusable to release a game in such condition on one platform if it works fine on another? Brother....

MirkoS77

My problem? My problem is that Bayonetta/Dragon Age were not so impeded by a bug that made it unplayable on one system over another. THAT's my problem, do you really have to ask? People that are limited to one platform (as many are) should not be penalized because the developer is too incompetent to sufficiently properly program their games for one system. Tell the huge amount of PS3 owners who bought Skyrim, "Sorry, you shouldn't limit yourself to one platform". It's not their fault, the fault lies squarely with Bethesda here. I agree people shouldn't play on one system only, but that's because I don't believe they should limit themselves to certain games, not because I think they should have an alternate solution when a game is released that is so poorly engineered it doesn't work.

Again: you're saying it's excusable to release a game in such condition on one platform if it works fine on another? You astonish me. I think what Bethesda has allowed here is inexcusable and should not be tolerated, much less rewarded.

Batman Arkham City or Portal 2 deserved GOTY more than Skyrim, imo. Skyrim has way too many flaws to be GOTY.

[QUOTE="starjet905"]Skyrim is a great game for those who love that kind of game. One of the best games in recent times, considering the amount content and the fact that it's an SP game. But even though it's one of the best games, it shouldn't have won GotY. For the simple reason being that the PS3 version is having that game breaking lag bug. No, don't talk rubbish about PS3 not being able to handle it. If that was the case, Bethesda should've made it PC/X360 only. Now I'm a PC-only gamer, so I don't personally care about the PS3 issue. But the fact that developers can get away with this sloppiness and then win GotY as well really does not bode well. I don't understand why people don't see this.lusitanogamer

[QUOTE="lusitanogamer"][QUOTE="starjet905"]Skyrim is a great game for those who love that kind of game. One of the best games in recent times, considering the amount content and the fact that it's an SP game. But even though it's one of the best games, it shouldn't have won GotY. For the simple reason being that the PS3 version is having that game breaking lag bug. No, don't talk rubbish about PS3 not being able to handle it. If that was the case, Bethesda should've made it PC/X360 only. Now I'm a PC-only gamer, so I don't personally care about the PS3 issue. But the fact that developers can get away with this sloppiness and then win GotY as well really does not bode well. I don't understand why people don't see this.Da_lil_PimP

Anyone who thought skyrim was not going to win GOTY was in serious denial.

I'm not excusing anything, i'm saying the problems people have with the PS3 version of this game means nothing to me because I do not limit myself to playing on just one system, and the other 2 systems this game is on work just fine. You'd say that no one should buy a PS3 because Sony released it with a chance of getting YLoD rendering it inoperable. What were they thinking!? grrr. Bottom line I'm playing one of the best games this year with no problems and I'm glad Bethesda got my money. It's okay for people to like something you don't.

Frostbite24

This has nothing to do with me or what I like or dislike; it's not a subjective issue. And yes, you're very much excusing what's going on simply because you're not having a problem that many others are. Your analogy is also extremely flawed, not all PS3s suffer from the YloD, do they? Did Sony test every PS3 and find out after so many hours every system got a YloD? And then release it anyway? EVERY copy of PS3 Skyrim suffers from this problem and they knew about it before it got kicked out the door.

I've said my peace. Skyrim does not deserve GotY at all. And there's no "Skyrim GotY for PC, ignore the PS3 version" award. No, it's a reflection of the game as a whole across the board.

[QUOTE="Shielder7"]Anyone else wondering how Zelda Skyward Sword even made it on the list? It didn't really win anything anyway, but they should of given the spot to a game more deserving like Gears 3 or Dead Space 2. I also think Batman or Uncharted 3 should of won.Captain_Lorelli

Ummm...because it deserves to be there. GS isn't the holy grail of game reviews it has a metacritic and gamernakings average of 93+...yea.