Square wants me to save a ton of money, now will konami do the same?

The only current gen system I own right now is a 360. So far there have only been 2 reasons I'd be interested in a ps3, which are ff13 and mgs4. Quite frankly, just about any other ps3 game i'd want is also on 360.

Square just gave me one less reason to buy a ps3 after looking at how many more 360 owners there are in us and europe than ps3 owners. How long will it be before konami does the same and comes to their senses with their own flagship franchise? I'd be surprised if they could turn much of a profit selling a game that cost so much money to produce on a system that hardly anyone owns.

I really envied FF13 but now we get it too ! :P ANd Star OCean.AtrumRegina

I know, I can't wait. Now all I need is a new Phantasy Star game (not a MMO) for my 360, and I'll be set.

I personally think that Konami should port the game to the 360 and find some sort of way to create an online battle between 360 and PS3 players....It would be fun....but since I already own a PS3 as well as MGS4...I have to admit that I really don't care much for its destination seeing that I've already enjoyed it. ;p verbalfilth

I don't think that would be possible considering how radically different their online networks are.

More like "Square wants to make more money" :Pcifru

Yeah, see? Everyone wins! (except for sony haha)

MGS4 will stay with the ps3. Did you see the in game ads with sony products? Money was passed around to keep it exclusive.

Sony:"we'll give you money to advertise our products in your game *wink*"

Konami:"ok we accept *wink*"

You still have to buy a PS3 for FF13 Versus and MGS4!!! If you want M.A.G you must have a PS3!! Have a nice day!!Gamersince81

How long will it be before versus is also ported to the 360? And it wouldn't be the first time mgs got ported to the xbox.

Konami already making tons of money with MGS4 on PS3 alone.......... Why would they want to waste their time to port this game to 360 ? 360 version are never guarantee to seel more than PS3 version.Foxhound_spy

Uh....well.....let's think about it, genius......why would they want to port a game? hmm..... maybe to make MORE MONEY?

My situation is unfortunate... The game I really want for the PS3 is Tekken 6, and even if it were to come to the 360, the PS3 controller is much better suited to fighters, so I might have to get a PS3 for it... Which really rankles seeing as they keep on stripping backwards compatibility from their PS3 models, and that's a feature that's very important to me!Shafftehr

I promised myself that I wouldn't buy any current gen consol and just stick to PC because the prices were just too much (for consoles), but after the release of MGS4 I decided to get a PS3

I managed to buy my 80 gig mgs4 bundle for only $300 (went to gamestop and traded a lot of my old games that I never played for instore credit) if you have a bunch of games you don't play and don't see yourself ever wanting to play them, I'd suggest you trade them in as soon as possible before the trade in prices get worse.

[QUOTE="Foxhound_spy"]Konami already making tons of money with MGS4 on PS3 alone.......... Why would they want to waste their time to port this game to 360 ? 360 version are never guarantee to seel more than PS3 version.UT_Wrestler

Uh....well.....let's think about it, genius......why would they want to port a game? hmm..... maybe to make MORE MONEY?

Yeah to make money.......So that means SO4, TOV and other 360 exclusive need to be port to PS3 as well right ?

[QUOTE="Gamersince81"]You still have to buy a PS3 for FF13 Versus and MGS4!!! If you want M.A.G you must have a PS3!! Have a nice day!!UT_Wrestler

How long will it be before versus is also ported to the 360? And it wouldn't be the first time mgs got ported to the xbox.

Oh and how did MGS2 sell on the xbox??

My situation is unfortunate... The game I really want for the PS3 is Tekken 6, and even if it were to come to the 360, the PS3 controller is much better suited to fighters, so I might have to get a PS3 for it... Which really rankles seeing as they keep on stripping backwards compatibility from their PS3 models, and that's a feature that's very important to me!Shafftehr

I hated the PS1/PS2 controller for fighting games (worst ever in my opinion, I hate that d-pad). However any real fighting game fan would buy an arcade stick anyways, so controller preference shouldn't matter. Arcade stick > Any controller, all day every day.

[QUOTE="UT_Wrestler"]

[QUOTE="Gamersince81"]You still have to buy a PS3 for FF13 Versus and MGS4!!! If you want M.A.G you must have a PS3!! Have a nice day!!micky4889

How long will it be before versus is also ported to the 360? And it wouldn't be the first time mgs got ported to the xbox.

Oh and how did MGS2 sell on the xbox??

Metal Gear Solid 2 was the worst MGS ever made. Second off it came out on Xbox a while after it came out on PS2 so all the hype for it was dead, and many had already either played the game or heard enough about it to know it wasn't worth their time. Had something like MGS Twin Snakes or another similar MGS that was souped up graphically, than I think it would have done better.

I don't think saving people money was high on Square's agenda when they decided to make FFXIII multiplat...

Im pretty sure there are more PS3s in Europe then 360smicky4889

I promised myself that I wouldn't buy any current gen consol and just stick to PC because the prices were just too much (for consoles), but after the release of MGS4 I decided to get a PS3

I managed to buy my 80 gig mgs4 bundle for only $300 (went to gamestop and traded a lot of my old games that I never played for instore credit) if you have a bunch of games you don't play and don't see yourself ever wanting to play them, I'd suggest you trade them in as soon as possible before the trade in prices get worse.

verbalfilth

after looking at how many more 360 owners there are in us and europe than ps3 owners. UT_Wrestler

[QUOTE="micky4889"][QUOTE="UT_Wrestler"]

[QUOTE="Gamersince81"]You still have to buy a PS3 for FF13 Versus and MGS4!!! If you want M.A.G you must have a PS3!! Have a nice day!!ThugKing6669

How long will it be before versus is also ported to the 360? And it wouldn't be the first time mgs got ported to the xbox.

Oh and how did MGS2 sell on the xbox??

Metal Gear Solid 2 was the worst MGS ever made. Second off it came out on Xbox a while after it came out on PS2 so all the hype for it was dead, and many had already either played the game or heard enough about it to know it wasn't worth their time. Had something like MGS Twin Snakes or another similar MGS that was souped up graphically, than I think it would have done better.

So if MGS4 would sell loads on the 360 despite it being on the ps3 for already

your logic is stupid

1) although MGS2 isnt near as good as MGS4 it was still a 9.7 and one of the best games last gen

2) When it came out on the xbox the xbox had more units out then the 360 has out at the moment

3)Pretty much everyone who wanted to play MGS4 has already done so

Its like bioshock coming to PS3

Do you think bioshock ps3 is going to get close to the amount that its 360 counterpart sold? NO why? because everyone who wanted to play it has done so same rules will applys to MGS4

[QUOTE="micky4889"]Im pretty sure there are more PS3s in Europe then 360sJandurin

According to Sony

and even on Vg chartz the PS3 isnt even half a million behind the 360

id give it 4-5 month

You honestly think that, when making the decision to go multiplat...they were worried about people saving money?

That is quite possibly one of the weakest arguements I have ever heard.

[QUOTE="Gamersince81"]You still have to buy a PS3 for FF13 Versus and MGS4!!! If you want M.A.G you must have a PS3!! Have a nice day!!UT_Wrestler

How long will it be before versus is also ported to the 360? And it wouldn't be the first time mgs got ported to the xbox.

You have a better chance of Crysis port before MGS4. In MGS4 you have Sony products IN GAME (laptops etc), you have PS REFERENCES IN VOICE from Otacon and Snake, you have Snake holding a DS3 on screen 100 times during the game. How are they suppose to delete all that? They wont you why, Sony paid for all that in MGS4 like MS paid for FF13. MGS4 is made for the PS3 as much Crysis is for the high end PC.

Could you play a game where the guy is holding a PS controller the entire game and you play on the 360? lol, think about this. Imagine Master Chief holding a 360 controller as i play Halo on my PS3.. See my point?

[QUOTE="ThugKing6669"][QUOTE="micky4889"][QUOTE="UT_Wrestler"]

[QUOTE="Gamersince81"]You still have to buy a PS3 for FF13 Versus and MGS4!!! If you want M.A.G you must have a PS3!! Have a nice day!!micky4889

How long will it be before versus is also ported to the 360? And it wouldn't be the first time mgs got ported to the xbox.

Oh and how did MGS2 sell on the xbox??

Metal Gear Solid 2 was the worst MGS ever made. Second off it came out on Xbox a while after it came out on PS2 so all the hype for it was dead, and many had already either played the game or heard enough about it to know it wasn't worth their time. Had something like MGS Twin Snakes or another similar MGS that was souped up graphically, than I think it would have done better.

So if MGS4 would sell loads on the 360 despite it being on the ps3 for already

your logic is stupid

1) although MGS2 isnt near as good as MGS4 it was still a 9.7 and one of the best games last gen

2) When it came out on the xbox the xbox had more units out then the 360 has out at the moment

3)Pretty much everyone who wanted to play MGS4 has already done so

Its like bioshock coming to PS3

Do you think bioshock ps3 is going to get close to the amount that its 360 counterpart sold? NO why? because everyone who wanted to play it has done so same rules will applys to MGS4

While I appreciate you attacking me like that I would have to disagree with you.

1. Ratings don't mean everything. I know fanboys eat up ratings to claim the ownage, but by that logic, your saying if a Britney Spears album got a high rating it would mean it's awesome. As for being one of the best games last gen, no it wasn't. The demo was awesome, the game itself no.

2. And last gen everyone bought more systems than what has been bought last gen. Believe it or not there are still a lot of people who haven't jumped on the next-gen bandwagon yet, especially with the PS2 still doing so well. So yes sales would have been higher at that point.

3. I'll give you that one, it is most likely that people bought the system just to play that game. However that dosen't mean everyone who wanted to play it has.

4. No I don't think Bioshock will sell as high as it did on Xbox 360. But then again were talking about a game that's been on 360 and PC for a while now. While not everyone may have a PS3 and a 360, damn near everyone has a system and a PC.

5. What most people on system wars don't seem to understand (not saying you), is that there is a general amount of gamer's who don't pay much attention to gaming news, and don't care about system wars and all that crap. They just want to play games. So they walk into their game store of choice and see Metal Gear Solid 4 for the 360, and they buy it.

The only current gen system I own right now is a 360. So far there have only been 2 reasons I'd be interested in a ps3, which are ff13 and mgs4. Quite frankly, just about any other ps3 game i'd want is also on 360.

Square just gave me one less reason to buy a ps3 after looking at how many more 360 owners there are in us and europe than ps3 owners. How long will it be before konami does the same and comes to their senses with their own flagship franchise? I'd be surprised if they could turn much of a profit selling a game that cost so much money to produce on a system that hardly anyone owns.

UT_Wrestler

Actually, pretty sure in Europe PS3 and 360 are about neck and neck. The US is the only place where the 360 is ahead.

[QUOTE="Shafftehr"]My situation is unfortunate... The game I really want for the PS3 is Tekken 6, and even if it were to come to the 360, the PS3 controller is much better suited to fighters, so I might have to get a PS3 for it... Which really rankles seeing as they keep on stripping backwards compatibility from their PS3 models, and that's a feature that's very important to me!ThugKing6669

I hated the PS1/PS2 controller for fighting games (worst ever in my opinion, I hate that d-pad). However any real fighting game fan would buy an arcade stick anyways, so controller preference shouldn't matter. Arcade stick > Any controller, all day every day.

While I appreciate you attacking me like that I would have to disagree with you.

1. Ratings don't mean everything. I know fanboys eat up ratings to claim the ownage, but by that logic, your saying if a Britney Spears album got a high rating it would mean it's awesome. As for being one of the best games last gen, no it wasn't. The demo was awesome, the game itself no.

2. And last gen everyone bought more systems than what has been bought last gen. Believe it or not there are still a lot of people who haven't jumped on the next-gen bandwagon yet, especially with the PS2 still doing so well. So yes sales would have been higher at that point.

3. I'll give you that one, it is most likely that people bought the system just to play that game. However that dosen't mean everyone who wanted to play it has.

4. No I don't think Bioshock will sell as high as it did on Xbox 360. But then again were talking about a game that's been on 360 and PC for a while now. While not everyone may have a PS3 and a 360, damn near everyone has a system and a PC.

5. What most people on system wars don't seem to understand (not saying you), is that there is a general amount of gamer's who don't pay much attention to gaming news, and don't care about system wars and all that crap. They just want to play games. So they walk into their game store of choice and see Metal Gear Solid 4 for the 360, and they buy it.

ThugKing6669

1) I know Ratings don't mean everything but its still the best way to judge a game before buying ( eg. If they didnt exist i would be the proud owner of games like lair and haze and many, many others)\

2) I agree with you here but still there is not a whole lot of difference between this gen and last gen

4) Ya ok a lot of people do have pcs but the question is how many people have pcs strong enough to run bioshock

5)Ya we call them casuals lol

oh and i didnt mean to attack you before i just forget to read what i wright before posting lol

Konami already making tons of money with MGS4 on PS3 alone.......... Why would they want to waste their time to port this game to 360 ? 360 version are never guarantee to seel more than PS3 version.Foxhound_spy

someone´s bitter

[QUOTE="ThugKing6669"]

While I appreciate you attacking me like that I would have to disagree with you.

1. Ratings don't mean everything. I know fanboys eat up ratings to claim the ownage, but by that logic, your saying if a Britney Spears album got a high rating it would mean it's awesome. As for being one of the best games last gen, no it wasn't. The demo was awesome, the game itself no.

2. And last gen everyone bought more systems than what has been bought last gen. Believe it or not there are still a lot of people who haven't jumped on the next-gen bandwagon yet, especially with the PS2 still doing so well. So yes sales would have been higher at that point.

3. I'll give you that one, it is most likely that people bought the system just to play that game. However that dosen't mean everyone who wanted to play it has.

4. No I don't think Bioshock will sell as high as it did on Xbox 360. But then again were talking about a game that's been on 360 and PC for a while now. While not everyone may have a PS3 and a 360, damn near everyone has a system and a PC.

5. What most people on system wars don't seem to understand (not saying you), is that there is a general amount of gamer's who don't pay much attention to gaming news, and don't care about system wars and all that crap. They just want to play games. So they walk into their game store of choice and see Metal Gear Solid 4 for the 360, and they buy it.

micky4889

1) I know Ratings don't mean everything but its still the best way to judge a game before buying ( eg. If they didnt exist i would be the proud owner of games like lair and haze and many, many others)\

2) I agree with you here but still there is not a whole lot of difference between this gen and last gen

4) Ya ok a lot of people do have pcs but the question is how many people have pcs strong enough to run bioshock

5)Ya we call them casuals lol

oh and i didnt mean to attack you before i just forget to read what i wright before posting lol

1. Yes and no. I've played games with lower ratings that I enjoyed the hell out of. For instance Tenchu Z, got a 4.9 here, but that game is really good (in my opinion). Usually though they can be a good way to indicate a game's quality.

2. This is true, but it was still a different situation then than it is now.

4. This is a good point, but with how cheap PCs that are mid range for todays standards are, I would say a decent amount.

5. Yes and no. I know some hardcore gamers that don't care about ratings or any of that. They buy the game sysem their friends have so that they can play with their friends. While I don't think that justifies a multiplat release of any game, it dosen't mean that they can't want a game to come out for their system.

It's all good, I have that problem sometimes too lol. Anyways I think we both bring up valid points, neither is wrong or right since a lot of what were saying is opinion.

I use what I enjoy. As far as D-pads go, the PS3 is by far the best, and for extended play, I find it much more comfortable than an arcade joystick. So, yeah.

Now, if you want to throw around terms like "any REAL fighting fan will do X" to make yourself feel good in your choice be my guest... But there are some pretty big fighting fans out there who don't care for joysticks. I'm not one of them, but I know a few.Shafftehr

Sorry perhaps I did word that wrong. While a controller can be good for fighting games (I still hate the PS controller for them though), I find that a arcade stick is way more precise than a d-pad, so much so that I don't really play a fighting game without it. I also find it better for a Street Fighter type game that uses more than four buttons for attacks to have all the buttons right there on a arcade stick as opposed to using two shoulder buttons for hard attacks. It does come down to preference though.

Also props for the Planescape love, that was one of my favorite PC games back in the day.

Why is the word s_tyle censored?

You honestly think that, when making the decision to go multiplat...they were worried about people saving money?

That is quite possibly one of the weakest arguements I have ever heard.

ZIMdoom

People who lack intelligence tend to have trouble understanding jokes.

I'm sure SE cares deeply about UT_Wrestler's financial situation. VanHelsingBoA64

You bet they do! And they really don't care about making more money for themselves!

I'm sure SE cares deeply about UT_Wrestler's financial situation. VanHelsingBoA64

In two years MGS4: S-stance will come out for 360 and PS3.

lol have fun with the craptastic downgrade 5 disc port of what you call FFxiii

(please check your sarcasm detectors before responding to this post)

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="micky4889"]Im pretty sure there are more PS3s in Europe then 360smicky4889

According to Sony

and even on Vg chartz the PS3 isnt even half a million behind the 360

id give it 4-5 month

"According to Sony": lol

4-5 months for half a million: the PS3 is outselling the 360 by 90-100 000 a month in Europe? I don't check sales very often, could you provide a link?

Konami already making tons of money with MGS4 on PS3 alone.......... Why would they want to waste their time to port this game to 360 ? 360 version are never guarantee to seel more than PS3 version.Foxhound_spy

Sure it will they will make alot of money out of a 360 port, if u market the game it will sell.

MGS4 will stay with the ps3. Did you see the in game ads with sony products? Money was passed around to keep it exclusive.

Sony:"we'll give you money to advertise our products in your game *wink*"

Konami:"ok we accept *wink*"

Star67

I love your gif. He was such a psycho while still fighting for something he believed in. Probably the best villain in any form of media, if you can even categorize him as a villain.