Square Enix gives fans the finger, kills Chrono Trigger: Crimson Echoes

I dont know if this is exactly the right place to post this stuff but i think fans from every base are starting to get pissed at SE.

Crappy Westernised JRPGs, lousy ports, Lies and now this.

Square Enix Kills Near Complete Chrono TriggerFan Project

"Square Enix's legal team also casually notes that the damages for this kind of infringement are "up to $150,000 per work." TOTAL BS

If FFXIII turns out to be another lame attempt to appeal to the western market you SE can kiss my $€£ goodbye.

Omg se is so eviL!1!!!1! :cry:

This has happened before and no one cares. It's a fan remake. It's played on an emulator. Whoppity ****ing doo.

Well, wasn't this going to be an illegal remake?

I'm not defending S-E here but it's not like they have done anything really horribly.

They have the right t control their properties and not allow things like this to be released. It's well within their rights.

Well, wasn't this going to be an illegal remake?

I'm not defending S-E here but it's not like they have done anything really horribly.

JLF1

It wasn't a remake, it was a completely new fanbased chrono game. The only part that I think is horrible that the game has been in development for 5 years and would have been completed next month and now SE decides to stop it. I don't see what is the problem, the game is only a emulator and would not be sold. I would be thrilled if someone took that much time to create a fanmade game. It is pretty much like someone making a story/mod for Neverwinter Nights 2 and Obsidian pulling the plug on it because it is using Neverwinter Nights.

""Crimson Echoes, while technically a new game, was created by lifting images and objects from an original Chrono Trigger ROM file. Unsurprisingly, this upset the team of lawyers at the Final Fantasy creator.

Characterizing CT:CE as a "deliberate and willful" act of copyright violation, the letter (PDF) demands that its creators "immediately remove, take down, delete and destroy all work on the project."

What what if they refuse to comply? Square Enix's legal team also casually notes that the damages for this kind of infringement are "up to $150,000 per work."""

It's not like SE did it just to piss fans off..

""Crimson Echoes, while technically a new game, was created by lifting images and objects from an original Chrono Trigger ROM file. Unsurprisingly, this upset the team of lawyers at the Final Fantasy creator.

Characterizing CT:CE as a "deliberate and willful" act of copyright violation, the letter (PDF) demands that its creators "immediately remove, take down, delete and destroy all work on the project."

What what if they refuse to comply? Square Enix's legal team also casually notes that the damages for this kind of infringement are "up to $150,000 per work."""

It's not like SE did it just to piss fans off..

[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]

""Crimson Echoes, while technically a new game, was created by lifting images and objects from an original Chrono Trigger ROM file. Unsurprisingly, this upset the team of lawyers at the Final Fantasy creator.

Characterizing CT:CE as a "deliberate and willful" act of copyright violation, the letter (PDF) demands that its creators "immediately remove, take down, delete and destroy all work on the project."

What what if they refuse to comply? Square Enix's legal team also casually notes that the damages for this kind of infringement are "up to $150,000 per work."""

It's not like SE did it just to piss fans off..

-Reggaeton-

Exactly, it is like I stated earlier. This is just like releasing a story mod for games like NWN.

[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]

""Crimson Echoes, while technically a new game, was created by lifting images and objects from an original Chrono Trigger ROM file. Unsurprisingly, this upset the team of lawyers at the Final Fantasy creator.

Characterizing CT:CE as a "deliberate and willful" act of copyright violation, the letter (PDF) demands that its creators "immediately remove, take down, delete and destroy all work on the project."

What what if they refuse to comply? Square Enix's legal team also casually notes that the damages for this kind of infringement are "up to $150,000 per work."""

It's not like SE did it just to piss fans off..

-Reggaeton-

Yeah I see your point.

Shame though. The game looked really good.

Nooooooooooooooo :cry: i hate you squareenix:cry:

This news is a few years old.

We're probably now hearing about the end result, but I read about SE suing this fanmade project years ago in an issue of EGM. Regardless of how awesome an updated Version would of been, this is clearly illegal.

This game could of been something maybe even better than what SquareEnix been putting out lately.:(

[QUOTE="-Reggaeton-"][QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]

""Crimson Echoes, while technically a new game, was created by lifting images and objects from an original Chrono Trigger ROM file. Unsurprisingly, this upset the team of lawyers at the Final Fantasy creator.

Characterizing CT:CE as a "deliberate and willful" act of copyright violation, the letter (PDF) demands that its creators "immediately remove, take down, delete and destroy all work on the project."

What what if they refuse to comply? Square Enix's legal team also casually notes that the damages for this kind of infringement are "up to $150,000 per work."""

It's not like SE did it just to piss fans off..

SpinoRaptor24

Yeah I see your point.

Shame though. The game looked really good.

the game didn't look that great, but i don't agree with how SE dealt with the matter - it really puts them in a bad light; makes them seem even more distant and somewhat cruel in a way.

This news is a few years old.

We're probably now hearing about the end result, but I read about SE suing this fanmade project years ago in an issue of EGM. Regardless of how awesome an updated Version would of been, this is clearly illegal.

Blue-Sky

No, this news is a few days old... This isn't the first fanmade project to receive a C & D from SE... you're referring to Chrono Trigger Resurrection,which was supposed to be a 3-D remake of CT, this is referring to Crimson Echoes, which would've taken place directly after CT...

This news is a few years old.

We're probably now hearing about the end result, but I read about SE suing this fanmade project years ago in an issue of EGM. Regardless of how awesome an updated Version would of been, this is clearly illegal.

Blue-Sky

This is different, did you read the letter that SE wrote in the link? They state if they do not remove and cease everything relating to the game they will follow up with legal action.

""Crimson Echoes, while technically a new game, was created by lifting images and objects from an original Chrono Trigger ROM file. Unsurprisingly, this upset the team of lawyers at the Final Fantasy creator.

Characterizing CT:CE as a "deliberate and willful" act of copyright violation, the letter (PDF) demands that its creators "immediately remove, take down, delete and destroy all work on the project."

What what if they refuse to comply? Square Enix's legal team also casually notes that the damages for this kind of infringement are "up to $150,000 per work."""

It's not like SE did it just to piss fans off..

[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

This news is a few years old.

We're probably now hearing about the end result, but I read about SE suing this fanmade project years ago in an issue of EGM. Regardless of how awesome an updated Version would of been, this is clearly illegal.

Toki1776

No, this news is a few days old... This isn't the first fanmade project to receive a C & D from SE... you're referring to Chrono Trigger Resurrection,which was supposed to be a 3-D remake of CT, this is referring to Crimson Echoes, which would've taken place directly after CT...

Exactly.

Game looked really interesting. I don't know, if SE is so adamant about not letting fans make a new CT project, why doesn't SE make one themselves? SE is busy with Fabula Nova Crystallis Final Fantasy XIII collection, but come on - fans have been asking for a new Chrono game ever since 2000. Not a remake like CT on the DS.

I dont know if this is exactly the right place to post this stuff but i think fans from every base are starting to get pissed at SE.

Crappy Westernised JRPGs, lousy ports, Lies and now this.

Square Enix Kills Near Complete Chrono TriggerFan Project

"Square Enix's legal team also casually notes that the damages for this kind of infringement are "up to $150,000 per work." TOTAL BS

If FFXIII turns out to be another lame attempt to appeal to the western market you SE can kiss my $€£ goodbye.

-Reggaeton-

Your probably one of them guys who hates all numbered FF games after 6 for know good reason as well im guessing.

I need to think up a name for elitist FF players.

Oh and it is there IP as well so give them a break, why dont you go and remake Halo CE or anyother popular game without permission and see what happens.

It is a bummer, but what are you gonna do.

I think its just cruel that the game was 98% done! Its kind of a slap in the face.

This is the new Square the square that was brainwashed by EA into releaseing inane ports, inane remakes, and rererereleasing their games and crushing any talented spirit that even thinks of using square properties.

This is one of the reasons I hate square now.

And ths my friends, is why Valve is king.Drukter

This is the new Square the square that was brainwashed by EA into releaseing inane ports, inane remakes, and rererereleasing their games and crushing any talented spirit that even thinks of using square properties.

This is one of the reasons I hate square now.

WilliamRLBaker

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

This is the new Square the square that was brainwashed by EA into releaseing inane ports, inane remakes, and rererereleasing their games and crushing any talented spirit that even thinks of using square properties.

This is one of the reasons I hate square now.

HarlockJC

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

This is the new Square the square that was brainwashed by EA into releaseing inane ports, inane remakes, and rererereleasing their games and crushing any talented spirit that even thinks of using square properties.

This is one of the reasons I hate square now.

HarlockJC

[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

This is the new Square the square that was brainwashed by EA into releaseing inane ports, inane remakes, and rererereleasing their games and crushing any talented spirit that even thinks of using square properties.

This is one of the reasons I hate square now.

Drukter

I understand how you a fan want this game. But it is wrong and only a fool would have started down a process to make the game to begin with. If they want to make a game so bad then they should make their own IP and not steal from others.

I certainly know square would have been a hell of a lot nicer and maybe even let them release it or promoted it or something, It was fans taking something they love and making something new with all benefit going to square and not to them selves, Square changed when it joined with EA in the first part of ps1 releases they started rerererererereleaseing games, comming down on any one working on any thing to do with their properties and all around producing crap.

WilliamRLBaker

The fact that Square is now with EPIC not EA would change nothing. These people wanted to use Square's IP to make a game. If they want to make a game so bad then they should have came up with their own story and went from their. Not steal a story from someone else.

Give them a break. If I was in the same position, I would have done the same. Only $150,000, I would have upped that price. There just doing what anyother company in that position would have done. When comes down to the legal issues then its totally understandable.

If you think about it, I would take it even farther. All the heart and soul put into CT and CC, all the sweat, years by the teams involved in the projects,..... yeah I would be pissed if I was even them.